Re: [Numpy-discussion] why numarray.inputarray?

[Todd M. <jm...@st...>]

On Tue, 2004-02-10 at 16:17, Colin J. Williams wrote:
> Todd Miller wrote:
> 
> >On Tue, 2004-02-10 at 09:31, Colin J. Williams wrote:
> >  
> >
> >>Tim Hochberg wrote:
> >>
> >>    
> >>
> >>>I just noticed that the name asarray is considered obsolete and is to 
> >>>be replaced with inputarray. Why is that? The name asarray has a 
> >>>pretty clear connection with it's behaviour (return it's argument as 
> >>>an array), while I can come up with no such connection for inputarray. 
> >>>The best I can come up with is that it's often used on the inputs of 
> >>>functions to coerce them to arrays, but that seems a pretty tenuous 
> >>>connection. Is there a better reason? Am I just being obtuse?
> >>>
> >>>-tim
> >>>      
> >>>
> >>I agree that the term asarray better describes the functionality. 
> >>
> >>One possible use would be to convert an instance of a sub-class of 
> >>NumArray into an instance of the class NumArray.  However, it doesn't do 
> >>that.
> >>
> >>It would help if there were a clearer distinction between the functions 
> >>array and inputarray.  The former would appear to cast a wider net and, 
> >>among other things, include files.
> >>    
> >>
> >
> >This is a mess, I have to agree.  The most important distinction is that
> >array() makes a copy of an array by default, while
> >inputarray()/asarray() does not.
> >
> >  
> >
> >>I wonder whether there is a need for both array and input array, 
> >>wouldn't it be best to focus on the function with the more general utility?
> >>    
> >>
> >Based on your input, and Tim Hochberg's earlier comments,  I think we
> >should:
> >
> >1. Clean up the array function by ditching the buffer/sequence keyword
> >deprecation code.  buffer has been deprecated long enough.
> >
> Good!  Although it means some changes in my not fully tested code.  I 
> believe that sequence can also be a buffer, as long as type and shape 
> are also provided.  I haven't yet tried this.
> 
> >
> >2. Redefine asarray() as calling array() with copy=1.  Tim's right. 
> >It's a better name than inputarray() and we want it for backward
> >compatibility anyway.
> >
> Good!  Although it would be good to make provision for this to convert a 
> sub-class instance into an instance of  NumArray,  something like:
>             if instance(sequence, NumArray):
>                if sequence.__class__ !=  NumArray.__class__:
>                    sequence.__class__ = NumArray.__class__
>                     copy= True

I'd like to hear more opinions on this.  

> >
> >3. Redefine inputarray() as a non-recommended synonym for asarray(). 
> >I'd say deprecate it,  but that's a PITA for anyone already using it.
> >  
> >
> It wouldn't be that much of a pain if the deprecation were in the 
> documentation only and put into the code after say a year.

Consider it done and get back to me in a year.

> 
> >4. Change the manual to document asarray() as primary and document
> >inputarray() as a non-recommended synonym.
> >
> Yes.  Incidentally, what is the current status of the documentation?  
> The last time I looked, it was for version 0.7.
> 

JC Hsu did a lot of work revising the manual.  I just posted the new
version on Source Forge as part of the 0.8 file release.

Todd
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Todd Miller <jm...@st...>