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From: Brian R. <rei...@nu...> - 2013-03-07 19:45:30
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I have been poking at open-vm-tools-8.8.2-590212 under CentOS 5.8PAE, and ran into the same initial symptoms as these people: http://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&aid=3570540&group_id=204462&atid=989708 http://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&aid=3452233&group_id=204462&atid=989708 The latter sums it up: "Looks like GRegex introduced in glib2 >= 2.14 while RHEL5 and CentOS 5 use glib2 2.12." Is there an earlier version of open-vm-tools that does not depend on Gregex? -- Brian Reichert <rei...@nu...> BSD admin/developer at large |
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From: Reindl H. <h.r...@th...> - 2013-03-07 19:54:13
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Am 07.03.2013 20:45, schrieb Brian Reichert: > I have been poking at open-vm-tools-8.8.2-590212 under CentOS 5.8PAE, > and ran into the same initial symptoms as these people: > > http://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&aid=3570540&group_id=204462&atid=989708 > > http://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&aid=3452233&group_id=204462&atid=989708 > > The latter sums it up: "Looks like GRegex introduced in glib2 >= > 2.14 while RHEL5 and CentOS 5 use glib2 2.12." > > Is there an earlier version of open-vm-tools that does not depend > on Gregex? for RHEL you find binary RPMS and even yum-repos fro the VMware-Tools http://packages.vmware.com/tools/esx/index.html http://packages.vmware.com/tools/esx/5.0u2/rhel6/x86_64/index.html http://packages.vmware.com/tools/esx/5.0u2/rhel5/x86_64/index.html so no - you do not need open-vm-tools at all it would be much more important to support building them on Fedora 18 without dirty hacks because non LTS distributions are not supported with pre-compiled binaries |
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From: Brian R. <rei...@nu...> - 2013-03-07 20:08:04
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On Thu, Mar 07, 2013 at 08:54:04PM +0100, Reindl Harald wrote: > for RHEL you find binary RPMS and even yum-repos fro the VMware-Tools > > http://packages.vmware.com/tools/esx/index.html > http://packages.vmware.com/tools/esx/5.0u2/rhel6/x86_64/index.html > http://packages.vmware.com/tools/esx/5.0u2/rhel5/x86_64/index.html These are not open source, and there is no corresponding source code available for them. -- Brian Reichert <rei...@nu...> BSD admin/developer at large |
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From: Reindl H. <h.r...@th...> - 2013-03-07 20:17:33
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Am 07.03.2013 21:07, schrieb Brian Reichert: > On Thu, Mar 07, 2013 at 08:54:04PM +0100, Reindl Harald wrote: >> for RHEL you find binary RPMS and even yum-repos fro the VMware-Tools >> >> http://packages.vmware.com/tools/esx/index.html >> http://packages.vmware.com/tools/esx/5.0u2/rhel6/x86_64/index.html >> http://packages.vmware.com/tools/esx/5.0u2/rhel5/x86_64/index.html > > These are not open source, and there is no corresponding source > code available for them so what - your host-OS is also not opensource if you are riding on the "all has to be open source" you must use KVM or such solutions at all - the open-vm tools are mostly for guest systems which are providing recent kernels which does not need most of the kernel-modules and in a short also have vmci/vsock in the upstream kernel saying that: look in the changelog, in a short you can expect that there is no way to install open-vm-tools on kernels of LTS guest systems becuse you will lack many things which are never in RHEL5/6 |
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From: Brian R. <rei...@nu...> - 2013-03-07 20:53:59
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On Thu, Mar 07, 2013 at 09:17:25PM +0100, Reindl Harald wrote: > > > Am 07.03.2013 21:07, schrieb Brian Reichert: > > On Thu, Mar 07, 2013 at 08:54:04PM +0100, Reindl Harald wrote: > >> for RHEL you find binary RPMS and even yum-repos fro the VMware-Tools > >> > >> http://packages.vmware.com/tools/esx/index.html > >> http://packages.vmware.com/tools/esx/5.0u2/rhel6/x86_64/index.html > >> http://packages.vmware.com/tools/esx/5.0u2/rhel5/x86_64/index.html > > > > These are not open source, and there is no corresponding source > > code available for them > > so what - your host-OS is also not opensource For my employer, we have to overcome certain issues to utilize this software, esp as there are no RPMs available from our vendor (CentOS). I don't have to agree with my employer's policies, I'm just suck with them. > saying that: look in the changelog, in a short you can expect > that there is no way to install open-vm-tools on kernels > of LTS guest systems becuse you will lack many things which > are never in RHEL5/6 What does 'LTS' mean in this context? The NEWS file of open-vm-tools spans back to 2007.09.04. RHEL5 was released six months prior, in 2007.3.14. Are you saying that in the last _five years_ no one's successfully built any version of open-vm-rools for RHEL5? -- Brian Reichert <rei...@nu...> BSD admin/developer at large |
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From: Reindl H. <h.r...@th...> - 2013-03-07 21:02:04
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Am 07.03.2013 21:51, schrieb Brian Reichert: >> so what - your host-OS is also not opensource > > For my employer, we have to overcome certain issues to utilize this > software, esp as there are no RPMs available from our vendor (CentOS). your vendor CentOS or RHEL is not responsible for 3rd party software the vendor of your host system is VMware Inc. well, and if you have running ESX with a support contract you can bet taht VMware will tell you if you are in trouble "install the version which matches your current ESXi-host" > I don't have to agree with my employer's policies, I'm just suck > with them. maybe you should explain him technical facts >> saying that: look in the changelog, in a short you can expect >> that there is no way to install open-vm-tools on kernels >> of LTS guest systems becuse you will lack many things which >> are never in RHEL5/6 > > What does 'LTS' mean in this context? Long Term Support? > The NEWS file of open-vm-tools spans back to 2007.09.04. > RHEL5 was released six months prior, in 2007.3.14. which is a long time ago > Are you saying that in the last _five years_ no one's successfully > built any version of open-vm-rools for RHEL5? who knows and who cares since VMware Inc. ships binaries within ESXi and in public repos? open-vm-tools 2010.06.16 changes: * vmmemctl: Linux driver removed (it's now upstream) upstream = linux kernel but not the one for RHEL because it stays on patched old ones |
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From: Brian R. <rei...@nu...> - 2013-03-07 21:37:37
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On Thu, Mar 07, 2013 at 10:01:55PM +0100, Reindl Harald wrote: > > Are you saying that in the last _five years_ no one's successfully > > built any version of open-vm-rools for RHEL5? > > who knows and who cares since VMware Inc. ships binaries > within ESXi and in public repos? The backstory is that we sell a network appliance based on CentOS. More specifically, we provide to the customer an executable that produces an ISO image that can be used to install the appliance's software in a VMware virtual machine. (Yes, that's very convoluted, but this is to address legal issues about software redistribution.) I hoped to include the commercial VMware tools in that ISO image. VMware legal has stated that this is not an approved method of redistribution, and as such, we cannot provide these tools. I turned to the open-source version of VMware tools, and have run into the issues cited in this thread. -- Brian Reichert <rei...@nu...> BSD admin/developer at large |
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From: Brian R. <rei...@nu...> - 2013-03-14 20:46:28
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On Thu, Mar 07, 2013 at 10:01:55PM +0100, Reindl Harald wrote: > > The NEWS file of open-vm-tools spans back to 2007.09.04. > > RHEL5 was released six months prior, in 2007.3.14. > > which is a long time ago > > > Are you saying that in the last _five years_ no one's successfully > > built any version of open-vm-rools for RHEL5? > > who knows and who cares since VMware Inc. ships binaries > within ESXi and in public repos? Well, I've not heard further on this topic. A summary, for the benefit of the email archives: - RHEL5 was released on 2007, and the EOL according to RedHat is now 2017; a proposed lifespan of ten years. - There has been no version of open-vm-rools has even been built for RHEL5, (and by extension, CentOS) and there's no interest on the part of this project to do so. - The RPM packages associated with the commercial release cannot be redistributed. (There are only two I'm interested in, but none of them are available for our use.) So, I'm SOL, it seems. Thanks, everyone, for your feedback on this matter. -- Brian Reichert <rei...@nu...> BSD admin/developer at large |
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From: Dmitry T. <dt...@vm...> - 2013-03-14 20:58:33
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On Thursday, March 14, 2013 04:25:21 PM Brian Reichert wrote: > On Thu, Mar 07, 2013 at 10:01:55PM +0100, Reindl Harald wrote: > > > The NEWS file of open-vm-tools spans back to 2007.09.04. > > > RHEL5 was released six months prior, in 2007.3.14. > > > > which is a long time ago > > > > > Are you saying that in the last _five years_ no one's successfully > > > built any version of open-vm-rools for RHEL5? > > > > who knows and who cares since VMware Inc. ships binaries > > within ESXi and in public repos? > > Well, I've not heard further on this topic. > > A summary, for the benefit of the email archives: > > - RHEL5 was released on 2007, and the EOL according to RedHat is > now 2017; a proposed lifespan of ten years. > > - There has been no version of open-vm-rools has even been built for > RHEL5, (and by extension, CentOS) and there's no interest on the > part of this project to do so. > > - The RPM packages associated with the commercial release cannot be > redistributed. (There are only two I'm interested in, but none > of them are available for our use.) > > So, I'm SOL, it seems. You can always build your own version of glib library and compile against it. This is what we do internally so that tools work with older guests. Thanks, Dmitry |
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From: Brian R. <rei...@nu...> - 2013-03-15 00:15:02
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On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 01:58:26PM -0700, Dmitry Torokhov wrote: > You can always build your own version of glib library and compile against it. > This is what we do internally so that tools work with older guests. Something worth considering. Thanks! > Thanks, > Dmitry -- Brian Reichert <rei...@nu...> BSD admin/developer at large |
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