Re: [Opencd-devel] Release an in-development version right away, and then modify.

[Henrik N. O. <h....@bt...>]

David and others,

Yes, I basically agree with all of this.  Let's make a version 0.01. 
Perhaps we can just build on the one Martin made.  I would suggest
choosing some small apps for the trial iso though, such as freeamp and
Xchat, so that we can easily distribute it amongst ourselves.

An advantage of doing an Html Solution is that we can work on the
contents and the machinery in parallel.  That is, one group can work on
making nice pages with information about the apps., install help, open
source backgound and all that, with the understanding that: "Yes, we
know that this does not work perfectly in all browsers, but it gives us
a good idea."  And then others can work on customizing K-meleon (say)
with very clearly agreed upn specs.  Namely that it should basically be
a stripped down HTML engine that runs in full screen mode and is able to
launch certain pre-defined .exe files without complaint.

About the forum:  The old data _has_ been saved, and Alan is now working
on trying to integrate it into the opensourceware.net forum.  In any
case we should be able to make a long text file with all the posts if
nothing else.

I have now enabled anonymous ftp with upload on theopencd.org site (ip:
66.197.181.104)  This should be fine as long as it doesn't get abused
...     There is limed space, but it should be ok for graphics and small
zip files.

- Henrik

On Fri, 2002-05-03 at 14:34, David Wheeler wrote:
> 
> I believe the most important thing to do is GET STARTED.
> 
> Pick just a few applications (say, Open Office and Mozilla),
> pick a simple way to get them installed (say, using HTML),
> create a simple ISO image that can invoke their installers,
> and release that as version 0.01 of the CD.
> Open Office is already officially out (as is Abiword),
> and there's no reason to wait for  the next release of Mozilla.
> 
> Once that's done, it will be MUCH easier to suggest improvements,
> and you counter the argument that "it's all vaporware".
> Plan to have a LOT of "developer" releases before and between each
> end-user release, just like any other open source/free software
> project.  That way, you can find and fix more end-user problems.
> 
> I posted a number of other suggestions on the other forum that
> are apparantly now trashed.  I REALLY hope you can recover the
> data at least.  For example, I provided some text that might be
> useful for your splash screen, and when you're ready to add
> open source software/free software documents, I gave lots of
> references for those documents (many of the references are available via
> http://www.dwheeler.com/oss_fs_refs.html and
> http://www.dwheeler.com/oss_fs_why.html).
> 
> In the longer term, I can imagine multiple versions of the CD.
> Perhaps there will be "desktop", "server", and "programmer" versions,
> each of which come in "Windows" and "MacOS" flavors.
> But start small and right away, then do the other stuff later.
> 
> Also - I don't think you should include source code on the
> _same_ CD-ROM; most users won't request it, and those who later
> decide they want it can download it.  Create a separate ISO image
> for the source code, and make that available at the website.
> Actually, for noncommercial redistribution you can just supply
> a link to where the code is.  As I understand it,
> this is allowed by the GPL; here's the relevant GPL text
> for what you have to do if you don't include the source code:
> 
>     b) Accompany it with a written offer, valid for at least three
>      years, to give any third party, for a charge no more than your
>      cost of physically performing source distribution, a complete
>      machine-readable copy of the corresponding source code, to be
>      distributed under the terms of Sections 1 and 2 above on a medium
>      customarily used for software interchange; or,
> 
>      c) Accompany it with the information you received as to the offer
>      to distribute corresponding source code.  (This alternative is
>      allowed only for noncommercial distribution and only if you
>      received the program in object code or executable form with such
>      an offer, in accord with Subsection b above.)
> 
> 
> 
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