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[OctDev] removing java package from SVN tree

[Carnë D. <car...@gm...>]

Hi everyone

the java package as been moved to Octave core (see
http://hg.savannah.gnu.org/hgweb/octave/rev/acf0addfc610). I want to
remove the package from the SVN tree to prevent accidental branching
of its development.

I will keep the tarball in the servers available for download and
install, even after the release of whatever Octave version includes
it.

Carnë

Re: [OctDev] removing java package from SVN tree

[Martin H. <ma...@nu...>]

Am 23.11.2012 21:52, schrieb Carnë Draug:
> Hi everyone
>
> the java package as been moved to Octave core (see
> http://hg.savannah.gnu.org/hgweb/octave/rev/acf0addfc610). I want to
> remove the package from the SVN tree to prevent accidental branching
> of its development.
>
> I will keep the tarball in the servers available for download and
> install, even after the release of whatever Octave version includes
> it.
>
> Carnë
>
Is it planned to integrate it at some point in a similar way as the java
support is integrated into Matlab?

Re: [OctDev] removing java package from SVN tree

[Philip N. <pr....@hc...>]

Martin Helm wrote:
> Am 23.11.2012 21:52, schrieb Carnë Draug:
>> Hi everyone
>>
>> the java package as been moved to Octave core (see

Hmm.... surprise.

>> http://hg.savannah.gnu.org/hgweb/octave/rev/acf0addfc610). I want to
>> remove the package from the SVN tree to prevent accidental branching
>> of its development.
>>
>> I will keep the tarball in the servers available for download and
>> install, even after the release of whatever Octave version includes
>> it.
>>
>> Carnë
>>
> Is it planned to integrate it at some point in a similar way as the java
> support is integrated into Matlab?

Apparently, exactly that has been done; Octave-Java-package's 
idiosyncrasies permitting.

That is, Matlab ships with a JRE so that Java is always guaranteed to 
work with ML. (The ML GUI was (still is?) Java-based so I can understand 
why TMW needed to do that.)

AFAICS Octave is dependent on an independently installed JDK. Moreover, 
once Octave has been built from source w/o JDK, adding in a JRE or JDK 
later on and then expecting Java to work automagically from Octave may 
be a tad optimistic.
Of course, for users invoking a binary distribution package this 
shouldn't be a problem.

Philip

Re: [OctDev] removing java package from SVN tree

[Alexander H. <ale...@gm...>]

On 11/24/12 10:38 AM, Philip Nienhuis wrote:
> Martin Helm wrote:
>> Am 23.11.2012 21:52, schrieb Carnë Draug:
>>> Hi everyone
>>>
>>> the java package as been moved to Octave core (see
> 
> Hmm.... surprise.
> 
>>> http://hg.savannah.gnu.org/hgweb/octave/rev/acf0addfc610). I want to
>>> remove the package from the SVN tree to prevent accidental branching
>>> of its development.
>>>
>>> I will keep the tarball in the servers available for download and
>>> install, even after the release of whatever Octave version includes
>>> it.
>>>
>>> Carnë
>>>
>> Is it planned to integrate it at some point in a similar way as the java
>> support is integrated into Matlab?
> 
> Apparently, exactly that has been done; Octave-Java-package's 
> idiosyncrasies permitting.
> 
> That is, Matlab ships with a JRE so that Java is always guaranteed to 
> work with ML. (The ML GUI was (still is?) Java-based so I can understand 
> why TMW needed to do that.)
> 
> AFAICS Octave is dependent on an independently installed JDK. Moreover, 
> once Octave has been built from source w/o JDK, adding in a JRE or JDK 
> later on and then expecting Java to work automagically from Octave may 
> be a tad optimistic.
> Of course, for users invoking a binary distribution package this 
> shouldn't be a problem.
> 
> Philip
> 

I'm curious whether anybody has tried Octave-Java on Mac OS X using an
Oracle JDK/JRE rather than what Apple provides to see if it also
produces the runtime threading error indicated by
http://lists.apple.com/archives/java-dev/2005/Mar/msg00506.html.

Right now that renders the Octave-Java package essentially nonfunctional
on OS X when using Apple's Java.
-- 
Alexander Hansen, Ph.D.
Fink User Liaison
My package updates: http://finkakh.wordpress.com/

Re: [OctDev] removing java package from SVN tree

[Michael G. <mic...@gm...>]

On Sat, Nov 24, 2012 at 1:50 PM, Alexander Hansen <
ale...@gm...> wrote:

> I'm curious whether anybody has tried Octave-Java on Mac OS X using an
> Oracle JDK/JRE rather than what Apple provides to see if it also
> produces the runtime threading error indicated by
> http://lists.apple.com/archives/java-dev/2005/Mar/msg00506.html.
>
> Right now that renders the Octave-Java package essentially nonfunctional
> on OS X when using Apple's Java.
>

Only the GUI aspects of Java are unusable. But there's much more than that
in Java.

Michael.

Re: [OctDev] removing java package from SVN tree

[Alexander H. <ale...@gm...>]

On 11/24/12 2:11 PM, Michael Goffioul wrote:
> On Sat, Nov 24, 2012 at 1:50 PM, Alexander Hansen
> <ale...@gm... <mailto:ale...@gm...>> wrote:
> 
>     I'm curious whether anybody has tried Octave-Java on Mac OS X using an
>     Oracle JDK/JRE rather than what Apple provides to see if it also
>     produces the runtime threading error indicated by
>     http://lists.apple.com/archives/java-dev/2005/Mar/msg00506.html.
> 
>     Right now that renders the Octave-Java package essentially nonfunctional
>     on OS X when using Apple's Java.
> 
> 
> Only the GUI aspects of Java are unusable. But there's much more than
> that in Java.
> 
> Michael.
> 

The last time I tried I couldn't get the spreadsheet import tools to
work, either.
-- 
Alexander Hansen, Ph.D.
Fink User Liaison
My package updates: http://finkakh.wordpress.com/