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[Openinteract-dev] OI2 status from Perrin's talk

[Chris W. <ch...@cw...>]

You might be interested: I went to Perrin's YAPC::NA talk [1] on MVC  
web frameworks; the frameworks under discussion were OI2, Catalyst  
and CGI::Application. OI2 came out looking decent, if a little  
complicated -- one of his comments was: "If you don't like  
configuration files, you won't like OpenInteract2". Tough to argue  
with that...

We did get props for tackling messy problems like i18n, having lots  
of documentation, and for having a decent auto-generated CRUD  
application. Fortunately, time ran out before Perrin could get to OI2  
negatives :-)

He'll be giving this talk again at OSCON in early August, so I'd like  
to get the next beta out before then if possible, if only so the  
Class::DBI interface can be released.

Chris

[1] http://yapc.org/America/schedule-2005/summary.html#49

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Chris Winters (ch...@cw...)
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Re: [Openinteract-dev] OI2 status from Perrin's talk

[<an...@io...>]

Since I've been writing mails to OI-dev all day, I might as well continue ;)

Chris Winters wrote:
> He'll be giving this talk again at OSCON in early August, so I'd like  
> to get the next beta out before then if possible, if only so the  
> Class::DBI interface can be released.

It would be really nice to have some kind of a comparsion publicly 
available in the web so taht one could see where things stand, since 
most of the people in the world will not be attending OSCON.

I personally haven't had much time to glance around after we started 
with OI, so it would be nice if somebody else would do the job for me.. 
And I probably couldn't be very objective since I've gradually started 
to think more and more the way OI works ;)

So Perrin, might it be possible to get your OSCON slides/material on the 
web after you are done with the presentation, and preferably a small 
notification on this mailing list?

- Antti

Re: [Openinteract-dev] OI2 status from Perrin's talk

[Perrin H. <pe...@el...>]

On Wed, 2005-07-06 at 03:04 +0300, Antti M V=C3=A4h=C3=A4kotam=C3=A4ki wrot=
e:
> So Perrin, might it be possible to get your OSCON slides/material on the=20
> web after you are done with the presentation, and preferably a small=20
> notification on this mailing list?

The YAPC slides and samples are up:
http://wiki.yapctoronto.org/index.cgi?PresentationSlides

I will be redoing them for OSCON, so I can make sure to fit all three in
more evenly.

- Perrin

Re: [Openinteract-dev] OI2 status from Perrin's talk

[Perrin H. <pe...@el...>]

Chris Winters wrote:
> -- one of his comments was: "If you don't like  configuration files, you 
> won't like OpenInteract2". Tough to argue  with that...

Although it sounds like a silly difference to highlight, it's somewhat 
important becaise of the strong anti-config file entiment of the 
Catalyst crew.

- Perrin

Re: [Openinteract-dev] OI2 status from Perrin's talk

[Chris W. <ch...@cw...>]

On Jul 5, 2005, at 11:32 PM, Perrin Harkins wrote:
> ...
> Although it sounds like a silly difference to highlight, it's  
> somewhat important becaise of the strong anti-config file entiment  
> of the Catalyst crew.

I don't think it's silly at all. (Sorry if I gave that impression.)  
It's one of those things people care deeply about and is therefore a  
pretty useful discriminator, even if it's something you can get used  
to if you need to -- kind of like odd programming language syntax.

Chris

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Building enterprise-capable snack solutions since 1988.