Re: [Opengate-devel] Autogenerated Asteroids

[eGore <eG...@gm...>]

That's all way to complicated. Ogre is able to use a so called "damage modifier" (or however it was called). I read in a forum thread on how to damage an object. So we would use this modifier to damage a perfect sphere it look like an asteroid.


I'd like to add random asteroids to be attractive for miming. They are generated by the server (not thousands, more like 10). Once a asteroid was mined it will shrink and disappear.

That is exactly what was in jumpgate (iirc). Once you flew far from the usual routes you might find an asteroid with valuable minerals. They were at a random position, but with a constant form.

I'm not for adding asteroid fields or something. Just a few single asteroids.



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Datum: Thu, 14 Jun 2007 02:41:03 +0200
Von: Gary Luck <Ult...@gm...>
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CC: ope...@li...
Betreff: Re: [Opengate-devel] Autogenerated Asteroids

> If you would like to generate random shapes by the client you should make
> sure that thouse generated 
> asteroids are being synchronized with the other clients (position, shape,
> amount of ice/metal/other ores 
> ...) or just let a game server do the generation work. Either way we would
> have the problem that thouse 
> asteroids never move/fly around with velocity but still change position
> from time to time if they are 
> beeing generated again.
> 
> I would prefer to generate random asteroids and random postions but then
> make the result of the 
> generator fix. So that the asteroid positions can be saved in a xml file
> and doesn't need to be 
> synchronized or regenerated anymore. There was no regenerator in Jumpgate
> either.
> 
> Anyway ... if you prefer generating random shapes with an other
> application but blender (it takes quite 
> some time to generate 10 asteroids with blender even if you use the random
> asteroid generator I uploaded 
> lately) you would probably also run into a dead line like I did. Before I
> created the blender-generator 
> I tried to write a script to make the calculations but I threw in the
> towel after 4 or 5 hours with no 
> success. I figured out that simply moving the vertices with a random value
> is not sufficient. You would 
> need to move vertices randomly on a mesh of lets say 20 or 30 vertices and
> after it make a smooth 
> subsurface division by using Catmull-Clarks algorithm. But actually I
> failed at an earlier step in 
> writing the script.
> 
> Regards,
> Gary
> 
> Spom wrote:
> > Am Mittwoch, 13. Juni 2007 12:11 schrieb eGore:
> > 
> > random amount, position and orientation should be not that problem, its
> easy 
> > to administrate by the server. Of course there should some "no go" areas
> for 
> > astros the between the gates.
> > Randomizing the shape of the asteroid is a litte bit more complicated,
> so we 
> > have to define a couple of "randomization parameters" and sophisticated
> rules 
> > to calculate the shape. 
> > The server generates a small pack of that parameters (maybee: size of
> semi 
> > axis, some lokal concave/convex points etc.)  and the client calculates
> the 
> > shape.
> > 
> > I like this idea to fill some larger asteroids fields with some trivia. 
> > Anyway, the static major asteriods, the eye catcher, still should hand
> made.
> > 
> > Regards,
> > Ca
> > 
> >> Hi list,
> >>
> >> would it make sense to auto generate asteroids within the game and not
> >> within blender? I think some static asteroids should be generated once
> and
> >> kept. But having sectors with random generated asteroids at random
> >> positions would be fun.
> >>
> >> Any thoughts?
> >>
> >> Regards,
> >>   Christoph
> > 
> >
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