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[openFIRST-devel] Module system working and what's next

[Jamie B. <ast...@gm...>]

Tonight I committed to CVS HEAD a working implementation of modules.
(I actually installed openfirst.base, openfirst.awards, and
openfirst.modules from scratch.)

What is needed most to debug it and make it more stable, IMHO, is to
check the DataBase implementations on DBMSs other than MySQL.
Especially the structure manipulation methods.

The next step in the plan in my head is to move basic user services
(login, logout, registration, profile management) from
openfirst.members to openfirst.base, so that we don't have a
dependency on a module in the core code.

After that, I think we'll be fairly close to releasing something. Far
from perfect or complete (real skins, options page integration, etc.),
but the major features should be ready. (Skinning may go in there,
since it is kinda integral to certain parts, like slug advertising.
It's just that I'm trying to avoid putting in too much so can we have
something by kick-off.)

Can anyone assist with this? Primarily debugging is needed on a more
configurations. (So far, it's just Apache 2.0.52, PHP 5.0.2, MySQL
4.0.21, Windows XP Pro SP1.)

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Re: [openFIRST-devel] Module system working and what's next

[David Di B. <dav...@gm...>]

Jamie,

Nice work! As soon as I finish my political theory quiz at 3:00 I'll
definitely take a look and test on my system. I might have a run at it with
my linux box as well.

Do you have any plans for moving some of the modules to classes? I haven't
seen the code you've modified so I really have no idea what the plans are.

Dave

On 10/19/05, Jamie Bliss <ast...@gm...> wrote:
>
> This is a post to the openFIRST discussion list, subscription management
> information is included at the bottom of this message.
> _______________________________________________
>
> Tonight I committed to CVS HEAD a working implementation of modules.
> (I actually installed openfirst.base, openfirst.awards, and
> openfirst.modules from scratch.)
>
> What is needed most to debug it and make it more stable, IMHO, is to
> check the DataBase implementations on DBMSs other than MySQL.
> Especially the structure manipulation methods.
>
> The next step in the plan in my head is to move basic user services
> (login, logout, registration, profile management) from
> openfirst.members to openfirst.base, so that we don't have a
> dependency on a module in the core code.
>
> After that, I think we'll be fairly close to releasing something. Far
> from perfect or complete (real skins, options page integration, etc.),
> but the major features should be ready. (Skinning may go in there,
> since it is kinda integral to certain parts, like slug advertising.
> It's just that I'm trying to avoid putting in too much so can we have
> something by kick-off.)
>
> Can anyone assist with this? Primarily debugging is needed on a more
> configurations. (So far, it's just Apache 2.0.52, PHP 5.0.2, MySQL
> 4.0.21, Windows XP Pro SP1.)
>
> --
> Jamie
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Re: [openFIRST-devel] Module system working and what's next

[Jamie B. <ast...@gm...>]

You can also check the news item I posted to SF, which contains
different details.
<https://sourceforge.net/forum/forum.php?forum_id=3D504421>

And obviously, if I say something that is more me than oF, please say so.

On 10/19/05, David Di Biase <dav...@gm...> wrote:
> Jamie,
>
>  Nice work! As soon as I finish my political theory quiz at 3:00 I'll
> definitely take a look and test on my system. I might have a run at it wi=
th
> my linux box as well.
>
>  Do you have any plans for moving some of the modules to classes? I haven=
't
> seen the code you've modified so I really have no idea what the plans are=
.

While openFIRST doesn't specify how a module is to work internally,
each of our modules will have a class, a subclass of Module, to handle
slugs and other things.

Come to think of it, there's probably going to be the addition of a
few modules, since the functions directory is basically depreciated
for distributed code, although I think I'll/we'll be keeping it so
webmasters can easily add functions. I think it will be the first
editor module (not the default editor, a seperate module), and another
SDK module from it.

(I don't think Tim has mentioned that to the list. The openFIRST SDK
is supposed to be a set of modules that facilitate the developement of
oF mods.)

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Re: [openFIRST-devel] Module system working and what's next

[David Di B. <dav...@gm...>]

Sounds wonderful. Looks like things are going well. If you get a chance
please add me to AIM/MSN:

don...@ho... / nextus86. I believe you were on my list once
but haven't see you in a while...

I have a couple ideas and preferences for the new look and feel of the
release you are planning. Since there is going to be a major foundation
change it's only worth it to add a new template.

Also Tim,

Maybe we should start getting in contact with the FIRST people, maybe we ca=
n
somehow get some more support or help from them in attracting members.

Let me know,

Dave

On 10/19/05, Jamie Bliss <ast...@gm...> wrote:
>
> This is a post to the openFIRST discussion list, subscription management
> information is included at the bottom of this message.
> _______________________________________________
>
> You can also check the news item I posted to SF, which contains
> different details.
> <https://sourceforge.net/forum/forum.php?forum_id=3D504421>
>
> And obviously, if I say something that is more me than oF, please say so.
>
> On 10/19/05, David Di Biase <dav...@gm...> wrote:
> > Jamie,
> >
> > Nice work! As soon as I finish my political theory quiz at 3:00 I'll
> > definitely take a look and test on my system. I might have a run at it
> with
> > my linux box as well.
> >
> > Do you have any plans for moving some of the modules to classes? I
> haven't
> > seen the code you've modified so I really have no idea what the plans
> are.
>
> While openFIRST doesn't specify how a module is to work internally,
> each of our modules will have a class, a subclass of Module, to handle
> slugs and other things.
>
> Come to think of it, there's probably going to be the addition of a
> few modules, since the functions directory is basically depreciated
> for distributed code, although I think I'll/we'll be keeping it so
> webmasters can easily add functions. I think it will be the first
> editor module (not the default editor, a seperate module), and another
> SDK module from it.
>
> (I don't think Tim has mentioned that to the list. The openFIRST SDK
> is supposed to be a set of modules that facilitate the developement of
> oF mods.)
>
> --
> Jamie
> -------------------------------------------------------------------
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>
>
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Re: [openFIRST-devel] Module system working and what's next

[Tim G. <ti...@op...>]

On 19-Oct-05, at 1:48 AM, Jamie Bliss wrote:

> ...
> Tonight I committed to CVS HEAD a working implementation of modules.
> (I actually installed openfirst.base, openfirst.awards, and
> openfirst.modules from scratch.)
> ...
> Can anyone assist with this? Primarily debugging is needed on a more
> configurations. (So far, it's just Apache 2.0.52, PHP 5.0.2, MySQL
> 4.0.21, Windows XP Pro SP1.)

Hey,

First off, sorry about the delay in this response, I was away at an 
OUSA (Ontario Undergraduate Student Alliance) conference on the weekend 
as a delegate for Queen's University where we made decisions about 
policy and how specifically the organisation will lobby the provincial 
government for improvements to post-secondary education.  Very neat and 
important stuff, but, understandably also very time consuming.  Ask me 
about it some time if you'd like (Dave-- UofT isn't part of OUSA, 
perhaps you can try and change that? :-)).

Anyway, with it being midterm season and all around here I doubt I'll 
be able to look at any of the code (or indeed anything else, including 
lobbying FIRST for assistance) before Saturday (Oct. 29th) at the 
earliest.  Sorry, but that's just how my schedule pans out.  Oh, and 
for what it's worth, I know my exam schedule now and am done super 
early (Dec. 9th) so, that holiday break should give me plenty of time 
for openFIRST (and other unrelated) stuff.  Congratulations on reaching 
such a significant milestone.

Regards,

Tim

Re: [openFIRST-devel] Module system working and what's next

[David Di B. <dav...@gm...>]

Hey Tim,

No problem.

I've heard of OUSA but never bothered with it. UofT doesn't have any
delegates probably because it's not really required. We do a lot of our own
campaigning directly from SAC (Student Association Committee). Plus Queens
Park is RIGHT on campus all we have to do is walk outside and pull out our
signs. As a matter of fact a few months ago they started a HUGE lobby at th=
e
park and ended up marching thrugh Toronto (which is not becoming a
university tradition - haha) :-p

Midterms are almost done for me. I have a research methods (bivariate cross
tabulation) lab due tomorrow and today at 3:00 I have an american politics
exam (it's all about the US constitutional history and the electoral system
- eug).

Then I'm free except for the mountain of accounting I have to jam into my
computer. Plus my house needs a nice clean atm it's wicked messy. Oh and my
dads company just got BlackBerries so they want me to have CashierServices
send them daily sales reports by e-mail -_-

After that I'm free!

I'm not sure about my December schedule but I will try to dedicate time to
openFIRST as well.

David

On 10/24/05, Tim Ginn <ti...@op...> wrote:
>
> This is a post to the openFIRST discussion list, subscription management
> information is included at the bottom of this message.
> _______________________________________________
>
> On 19-Oct-05, at 1:48 AM, Jamie Bliss wrote:
>
> > ...
> > Tonight I committed to CVS HEAD a working implementation of modules.
> > (I actually installed openfirst.base, openfirst.awards, and
> > openfirst.modules from scratch.)
> > ...
> > Can anyone assist with this? Primarily debugging is needed on a more
> > configurations. (So far, it's just Apache 2.0.52, PHP 5.0.2, MySQL
> > 4.0.21, Windows XP Pro SP1.)
>
> Hey,
>
> First off, sorry about the delay in this response, I was away at an
> OUSA (Ontario Undergraduate Student Alliance) conference on the weekend
> as a delegate for Queen's University where we made decisions about
> policy and how specifically the organisation will lobby the provincial
> government for improvements to post-secondary education. Very neat and
> important stuff, but, understandably also very time consuming. Ask me
> about it some time if you'd like (Dave-- UofT isn't part of OUSA,
> perhaps you can try and change that? :-)).
>
> Anyway, with it being midterm season and all around here I doubt I'll
> be able to look at any of the code (or indeed anything else, including
> lobbying FIRST for assistance) before Saturday (Oct. 29th) at the
> earliest. Sorry, but that's just how my schedule pans out. Oh, and
> for what it's worth, I know my exam schedule now and am done super
> early (Dec. 9th) so, that holiday break should give me plenty of time
> for openFIRST (and other unrelated) stuff. Congratulations on reaching
> such a significant milestone.
>
> Regards,
>
> Tim
>
>
>
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Re: [openFIRST-devel] Module system working and what's next

[Jamie B. <ast...@gm...>]

Odd. My midterms aren't 'till January... ;)

Also for the todo list, the various implementations of DataBase need
to be tested (specifically, the query assembling in the wrapper
methods). The structure-modification methods especially need to be
examined. (There's probably a reason why many cross-server resources
don't include structure.)

On 10/24/05, David Di Biase <dav...@gm...> wrote:
>  Midterms are almost done for me. I have a research methods (bivariate cr=
oss
> tabulation) lab due tomorrow and today at 3:00 I have an american politic=
s
> exam (it's all about the US constitutional history and the electoral syst=
em
> - eug).

We don't like it much either.

>  Then I'm free except for the mountain of accounting I have to jam into m=
y
> computer. Plus my house needs a nice clean atm it's wicked messy. Oh and =
my
> dads company just got BlackBerries so they want me to have CashierService=
s
> send them daily sales reports by e-mail -_-
>
>  After that I'm free!

Sorta like me and my mountain of want-to-dos.

>  I'm not sure about my December schedule but I will try to dedicate time =
to
> openFIRST as well.
>
> On 10/24/05, Tim Ginn <ti...@op...> wrote:
> > ... I know my exam schedule now and am done super
> > early (Dec. 9th) so, that holiday break should give me plenty of time
> > for openFIRST (and other unrelated) stuff.

Cool. Maybe some work could be done on the module repo code (think
addons.mozilla.org for openFIRST.).

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Re: [openFIRST-devel] Module system working and what's next

[David Di B. <dav...@gm...>]

I'll let you know when I'm available and we can discuss. Cheers,

Dave

On 10/24/05, Jamie Bliss <ast...@gm...> wrote:
>
> This is a post to the openFIRST discussion list, subscription management
> information is included at the bottom of this message.
> _______________________________________________
>
> Odd. My midterms aren't 'till January... ;)
>
> Also for the todo list, the various implementations of DataBase need
> to be tested (specifically, the query assembling in the wrapper
> methods). The structure-modification methods especially need to be
> examined. (There's probably a reason why many cross-server resources
> don't include structure.)
>
> On 10/24/05, David Di Biase <dav...@gm...> wrote:
> > Midterms are almost done for me. I have a research methods (bivariate
> cross
> > tabulation) lab due tomorrow and today at 3:00 I have an american
> politics
> > exam (it's all about the US constitutional history and the electoral
> system
> > - eug).
>
> We don't like it much either.
>
> > Then I'm free except for the mountain of accounting I have to jam into
> my
> > computer. Plus my house needs a nice clean atm it's wicked messy. Oh an=
d
> my
> > dads company just got BlackBerries so they want me to have
> CashierServices
> > send them daily sales reports by e-mail -_-
> >
> > After that I'm free!
>
> Sorta like me and my mountain of want-to-dos.
>
> > I'm not sure about my December schedule but I will try to dedicate time
> to
> > openFIRST as well.
> >
> > On 10/24/05, Tim Ginn <ti...@op...> wrote:
> > > ... I know my exam schedule now and am done super
> > > early (Dec. 9th) so, that holiday break should give me plenty of time
> > > for openFIRST (and other unrelated) stuff.
>
> Cool. Maybe some work could be done on the module repo code (think
> addons.mozilla.org <http://addons.mozilla.org> for openFIRST.).
>
> --
> Jamie
> -------------------------------------------------------------------
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