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[Openinteract-help] OpenInteract as CMS

[Heiko K. <Hei...@gm...>]

Hi,

I'm new to openinteract and just ran the tutorial of OI2. OI2 seems to 
be a very nice perl application server and I would like to continue with 
it. My main application running on OI2 should be a CMS system, with some 
applications added later.

Does there exist a CMS framework on top of OI2? (Similar to plone for 
Zope, OpenCMS for J2EE, ...) OI2 has its 'pages'-example, but I wouldn't 
call those a full CMS, since they are more or less just a different way 
of accessing the file-system. I would like to have:

1) access-restrictions of pages/directories (with users only seeing the 
places they are allowed to write to)
2) setting of expiration dates (with notification when page expires)
3) web-based page editor GUI
4) versioning system for all pages (pagewise)
5) batch uploading of files (i.e. graphics, older pages...)

1) and 2) seem to be partly included. 3) could be as simple as a 
javascript-tool, i.e. 
http://www.interactivetools.com/products/htmlarea/license.html
4) shouldn't be to much work. 5) could be solved by uploading zip files, 
which get unpacked. But I would prefer a API to OI2 (i.e. SOAP) to be 
able to script OI2 from a remote machine.

I would like to hear if this will be possible for me (decent perl 
programmer without experience in OI but some experience in 
web-applications/databases) to create with OI2 within the next 3-6month, 
or if I should use a specialized CMS i.e. Bricolage for the static 
pages, and OI2 for the dynamic applications (news/blogs/fora/etc.)

Best regards,

Heiko

Re: [Openinteract-help] OpenInteract as CMS

[Andreas N. <an...@kl...>]

Hi Heiko,

from our experiences with OI 1 you should be able to do that. We are 
planning to release a package called roma at some point of time, which is 
our solution for CMS and other topics. Currently, we are still using OI 1 
though, but roma is not tightly bound to OI 1.

What it does is a framework to define content types and links between 
content items.
Each content type can have attributes which you assign can assign s.th. like 
htmlarea ( we use the commercial tool Editlet, but htmlarea also works ).
From these links you can create trees of content including security stuff 
( not sys_security... ) and full text search.

The system is in production use BUT... there is not much documentation. If 
you are interested and /or would like to contribute ( .. like documentation 
;-) ), then we can send you the package. But be warned: it has a learning 
curve..

For the other question: you could use Chris Winters Workflow.pm from CPAN to 
create CMS workflows. Alternatively we have a framework for this called 
NATS - but it also lacks documentation. We will merge this with Workflow.pm 
at some point of time.

cheers

Andreas
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Heiko Klein" <Hei...@gm...>
To: <ope...@li...>
Sent: Friday, September 10, 2004 2:49 PM
Subject: [Openinteract-help] OpenInteract as CMS


> Hi,
>
> I'm new to openinteract and just ran the tutorial of OI2. OI2 seems to be 
> a very nice perl application server and I would like to continue with it. 
> My main application running on OI2 should be a CMS system, with some 
> applications added later.
>
> Does there exist a CMS framework on top of OI2? (Similar to plone for 
> Zope, OpenCMS for J2EE, ...) OI2 has its 'pages'-example, but I wouldn't 
> call those a full CMS, since they are more or less just a different way of 
> accessing the file-system. I would like to have:
>
> 1) access-restrictions of pages/directories (with users only seeing the 
> places they are allowed to write to)
> 2) setting of expiration dates (with notification when page expires)
> 3) web-based page editor GUI
> 4) versioning system for all pages (pagewise)
> 5) batch uploading of files (i.e. graphics, older pages...)
>
> 1) and 2) seem to be partly included. 3) could be as simple as a 
> javascript-tool, i.e. 
> http://www.interactivetools.com/products/htmlarea/license.html
> 4) shouldn't be to much work. 5) could be solved by uploading zip files, 
> which get unpacked. But I would prefer a API to OI2 (i.e. SOAP) to be able 
> to script OI2 from a remote machine.
>
> I would like to hear if this will be possible for me (decent perl 
> programmer without experience in OI but some experience in 
> web-applications/databases) to create with OI2 within the next 3-6month, 
> or if I should use a specialized CMS i.e. Bricolage for the static pages, 
> and OI2 for the dynamic applications (news/blogs/fora/etc.)
>
> Best regards,
>
> Heiko
>
>
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Re: [Openinteract-help] OpenInteract as CMS

[Andreas N. <an...@kl...>]

Hi Heiko,

from our experiences with OI 1 you should be able to do that. We are 
planning to release a package called roma at some point of time, which is 
our solution for CMS and other topics. Currently, we are still using OI 1 
though, but roma is not tightly bound to OI 1.

What it does is a framework to define content types and links between 
content items.
Each content type can have attributes which you assign can assign s.th. like 
htmlarea ( we use the commercial tool Editlet, but htmlarea also works ).
From these links you can create trees of content including security stuff 
( not sys_security... ) and full text search.

The system is in production use BUT... there is not much documentation. If 
you are interested and /or would like to contribute ( .. like documentation 
;-) ), then we can send you the package. But be warned: it has a learning 
curve..

For the other question: you could use Chris Winters Workflow.pm from CPAN to 
create CMS workflows. Alternatively we have a framework for this called 
NATS - but it also lacks documentation. We will merge this with Workflow.pm 
at some point of time.

cheers

Andreas
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Heiko Klein" <Hei...@gm...>
To: <ope...@li...>
Sent: Friday, September 10, 2004 2:49 PM
Subject: [Openinteract-help] OpenInteract as CMS


> Hi,
>
> I'm new to openinteract and just ran the tutorial of OI2. OI2 seems to be 
> a very nice perl application server and I would like to continue with it. 
> My main application running on OI2 should be a CMS system, with some 
> applications added later.
>
> Does there exist a CMS framework on top of OI2? (Similar to plone for 
> Zope, OpenCMS for J2EE, ...) OI2 has its 'pages'-example, but I wouldn't 
> call those a full CMS, since they are more or less just a different way of 
> accessing the file-system. I would like to have:
>
> 1) access-restrictions of pages/directories (with users only seeing the 
> places they are allowed to write to)
> 2) setting of expiration dates (with notification when page expires)
> 3) web-based page editor GUI
> 4) versioning system for all pages (pagewise)
> 5) batch uploading of files (i.e. graphics, older pages...)
>
> 1) and 2) seem to be partly included. 3) could be as simple as a 
> javascript-tool, i.e. 
> http://www.interactivetools.com/products/htmlarea/license.html
> 4) shouldn't be to much work. 5) could be solved by uploading zip files, 
> which get unpacked. But I would prefer a API to OI2 (i.e. SOAP) to be able 
> to script OI2 from a remote machine.
>
> I would like to hear if this will be possible for me (decent perl 
> programmer without experience in OI but some experience in 
> web-applications/databases) to create with OI2 within the next 3-6month, 
> or if I should use a specialized CMS i.e. Bricolage for the static pages, 
> and OI2 for the dynamic applications (news/blogs/fora/etc.)
>
> Best regards,
>
> Heiko
>
>
> -------------------------------------------------------
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Re: [Openinteract-help] OpenInteract as CMS

[Andreas N. <an...@kl...>]

Hi Heiko,

from our experiences with OI 1 you should be able to do that. We are 
planning to release a package called roma at some point of time, which is 
our solution for CMS and other topics. Currently, we are still using OI 1 
though, but roma is not tightly bound to OI 1.

What it does is a framework to define content types and links between 
content items.
Each content type can have attributes which you assign can assign s.th. like 
htmlarea ( we use the commercial tool Editlet, but htmlarea also works ).
From these links you can create trees of content including security stuff 
( not sys_security... ) and full text search.

The system is in production use BUT... there is not much documentation. If 
you are interested and /or would like to contribute ( .. like documentation 
;-) ), then we can send you the package. But be warned: it has a learning 
curve..

For the other question: you could use Chris Winters Workflow.pm from CPAN to 
create CMS workflows. Alternatively we have a framework for this called 
NATS - but it also lacks documentation. We will merge this with Workflow.pm 
at some point of time.

cheers

Andreas
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Heiko Klein" <Hei...@gm...>
To: <ope...@li...>
Sent: Friday, September 10, 2004 2:49 PM
Subject: [Openinteract-help] OpenInteract as CMS


> Hi,
>
> I'm new to openinteract and just ran the tutorial of OI2. OI2 seems to be 
> a very nice perl application server and I would like to continue with it. 
> My main application running on OI2 should be a CMS system, with some 
> applications added later.
>
> Does there exist a CMS framework on top of OI2? (Similar to plone for 
> Zope, OpenCMS for J2EE, ...) OI2 has its 'pages'-example, but I wouldn't 
> call those a full CMS, since they are more or less just a different way of 
> accessing the file-system. I would like to have:
>
> 1) access-restrictions of pages/directories (with users only seeing the 
> places they are allowed to write to)
> 2) setting of expiration dates (with notification when page expires)
> 3) web-based page editor GUI
> 4) versioning system for all pages (pagewise)
> 5) batch uploading of files (i.e. graphics, older pages...)
>
> 1) and 2) seem to be partly included. 3) could be as simple as a 
> javascript-tool, i.e. 
> http://www.interactivetools.com/products/htmlarea/license.html
> 4) shouldn't be to much work. 5) could be solved by uploading zip files, 
> which get unpacked. But I would prefer a API to OI2 (i.e. SOAP) to be able 
> to script OI2 from a remote machine.
>
> I would like to hear if this will be possible for me (decent perl 
> programmer without experience in OI but some experience in 
> web-applications/databases) to create with OI2 within the next 3-6month, 
> or if I should use a specialized CMS i.e. Bricolage for the static pages, 
> and OI2 for the dynamic applications (news/blogs/fora/etc.)
>
> Best regards,
>
> Heiko
>
>
> -------------------------------------------------------
> This SF.Net email is sponsored by: YOU BE THE JUDGE. Be one of 170
> Project Admins to receive an Apple iPod Mini FREE for your judgement on
> who ports your project to Linux PPC the best. Sponsored by IBM. Deadline: 
> Sept. 13. Go here: http://sf.net/ppc_contest.php
> _______________________________________________
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