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Re: [Om-2-6-users] Simple OpenMosix progress

[Niels de V. <nix...@us...>]

Hi Matthew,

On Fri, Jul 25, 2008 at 6:09 PM, Matthew Golabiewski
<mat...@ya...> wrote:
> What type of progress needs to be done before we see some packages uploaded on sourceforge? It's been one year and nothing has been released as of yet on sourceforge.
> Is this project dead like openmosix?

I think this project also didn't survive. Please have a look at
another incarnation at http://linuxpmi.org/. There are only a few
people working on it, so progress is very slow. First steps seem to be
collecting and sorting already created code. Documenting and cleaning
up is badly needed and therefor this is done before any development is
taken on.

Cheers, Niels

[Om-2-6-users] Simple OpenMosix progress

[Matthew G. <mat...@ya...>]

What type of progress needs to be done before we see some packages uploaded on sourceforge? It's been one year and nothing has been released as of yet on sourceforge.
Is this project dead like openmosix?


      

Re: [Om-2-6-users] Still Alive!

[<ju...@so...>]

On Thu, Jun 05, 2008 at 11:52:34AM -0400, ju...@so... wrote:
> On Thu, Jun 05, 2008 at 03:06:10PM +0200, Niels de Vos wrote:
> > Hi Juri,
> > 
> > watching your 'progress' on irc.freenode.net#openmosix ;)
> > Unfortunately I don't have time to get into the dark grounds of the
> > om-kernel stuff. However I'm interrested in your procedings. I'm also
> > willing to read your commented patches, but don't know how to comment
> > your comments...
> > 
> 
> theres no simple way to comment on the commentary, other than opening a text file of some sort. this wiki's trac, not mediawiki.
> 
> that said, i'd love a commentary on my commentary.at this point, i'm pretty happy with my style, but i'd love someone to do fact-checking on my assumptions.
> 
> > As soon as there is something testable, I'll try my user-space tools
> > on it. They are available on the archives in this list. If it's
> > possible/helpful, maybe you want to put them in a SVN on your side?
> > 
> 
> as long as this list's archive exists, i'm not too worried about it. it will be a bit before we start fixing the bugs in this tree.
> 
> > Take care,
> > Niels
> > 
> > PS: Don't know how many users are on this list, but I didn't get any
> > messages for some months. Has this reincarnation of OM failed!?
> 
> this project ported to 2.6.22. when my project is done documenting the 2.6.17, we'll be looking at the work done here, so "not all is lost". :)
> 
> Julia Longtin <ju...@so...>
> 

Niels,

We've recently set up an anonymous git tree, so individuals like yourself can correct my work, and mail around patches. if you're still interested in helping with the code commentary, grab a 
copy of the anongit tree, and pop onto the mailing list!

Julia Longtin <ju...@so...>

Re: [Om-2-6-users] Still Alive!

[<ju...@so...>]

On Thu, Jun 05, 2008 at 03:06:10PM +0200, Niels de Vos wrote:
> Hi Juri,
> 
> watching your 'progress' on irc.freenode.net#openmosix ;)
> Unfortunately I don't have time to get into the dark grounds of the
> om-kernel stuff. However I'm interrested in your procedings. I'm also
> willing to read your commented patches, but don't know how to comment
> your comments...
> 

theres no simple way to comment on the commentary, other than opening a text file of some sort. this wiki's trac, not mediawiki.

that said, i'd love a commentary on my commentary.at this point, i'm pretty happy with my style, but i'd love someone to do fact-checking on my assumptions.

> As soon as there is something testable, I'll try my user-space tools
> on it. They are available on the archives in this list. If it's
> possible/helpful, maybe you want to put them in a SVN on your side?
> 

as long as this list's archive exists, i'm not too worried about it. it will be a bit before we start fixing the bugs in this tree.

> Take care,
> Niels
> 
> PS: Don't know how many users are on this list, but I didn't get any
> messages for some months. Has this reincarnation of OM failed!?

this project ported to 2.6.22. when my project is done documenting the 2.6.17, we'll be looking at the work done here, so "not all is lost". :)

Julia Longtin <ju...@so...>

Re: [Om-2-6-users] Still Alive!

[Niels de V. <nix...@us...>]

Hi Juri,

watching your 'progress' on irc.freenode.net#openmosix ;)
Unfortunately I don't have time to get into the dark grounds of the
om-kernel stuff. However I'm interrested in your procedings. I'm also
willing to read your commented patches, but don't know how to comment
your comments...

As soon as there is something testable, I'll try my user-space tools
on it. They are available on the archives in this list. If it's
possible/helpful, maybe you want to put them in a SVN on your side?

Take care,
Niels

PS: Don't know how many users are on this list, but I didn't get any
messages for some months. Has this reincarnation of OM failed!?

On Wed, Jun 4, 2008 at 6:40 PM,  <ju...@so...> wrote:
> Hi! The Code once Known As Openmosix still lives, at linuxpmi.org .
>
> We're currently working on documenting the 2.6.17 based code. there are few of us, but i'm hoping some of you are willing to pitch in.
>
> "you just keep on trying until you run out of cake."
>
> Julia Longtin <ju...@so...>
>
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[Om-2-6-users] Still Alive!

[<ju...@so...>]

Hi! The Code once Known As Openmosix still lives, at linuxpmi.org .

We're currently working on documenting the 2.6.17 based code. there are few of us, but i'm hoping some of you are willing to pitch in.

"you just keep on trying until you run out of cake."

Julia Longtin <ju...@so...>

Re: [Om-2-6-users] Openmosix 2.6.22 project still continuing

[Brad H. <br...@ha...>]

>We are also looking to rename the product/project - so name 
suggestions are
>welcome. I have already had some good ideas proposed but we can use 
some
>more. Moshe suggested rebranding and Florian and I agree entirely 
that a new
>name will convey that 2.6 is different than the project objectives of 
2.4,
>and has been significantly rethought in light of the changes in 
market needs
>and hardware architectures.

Hi, I guess I'm new to the openMosix community. Looking around I found 
openMosix via Google, was reading about the work being done to update 
to 2.6 and then saw the shutdown press release on the main openMosix 
site. I'm in agreement that since openMosix has publicly declared 
they're closing doors that it would only make sense to rebrand this 
current work to avoid confusion. My suggestion for rebranding would be 
"freeMosix" or "fMosix" for short. It keeps true to the previous 
naming, yet differentiates itself from the other. I noticed you're 
using the name simple openMosix atm. Simple might send the wrong idea 
to new people. Maybe use Easy instead, as in "easyMosix" or "eMosix" 
for short. Thanks for listening to the pondering of a new person to 
this stuff. ;)

-BHawthorne

Re: [Om-2-6-users] [Openmosix-Devel] [openMosix-general] Openmosix 2.6.22 project still continuing

[Wes W. <wes...@gm...>]

Julia,

That would be great if you could host it and potentially someone else could
pair it up by donating another box. Would you be at all inclined in managing
it from the standpoint of checking it out to openmosix developers for a few
days at a time so they can use it without trampling on each other? An 8 way
box like that would extremely useful to anyone working on validating and
making sure the OM code is SMP safe.

-Wes


On 8/13/07, ri...@vo... <ri...@vo...> wrote:
>
> On Mon, Aug 13, 2007 at 12:28:41PM -0700, Wes Wagner wrote:
> > I have lab space (HVAC + 240V power)  that is SSH accessable in my home
> but
> > that would be a beast... I don't know that we need quite that much
> > horsepower for testing. My lab only has 30 amps of 240 so i try to keep
> most
> > my machine below a half amp of power :)
> >
> > Anyone have any ideas?
> >
> > -Wes
> >
> >
> > On 8/13/07, br...@ca... <br...@ca...> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > I have a Dell 8450 8 processor x86 system that I would be happy to
> > > donate.  Unfortunately, it's currently  in the United States.  It's
> very
> > > heavy and would cost a small fortune to ship.  I'm open to
> suggestions...
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Bruce Kissinger
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Fri, 10 Aug 2007 10:10:49 -0700, "Wes Wagner" <wes...@gm...
> >
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > The openmosix 2.6 project is getting new steam. There have been 2
> $100
> > >
> > > > pledges to distribute to the coder(s) (right now it is really just
> > > Florian
> > >
> > > > for the real kernel work) when the successful alpha comes out. Other
> > > items
> > >
> > > > that could help the project is amd64 and i386 test equipment, (procs
> and
> > >
> > > > mbs), for Florian to use in testing. If you have some beat up old
> > >
> > > > equipment
> > >
> > > > that works but you don't need and live in Europe so you can ship it
> > > cheap,
> > >
> > > > please consider donating it to the project.
> > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > > By the end of the weekend we should have everything together enough
> that
> > >
> > > > we
> > >
> > > > can start accepting work from other developers. We have been working
> on
> > >
> > > > the
> > >
> > > > infrastructure needed to support collaboration without anyone
> stepping
> > > on
> > >
> > > > each other's toes.
> > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > > We are also looking to rename the product/project - so name
> suggestions
> > >
> > > > are
> > >
> > > > welcome. I have already had some good ideas proposed but we can use
> some
> > >
> > > > more. Moshe suggested rebranding and Florian and I agree entirely
> that a
> > >
> > > > new
> > >
> > > > name will convey that 2.6 is different than the project objectives
> of
> > > 2.4,
> > >
> > > > and has been significantly rethought in light of the changes in
> market
> > >
> > > > needs
> > >
> > > > and hardware architectures.
> > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Wes Wagner
>
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> some quick googling shows the dell 8450 is a 7U machine. not bad.
>
> where in the US is it located?
>
> i can offer some space in a financial institution's rack. however, i'm
> located in arkansas.
>
> Julia Longtin <ri...@vo...>
>



-- 
Wes Wagner

Re: [Om-2-6-users] [Openmosix-Devel] [openMosix-general] Openmosix 2.6.22 project still continuing

[<ri...@vo...>]

On Mon, Aug 13, 2007 at 12:28:41PM -0700, Wes Wagner wrote:
> I have lab space (HVAC + 240V power)  that is SSH accessable in my home but
> that would be a beast... I don't know that we need quite that much
> horsepower for testing. My lab only has 30 amps of 240 so i try to keep most
> my machine below a half amp of power :)
> 
> Anyone have any ideas?
> 
> -Wes
> 
> 
> On 8/13/07, br...@ca... <br...@ca...> wrote:
> >
> >
> > I have a Dell 8450 8 processor x86 system that I would be happy to
> > donate.  Unfortunately, it's currently  in the United States.  It's very
> > heavy and would cost a small fortune to ship.  I'm open to suggestions...
> >
> >
> >
> > Bruce Kissinger
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Fri, 10 Aug 2007 10:10:49 -0700, "Wes Wagner" <wes...@gm...>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > The openmosix 2.6 project is getting new steam. There have been 2 $100
> >
> > > pledges to distribute to the coder(s) (right now it is really just
> > Florian
> >
> > > for the real kernel work) when the successful alpha comes out. Other
> > items
> >
> > > that could help the project is amd64 and i386 test equipment, (procs and
> >
> > > mbs), for Florian to use in testing. If you have some beat up old
> >
> > > equipment
> >
> > > that works but you don't need and live in Europe so you can ship it
> > cheap,
> >
> > > please consider donating it to the project.
> >
> > >
> >
> > > By the end of the weekend we should have everything together enough that
> >
> > > we
> >
> > > can start accepting work from other developers. We have been working on
> >
> > > the
> >
> > > infrastructure needed to support collaboration without anyone stepping
> > on
> >
> > > each other's toes.
> >
> > >
> >
> > > We are also looking to rename the product/project - so name suggestions
> >
> > > are
> >
> > > welcome. I have already had some good ideas proposed but we can use some
> >
> > > more. Moshe suggested rebranding and Florian and I agree entirely that a
> >
> > > new
> >
> > > name will convey that 2.6 is different than the project objectives of
> > 2.4,
> >
> > > and has been significantly rethought in light of the changes in market
> >
> > > needs
> >
> > > and hardware architectures.
> >
> > >
> >
> > >
> >
> >
> 
> 
> -- 
> Wes Wagner

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some quick googling shows the dell 8450 is a 7U machine. not bad.

where in the US is it located?

i can offer some space in a financial institution's rack. however, i'm located in arkansas.

Julia Longtin <ri...@vo...>

Re: [Om-2-6-users] [openMosix-general] Openmosix 2.6.22 project still continuing

[Wes W. <wes...@gm...>]

I have lab space (HVAC + 240V power)  that is SSH accessable in my home but
that would be a beast... I don't know that we need quite that much
horsepower for testing. My lab only has 30 amps of 240 so i try to keep most
my machine below a half amp of power :)

Anyone have any ideas?

-Wes


On 8/13/07, br...@ca... <br...@ca...> wrote:
>
>
> I have a Dell 8450 8 processor x86 system that I would be happy to
> donate.  Unfortunately, it's currently  in the United States.  It's very
> heavy and would cost a small fortune to ship.  I'm open to suggestions...
>
>
>
> Bruce Kissinger
>
>
>
>
>
> On Fri, 10 Aug 2007 10:10:49 -0700, "Wes Wagner" <wes...@gm...>
> wrote:
>
> > The openmosix 2.6 project is getting new steam. There have been 2 $100
>
> > pledges to distribute to the coder(s) (right now it is really just
> Florian
>
> > for the real kernel work) when the successful alpha comes out. Other
> items
>
> > that could help the project is amd64 and i386 test equipment, (procs and
>
> > mbs), for Florian to use in testing. If you have some beat up old
>
> > equipment
>
> > that works but you don't need and live in Europe so you can ship it
> cheap,
>
> > please consider donating it to the project.
>
> >
>
> > By the end of the weekend we should have everything together enough that
>
> > we
>
> > can start accepting work from other developers. We have been working on
>
> > the
>
> > infrastructure needed to support collaboration without anyone stepping
> on
>
> > each other's toes.
>
> >
>
> > We are also looking to rename the product/project - so name suggestions
>
> > are
>
> > welcome. I have already had some good ideas proposed but we can use some
>
> > more. Moshe suggested rebranding and Florian and I agree entirely that a
>
> > new
>
> > name will convey that 2.6 is different than the project objectives of
> 2.4,
>
> > and has been significantly rethought in light of the changes in market
>
> > needs
>
> > and hardware architectures.
>
> >
>
> >
>
>


-- 
Wes Wagner

Re: [Om-2-6-users] [Openmosix-Devel] Openmosix 2.6.22 project still continuing

[<ta...@sn...>]

On Fri, Aug 10, 2007 at 10:10:49AM -0700, Wes Wagner wrote:
> We are also looking to rename the product/project - so name suggestions are
> welcome. I have already had some good ideas proposed but we can use some
> more. Moshe suggested rebranding and Florian and I agree entirely that a new
> name will convey that 2.6 is different than the project objectives of 2.4,

That is a good idea, and not only that, but I think a new
name/rebranding/separating from here/.. is totally *mandatory* for
creating a new wave of interested/curious people.

Cheers,
-- 
Vincent Hanquez

Re: [Om-2-6-users] Openmosix 2.6.22 project still continuing

[Jonathan D. <im...@ya...>]

In light of, ummmm, some of the more lively? responses
to my posts from earlier, it would be good if we could
work on agreeing a summary of objectives for the
rebranded project.

I'm assuming the shift in user needs will mean that we
add functionality previously considered unnecessary
for a load-balancing system specific to CPU loads.
However, I don't want to get into religious wars over
what should or should not be part of the rebranded
work. I'd much prefer an agreed-upon list of what
users need that we can provide.

I know for a fact that HPC users are positively
screaming for better network support. Cascading
failures and network meltdowns are big issues. I also
know for a fact that the Data Center market is
increasingly unhappy with solutions that have any
single point of failure whatsoever. But are these the
users we are going to be concerned with?

I'll see what non-ix86 hardware I can find, to see how
easy it would be to whip up an experimental (ie: not
in the mainstream OM) port to other platforms, in
addition to whatever projects I already have simmering
that are candidates for putting into the extra
projects.

Since the absolute core code wants to be as
lightweight as possible - for maximum performance,
minimum bugs, etc, it makes little sense to merge
anything not absolutely critical or universal into the
core code, allowing for inevitable special cases and
exceptions.

Since the core shouldn't care one whit about how data
actually arrives or departs, only that it does so in
the times and places expected, I honestly can't think
of any projects of mine - however controversial - that
would have any need or business being in core.

Jonathan

--- Wes Wagner <wes...@gm...> wrote:

> The openmosix 2.6 project is getting new steam.
> There have been 2 $100
> pledges to distribute to the coder(s) (right now it
> is really just Florian
> for the real kernel work) when the successful alpha
> comes out. Other items
> that could help the project is amd64 and i386 test
> equipment, (procs and
> mbs), for Florian to use in testing. If you have
> some beat up old equipment
> that works but you don't need and live in Europe so
> you can ship it cheap,
> please consider donating it to the project.
> 
> By the end of the weekend we should have everything
> together enough that we
> can start accepting work from other developers. We
> have been working on the
> infrastructure needed to support collaboration
> without anyone stepping on
> each other's toes.
> 
> We are also looking to rename the product/project -
> so name suggestions are
> welcome. I have already had some good ideas proposed
> but we can use some
> more. Moshe suggested rebranding and Florian and I
> agree entirely that a new
> name will convey that 2.6 is different than the
> project objectives of 2.4,
> and has been significantly rethought in light of the
> changes in market needs
> and hardware architectures.
> 
> -- 
> Wes Wagner
> >
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[Om-2-6-users] Openmosix 2.6.22 project still continuing

[Wes W. <wes...@gm...>]

The openmosix 2.6 project is getting new steam. There have been 2 $100
pledges to distribute to the coder(s) (right now it is really just Florian
for the real kernel work) when the successful alpha comes out. Other items
that could help the project is amd64 and i386 test equipment, (procs and
mbs), for Florian to use in testing. If you have some beat up old equipment
that works but you don't need and live in Europe so you can ship it cheap,
please consider donating it to the project.

By the end of the weekend we should have everything together enough that we
can start accepting work from other developers. We have been working on the
infrastructure needed to support collaboration without anyone stepping on
each other's toes.

We are also looking to rename the product/project - so name suggestions are
welcome. I have already had some good ideas proposed but we can use some
more. Moshe suggested rebranding and Florian and I agree entirely that a new
name will convey that 2.6 is different than the project objectives of 2.4,
and has been significantly rethought in light of the changes in market needs
and hardware architectures.

-- 
Wes Wagner

[Om-2-6-users] 2.6 Kernel patches for simple open mosix available

[Wes W. <wes...@gm...>]

The 2.6.22 kernel patches for simple open mosix are now available. By the
end of the weekend the SVN should also contain the scripts you need to make
it easier, but if you are very eager, the source is there now.

https://sourceforge.net/projects/om-2-6

The simple openmosix project only supports i386 and x86_64 at this time, and
you will want to download and use omuscd as well as a simple cluster daemon.

https://sourceforge.net/projects/omuscd

-- 
Wes Wagner

-- 
Wes Wagner