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RE: OpenG VISA

[<pat...@si...>]

I did a quick Google search looking for other VISA implementations. I find
it kind of funny that Keithly and Racal provide the "free" NI-VISA runtimes.
Looks like we weren't the only ones who thought it was free of charge.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: ope...@li...
> [mailto:ope...@li...]On
>  Behalf Of
> Michael Ashe
> Sent: Thursday, January 13, 2005 9:32 AM
> To: ope...@li...
> Subject: RE: OpenG VISA
> 
> 
> Hi gents,
> 
> I have been out of the VXI plug-n-play and VISA arema for a 
> while, so forgive me for asking this, but, Rolf and others 
> mention HP and NI VISA libraries, but no one else. VISA is an 
> open standard. Does any other company besides HP & NI have a 
> VISA implementation?
> 
> Cheers,
> Mike Ashe
> ****************************
> Imaginatics     860-444-2141
> mic...@im...
> ****************************
> ---- ope...@li... wrote:
> > Instead of replacing VISA32.DLL we could create for the time being
> > a library which is in principle compatible and built on the same
> > architecture but name it for instance ogvisa.dll/shl/...
> > ... snip...
> > Once it is working properly ... anyone wants to test or use it 
> > ... instead of relying on the NI or HP version.
> > 
> > Rolf Kalbermatter
> 
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RE: OpenG VISA

[<pat...@si...>]

I looked at Racal again. They have a hardlink to NI's ftp site. I wonder if
they paid? An end-user probably won't know.



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> From: ope...@li...
> [mailto:ope...@li...]On
>  Behalf Of
> John Ryland
> Sent: Thursday, January 13, 2005 11:04 AM
> To: ope...@li...
> Subject: RE: OpenG VISA
> 
> 
> I am a developer at Keithley. We license VISA from NI and are 
> allowed to redistribute it with our instrument drivers. So as 
> long as you use our driver with our instrument (of course) 
> then you can use VISA. But if you create a product to sell 
> with our driver then you don't get the right to redistribute 
> the VISA you have to purchase it or license it like we do 
> from NI, Agilent or Tek.
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: ope...@li...
> [mailto:ope...@li...]On
>  Behalf Of
> pat...@si...
> Sent: Thursday, January 13, 2005 10:36 AM
> To: ope...@li...;
> Inf...@la...
> Subject: RE: OpenG VISA
> 
> 
> I did a quick Google search looking for other VISA 
> implementations. I find
> it kind of funny that Keithly and Racal provide the "free" 
> NI-VISA runtimes.
> Looks like we weren't the only ones who thought it was free of charge.
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: ope...@li...
> > [mailto:ope...@li...]On
> >  Behalf Of
> > Michael Ashe
> > Sent: Thursday, January 13, 2005 9:32 AM
> > To: ope...@li...
> > Subject: RE: OpenG VISA
> > 
> > 
> > Hi gents,
> > 
> > I have been out of the VXI plug-n-play and VISA arema for a 
> > while, so forgive me for asking this, but, Rolf and others 
> > mention HP and NI VISA libraries, but no one else. VISA is an 
> > open standard. Does any other company besides HP & NI have a 
> > VISA implementation?
> > 
> > Cheers,
> > Mike Ashe
> > ****************************
> > Imaginatics     860-444-2141
> > mic...@im...
> > ****************************
> > ---- ope...@li... wrote:
> > > Instead of replacing VISA32.DLL we could create for the time being
> > > a library which is in principle compatible and built on the same
> > > architecture but name it for instance ogvisa.dll/shl/...
> > > ... snip...
> > > Once it is working properly ... anyone wants to test or use it 
> > > ... instead of relying on the NI or HP version.
> > > 
> > > Rolf Kalbermatter
> > 
> > 
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RE: OpenG VISA

[Frederic V. <fre...@la...>]

> I have been out of the VXI plug-n-play and VISA arema for a while, so forgi=
> ve me for asking this, but, Rolf and others mention HP and NI VISA librarie=
> s, but no one else. VISA is an open standard. Does any other company beside=
> s HP & NI have a VISA implementation?


Hello,

The only other VISA implementations that I know of beside NI and Agilent 
are:

Tektronix
Bustec  (http://www.bustec.ie)
Kikusui (http://www.kikusui.co.jp)

They probably don't have a full implementation, for example Bustec only 
implemented VXI communication.

Some companies also piggy-back on NI's VISA implementation by just 
adding a passport. Rohde&Schwarz does that.

Frederic

RE: OpenG VISA

[Rolf K. <rol...@ci...>]

Frederic Villeneuve [fre...@la...] wrote:

> The only other VISA implementations that I know of beside NI=20
> and Agilent are:
>=20
> Tektronix
> Bustec  (http://www.bustec.ie)
> Kikusui (http://www.kikusui.co.jp)
>=20
> They probably don't have a full implementation, for example=20
> Bustec only=20
> implemented VXI communication.
>=20
> Some companies also piggy-back on NI's VISA implementation by just=20
> adding a passport. Rohde&Schwarz does that.

But that probably might require an NDA? The passport interface is
not part of the open VXIPlug&Play specification for VISA.

Rolf Kalbermatter

RE: OpenG VISA

[Michael A. <mic...@im...>]

This method of implementation (passports) would still require NI-VISA to be=
 installed to access the passport interface, yes?  That does not seem to be=
 an option for us. Rolf's offer of his framework under LGPL seems the way t=
o go.

Mike Ashe
******************************************
Michae C. Ashe                 Imaginagics
860-444-2141  mic...@im...
******************************************

---- ope...@li... wrote:
>
> Frederic Villeneuve [fre...@la...] wrote:
> >=20
> > Some companies also piggy-back on NI's VISA implementation by just=20
> > adding a passport. Rohde&Schwarz does that.
>=20
> But that probably might require an NDA? The passport interface is
> not part of the open VXIPlug&Play specification for VISA.
>=20
> Rolf Kalbermatter
>

RE: OpenG VISA

[John R. <jr...@ke...>]

I=20am=20a=20developer=20at=20Keithley.=20We=20license=20VISA=20from=20NI=20=
and=20are=20allowed=20to=20redistribute=20it=20with=20our=20instrument=20d=
rivers.=20So=20as=20long=20as=20you=20use=20our=20driver=20with=20our=20in=
strument=20(of=20course)=20then=20you=20can=20use=20VISA.=20But=20if=20you=
=20create=20a=20product=20to=20sell=20with=20our=20driver=20then=20you=20d=
on't=20get=20the=20right=20to=20redistribute=20the=20VISA=20you=20have=20t=
o=20purchase=20it=20or=20license=20it=20like=20we=20do=20from=20NI,=20Agil=
ent=20or=20Tek.


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=20free=20of=20charge.

>=20-----Original=20Message-----
>=20From:=20o...@li...
>=20[mailto:ope...@li...]On
>=20=20Behalf=20Of
>=20Michael=20Ashe
>=20Sent:=20Thursday,=20January=2013,=202005=209:32=20AM
>=20To:=20o...@li...
>=20Subject:=20RE:=20OpenG=20VISA
>=20
>=20
>=20Hi=20gents,
>=20
>=20I=20have=20been=20out=20of=20the=20VXI=20plug-n-play=20and=20VISA=20ar=
ema=20for=20a=20
>=20while,=20so=20forgive=20me=20for=20asking=20this,=20but,=20Rolf=20and=20=
others=20
>=20mention=20HP=20and=20NI=20VISA=20libraries,=20but=20no=20one=20else.=20=
VISA=20is=20an=20
>=20open=20standard.=20Does=20any=20other=20company=20besides=20HP=20&=20N=
I=20have=20a=20
>=20VISA=20implementation?
>=20
>=20Cheers,
>=20Mike=20Ashe
>=20****************************
>=20Imaginatics=20=20=20=20=20860-444-2141
>=20m...@im...
>=20****************************
>=20----=20o...@li...=20wrote:
>=20>=20Instead=20of=20replacing=20VISA32.DLL=20we=20could=20create=20for=20=
the=20time=20being
>=20>=20a=20library=20which=20is=20in=20principle=20compatible=20and=20bui=
lt=20on=20the=20same
>=20>=20architecture=20but=20name=20it=20for=20instance=20ogvisa.dll/shl/.=
..
>=20>=20...=20snip...
>=20>=20Once=20it=20is=20working=20properly=20...=20anyone=20wants=20to=20=
test=20or=20use=20it=20
>=20>=20...=20instead=20of=20relying=20on=20the=20NI=20or=20HP=20version.
>=20>=20
>=20>=20Rolf=20Kalbermatter
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RE: OpenG VISA

[Scott H. <st...@ma...>]

At 10:35 -0500 1/13/05, pat...@si... wrote:
>I did a quick Google search looking for other VISA implementations. I find
>it kind of funny that Keithly and Racal provide the "free" NI-VISA runtimes.
>Looks like we weren't the only ones who thought it was free of charge.

I have personal knowledge that Keithley did pay the licensing fee to distribute the serial VISA with their application.  It is a set price for unlimited distribution.  So NO, it is not clear that they did not know about this.  In fact I spent awhile disabusing them of the notion that there were additional fees for each platform.  You get a license to distribute VISA as part of an application for all platforms for some fixed fee.

I don't know at all about Racal.

-Scott