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From: Philip N. <pr....@hc...> - 2012-10-15 20:41:44
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Hi there, c. wrote: > The "SVN" link in the navigation bar on all Octave-forge points to: > > http://sourceforge.net/svn/?group_id=2888 > > the correct link has now changed to > > https://sourceforge.net/p/octave/code Right, but to what URL should I point my TortoiseSVN client to be able to commit changes? I used to be able to commit changed files directly to the individual package directories at https://octave.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/octave/trunk/octave-forge/main/io Currently I only get: "Unable to connect to a repository at URL 'https://sourceforge.net/p/octave/code/11246/tree/trunk/octave-forge/main/io' Repository moved temporarily to 'http://sourceforge.net/p/octave/code/11246/tree/trunk/octave-forge/main/io'; please relocate" I've "relocated" (changed URL) quite a bit but no luck. Thanks, Philip |
From: jo <eta...@ya...> - 2012-10-15 08:03:09
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It appears to work if i install with gnuplot option instead of default qt options... Thanks for pointing me in the right direction. Kind Regards, Jo ________________________________ From: jo <eta...@ya...> To: Philip Nienhuis <pr....@hc...> Cc: "oct...@li..." <oct...@li...> Sent: Sunday, October 14, 2012 11:21 PM Subject: Re: [OctDev] plot segfaults the msvc2010 version also crashes upon calling plot also removed gnuplot but that did not help... ________________________________ From: Philip Nienhuis <pr....@hc...> To: jo <eta...@ya...> Cc: "oct...@li..." <oct...@li...> Sent: Saturday, October 13, 2012 9:31 PM Subject: Re: [OctDev] plot segfaults jo wrote: > tried first general download version then option 2 from > http://wiki.octave.org/Octave_for_Windows, got in both cases a segfault > in plot > Please advise... > > C:\Users\joos>C:\octave\Octave3.6.1_gcc4.6.2\bin\octave.exe > GNU Octave, version 3.6.1 > Copyright (C) 2012 John W. Eaton and others. > This is free software; see the source code for copying conditions. > There is ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY; not even for MERCHANTABILITY or > FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE. For details, type `warranty'. > > Octave was configured for "i686-pc-mingw32". > > Additional information about Octave is available at http://www.octave.org. > > Please contribute if you find this software useful. > For more information, visit http://www.octave.org/help-wanted.html > > Read http://www.octave.org/bugs.html to learn how to submit bug reports. > > For information about changes from previous versions, type `news'. > > octave:1> plot(exp(cos([-9:.1:9]))) > panic: Segmentation violation -- stopping myself... > attempting to save variables to `octave-core'... > save to `octave-core' complete > warning: get: allowing closerequestfcn to match figure property > closerequestfcn > error: get: unknown property "closerequestfcn" > error: get: unknown figure property deletefcn > warning: get: allowing closerequestfcn to match figure property > closerequestfcn > warning: get: allowing __plot_stream__ to match figure property > __plot_stream__ > error: get: unknown root property currentfigure Sometimes (often) it may help to google around a bit before asking, e.g. for "closerequestfcn octave". If you would have done so, you'd have found this: http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/octave-bug-tracker/2012-03/msg00249.html (and yeah, this is a creepy issue) Another suggestion would be to try the MSVC2010 version. That doesn't suffer from the libblas issues (but may perform a bit slower, depending on your hardware). Philip |
From: Rafael L. <ra...@la...> - 2012-10-15 07:57:01
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* Carnë Draug <car...@gm...> [2012-10-12 17:22]: > a new release of the geometry package is out, version 1.6.0, by Juan > Carbajal. Enjoy Octave responsibly. Thanks for this new release. When trying to build the Debian package for geometry, I have found two problems in the tarball: 1) The directories src/octclip/ and inst/octclip/src/ seem to be duplicated. I think that the second one should be removed from the tarball. 2) The file _oc_polybool.oct is correctly built but does not get installed into the architecture-dependent directory. The very thin patch attached below fixes the problem. It simply copies the file from src/octclip/ into src/, after its compilation. That may not be an elegant way of addressing this issue but it works, at least. Please, fix these issues in the next release. Rafael |
From: Jordi G. H. <jo...@oc...> - 2012-10-15 00:10:19
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On 12 October 2012 20:59, Vu, Phuong A (MP Technology) <Phu...@bp...> wrote: > Is there a single document (pdf or otherwise) that would give me a general overview of > the Octave design/data structures, etc... If a person is new to Octave development, > where should they go to read first ? Do you know why are you the third person this week to ask this question? Are you all taking a course together or something? We haven't had this question in a while, and suddenly three people ask in the same week. At any rate, as I answered earlier, I will write something about it. But in the meantime, there isn't much detail. - Jordi G. H. |
From: Carnë D. <car...@gm...> - 2012-10-14 23:32:20
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On 13 October 2012 02:59, Vu, Phuong A (MP Technology) <Phu...@bp...> wrote: > > Is there a single document (pdf or otherwise) that would give me a general overview of > the Octave design/data structures, etc... If a person is new to Octave development, > where should they go to read first ? > > Thanks, > > -Phuong Hi Phuong your question should have been made to one of the octave core mailing list, probably maintainers. See http://www.gnu.org/software/octave/get-involved.html You have e-mailed the Octave Forge mailing list which is a sister project of GNU Octave (we develop packages for Octave). Anyway, about your question see http://wiki.octave.org/FAQ#How_can_I_get_involved_in_Octave_development.3F Basically, look into the etc/HACKING file after you cloned the repository. Carnë |
From: jo <eta...@ya...> - 2012-10-14 21:21:41
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the msvc2010 version also crashes upon calling plot also removed gnuplot but that did not help... ________________________________ From: Philip Nienhuis <pr....@hc...> To: jo <eta...@ya...> Cc: "oct...@li..." <oct...@li...> Sent: Saturday, October 13, 2012 9:31 PM Subject: Re: [OctDev] plot segfaults jo wrote: > tried first general download version then option 2 from > http://wiki.octave.org/Octave_for_Windows, got in both cases a segfault > in plot > Please advise... > > C:\Users\joos>C:\octave\Octave3.6.1_gcc4.6.2\bin\octave.exe > GNU Octave, version 3.6.1 > Copyright (C) 2012 John W. Eaton and others. > This is free software; see the source code for copying conditions. > There is ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY; not even for MERCHANTABILITY or > FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE. For details, type `warranty'. > > Octave was configured for "i686-pc-mingw32". > > Additional information about Octave is available at http://www.octave.org. > > Please contribute if you find this software useful. > For more information, visit http://www.octave.org/help-wanted.html > > Read http://www.octave.org/bugs.html to learn how to submit bug reports. > > For information about changes from previous versions, type `news'. > > octave:1> plot(exp(cos([-9:.1:9]))) > panic: Segmentation violation -- stopping myself... > attempting to save variables to `octave-core'... > save to `octave-core' complete > warning: get: allowing closerequestfcn to match figure property > closerequestfcn > error: get: unknown property "closerequestfcn" > error: get: unknown figure property deletefcn > warning: get: allowing closerequestfcn to match figure property > closerequestfcn > warning: get: allowing __plot_stream__ to match figure property > __plot_stream__ > error: get: unknown root property currentfigure Sometimes (often) it may help to google around a bit before asking, e.g. for "closerequestfcn octave". If you would have done so, you'd have found this: http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/octave-bug-tracker/2012-03/msg00249.html (and yeah, this is a creepy issue) Another suggestion would be to try the MSVC2010 version. That doesn't suffer from the libblas issues (but may perform a bit slower, depending on your hardware). Philip |
From: Jordi G. H. <jo...@oc...> - 2012-10-14 16:22:46
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On 14 October 2012 05:12, marco atzeri <mar...@gm...> wrote: > On 10/14/2012 10:51 AM, Sivahari Nandakumar wrote: > followup to the list > >> Dear Marco, >> the result of >> pkg install -verbose image-1.0.15.tar.gz >> is >> >> mkdir (/tmp/oct-FhHuOG) >> untar (/home/appu/Downloads/image-1.0.15.tar.gz, /tmp/oct-FhHuOG) >> make: mkoctfile: Command not found > > you need to install the octave-devel package, otherwise you can > not compile tha package from source > (image-1.0.15.tar.gz is a source package not a binary one) But a binary package should exist for it. I expect it would be named something like octave-image from Sivahari's rpm or apt distribution. We really should encourage people to install binary packages first before we tell them to attempt to compile from source. - Jordi G. H. |
From: Carnë D. <car...@gm...> - 2012-10-14 15:57:23
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Hi everyone a new release of the quaternion package is out, version 2.0.1, by Lukas Reichlin. Enjoy Octave responsibly. Carnë |
From: marco a. <mar...@gm...> - 2012-10-14 09:12:24
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On 10/14/2012 10:51 AM, Sivahari Nandakumar wrote: followup to the list > Dear Marco, > the result of > pkg install -verbose image-1.0.15.tar.gz > is > > mkdir (/tmp/oct-FhHuOG) > untar (/home/appu/Downloads/image-1.0.15.tar.gz, /tmp/oct-FhHuOG) > make: mkoctfile: Command not found you need to install the octave-devel package, otherwise you can not compile tha package from source (image-1.0.15.tar.gz is a source package not a binary one) > make: *** [__spatial_filtering__.oct] Error 127 > 'make' returned the following error: make: Entering directory > `/tmp/oct-FhHuOG/image-1.0.15/src' > mkoctfile -Wall __spatial_filtering__.cc > make: Leaving directory `/tmp/oct-FhHuOG/image-1.0.15/src' > error: called from `pkg>configure_make' in file > /usr/share/octave/3.6.2/m/pkg/pkg.m near line 1384, column 9 > error: called from: > error: /usr/share/octave/3.6.2/m/pkg/pkg.m at line 826, column 5 > error: /usr/share/octave/3.6.2/m/pkg/pkg.m at line 383, column 9 > > I copied the .m files in inst folder to image folder in > /usr/share/octave/3.6.2/m/image, is it ok? > > --Sivahari Marco |
From: Philip N. <pr....@hc...> - 2012-10-13 19:31:31
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jo wrote: > tried first general download version then option 2 from > http://wiki.octave.org/Octave_for_Windows, got in both cases a segfault > in plot > Please advise... > > C:\Users\joos>C:\octave\Octave3.6.1_gcc4.6.2\bin\octave.exe > GNU Octave, version 3.6.1 > Copyright (C) 2012 John W. Eaton and others. > This is free software; see the source code for copying conditions. > There is ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY; not even for MERCHANTABILITY or > FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE. For details, type `warranty'. > > Octave was configured for "i686-pc-mingw32". > > Additional information about Octave is available at http://www.octave.org. > > Please contribute if you find this software useful. > For more information, visit http://www.octave.org/help-wanted.html > > Read http://www.octave.org/bugs.html to learn how to submit bug reports. > > For information about changes from previous versions, type `news'. > > octave:1> plot(exp(cos([-9:.1:9]))) > panic: Segmentation violation -- stopping myself... > attempting to save variables to `octave-core'... > save to `octave-core' complete > warning: get: allowing closerequestfcn to match figure property > closerequestfcn > error: get: unknown property "closerequestfcn" > error: get: unknown figure property deletefcn > warning: get: allowing closerequestfcn to match figure property > closerequestfcn > warning: get: allowing __plot_stream__ to match figure property > __plot_stream__ > error: get: unknown root property currentfigure Sometimes (often) it may help to google around a bit before asking, e.g. for "closerequestfcn octave". If you would have done so, you'd have found this: http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/octave-bug-tracker/2012-03/msg00249.html (and yeah, this is a creepy issue) Another suggestion would be to try the MSVC2010 version. That doesn't suffer from the libblas issues (but may perform a bit slower, depending on your hardware). Philip |
From: jo <eta...@ya...> - 2012-10-13 19:17:53
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This is on windows 7. Older versions of octave also worked fine on this laptop; unfornately I decided to *upgrade* ________________________________ From: Doug Stewart <dou...@gm...> To: jo <eta...@ya...> Cc: "oct...@li..." <oct...@li...> Sent: Saturday, October 13, 2012 8:27 PM Subject: Re: [OctDev] plot segfaults On Sat, Oct 13, 2012 at 1:34 PM, jo <eta...@ya...> wrote: tried first general download version then option 2 from >http://wiki.octave.org/Octave_for_Windows, got in both cases a segfault in plot >Please advise... > > >C:\Users\joos>C:\octave\Octave3.6.1_gcc4.6.2\bin\octave.exe >GNU Octave, version 3.6.1 >Copyright (C) 2012 John W. Eaton and others. >This is free software; see the source code for copying conditions. >There is ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY; not even for MERCHANTABILITY or >FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE. For details, type `warranty'. > >Octave was configured for "i686-pc-mingw32". > >Additional information about Octave is available at http://www.octave.org. > >Please contribute if you find this software useful. >For more information, visit http://www.octave.org/help-wanted.html > >Read http://www.octave.org/bugs.html to learn how to submit bug reports. > >For information about changes from previous versions, type `news'. > >octave:1> plot(exp(cos([-9:.1:9]))) >panic: Segmentation violation -- stopping myself... >attempting to save variables to `octave-core'... >save to `octave-core' complete >warning: get: allowing closerequestfcn to match figure property closerequestfcn >error: get: unknown property "closerequestfcn" >error: get: unknown figure property deletefcn >warning: get: allowing closerequestfcn to match figure property closerequestfcn >warning: get: allowing __plot_stream__ to match figure property __plot_stream__ >error: get: unknown root property currentfigure > >------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >Don't let slow site performance ruin your business. Deploy New Relic APM >Deploy New Relic app performance management and know exactly >what is happening inside your Ruby, Python, PHP, Java, and .NET app >Try New Relic at no cost today and get our sweet Data Nerd shirt too! >http://p.sf.net/sfu/newrelic-dev2dev >_______________________________________________ >Octave-dev mailing list >Oct...@li... >https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/octave-dev > > works OK for me ubuntu octave 3.7.0+ -- DAS https://linuxcounter.net/user/206392.html |
From: Doug S. <dou...@gm...> - 2012-10-13 18:27:18
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On Sat, Oct 13, 2012 at 1:34 PM, jo <eta...@ya...> wrote: > tried first general download version then option 2 from > http://wiki.octave.org/Octave_for_Windows, got in both cases a segfault > in plot > Please advise... > > C:\Users\joos>C:\octave\Octave3.6.1_gcc4.6.2\bin\octave.exe > GNU Octave, version 3.6.1 > Copyright (C) 2012 John W. Eaton and others. > This is free software; see the source code for copying conditions. > There is ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY; not even for MERCHANTABILITY or > FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE. For details, type `warranty'. > > Octave was configured for "i686-pc-mingw32". > > Additional information about Octave is available at http://www.octave.org. > > Please contribute if you find this software useful. > For more information, visit http://www.octave.org/help-wanted.html > > Read http://www.octave.org/bugs.html to learn how to submit bug reports. > > For information about changes from previous versions, type `news'. > > octave:1> plot(exp(cos([-9:.1:9]))) > panic: Segmentation violation -- stopping myself... > attempting to save variables to `octave-core'... > save to `octave-core' complete > warning: get: allowing closerequestfcn to match figure property > closerequestfcn > error: get: unknown property "closerequestfcn" > error: get: unknown figure property deletefcn > warning: get: allowing closerequestfcn to match figure property > closerequestfcn > warning: get: allowing __plot_stream__ to match figure property > __plot_stream__ > error: get: unknown root property currentfigure > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Don't let slow site performance ruin your business. Deploy New Relic APM > Deploy New Relic app performance management and know exactly > what is happening inside your Ruby, Python, PHP, Java, and .NET app > Try New Relic at no cost today and get our sweet Data Nerd shirt too! > http://p.sf.net/sfu/newrelic-dev2dev > _______________________________________________ > Octave-dev mailing list > Oct...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/octave-dev > > works OK for me ubuntu octave 3.7.0+ -- DAS https://linuxcounter.net/user/206392.html |
From: jo <eta...@ya...> - 2012-10-13 17:34:46
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tried first general download version then option 2 from http://wiki.octave.org/Octave_for_Windows, got in both cases a segfault in plot Please advise... C:\Users\joos>C:\octave\Octave3.6.1_gcc4.6.2\bin\octave.exe GNU Octave, version 3.6.1 Copyright (C) 2012 John W. Eaton and others. This is free software; see the source code for copying conditions. There is ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY; not even for MERCHANTABILITY or FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE. For details, type `warranty'. Octave was configured for "i686-pc-mingw32". Additional information about Octave is available at http://www.octave.org. Please contribute if you find this software useful. For more information, visit http://www.octave.org/help-wanted.html Read http://www.octave.org/bugs.html to learn how to submit bug reports. For information about changes from previous versions, type `news'. octave:1> plot(exp(cos([-9:.1:9]))) panic: Segmentation violation -- stopping myself... attempting to save variables to `octave-core'... save to `octave-core' complete warning: get: allowing closerequestfcn to match figure property closerequestfcn error: get: unknown property "closerequestfcn" error: get: unknown figure property deletefcn warning: get: allowing closerequestfcn to match figure property closerequestfcn warning: get: allowing __plot_stream__ to match figure property __plot_stream__ error: get: unknown root property currentfigure |
From: JuanPi <aj...@gm...> - 2012-10-13 15:36:06
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On Fri, Oct 12, 2012 at 5:22 PM, Carnë Draug <car...@gm...> wrote: > Hi everyone > > a new release of the geometry package is out, version 1.6.0, by Juan > Carbajal. Enjoy Octave responsibly. > > Carnë I thought the plotting was fixed, but apparently it wasn't. http://octave.sourceforge.net/geometry/function/drawCylinder.html This function uses fltk to generate the plot, but for some reason generate_html is not getting them. -- JuanPi Carbajal ----- "It is one thing not to be able to perform a certain feat, but quite another to prove that it cannot be done." - Henry Ernest Dudeney ----- http://ailab.ifi.uzh.ch/carbajal/ |
From: Juan P. C. <car...@if...> - 2012-10-13 15:29:41
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fyi, ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Zoltan Szabo <sz...@cs...> Date: Thu, Oct 11, 2012 at 7:44 PM Subject: Connectionists: Information Theoretical Estimators Toolbox To: con...@cs... Dear Connectionist-ers, We are pleased to announce our recently released ITE (Information Theoretical Estimators) toolbox. The ITE package could be of interest to many of you: the estimation of information theoretical quantities (entropy, mutual information, divergence) plays a central role in numerous important problems of computational neuroscience. Unfortunately, available packages focus on (i) discrete variables, or (ii) quite specialized applications and information theoretical estimation methods. To fill in this serious gap, we have recently released ITE (i) a highly modular, (ii) free and open source, (iii) multi-platform toolbox package, which 1. is capable of estimating many different variants of entropy, mutual information and divergence measures. 2. offers a simple and unified framework to (a) easily construct new estimators from existing ones or from scratch, and (b) transparently use the obtained estimators in information theoretical optimization problems. 3. with a prototype application in a central problem family of signal processing, independent subspace analysis and its extensions. The homepage of ITE is "https://bitbucket.org/szzoli/ite/". Feel free to use it. Best, Zoltan ("http://nipg.inf.elte.hu/szzoli") -- M. Sc. Juan Pablo Carbajal ----- PhD Student University of Zürich http://ailab.ifi.uzh.ch/carbajal/ |
From: Vu, P. A (MP Technology) <Phu...@bp...> - 2012-10-13 01:26:16
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Is there a single document (pdf or otherwise) that would give me a general overview of the Octave design/data structures, etc... If a person is new to Octave development, where should they go to read first ? Thanks, -Phuong |
From: Carnë D. <car...@gm...> - 2012-10-12 21:08:19
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On 12 October 2012 22:12, Stephen Montgomery-Smith <st...@mi...> wrote: > I saw there is a generate_html-1.0.5.tar.gz on your sourceforge page. > However, if you look inside DESCRIPTION, it says that it is > generate_html-0.1.5. > > Can you fix this discrepancy? > > Stephen Fixed. Thanks for pointing that out. Carnë |
From: Stephen Montgomery-S. <st...@mi...> - 2012-10-12 20:53:45
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I saw there is a generate_html-1.0.5.tar.gz on your sourceforge page. However, if you look inside DESCRIPTION, it says that it is generate_html-0.1.5. Can you fix this discrepancy? Stephen |
From: Carnë D. <car...@gm...> - 2012-10-12 16:31:49
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Hi everyone please update your version of the generate_html package http://octave.sourceforge.net/generate_html/index.html I have just release 1.0.5 which fixes the old links from before the sourceforge update. Thanks, Carnë |
From: Carnë D. <car...@gm...> - 2012-10-12 16:29:45
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On 12 October 2012 18:18, c. <car...@gm...> wrote: > > On 12 Oct 2012, at 18:13, Carnë Draug wrote: > >> I don't think this is necessary. I believe the attached script fixed >> it. I hope it didn't damage any page by accident when doing it. Please >> let me know if you see anything strange. >> >> I'm preparing a new release of the package too. >> >> Carnë > > It might be just a problem with my browsers cache, but in package help files I still get the old link, see for example: > http://octave.sourceforge.net/bim/function/bim1a_advection_diffusion.html > what happens if you click on "SVN" from that page? It's kind of fixed for me. The link points to the correct place http://sourceforge.net/p/octave/code but I get an error 500 from sourceforge... Carnë |
From: c. <car...@gm...> - 2012-10-12 16:17:51
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On 12 Oct 2012, at 18:13, Carnë Draug wrote: > I don't think this is necessary. I believe the attached script fixed > it. I hope it didn't damage any page by accident when doing it. Please > let me know if you see anything strange. > > I'm preparing a new release of the package too. > > Carnë It might be just a problem with my browsers cache, but in package help files I still get the old link, see for example: http://octave.sourceforge.net/bim/function/bim1a_advection_diffusion.html what happens if you click on "SVN" from that page? c. |
From: Carnë D. <car...@gm...> - 2012-10-12 16:14:09
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On 12 October 2012 09:02, c. <car...@gm...> wrote: > The "SVN" link in the navigation bar on all Octave-forge points to: > > http://sourceforge.net/svn/?group_id=2888 > > the correct link has now changed to > > https://sourceforge.net/p/octave/code > > The patch below (which I just checked in) will fix the link in the next package releases, if > > - a new release of generate_html is made > > - all packages a released anew > > - html files are generated for each package with > the latest version of generate_html > > This sounds like a task for a code-sprint, should we add it to the pkg.m code-sprint? I don't think this is necessary. I believe the attached script fixed it. I hope it didn't damage any page by accident when doing it. Please let me know if you see anything strange. I'm preparing a new release of the package too. Carnë |
From: Carnë D. <car...@gm...> - 2012-10-12 15:22:50
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Hi everyone a new release of the geometry package is out, version 1.6.0, by Juan Carbajal. Enjoy Octave responsibly. Carnë |
From: Carnë D. <car...@gm...> - 2012-10-12 15:01:57
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On 12 October 2012 15:09, JuanPi <aj...@gm...> wrote: > Thank you Carlo! > > I was using 3.6.3 the latest release, not devel. I will check if the > stable branch also doesn't print the fltk figures. > > @Carnë: How shall I proceed? Shall I put this files in the sf server? No need. I'll upload them soon enough. Carnë |
From: JuanPi <aj...@gm...> - 2012-10-12 13:39:48
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On Fri, Oct 12, 2012 at 3:38 PM, Jordi Gutiérrez Hermoso <jo...@oc...> wrote: > On 12 October 2012 09:23, JuanPi <aj...@gm...> wrote: >> Of course I can imagine it is a dauting task to integrate it as an >> optional toolkit/backend in octave. Who did fltk integration, how hard >> was it? > > Bateman, jwe, Søren, and Shai were the major players in the fltk > integration, iirc. It was a lot of work. But this includes the OpenGL > backend. The fltk part is only a minor thing that just draws the > window decorations (buttons, borders, etc). The Qt backend (currently, > QtHandles) reuses the OpenGL plotting and uses Qt widgets instead. > > - Jordi G. H. Thanks, I see OpenGL sounds good to me, I was wondering why we have so may quirks with fltk. Is qthandles already available for testing? -- JuanPi Carbajal ----- "It is one thing not to be able to perform a certain feat, but quite another to prove that it cannot be done." - Henry Ernest Dudeney ----- http://ailab.ifi.uzh.ch/carbajal/ |