Re: [Numpy-discussion] why numarray.inputarray?

[Colin J. W. <cj...@sy...>]

Todd Miller wrote:

>On Tue, 2004-02-10 at 09:31, Colin J. Williams wrote:
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>>Tim Hochberg wrote:
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>>>I just noticed that the name asarray is considered obsolete and is to 
>>>be replaced with inputarray. Why is that? The name asarray has a 
>>>pretty clear connection with it's behaviour (return it's argument as 
>>>an array), while I can come up with no such connection for inputarray. 
>>>The best I can come up with is that it's often used on the inputs of 
>>>functions to coerce them to arrays, but that seems a pretty tenuous 
>>>connection. Is there a better reason? Am I just being obtuse?
>>>
>>>-tim
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>>I agree that the term asarray better describes the functionality. 
>>
>>One possible use would be to convert an instance of a sub-class of 
>>NumArray into an instance of the class NumArray.  However, it doesn't do 
>>that.
>>
>>It would help if there were a clearer distinction between the functions 
>>array and inputarray.  The former would appear to cast a wider net and, 
>>among other things, include files.
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>This is a mess, I have to agree.  The most important distinction is that
>array() makes a copy of an array by default, while
>inputarray()/asarray() does not.
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>>I wonder whether there is a need for both array and input array, 
>>wouldn't it be best to focus on the function with the more general utility?
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>Based on your input, and Tim Hochberg's earlier comments,  I think we
>should:
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>1. Clean up the array function by ditching the buffer/sequence keyword
>deprecation code.  buffer has been deprecated long enough.
>
Good!  Although it means some changes in my not fully tested code.  I 
believe that sequence can also be a buffer, as long as type and shape 
are also provided.  I haven't yet tried this.

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>2. Redefine asarray() as calling array() with copy=1.  Tim's right. 
>It's a better name than inputarray() and we want it for backward
>compatibility anyway.
>
Good!  Although it would be good to make provision for this to convert a 
sub-class instance into an instance of  NumArray,  something like:
            if instance(sequence, NumArray):
               if sequence.__class__ !=  NumArray.__class__:
                   sequence.__class__ = NumArray.__class__
                    copy= True

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>3. Redefine inputarray() as a non-recommended synonym for asarray(). 
>I'd say deprecate it,  but that's a PITA for anyone already using it.
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It wouldn't be that much of a pain if the deprecation were in the 
documentation only and put into the code after say a year.

>4. Change the manual to document asarray() as primary and document
>inputarray() as a non-recommended synonym.
>
Yes.  Incidentally, what is the current status of the documentation?  
The last time I looked, it was for version 0.7.

Colin W.

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>Comments?
>
>Todd
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>>Colin W.
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