Re: [Openefm-development] Authentication and Attorney Registration

[Jeremiah J. <jer...@go...>]

On Tue, 2005-03-08 at 12:08 -0600, Jeremiah Jahn wrote:
> or to phrase it another way, Who do you idenifiy Who, not where, the
> filing came from?

cause I can type....that should read HOW do you identify who not where
the filing came from?

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> On Tue, 2005-03-08 at 09:49 -0800, Jason Van Cleve wrote:
> > Quoth Jeremiah Jahn, on Tue, 08 Mar 2005 11:10:59 -0600:
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> > > What's the standard authentication scheme for the EFP to use with the
> > > EFM?=20
> >=20
> > Here again let it be said, there is really no industry standard for thi=
s
> > stuff.  We have been using HTTP BASIC, for simplicity.
> >=20
> > > Does the court use the EFM to setup users and then the user take that
> > > id/password to the EFP and register it? Then does it use that ip/pass
> >=20
> > Yes, if I follow you.
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> > > pair to insure that a filer is who they say they are? It seems that
> >=20
> > Not the IP, just the login.  I could code in an IP check easy enough,
> > though, for cases where that is static.
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> > > you need more than just an ID to associate who filed what. If I find
> >=20
> > The EFM user is needed for the EFP to connect to the EFM.  The EFP has
> > users of its own.  To which are you referring?  Currently our EFM takes
> > no interest in EFP users.  If there is a billing operation to perform,
> > we take the necessary data from the legal XML, but we do not relate
> > those data to any "user" entity.
> >=20
> > > out that atty bob's id is 12 and I register with the EFP to use id 12
> > > when dealing with a court's EFM all sorts of bad things could happen.
> > > When I look at the examples and you code, I see no references to the
> > > actual filer, nor any security to insure they are who they say they
> > > are...I do see id/pass for the EFP to connect to the EFM, but that
> > > doesn't seem like enough. What is the general procedure for this stuf=
f
> > > to work? This also brings up the question of how do PRO SE filers get
> > > identified/approved with the court?=20
> >=20
> > I'm glad you're looking closely.  Our EFM is fundamentally agnostic.=20
> > Accordingly, it doesn't care much for the content of filings, just thei=
r
> > form.  The paradigm, I would say, is that if it's good enough for the
> > clerk reviewing it, it's good enough for the EFM.  So to answer your
> > question, our EFM doesn't authenticate users of the EFP, only the EFP
> > itself.  To OpenEFM, the EFP is the user.
> >=20
> > --Jason
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