Re: [Opencxx-users] What's fair (Was: License issues)

[Grzegorz J. <ja...@he...>]

Stefan,

What you are doing is not a collaboration. If you want to keep your
patches away from OpenC++, do it, you have a legal right to do so.

> I believe this discussion has taken up enough bandwidth. Let's
> get on with our work. Let's get back to technical issues.

Before I reengage in thechnical discussion I would like to see how
resources I am going to invest in it will benefit OpenC++ project.

Best regards
Grzegorz


On Wed, 22 Sep 2004, Stefan Seefeld wrote:

> Grzegorz Jakacki wrote:
>
> > Your modifications to OpenC++ are under LGPL and you do not agree to
> > contribute them back to OpenC++ under current OpenC++ license. This is
> > effectively an ultimatum saying that if we want to use your patches we
> > need to switch to *your* license.
>
> I believe you get it all backwards: it's the LGPL that ensures the continual
> freedom to use, modify, and distribute any changes. Your license essentially
> states it doesn't care who's doing what with the code.
> I find it surprising that you now care so much. I invite you to join in and
> use the LGPL, as I believe that it will be a better device for you to make sure
> all changes are 'given back'. ;-)
>
>
> >>>Note also, that you were the only person so far explicitly
> >>>supporting LGPL and the honest discussion of licensing has
> >>>not taken place.
> >>
> >>I'v always developed under LGPL.
> >
> >
> > How does it apply?
>
> I'v integrated OpenC++ code into Synopsis about four to five years ago,
> and have ever since made modifications under LGPL. I simply intend to
> continue doing this. Nothing changes, as far as I'm concerned.
>
> So the 'honest discussion of licensing' you are talking about has to happen
> in your camp, not mine, if you want to use the code I develop.
> I encourage you to use my code, as long as you keep it freely available
> and modifiable, no matter how you distribute it. How's this unfair ?
>
> >>I'v also no problems incorporating
> >>minor patches into OpenC++ under any free license OpenC++ uses itself.
> >>
> >>However, if we are now talking about using Synopsis' own OpenC++ branch
> >>as the foundation of 'OpenC++ Core', this is a qualitative change. I
> >>find it quite natural that this discussion takes place now, and I
> >>don't understand why you are accusing me of 'confronting' anybody
> >>with an 'ultimatum'.
> >
> >
> > Because you are expecting OpenC++ to bend to your model or else we cannot
> > use your patches. This is hardly a collaborative approach.
>
> I don't expect anything. I develop Synopsis, and I'd be more than
> happy to see people use and enhance it. If you believe my use of
> OpenCxx code is not correct, I encourage you to change *your* license to
> express in what way you'd want to restrict how people like me may use it.
>
> I believe this discussion has taken up enough bandwidth. Let's
> get on with our work. Let's get back to technical issues.
>
> Regards,
> 		Stefan
>
>
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