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From: Ryan B. <rbe...@vm...> - 2008-07-02 23:31:48
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Ernest G. Wilson II wrote: > Question: > > Does Shrink work using the Open Virtual Machine Tools? > > If so, does anyone have it running in FreeBSD 7? Hey, Ernie, Would you do please do me a favor and try the following patch? TIA! -- Ryan Beasley <rbe...@vm...> |
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From: Adar D. <ad...@vm...> - 2008-07-02 08:08:11
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> In FreeBSD 6 using the older vmware-tools (that don't run on > FreeBSD 7), I could shrink partitions. > > I recently found the Open Virtual Machine Tools at: > http://open-vm-tools.sourceforge.net > <http://open-vm-tools.sourceforge.net/> > > Hurray for this project and hard work! Glad you've found the open-vm-tools helpful. > Question: > > Does Shrink work using the Open Virtual Machine Tools? > > If so, does anyone have it running in FreeBSD 7? Partition shrinking should definitely work with the open-vm-tools just as well as with the regular VMware Tools. That said, our support for FreeBSD 7 guests is very new, and it's possible that shrinking is broken (maybe the default filesystem used in FreeBSD 7 is different than in FreeBSD 6 and it's one we don't recognize). If you're familiar with C and UNIX programming, you could attach gdb to the toolbox and see what's going on. Otherwise, please file a bug so we can track the problem. |
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From: Adar D. <ad...@vm...> - 2008-06-05 09:19:07
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> -----Original Message----- > From: Cra...@Mc... [mailto:Cra...@Mc...] > Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2008 1:57 AM > To: ope...@li... > Subject: GTK > > > Hi, > > I am building open-vm-tools without X, but the configure > script still insists on checking for GTK. How do I withhold > the GTK dependency, or furthermore stop vmware-user from > being compiled (since our platform does not have a user > interface, so these features will not be required). > > Regards > Craig Phillips > ___________________________ > > Picture (Metafile) > Cra...@Mc... > ___________________________ > > ________________________________ > > McAfee International Limited is registered in England and > Wales with its registered address at 100 New Bridge Street, > London, Company No. 02825890 (Craig, you'll need to subscribe to the list to avoid getting a bounce; we block anonymous e-mails to reduce spam) The "--without-x" configure option should prevent any GTK lookups as well. That said, I'm rather confused when I look at configure.ac's logic for disabling X11. According to the autoconf manual, AC_PATH_XTRA will set $no_x to 'yes' if --without-x was passed, or if configure isn't able to find X. Otherwise $no_x will be an empty string. Yet in configure.ac, we're relying on $have_x and not $no_x, and I couldn't find any documentation that points at the $have_x shell variable. In any case, you may want to try "--without-x" (if you haven't already), and if that doesn't work, maybe "--without-x=yes" or "--without-x=disabled" will do the trick. Elliot is more familiar with autoconf than I, so he may know what's going on. |
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From: Elliot L. <el...@vm...> - 2008-06-03 19:51:52
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Hi all, By way of introduction, Ghais is the guy who just finished fixing up 'make install'. He's working on the command line tool as part of his internship this summer. Please give feedback on his proposal so he can have all your ideas accounted for before he starts implementing it. Best, -- Elliot On 6/3/08 12:32 PM, "Ghais Issa" <gi...@vm...> wrote: Hello, The vmware-toolbox utility is GUI based application that comes with open-vmtools that provides several useful functionalities, such as Time Sync, Disk Shrink, APM scripts, and Device control. The community around open-vm-tools and several customers have demonstrated a need for a scriptable command line equivalent to the vmware-toolbox application. |
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From: Adar D. <ad...@vm...> - 2008-05-21 09:05:21
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(your message bounced because your screenshots were too large) > i had sucessfully build the tools and running the guestd on system > startup. but unfortunately the vmware player shows me the dialogs on > startup you can shown the screenshots, they are attached. > > i have placed the provided vmware-tools config here: > === 8< === > /etc/vmware-tools/: > insgesamt 34 > drwxr-xr-x 6 root root 168 13. Mai 11:11 . > drwxr-xr-x 74 root root 6448 21. Mai 09:12 .. > drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 80 13. Mai 11:11 common > -r--r--r-- 1 root root 26425 13. Mai 11:11 COPYING > drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 208 13. Mai 11:11 freebsd > drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 208 13. Mai 11:11 linux > drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 208 13. Mai 11:11 solaris > > /etc/vmware-tools/common: > insgesamt 8 > drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 80 13. Mai 11:11 . > drwxr-xr-x 6 root root 168 13. Mai 11:11 .. > -r--r--r-- 1 root root 7452 13. Mai 11:11 vm-support > > /etc/vmware-tools/freebsd: > insgesamt 16 > drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 208 13. Mai 11:11 . > drwxr-xr-x 6 root root 168 13. Mai 11:11 .. > -r--r--r-- 1 root root 1354 13. Mai 11:11 poweroff-vm-default > -r--r--r-- 1 root root 1353 13. Mai 11:11 poweron-vm-default > -r--r--r-- 1 root root 1393 13. Mai 11:11 resume-vm-default > -r--r--r-- 1 root root 1750 13. Mai 11:11 suspend-vm-default > > /etc/vmware-tools/linux: > insgesamt 16 > drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 208 13. Mai 11:11 . > drwxr-xr-x 6 root root 168 13. Mai 11:11 .. > -r--r--r-- 1 root root 1351 13. Mai 11:11 poweroff-vm-default > -r--r--r-- 1 root root 1351 13. Mai 11:11 poweron-vm-default > -r--r--r-- 1 root root 3042 13. Mai 11:11 resume-vm-default > -r--r--r-- 1 root root 2638 13. Mai 11:11 suspend-vm-default Unfortunately this isn't the correct layout for the scripts. You need to pick the set appropriate for the guest OS you're using (either Linux, FreeBSD, or Solaris), and place all four of the *-vm-default scripts directly in /etc/vmware-tools. That's where guestd expects to find them. Let us know if that doesn't work for you. |
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From: Daniel R. <dr...@br...> - 2008-05-21 08:48:04
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Hello, i had sucessfully build the tools and running the guestd on system startup. but unfortunately the vmware player shows me the dialogs on startup you can shown the screenshots, they are attached. i have placed the provided vmware-tools config here: === 8< === /etc/vmware-tools/: insgesamt 34 drwxr-xr-x 6 root root 168 13. Mai 11:11 . drwxr-xr-x 74 root root 6448 21. Mai 09:12 .. drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 80 13. Mai 11:11 common -r--r--r-- 1 root root 26425 13. Mai 11:11 COPYING drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 208 13. Mai 11:11 freebsd drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 208 13. Mai 11:11 linux drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 208 13. Mai 11:11 solaris /etc/vmware-tools/common: insgesamt 8 drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 80 13. Mai 11:11 . drwxr-xr-x 6 root root 168 13. Mai 11:11 .. -r--r--r-- 1 root root 7452 13. Mai 11:11 vm-support /etc/vmware-tools/freebsd: insgesamt 16 drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 208 13. Mai 11:11 . drwxr-xr-x 6 root root 168 13. Mai 11:11 .. -r--r--r-- 1 root root 1354 13. Mai 11:11 poweroff-vm-default -r--r--r-- 1 root root 1353 13. Mai 11:11 poweron-vm-default -r--r--r-- 1 root root 1393 13. Mai 11:11 resume-vm-default -r--r--r-- 1 root root 1750 13. Mai 11:11 suspend-vm-default /etc/vmware-tools/linux: insgesamt 16 drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 208 13. Mai 11:11 . drwxr-xr-x 6 root root 168 13. Mai 11:11 .. -r--r--r-- 1 root root 1351 13. Mai 11:11 poweroff-vm-default -r--r--r-- 1 root root 1351 13. Mai 11:11 poweron-vm-default -r--r--r-- 1 root root 3042 13. Mai 11:11 resume-vm-default -r--r--r-- 1 root root 2638 13. Mai 11:11 suspend-vm-default /etc/vmware-tools/solaris: insgesamt 16 drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 208 13. Mai 11:11 . drwxr-xr-x 6 root root 168 13. Mai 11:11 .. -r--r--r-- 1 root root 1354 13. Mai 11:11 poweroff-vm-default -r--r--r-- 1 root root 1353 13. Mai 11:11 poweron-vm-default -r--r--r-- 1 root root 1553 13. Mai 11:11 resume-vm-default -r--r--r-- 1 root root 1904 13. Mai 11:11 suspend-vm-default === 8< === all files are unmodificated. so i dunno why it doesnt work. thanks for all suggestions to avoid this error message. - Daniel |
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From: Adar D. <ad...@vm...> - 2008-05-09 05:15:16
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(your mail didn't reach the mailing list because you weren't subscribed, sorry!) The open-vm-tools git tree represents a development snapshot of our internal source tree. The support is provided exclusively by the community - on the mailing lists and the bug tracker. VMware's "official" support channels will not be able to support these bits, at least as of now. The Tools you receive with VMware products undergo stringent QA and will be supported according to the support terms of the VMware product with which they are associated. > -----Original Message----- > From: br...@gm... [mailto:br...@gm...] On Behalf > Of Dmitriy > Sent: Saturday, May 03, 2008 6:49 PM > To: ope...@li... > Subject: Difference between open and commercial vm-tools? > > What is the difference between open vmware tools I can get > here and the commercial version which comes from vmware? > > thanks > Dmitriy > > |
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From: Adar D. <ad...@vm...> - 2008-05-01 08:21:31
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I noticed that the packaging guidelines section of the wiki was a little stale (it didn't mention vmsync), so I updated it. If you're maintaining an open-vm-tools package or looking to author one for your favorite distro, these guidelines are a valuable resource. And please, please, please give us any feedback you might have, so that we can improve the documentation. http://open-vm-tools.wiki.sourceforge.net/Packaging |
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From: Denis L. <de...@po...> - 2008-01-30 12:14:45
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Elliot Lee wrote: > Woo cool. A --rebuild in my Fedora8 VM worked perfectly. I'm about to upload > a new open-vm-tools version to sourceforge - it won't fix the 2.6.24 lockups, > but it should have fixes for pretty much everything else that's out there. http://www.poolshark.org/src/dkms-open-vm-tools-0-1.2008.01.23.fc8.src.rpm Actually it fixed the lockup for me with Fedora rawhide. Also, could you guys provide an icon for the toolbox desktop entry ? |
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From: Elliot L. <el...@vm...> - 2008-01-30 04:13:10
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Woo cool. A --rebuild in my Fedora8 VM worked perfectly. I'm about to = upload a new open-vm-tools version to sourceforge - it won't fix the 2.6.24 = lockups, but it should have fixes for pretty much everything else that's out = there. Best, -- Elliot -----Original Message----- From: ope...@li... on behalf of = Denis Leroy Sent: Tue 1/29/2008 7:42 AM To: ope...@li...; ope...@li... Subject: [open-vm-tools-discuss] dkms-based RPM available =20 I've been working on a DKMS-based RPM for open-vm-tools so here's a=20 first version of it. Feedback welcome. This was written for Fedora=20 (tested on 7, 8 and rawhide), but porting to other rpm-based distros=20 shouldn't be too much work (if any at all). http://www.poolshark.org/src/dkms-open-vm-tools-0-1.2007.11.21.fc8.src.rp= m -denis -------------------------------------------------------------------------= This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse0120000070mrt/direct/01/ _______________________________________________ open-vm-tools-discuss mailing list ope...@li... https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/open-vm-tools-discuss |
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From: Denis L. <de...@po...> - 2008-01-29 15:42:46
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I've been working on a DKMS-based RPM for open-vm-tools so here's a first version of it. Feedback welcome. This was written for Fedora (tested on 7, 8 and rawhide), but porting to other rpm-based distros shouldn't be too much work (if any at all). http://www.poolshark.org/src/dkms-open-vm-tools-0-1.2007.11.21.fc8.src.rpm -denis |
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From: Joshua D. F. <jdf...@gm...> - 2008-01-11 20:56:48
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On Jan 10, 2008 5:18 PM, Elliot Lee wrote: > From looking at vm_tools_version.h, it looks like the way to get the 'out of > date' message with open-vm-tools-2007.11.21-64693 is to be running it under > either VMware Fusion 1.1, or Vmware Server 2.0 beta1. That's because Fusion > 1.1 expects tools version 7.6.2, Server 2.0 beta1 expects tools version > 7.7.0, and the latest open-vm-tools release reports itself as 7.6.1. As new > Vmware products come out, they will also complain. The next open-vm-tools > release will report itself as at least 7.7.0, if not higher. Thanks for the very informative email. I am running under VMWare Fusion 1.1. |
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From: Elliot L. <el...@vm...> - 2008-01-11 01:18:25
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On 1/2/08 9:24 AM, "Joshua Daniel Franklin" <jdf...@gm...> wrote:
> One question, is the "VMWare Tools is out of date" message
> a necessary side effect of not using the bundled tools? Is
> there a way to point VMWare at the sourceforge project for
> checking this?
Hey Josh,
Good question... No, it's not a necessary side effect, although it can be a
little annoying. Basically, each tools release (whether open-vm-tools, or a
VMwareTools binary-only release) defines the TOOLS_VERSION_CURRENT macro in
vm_tools_version.h. This is an "internal version number" which is passed to
Vmware Workstation, Fusion, and the like to help them figure out whether the
tools are in fact out of date... Each Workstation, Fusion, etc. release has
its own idea of what the tools version should be, and complains if the
actual tools version is lower than that.
>From looking at vm_tools_version.h, it looks like the way to get the 'out of
date' message with open-vm-tools-2007.11.21-64693 is to be running it under
either VMware Fusion 1.1, or Vmware Server 2.0 beta1. That's because Fusion
1.1 expects tools version 7.6.2, Server 2.0 beta1 expects tools version
7.7.0, and the latest open-vm-tools release reports itself as 7.6.1. As new
Vmware products come out, they will also complain. The next open-vm-tools
release will report itself as at least 7.7.0, if not higher.
This TOOLS_VERSION_CURRENT version number is just used to track the
up-to-datedness of the tools running inside the guest OS, so please don't
read any additional meaning into it as far as the functionality of the tools
goes.
If the message really drives you crazy, you could add the line:
tools.statusMsgs.disable = "true"
to the .vmx file for the virtual machine in question, and the host UI will
no longer give you any warnings about the tools. (See
http://sanbarrow.com/vmx/vmx-advanced.html for a full list of VMX file
parameters.)
Otherwise, wait for the next open-vm-tools release and update to that when
it comes out!
Best,
-- Elliot
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From: Elliot L. <el...@vm...> - 2008-01-10 21:56:30
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Hi all, If any of you are NetBSD users, I just ran across http://pkgsrc.se/sysutils/open-vm-tools which looks like a set of NetBSD packages... FYI, -- Elliot |
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From: Joshua D. F. <jdf...@gm...> - 2008-01-02 17:24:45
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Hello, Thanks for the open-vm-tools project, I really prefer this to needing a development environment and kernel headers on a VM just to be able to build the VMWare tools. One question, is the "VMWare Tools is out of date" message a necessary side effect of not using the bundled tools? Is there a way to point VMWare at the sourceforge project for checking this? Thanks. |
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From: Elliot L. <el...@vm...> - 2007-10-30 18:30:46
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On 10/30/07 7:02 AM, "Sanford Armstrong" <san...@gm...> wrote: > Hi there, > > I'm trying to set up a nice Ubuntu 7.10 (Gutsy) guest in Fusion, but > the provided VMware Tools don't work correctly. According to the > VMware forums, the problems may have been fixed in open-vm-tools. > > I got the latest code from SVN trunk, configured with > --disable-multimon, ran `make modules` and `make`, and now I can't > seem to find the perl script to actually install this stuff. Should I > just use the same perl script provided with the version of VMware > Tools provided by Fusion? Am I going about this whole thing the wrong > way? Hey Sandy, The perl script provided with Vmware Tools just might do the trick. I'd give it a try, anyways :) There's currently no working 'make install' rule for open-vm-tools. The original idea was to have each distribution do the installation as part of their packaging, in a way that best fits the standards of that particular distro. If you think it's important to have a generic 'make install', we can always revisit that area - it's just kind of hard to get things all set up and in the right place when you're dealing with one code base on a wide variety of platforms, each with their own filesystem standard. Best, -- Elliot |
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From: Adam T. <moz...@gm...> - 2007-10-30 14:09:30
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Sadly, when I was working with SuSE, I couldn't find the script either.
Typically it would simply be a make rule (ie make install) but since that
doesn't work correctly (it does'nt install the modules, or, iirc, anything
but the hgfsclient). I ended up writing my own: here is my script
<script>
echo "Running './configure' on open-vm-tools"
./configure
echo "Running 'make' on open-vm-tools"
make
# Clean up things for installing tools
mv vmware-user/vmware-user vmware-user/user
mv vmware-user user
for i in user hgfsclient toolbox; do
echo "Installing vmware-${i}"
mv ${i}/${i} /usr/bin/vmware-${i}
done
for i in guestd checkvm; do
echo "Installing vmware-${i}"
mv ${i}/${i} /usr/sbin/vmware-${i}
done
# Allow you to mount shared folders...
mv hgfsmounter/hgfsmounter /usr/sbin/mount.vmhgfs
chmod u+s /usr/sbin/mount.vmhgfs
# Make and Install the modules
for i in vmblock vmhgfs vmmemctl vmxnet; do
cd modules/linux/${i}
echo "Perfoming 'make' on ${i}"
make
echo "Installing the '${i}' module"
if [ "$i" == "vmxnet" ]
then
mkdir /lib/modules/`uname -r`/net/ &>/dev/null
mv ../${i}.o /lib/modules/`uname -r`/net/${i}.ko
else
mkdir /lib/modules/`uname -r`/openvmtools/ &>/dev/null
mv ../${i}.o /lib/modules/`uname -r`/openvmtools/${i}.ko
fi
done
# This rebuilds the module dependency tree, and allows these modules to be
found...
depmod -a
</script>
On 10/30/07, Sanford Armstrong <san...@gm...> wrote:
>
> Hi there,
>
> I'm trying to set up a nice Ubuntu 7.10 (Gutsy) guest in Fusion, but
> the provided VMware Tools don't work correctly. According to the
> VMware forums, the problems may have been fixed in open-vm-tools.
>
> I got the latest code from SVN trunk, configured with
> --disable-multimon, ran `make modules` and `make`, and now I can't
> seem to find the perl script to actually install this stuff. Should I
> just use the same perl script provided with the version of VMware
> Tools provided by Fusion? Am I going about this whole thing the wrong
> way?
>
> Thanks for any hints,
> Sandy
>
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From: Sanford A. <san...@gm...> - 2007-10-30 14:02:47
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Hi there, I'm trying to set up a nice Ubuntu 7.10 (Gutsy) guest in Fusion, but the provided VMware Tools don't work correctly. According to the VMware forums, the problems may have been fixed in open-vm-tools. I got the latest code from SVN trunk, configured with --disable-multimon, ran `make modules` and `make`, and now I can't seem to find the perl script to actually install this stuff. Should I just use the same perl script provided with the version of VMware Tools provided by Fusion? Am I going about this whole thing the wrong way? Thanks for any hints, Sandy |
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From: Adam T. <moz...@gm...> - 2007-10-23 17:00:10
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I have been experimenting with VMware Workstation 6, and VMware Server 1.0.4, and I have noticed a couple of issues with Mouse Capture. It seems that, with IceWM, VMware's ability to "grab" and "un-grab" windows is non-existent. On these same virtual machines, (running openSuSE and Gentoo) both KDE and Xfce are able to perform these functions. I was wondering what the requirements were for a Window Manager to make use of these functions, and why IceWM (possibly others) don't work as expected. Thanks for your time, Adam Tygart |
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From: Elliot L. <el...@vm...> - 2007-10-01 22:20:36
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Hi all, Now that the code has been out for a little while, and the initial excitement has died down, I wanted to start a discussion to find out what everyone's impressions had been so far, and what you wanted out of the project. If you are looking to get involved, please don't hesitate to speak up. Here are some specific things I know can use some work: . Code review . Every check-in inside VMware gets reviewed, and it'd be great to be able to work with the community on doing reviews of the tools. One specific area that could especially use review is the kernel modules - any code in there that you can suggest improvements for? . Implementing a CLI for the tools. Some of this type of work has already been done (see http://chitchat.at.infoseek.co.jp/vmware/ ). . Improved logging. I've heard it mentioned that someone inside VMware had possibly started on integrating log4c into the tools, so ask for more details if you're interested. . Ports to new OS's . FreeBSD . Solaris . Your favorite OS FreeBSD & Solaris mainly need kernel module attention. I don't want to discourage people from going ahead and making wonderful things happen here, but at the same time, please be aware that there are other efforts going on here, so speak up if you're interested. . Making the tools work with qemu, KVM, etc. Anthony Liguori . Packaging on OS's where the code should already work . Debian . Fedora Talk to Denis Leroy, and see https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=294341 - what's needed for the time being is someone to maintain the package in livna. . Gentoo Talk to Elias Probst, and see http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=192377 . SuSE . Ubuntu See https://launchpad.net/open-vm-tools Of course, if you have your own ideas, bring them on! Best, -- Elliot |
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From: Robert G. <ru...@ut...> - 2007-09-27 05:38:24
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Joseph Liu wrote: > Robert, > > VMware Server does not support hgfs whereas VMware Player 2.0 supports it. Thank you Joseph!! Hopefully they will support it in future. Maybe as an on/off option... Robert > > Cheers, > Joseph > > Robert Gruber <ru...@ut...> wrote: >> Hello! >> >> Can I mount the hostfilesystem from an VMware Server v1.0.3? I tried it >> with hgfsmounter and got the error message: >> >> /var/log/messages: >> kernel: VMware hgfs: HGFS is disabled in the host >> >> Then I tried to set the option "isolation.tools.hgfs.disable" to FALSE but >> it's the same. >> >> Everything else works! >> >> My configuration is: >> Host: SuSE Linux v7.3 >> Guest: openSuSE Linux v10.2 >> >> Robert >> >> >> > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft > Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2005. > http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse0120000070mrt/direct/01/ > _______________________________________________ > open-vm-tools-discuss mailing list > ope...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/open-vm-tools-discuss > > |
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From: Joseph L. <jo...@vm...> - 2007-09-26 16:44:59
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Robert, VMware Server does not support hgfs whereas VMware Player 2.0 supports it. Cheers, Joseph Robert Gruber <ru...@ut...> wrote: > Hello! > > Can I mount the hostfilesystem from an VMware Server v1.0.3? I tried it > with hgfsmounter and got the error message: > > /var/log/messages: > kernel: VMware hgfs: HGFS is disabled in the host > > Then I tried to set the option "isolation.tools.hgfs.disable" to FALSE but > it's the same. > > Everything else works! > > My configuration is: > Host: SuSE Linux v7.3 > Guest: openSuSE Linux v10.2 > > Robert > > > |
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From: Robert G. <ru...@ut...> - 2007-09-26 12:16:42
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Hello! Can I mount the hostfilesystem from an VMware Server v1.0.3? I tried it with hgfsmounter and got the error message: /var/log/messages: kernel: VMware hgfs: HGFS is disabled in the host Then I tried to set the option "isolation.tools.hgfs.disable" to FALSE but it's the same. Everything else works! My configuration is: Host: SuSE Linux v7.3 Guest: openSuSE Linux v10.2 Robert |
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From: Sanford A. <san...@gm...> - 2007-09-14 03:06:16
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On 9/13/07, Tim Wood <tim...@da...> wrote: > Is there an announcements list for the project? Yes, see the first entry on this page: http://sourceforge.net/mail/?group_id=204462 Best, Sandy |
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From: Tim W. <tim...@da...> - 2007-09-13 21:31:53
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Is there an announcements list for the project? _________________________________ Tim Wood, CLP, RHCT 719.338.7484 (tel) The Data Wranglers Web, Database & more since since 1994 www.datawranglers.com |