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[Op-torch-general] Fwd: [Op-torch-devel] Re: offlist thoughts on TORCH
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From: Michael R. <os...@ea...> - 2005-02-22 01:59:10
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Begin forwarded message: > From: Michael Rowley <os...@ea...> > Date: February 21, 2005 8:47:13 PM EST > To: op-...@li..., > op-...@li... > Subject: [Op-torch-devel] Re: offlist thoughts on TORCH > Reply-To: op-...@li... > > Hey Rusty, > > Thanks for checking things out. I am cross posting this to > op-Torch-dev and user, as this is worth the read.... :) > > On Feb 21, 2005, at 2:52 PM, TMaynard wrote: > >> Hello Michael, >> >> I have briefly visited the new test site and I want to thank you >> for keeping Torch 2.0 underway and posting to the rather silent >> community. I appreciate the communication although I have not been >> adding any value of dialogue to the mailing list. >> >> Although inactive now I have to beware of just lurking as an old >> participant in torch 1.x . When I visit the sourceforge resources I >> have to wonder about the reaction of any newcomer. >> >> I believe there is a presentation problem in the documents of the >> "project": >> >> 1. First on the project content: >> The sourceforge home page link http://op-torch.sourceforge.net >> is forwarded to openparadigms.com which is in turn is forwarded to >> www.path.ubc.ca >> >> These subsequent pages confuse a newcomer because the inserted >> "homepage" does not give content about TORCH project. >> What would be better would be a simple holding page describing how >> the new TORCH 2 is currently using the default Plone presentation >> and giving some general examples of how an EMR can exist as a >> collection of document objects within the Plone framework. > > Excellent point. I need to get the pages changes. We have registered > torchmd.org for our use, and are looking into forming a torchmd > foundation. Once the new page is up, we will be changing the link in > source forge. I hope to have this done in the next week or two. > >> 2. Meanwhile the documents that are displayed in Docs pertain to >> older version 1.3 >> http://sourceforge.net/docman/?group_id=70886 >> I think they need more explicit grouping and titles to declare >> that these docs pertain to older version 1.3 which has a more >> specific menu driven presentation. > > I will look into this. The torch 1.3 docs will need to be archived. > I have no input into 1.3, and am not working on it at all. Tim had > said at one time that he was going to be working on T1.3 to fix bugs, > and add some features. I don't know if he has had time for this, but > as T1.3 actually has users, I think this is a good thing. We will > eventually need to get the migration path set, so I will need to learn > some 1.3 I suppose. Have my own dragons to slay right now. > >> I realize that the presentation of an EMR using Plone default >> presentation is the analogous problem for the actual application >> usage, but the questions above are just aimed at better presentation >> for the project rather than the software application. >> I have my own problems and doubts about navigating Plone menus to >> reach objects which comprise an EMR, but that deserves another >> email thread. I have no doubts that the tools for managing objects >> and their metadata exist in Plone, but (it seems to me) the outermost >> presentation layers of Plone are a barrier to participants who would >> otherwise be attending to presentation debate down in the deeper >> layers. > > I am in 100% agreement, and we have essentially abandoned the plone > default views, and L&F. I do not think they are conducive to > productivity in a system that will be almost as much content editing, > as presentation. It is hard to see right now on the demo site, but we > are working on it. We are currently getting our roles/workflow > functional. It is the next major step, and then I think the EMR > portion will become useable. From there it will be fine tuning. :) > >> Thanks, Rusty Maynard > > Rusty, I am glad you are still lurking, and your input is always > welcome :) I will let you know when I get these fixed... > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > SF email is sponsored by - The IT Product Guide > Read honest & candid reviews on hundreds of IT Products from real > users. > Discover which products truly live up to the hype. Start reading now. > http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=6595&alloc_id=14396&op=click > ************************************************** > TORCH is supported by the open source community and by Open > Paradigms,LLC http://www.openparadigms.com > You can donate at http://www.openparadigms.com/donations > ______________________________________________ > Op-torch-devel mailing list > Op-...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/op-torch-devel > |
