During the OEMR meeting yesterday, the nomination of Brady for the office of Executive Director was brought forth by the Personel Committee.
Because the election requires the full participation of the Board & because it is difficult for all Board members to gather at a single meeting, the consensus was to use the provision of Article VI, Section 10 to conduct a write-in ballot for the election.
Gentlemen of the Board of Directors, please cast your votes here.
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I, Tony McCormmick, Chairman and President of the OEMR, hereby vote NO to to the proposal for election of an Executive Director
Please understand that this is NOT a vote against Brady. Brady would make a fine Exec Dir, IF we were in the market to HIRE one and IF Brady did not already have a full time job.
I helped write the ByLaws, and the Executive Director position is NOT intended for election of a volunteer contributor. It was specifically intended to be used in the event that the OEMR had raised a significant and consitent amount of funding, such as a large corporate sponsor (like Oracle is for OpenOffice and MySQL). Then we would need to have a a FULL TIME employee to manage the day-to-day business. We do NOT have day-to-day business at this time and I firmly believe that the current (excellent) board members can handle the business we do have.
I has requested that this vote be held until I could attend the board meeting and explain my position, but that did not happen.
Thanks
Tony
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Using your above line of logic, can you further explain the following 2 discrepancies:
Sam Bowen was voted in as an Executive Director in 2/10/2011 unanimously(and you were present). Sam also had a full time job at the time. And this vote was carried out by original OEMR members (including yourself) using the original intentions of the bylaws. Here is link to the minutes: http://www.open-emr.org/wiki/images/e/e7/OEMR_2011-02-10_Special_Meeting.pdf
Sam Bowen was voted in as an Executive Director in 2/10/2011
unanimously(and you were present). Sam also had a full time job at the
time. And this vote was carried out by original OEMR members (including
yourself) using the original intentions of the bylaws. Here is link to the
minutes:
That was a joke, frankly probably in bad taste and I apologize
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Additional note: Sam did not do anything as executive director for exactly the reasons stated above. The Board at the time did a number of things, none of which were lasting, except what I did for MU1.
I have been holding the fort for a long time now and I am THRILLED to have a full board to help me.
We really do not need anything else at this time.
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Thankfully, individual board members don't get to decide and/or dictate what the organization needs. The Personnel Committee has already considered the needs of the organization and placed a nomination for an Executive Director. And it is now up for the Board to decide what it needs.
According to the bylaws, the Executive Director has the following fiscal responsibilities:
1. Custody of and be responsible for all funds and securities of the organization.
2. Receive and give receipts for monies due and payable to the corporation from any source, and deposit all monies in the corporation's name in banks, trust companies, or other depositories that the Board selects.
3. Submit the books and records to a Certified Public Accountant or other accountant for annual audit or review.
4. In general, guard the safety of the organization's funds and avoid any misappropriation of the organization's funds, as well as perform other financial duties, as directed by the Board.
These seem like important responsibilities that should be filled by a warm body...
-brady
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Not dictated, just my vote and opinion
On Apr 18, 2016 12:58 AM, "Brady Miller" bradymiller@users.sf.net wrote:
Hi Tony,
Thankfully, individual board members don't get to decide and/or dictate
what the organization needs. The Personnel Committee has already considered
the needs of the organization and placed a nomination for an Executive
Director. And it is now up for the Board to decide what is needs.
According the the bylaws, the Executive Director has the following fiscal
responsibilities:
1. Custody of and be responsible for all funds and securities of the
organization.
2. Receive and give receipts for monies due and payable to the corporation
from any source, and deposit all monies in the corporation's name in banks,
trust companies, or other depositories that the Board selects.
3. Submit the books and records to a Certified Public Accountant or other
accountant for annual audit or review.
4. In general, guard the safety of the organization's funds and avoid any
misappropriation of the organization's funds, as well as perform other
financial duties, as directed by the Board.
These seem like important responsibilities that should be filled by a warm
body...
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Yes, thankfully that is the case, and thank you for taking the time to place a vote.
The issue was not with your vote, which you are free to do without interference. The issue was with the discrepancies/inconsistencies in the reasoning of your vote, which I have already pointed out.
-brady
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I would like to say that I am very grateful for all the hard work and dedication that both Mr. Miller and McCormick have provided to the OEMR project. My observation is that the Federal Regulations on CEHRT requirements is capricious and ill-conceived. I can only imagine the level of frustration all the developers must experience. I am afraid that the OEMR project may be abandoned because of the frustration. A project as big as a CERHT EHR would normally take investment capital and a team of dedicated full-time developers to come to fruition. That OEMR exists is almost miraculous to me.
Now to my point, has anyone considered applying for a grant (http://www.hhs.gov/grants/grants/)? The OEMR project is deserving of federal funding. I think that would be a good issue for the ED to take on. I would be happy to help in anyway that I can (214-396-5227)
Thanks to everyone involved in the project.
Frank Saporito MD
Dallas, TX
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The grants available through the federal government are awarded to fill specific requirements. I subscribe to the postings for the Health Care related grants, and haven't seen one yet that would be generic enough that could apply to MU2 funding.
I may have missed potential grants that would be worth pursuing, so anyone should feel free to take a look, but honestly it seems like a pretty long shot to get funding for OEMR in this manner for a variety of reasons.
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We do have a member of the community, fsgl, whom has been itching to start the grant writing process for MU3. However, the OEMR organization needs to be "healthy" before this can be done(when submitting a grant, the facility/organization "health" weighs heavily in the decision). The OEMR organization was dormant for several years and upon reawakening this year, there have been some issues that we are working out to improve the organization's "health". And considering the long turn around time of grants and the closing gap on MU3, with a sense of urgency, there has been a focus on some basic issues:
1. Tax status clear and transparent
2. Accounting clear and transparent
3. Obtaining quorum at all monthly meetings
4. Having records (ie. minutes) of all monthly meetings
5. Online place where all above information is accessible to OEMR and public
6. Establish Officers and an Executive Director
To even begin to apply for funding grants, these basic things need to be solid. To keep things as transparent as possible, we are currently documenting everything regarding the OEMR organization here: http://www.open-emr.org/wiki/index.php/OEMR_wiki_page
-brady
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Just a comment from the sidelines. I really like the idea of non-vendors such as Brady being in decision-making roles. This will also give funding organizations a reason to think that their money will be well spent. I'm feeling optimistic with the current direction.
Agree with Rod on the idea of "Vendors" not being in the decision making role rather in an advisory or contributing role. This will definitely will give a much more professional view to the community as "Open Source"
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During the OEMR meeting yesterday, the nomination of Brady for the office of Executive Director was brought forth by the Personel Committee.
Because the election requires the full participation of the Board & because it is difficult for all Board members to gather at a single meeting, the consensus was to use the provision of Article VI, Section 10 to conduct a write-in ballot for the election.
Gentlemen of the Board of Directors, please cast your votes here.
I, Sena Palanisami, the undersigned, cast my vote for Brady Miller to serve as Executive Director.
-Signed-
Sena Palanisami
I, Jit Chawla, the undersigned, cast my vote for Brady Miller to serve as Executive Director.
-Signed-
Jit Chawla
I cast my vote for Brady. Lou
Relevant sections of the Bylaws are attached.
thanks fsgl, please note the formal action to be signed by each director:
I, the undersigned, cast my vote for Brady Miller to serve as Executive Director.
Aye for Brady,
signed,
Stephen Waite
Yes for Brady,
Signed
Roberto Vasquez
I, Brady Miller, the undersigned, cast my vote for Brady Miller to serve as Executive Director.
-Signed-
Brady Miller
I, Shameem C Hameed, the undersigned, cast my vote for Brady Miller to serve as Executive Director.
-Signed-
Shameem C Hameed
I, Robert Down, the undersigned, cast my vote for Brady Miller to serve as Executive Director.
-Signed-
Robert Down
I, Tony McCormmick, Chairman and President of the OEMR, hereby vote NO to to the proposal for election of an Executive Director
Please understand that this is NOT a vote against Brady. Brady would make a fine Exec Dir, IF we were in the market to HIRE one and IF Brady did not already have a full time job.
I helped write the ByLaws, and the Executive Director position is NOT intended for election of a volunteer contributor. It was specifically intended to be used in the event that the OEMR had raised a significant and consitent amount of funding, such as a large corporate sponsor (like Oracle is for OpenOffice and MySQL). Then we would need to have a a FULL TIME employee to manage the day-to-day business. We do NOT have day-to-day business at this time and I firmly believe that the current (excellent) board members can handle the business we do have.
I has requested that this vote be held until I could attend the board meeting and explain my position, but that did not happen.
Thanks
Tony
Hi Tony,
Thank you for posting your vote and thoughts.
Using your above line of logic, can you further explain the following 2 discrepancies:
Sam Bowen was voted in as an Executive Director in 2/10/2011 unanimously(and you were present). Sam also had a full time job at the time. And this vote was carried out by original OEMR members (including yourself) using the original intentions of the bylaws. Here is link to the minutes:
http://www.open-emr.org/wiki/images/e/e7/OEMR_2011-02-10_Special_Meeting.pdf
Your offer to take over the Executive Director job recently:
https://sourceforge.net/p/openemr/discussion/oemr_501c3/thread/d82bf3ed/#4302
thanks,
-brady
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wrote:
Tony McCormick, CTO
www.mi-squared.com
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Additional note: Sam did not do anything as executive director for exactly the reasons stated above. The Board at the time did a number of things, none of which were lasting, except what I did for MU1.
I have been holding the fort for a long time now and I am THRILLED to have a full board to help me.
We really do not need anything else at this time.
Hi Tony,
Thankfully, individual board members don't get to decide and/or dictate what the organization needs. The Personnel Committee has already considered the needs of the organization and placed a nomination for an Executive Director. And it is now up for the Board to decide what it needs.
According to the bylaws, the Executive Director has the following fiscal responsibilities:
1. Custody of and be responsible for all funds and securities of the organization.
2. Receive and give receipts for monies due and payable to the corporation from any source, and deposit all monies in the corporation's name in banks, trust companies, or other depositories that the Board selects.
3. Submit the books and records to a Certified Public Accountant or other accountant for annual audit or review.
4. In general, guard the safety of the organization's funds and avoid any misappropriation of the organization's funds, as well as perform other financial duties, as directed by the Board.
These seem like important responsibilities that should be filled by a warm body...
-brady
Last edit: Brady Miller 2016-04-17
Not dictated, just my vote and opinion
On Apr 18, 2016 12:58 AM, "Brady Miller" bradymiller@users.sf.net wrote:
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Hi Tony,
Yes, thankfully that is the case, and thank you for taking the time to place a vote.
The issue was not with your vote, which you are free to do without interference. The issue was with the discrepancies/inconsistencies in the reasoning of your vote, which I have already pointed out.
-brady
You always have to have the last word.... getting a bit tired of that, but whatever
Funny... I really do like you Brady... :-)
On Apr 18, 2016 2:59 AM, "Brady Miller" bradymiller@users.sf.net wrote:
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I would like to say that I am very grateful for all the hard work and dedication that both Mr. Miller and McCormick have provided to the OEMR project. My observation is that the Federal Regulations on CEHRT requirements is capricious and ill-conceived. I can only imagine the level of frustration all the developers must experience. I am afraid that the OEMR project may be abandoned because of the frustration. A project as big as a CERHT EHR would normally take investment capital and a team of dedicated full-time developers to come to fruition. That OEMR exists is almost miraculous to me.
Now to my point, has anyone considered applying for a grant (http://www.hhs.gov/grants/grants/)? The OEMR project is deserving of federal funding. I think that would be a good issue for the ED to take on. I would be happy to help in anyway that I can (214-396-5227)
Thanks to everyone involved in the project.
Frank Saporito MD
Dallas, TX
http://www.grants.gov/web/grants/search-grants.html
The grants available through the federal government are awarded to fill specific requirements. I subscribe to the postings for the Health Care related grants, and haven't seen one yet that would be generic enough that could apply to MU2 funding.
I may have missed potential grants that would be worth pursuing, so anyone should feel free to take a look, but honestly it seems like a pretty long shot to get funding for OEMR in this manner for a variety of reasons.
Regarding grants,
We do have a member of the community, fsgl, whom has been itching to start the grant writing process for MU3. However, the OEMR organization needs to be "healthy" before this can be done(when submitting a grant, the facility/organization "health" weighs heavily in the decision). The OEMR organization was dormant for several years and upon reawakening this year, there have been some issues that we are working out to improve the organization's "health". And considering the long turn around time of grants and the closing gap on MU3, with a sense of urgency, there has been a focus on some basic issues:
1. Tax status clear and transparent
2. Accounting clear and transparent
3. Obtaining quorum at all monthly meetings
4. Having records (ie. minutes) of all monthly meetings
5. Online place where all above information is accessible to OEMR and public
6. Establish Officers and an Executive Director
To even begin to apply for funding grants, these basic things need to be solid. To keep things as transparent as possible, we are currently documenting everything regarding the OEMR organization here:
http://www.open-emr.org/wiki/index.php/OEMR_wiki_page
-brady
Last edit: Brady Miller 2016-04-20
Just a comment from the sidelines. I really like the idea of non-vendors such as Brady being in decision-making roles. This will also give funding organizations a reason to think that their money will be well spent. I'm feeling optimistic with the current direction.
Carry on. :)
Rod
http://www.sunsetsystems.com/
Agree with Rod on the idea of "Vendors" not being in the decision making role rather in an advisory or contributing role. This will definitely will give a much more professional view to the community as "Open Source"