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#109 Feature request: auto-break mail loops

1.3.0
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2017-07-07
2014-10-21
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This weekend I had a mail loop generating in excess of 26000 emails. I had set the following in opendmarc.conf:
FailureReports true
RejectFailures true

I had sucessfully received an email from fedex.com. That night my system sent out the aggregate reports, including one to the RUA published for fedex.com - dmarc@fedex.com .

However, for some bizarre reason, Fedex refused to receive this email with a "550 Denied by policy" bounce message from Mailer-Daemon@mx??.infosec.fedex.com . The latter message was not DKIM signed, hence failed DKIM alignment. It also failed SPF alignment and hence failed DMARC and so my system sent a failure report to dmarc@fedex.com... and so on for thousands of times.

I have had to set FailureReports to false (and have also set RejectFailures to false) to break the loop.

Is it possible to add a feature to opendmarc to automatically detect and break mail loops?

Thanks
Steve

Discussion

  • A. Schulze

    A. Schulze - 2014-10-21

    what about not sending failure reports for messages with empty envelope sender?
    or - and that goes in the same direction as Ticket 96 -
    implement lookup tables. That way users could explicit disable reporting for broken domains.

     
  • Murray S. Kucherawy

    • assigned_to: Murray S. Kucherawy
     
  • Steve W

    Steve W - 2017-03-09

    Seeing a similar problem with paypal.com since last week.
    The following message to dk@bounce.paypal.com was undeliverable.
    The reason for the problem:
    5.1.2 - Bad destination host 'DNS Hard Error looking up bounce.paypal.com (MX): NXDomain'

     
  • Andrew Meredith

    Andrew Meredith - 2017-05-12

    I regularly get issues with report mailboxes simply being over-quota and rejecting reports .. with invalid SPF/DKIM .. which creates another report, which gets rejected, and so on.

    A file listing blacklisted domains that don't get sent reports would be very good.

     
    • Juri Haberland

      Juri Haberland - 2017-05-12

      You might want to look at the patch in tickt #205. This does what you want.

       
  • Eneas Ulir de Queiroz

    I haven't had this issue yet, but I've encontered a similar (although not as severe) endless loop with aggregate reports. I've noticed hosts sending me a report of a single message everyday. I have figured out we were sending each other aggregate reports about the delivery of each other's aggregate reports. What I have done was to create a config entry with a list of email addresses that would prevent opendmarc from recording a history file entry, and I've exteded it to not generate a failure report as well. This should break the loops, as the bounce is supposed to be returned to the sender, which being in the list, would not generate another report. I have not tested this thoroughly, but it has apparently worked here.

     

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