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From: David T. <Yo...@us...> - 2006-05-08 17:25:57
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Hi, I'm currently away from my office and quite busy with real-life (i.e. finding a decent job). Therefore, I haven't been able to work on OpenBerg during the past few weeks. The lack of news in my absence is somewhat worrying, though. I'd like some updates on everybody else's status, please. Cheers, David |
From: David T. <Yo...@us...> - 2006-05-03 19:49:48
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Ok, I thought I would have time to look at this, but it turns out that I'm way too busy at the moment. Could anyone else take this ? Thanks, David |
From: Joseph F. <jo...@fe...> - 2006-05-03 19:01:12
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All: I tried to install the latest OpenBerg on a fresh install of Firefox 1.5.0.2 on Slackware Linux 10.2 (had to replace a hard drive) and I get the following: Fatal error at startup OpenBerg could not launch, load its files, services or error-message translations. The full error report is TypeError: Components.classes['@openberg.org/BookLibrarian;1'] has no properties I have it working fine on 1.5.0.1 on Zenwalk Linux (which is Slackware-based) on my laptop. Cheers, joe f. -- Joseph Ferrare jo...@fe... http://www.ferrare.net |
From: Nick T. <nrt...@gm...> - 2006-04-25 09:49:19
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I don't know the details of gcc versions, but Mozilla is producing Universal binaries now. There is documentation for that here: http://developer.mozilla.org/en/docs/Mac_OS_X_Universal_Binaries Nightly development builds of Firefox 1.5.0.x are available here: http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/nightly/experimental/univers= al-binaries/latest-mozilla1.8.0/ and for 2.0 you can dig around in http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/nightly/ for directories with name YYYY-MM-DD-HH-mozilla1.8 and with dmg's about 16MB in size. Eg: http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/nightly/2006-04-24-07-mozi= lla1.8/ So it certainly looks like Firefox can be compiled with gcc 4. Nick On 4/25/06, Vincent Bernardi <ber...@ma...> wrote: > Here's a round-up on the state of OpenBerg on the Mac, for anyone > interested. > > The current version compiles and run very well on the Mac OS X 10.4/ > PPC platform, at least when built concurrently with Firefox (I don't > know about XULRunner). > > Two Mac OS X-specific (?) bugs have been detected as of today: > - The window auto-resize widget (top-left on Mac OS X) and the window > hand-resize widget (bottom-right) are both missing on the mac version. > - The Page forward and Page-Back buttons both become VERY slow after > a few clicks, and it only becomes worse over time. The GoToPage menu > works fine. > > The PPC binary also works with the PPC version of Firefox on Macs > with Intel CPUs (using the Rosetta emulation layer provided by Apple, > only test done with a Mac mini). However, the same PPC binary (as > expected) won't work with the Intel version of Firefox, since Rosetta > works only application-wide. Furthermore, I haven't yet found a way > to compile OB for Intel, since 1=B0/ I only know how to compile it with > FF, 2=B0/Firefox compilation needs a gcc 3 variant and 3=B0/Apple only > distributes gcc 4 for compilation on MacIntels. Any idea in this > matter much appreciated. > > Enzo90910 > > ------------------------------------------------------- > Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? > Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job ea= sier > Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronim= o > http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmdlnk&kid=120709&bid&3057&dat=121642 > _______________________________________________ > Openberg-devel mailing list > Ope...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/openberg-devel > |
From: Vincent B. <ber...@ma...> - 2006-04-25 08:48:14
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Here's a round-up on the state of OpenBerg on the Mac, for anyone =20 interested. The current version compiles and run very well on the Mac OS X 10.4/=20 PPC platform, at least when built concurrently with Firefox (I don't =20 know about XULRunner). Two Mac OS X-specific (?) bugs have been detected as of today: - The window auto-resize widget (top-left on Mac OS X) and the window =20= hand-resize widget (bottom-right) are both missing on the mac version. - The Page forward and Page-Back buttons both become VERY slow after =20 a few clicks, and it only becomes worse over time. The GoToPage menu =20 works fine. The PPC binary also works with the PPC version of Firefox on Macs =20 with Intel CPUs (using the Rosetta emulation layer provided by Apple, =20= only test done with a Mac mini). However, the same PPC binary (as =20 expected) won't work with the Intel version of Firefox, since Rosetta =20= works only application-wide. Furthermore, I haven't yet found a way =20 to compile OB for Intel, since 1=B0/ I only know how to compile it with =20= FF, 2=B0/Firefox compilation needs a gcc 3 variant and 3=B0/Apple only =20= distributes gcc 4 for compilation on MacIntels. Any idea in this =20 matter much appreciated. Enzo90910= |
From: David T. <Yo...@us...> - 2006-04-24 10:35:17
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I think we did, a long time ago. But perhaps we were discussing something else. In any case, please accept my apologies for being unclear -- as you know, I've been quite busy with real-life work. Next time you think I omit something, please harass me until I have explained everything. I don't know the practice, as I'm not familiar with VC++ or WM, but I can tell you the general idea on how to connect your UI and OpenBerg's core. = Rough Overview = == Logistics == * create a new directory inside OpenBerg's directory for the Windows Mobile-specific code. Let's say src/wm (i.e. a directory "wm" at the same level as "components", "content"...). * adapt src/Makefile.in to get it to compile the content of this directory -- for now, don't worry about the fact that it's platform specific. I'll try and make it more generic later. * create a src/wm/Makefile.in to get your code to compile when you rebuild OpenBerg. == Coding == * create the forms, to do something like what the JS UI does. * include all necessary headers (take a look at the headers already included in OpenBerg's core .cpp files) * everything class nsIXXXX is a built-in Mozilla component * everything class obIXXXX is a component of OpenBerg * to get a service, use function do_GetService(...) -- basically, you need to get services whenever the JS code uses Components.classes[...].GetService() * to instanciate a component, use function do_CreateInstance(...) -- basically, you need to get services whenever the JS code uses Components.classes[...].CreateInstance() * whenever dealing with components, instead of using C++ pointers, use Mozilla's nsCOMPtr<...> pseudo-pointers. For just about everything, they behave as pointers. They're just safer. * everything else should be usual VC++ code. For reference on XPCom coding, see [1,2]. Good luck. Cheers, David [1] http://www-106.ibm.com/developerworks/components/library/co-xpcom.html [2] http://www.mozilla.org/projects/xpcom/book/cxc/ On Monday 24 April 2006 12:09, Abbey wrote: > Did we? > Well, I have created some forms in VC++, like I said but I'm not sure where > to go from there 'cos this is new to me. > Also, I'm not sure how to "connect" those forms with what you've done. > > On 4/24/06, David Teller <Yo...@us...> wrote: > > Just exactly why do you want JS on WM ? > > > > Didn't we convene that you would rewrite the whole UI with VC++ ? > > > > Cheers, > > David > > > > On Friday 21 April 2006 13:47, Abbey wrote: > > > I've finally got Minimo to build successfully but I'm having some > > > > problems > > > > > creating the installer. > > > The next step is to look into the possibilities with javascript on > > > > Windows > > > > > Mobile. > > > > > > Any help would be appreciated. > > > Thanks > > > > > > > > > -- > > > Abbey > > > > > > "It is better to eat a hen and live long, than to eat a cow and die a > > > sudden death." > > > > > > Proverb of unknown origin. > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > > Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? > > Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job > > easier > > Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache > > Geronimo > > http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnk&kid=120709&bid=263057&dat=121642 > > _______________________________________________ > > Openberg-devel mailing list > > Ope...@li... > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/openberg-devel > > -- > Abbey > > "It is better to eat a hen and live long, than to eat a cow and die a > sudden death." > > Proverb of unknown origin. |
From: Abbey <ab...@gm...> - 2006-04-24 10:09:32
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Did we? Well, I have created some forms in VC++, like I said but I'm not sure where to go from there 'cos this is new to me. Also, I'm not sure how to "connect" those forms with what you've done. On 4/24/06, David Teller <Yo...@us...> wrote: > > Just exactly why do you want JS on WM ? > > Didn't we convene that you would rewrite the whole UI with VC++ ? > > Cheers, > David > > On Friday 21 April 2006 13:47, Abbey wrote: > > I've finally got Minimo to build successfully but I'm having some > problems > > creating the installer. > > The next step is to look into the possibilities with javascript on > Windows > > Mobile. > > > > Any help would be appreciated. > > Thanks > > > > > > -- > > Abbey > > > > "It is better to eat a hen and live long, than to eat a cow and die a > > sudden death." > > > > Proverb of unknown origin. > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? > Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job > easier > Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronim= o > http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=3Dlnk&kid=3D120709&bid=3D263057&dat= =3D121642 > _______________________________________________ > Openberg-devel mailing list > Ope...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/openberg-devel > -- Abbey "It is better to eat a hen and live long, than to eat a cow and die a sudde= n death." Proverb of unknown origin. |
From: David T. <Yo...@us...> - 2006-04-24 09:50:15
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Just exactly why do you want JS on WM ? Didn't we convene that you would rewrite the whole UI with VC++ ? Cheers, David On Friday 21 April 2006 13:47, Abbey wrote: > I've finally got Minimo to build successfully but I'm having some problems > creating the installer. > The next step is to look into the possibilities with javascript on Windows > Mobile. > > Any help would be appreciated. > Thanks > > > -- > Abbey > > "It is better to eat a hen and live long, than to eat a cow and die a > sudden death." > > Proverb of unknown origin. |
From: Abbey <ab...@gm...> - 2006-04-24 06:28:32
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I've finally got Minimo to build successfully but I'm having some problems creating the installer. The next step is to look into the possibilities with javascript on Windows Mobile. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks -- Abbey "It is better to eat a hen and live long, than to eat a cow and die a sudde= n death." Proverb of unknown origin. |
From: David T. <Dav...@en...> - 2006-04-13 07:16:38
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Could you elaborate ? On Thursday 13 April 2006 09:05, Julien Appert wrote: > Sorry for the long silence, > > We have the highlight icon too. > > 2006/4/5, Bret S <eig...@gm...>: > > Yes, thank you very much, I'll get right on it! Have fun! > > -- > Julien Appert > www.apperisphere.com > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.Net email is sponsored by xPML, a groundbreaking scripting language > that extends applications into web and mobile media. Attend the live > webcast and join the prime developer group breaking into this new coding > territory! > http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnk&kid0944&bid$1720&dat1642 > _______________________________________________ > Openberg-devel mailing list > Ope...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/openberg-devel |
From: Julien A. <ap...@gm...> - 2006-04-13 07:05:51
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Sorry for the long silence, We have the highlight icon too. 2006/4/5, Bret S <eig...@gm...>: > Yes, thank you very much, I'll get right on it! Have fun! > > -- Julien Appert www.apperisphere.com |
From: David T. <Yo...@us...> - 2006-04-08 13:58:32
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Ok, Linux, Windows and Mac OSX versions have been released, thanks mainly to Abbey, Enzo and both Davids. It's now time to resume working on features. If it's possible, could those who haven't chosen a topic yet please do so -- or at least start asking the necessary questions to do so. Cheers, David |
From: Bret S <eig...@gm...> - 2006-04-05 00:05:34
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Yes, thank you very much, I'll get right on it! Have fun! |
From: David T. <Yo...@us...> - 2006-04-04 22:37:21
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Let me think... we currently have use for the following icons * application icon * previous page, next page * previous occurrence, next occurrence * differenciate small/high caps or not * find inside text/find inside tags (Julien, do I forget anything ?) =46or these tasks, we're currently reusing both Mozilla's and OpenOffice's= =20 icons. If you manage to make a nice set if icons to replace these, it might= =20 be a good idea. Of course, in this case, we'll have to ask you for more ico= ns=20 later, as new features are added. Cheers, Yoric P.S.: Is this what you mean by "Graphic" ? Le Mardi 04 Avril 2006 22:59, Bret S a =C3=A9crit=C2=A0: > Yes, do you want me to do any Graphic work yet? |
From: Bret S <eig...@gm...> - 2006-04-04 22:00:17
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Yes, do you want me to do any Graphic work yet? |
From: David T. <Yo...@us...> - 2006-04-04 21:41:27
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Starting tomorrow and for almost two months, I'll be abroad. I should be reachable by e-mail, but don't expect me to read it every day. I hope everybody has found something to work on. Otherwise, please ask whichever questions you have in mind. Cheers, Yoric |
From: David T. <Yo...@us...> - 2006-04-04 21:40:21
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Le Lundi 03 Avril 2006 21:40, Joseph Ferrare a =E9crit=A0: > Hi all: > > I'm getting this error when I open the latest (0.1.8) version of the > reader in Firefox 1.5.0.1: Okay, I think I actually put the XulRunner version on-line instead of the=20 =46irefox version. There's a new file called=20 openberg-reader-0.1.8-2-linux-x86.xpi available for download. Hopefully, it= =20 should work. Tell me if it solves the problem. > Anyway, a little help would be > appreciated. I'm trying to adapt sample XML files to get something > (anything) to display in the reader so I can define the markup needed > to get a Gutenberg text to display. As it stands, I get a window, > and the window will let me choose a file, but it won't display > anything. Don't know if that's the fault of the program or my sample > files. You won't be able to display anything until the previous error is fixed. I'= m=20 afraid that OpenBerg doesn't offer (yet) any interesting error message to=20 help you find out problems with books. I hope we'll be able to implement th= is=20 by Milestone 3. Please keep us informed, Cheers, Yoric |
From: Joseph F. <jo...@fe...> - 2006-04-04 17:37:46
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Yoric: I'm using Zenwalk 2.2, which I keep fairly current. Kernel is 2.6.15.4-SMP. I'm running a 32-bit distro on a 64-bit processor. If it's easier to use another distro or something, I've got a spare partition I was going to fill up with FreeBSD 6.0. I can put something else on there. I'm kind of a distro junkie, so it's not a problem. I can also use a laptop, which has Zenwalk (and Windows) on it if you think it's an SMP thing. Sorry to be a bother. Cheers, joe f. I'll look at this. Can you tell me which version of Linux you're using ? Thanks, Yoric -- Joseph Ferrare jo...@fe... http://www.ferrare.net |
From: David T. <Yo...@us...> - 2006-04-04 09:05:23
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I'll look at this. Can you tell me which version of Linux you're using ? Thanks, Yoric Le Lundi 03 Avril 2006 21:40, Joseph Ferrare a =E9crit=A0: > Hi all: > > I'm getting this error when I open the latest (0.1.8) version of the > reader in Firefox 1.5.0.1: > > Fatal error at startup. > OpenBerg could not launch, load its files, services or error-message > translations. > The full error report is > TypeError: Components.classes['@openberg.org/BookLibrarian;1] has no > properties. > > I was under the impression it was the version that was good to go on > 1.5. Sorry if I'm wrong. Anyway, a little help would be > appreciated. I'm trying to adapt sample XML files to get something > (anything) to display in the reader so I can define the markup needed > to get a Gutenberg text to display. As it stands, I get a window, > and the window will let me choose a file, but it won't display > anything. Don't know if that's the fault of the program or my sample > files. > > I'm running in Linux, more details forthcoming if they're relevant. > > Thanks, > > joe f. |
From: Bret S <eig...@gm...> - 2006-04-03 22:22:51
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If anyone needs an graphic work or layout/design I would be obliged to help= . -BS eig...@gm... <eig...@gm...> |
From: Joseph F. <jo...@fe...> - 2006-04-03 20:41:10
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Hi all: I'm getting this error when I open the latest (0.1.8) version of the reader in Firefox 1.5.0.1: Fatal error at startup. OpenBerg could not launch, load its files, services or error-message translations. The full error report is TypeError: Components.classes['@openberg.org/BookLibrarian;1] has no properties. I was under the impression it was the version that was good to go on 1.5. Sorry if I'm wrong. Anyway, a little help would be appreciated. I'm trying to adapt sample XML files to get something (anything) to display in the reader so I can define the markup needed to get a Gutenberg text to display. As it stands, I get a window, and the window will let me choose a file, but it won't display anything. Don't know if that's the fault of the program or my sample files. I'm running in Linux, more details forthcoming if they're relevant. Thanks, joe f. -- Joseph Ferrare jo...@fe... http://www.ferrare.net |
From: David T. <Yo...@us...> - 2006-04-01 10:39:49
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Note: Shynazu, could you take notes of Joseph's process and update the link= to=20 oebps ? Hi Joseph, Good morning and welcome to the group. Let me answer your mail in the orde= r. 0.1/ Good process 0.2/ Indeed, the book must be based on OEBPS 1.2 1/ As far as possible, your final text should be in Xhtml. It is possible t= o=20 obtain Xhtml automatically from Html by using a converter such as HTML Tidy. 2/ Yes. 3/ That shouldn't be necessary, but if you feel the need, go for it. In thi= s=20 case, I suggest reading explanations of the specifications rather than the= =20 specs themselves, as these are quite hard to digest. 4.1/ Actually, it would be along "create new file, add in required tags".=20 "Pure" xhtml should work, as long as the package file is added. 4.2/ For the sake of convenience, I suggest compressing all the files=20 containing one book (e.g. one file per chapter + the package file) into one= =20 single Zip archive. 5/ Yep. post-5/ I personally know neither Tea nor Bluefish, so I can't give you my opinion = on=20 the subject. I'll try to add more details as soon as I can. That probably won't be befor= e=20 Monday as I'm somewhat on the run this week-end. Yes, it's one of these=20 weeks. Well, more one of these lifetimes. Good luck, Yoric Le Samedi 01 Avril 2006 09:08, Joseph Ferrare a =E9crit=A0: > All: > > Good morning from Germany. I understand a good place for me to start > helping out is to build a book, which will also be a start for a > tutorial and maybe the help system content. So I thought I'd start > by trying to build a book, take notes, ask questions, etc. > > Bear with me as I explain what I've done so someone who actually > knows can spot any errors I might have made. If nothing else it will > tell you how a person running across the web site might proceed based > on what's up there. > > From the web site I've gleaned that the book must be based on the > open ebook standard, which right now seems to be the Open eBook > Publication Structure, oeb 1.2. From looking at the spec briefly > that seems to mean it has to have enough XML for the reader to > identify what it's looking at and what the components of the package > are. > > So to build a book I need to: > > 1. Get some text (project gutenberg) > Question: is it better to start with plain text, html or > something else? > > 2. Read the oeb 1.2 specification to determine the basics of what it > takes to turn a text (html, whatever) file into a book the reader can > identify. > > 3. Probably read parts of xml specification 1.0 to figure out what > oeb 1.2 is talking about. > > 4. Open file, add in required tags. > > 5. If it works, send book to others to see if it works for them, to= o. > > I plan to do all this in either Tea or Bluefish. If those are bad > choices, a clue would be appreciated. > > Any direction would be appreciated. > > As a side note the open ebook forum is now the international digital > publishing forum, so we might want to change the link text. > > See ya, > > joe f. |
From: Joseph F. <jo...@fe...> - 2006-04-01 08:08:55
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All: Good morning from Germany. I understand a good place for me to start helping out is to build a book, which will also be a start for a tutorial and maybe the help system content. So I thought I'd start by trying to build a book, take notes, ask questions, etc. Bear with me as I explain what I've done so someone who actually knows can spot any errors I might have made. If nothing else it will tell you how a person running across the web site might proceed based on what's up there. From the web site I've gleaned that the book must be based on the open ebook standard, which right now seems to be the Open eBook Publication Structure, oeb 1.2. From looking at the spec briefly that seems to mean it has to have enough XML for the reader to identify what it's looking at and what the components of the package are. So to build a book I need to: 1. Get some text (project gutenberg) Question: is it better to start with plain text, html or something else? 2. Read the oeb 1.2 specification to determine the basics of what it takes to turn a text (html, whatever) file into a book the reader can identify. 3. Probably read parts of xml specification 1.0 to figure out what oeb 1.2 is talking about. 4. Open file, add in required tags. 5. If it works, send book to others to see if it works for them, too. I plan to do all this in either Tea or Bluefish. If those are bad choices, a clue would be appreciated. Any direction would be appreciated. As a side note the open ebook forum is now the international digital publishing forum, so we might want to change the link text. See ya, joe f. -- Joseph Ferrare jo...@fe... http://www.ferrare.net |
From: Bret S <eig...@gm...> - 2006-04-01 02:47:04
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Hello, my name is Bret, I am a freelance graphic/web designer from Philadelphia and I would very much enjoy helping out on this project. I would be interested in working on the design elements (logos, icons, promotional) as well as the user interface of OpenBerg. I have fiddled with FF extensions in the past even developing some of my own, however they were quite juvenile and basic. My native speaking language is English, and my native computer language is Visual Basic, hehe! I am currently running XP at home and OSX at school. I am extremely talented and fluent in most artistic geared software (Photoshop, Illustrator, Fireworks), and I'm a hardcore liberal. -Bret |
From: Joseph F. <jo...@fe...> - 2006-03-31 22:25:58
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Hello all: I'm hoping to help out with some writing/documentation/PR tasks. My primary language is English, and my secondary language is incomprehensible hand gestures and apologetic, but exasperated, noises (I live in Germany, but don't speak much German). Beyond that I can make Koreans laugh by saying wildly inappropriate things in hangul. At various times during the last 25 years or so I've been a journalist, editor, pr person and instructor, so I'm conversant (though hardly expert) in things like photography, desktop publishing, publication design, pr campaigns, presentations and so on. If there's ever a call for any of those skills I'm willing to help out there, too. See ya, joe f. -- Joseph Ferrare jo...@fe... http://www.ferrare.net |