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From: <rwe...@ne...> - 2000-04-25 05:43:15
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The design page lists (among others) the following issues: Privacy Issues - How do we prevent people from turning this into a SPAM database ? Security Issues - How do we ensure security of the data ? I would think most people (including myself) would want to make certain information available to certain consumers, and other information available only to others. For example, for the use case with the surfing vacation I might want to allow bonafide travel agents to know about my desired travel agenda, but I would rather not share that information with the local burglars. For the use case with the job search, I might want recruiters to find my info but not my current manager. And so on. I can't think of a way to allow somewhat fine-grained access control with authentication, without making the thing too cumbersome to be widely adopted. Rob |
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From: Ashvil <as...@i3...> - 2000-04-25 15:02:30
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Hi Rob, > I might want recruiters to find my info but > not my current manager. And so on. > That's an issue that most people we talk to, point out. It is a complex issue due to a lack of any digital verification system on the internet, which can verify that the entity is a qualified recruiter in your example. We want to complete the directory and then tackle these hard issues. There is information that has no privacy restrictions. eg. - Those recruiters and other managers posting jobs, want that information to be seen by as many people as possible. At this point, we think that these kinds of applications make the most sense. The first application that we are thinking of is a job posting database, where instead of posting jobs to specified sites. The job poster could enter it on any site and this information would be available to the entire community. Comments ? Regards, Ashvil |
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From: <rwe...@ne...> - 2000-04-25 15:48:36
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Ashvil wrote: > Hi Rob, > > > I might want recruiters to find my info but > > not my current manager. And so on. > > > > That's an issue that most people we talk to, point out. It is a > complex issue due to a lack of any digital verification system on the > internet, which can verify that the entity is a qualified recruiter in > your example. > > We want to complete the directory and then tackle these hard issues. > There is information that has no privacy restrictions. eg. - Those > recruiters and other managers posting jobs, want that information to > be seen by as many people as possible. At this point, we think that > these kinds of applications make the most sense. > > The first application that we are thinking of is a job posting > database, where instead of posting jobs to specified sites. The job > poster could enter it on any site and this information would be > available to the entire community. > > Comments ? > > Regards, > Ashvil Yes, that is a useful thing and one which can be done without addressing the authentication and access control issues. But doesn't it imply that publishers will most likely be commercial entities (who would be publishing anyway and paying for their publishing), rather than "you and me and my mother"? More of a Yellow Pages than a White Pages. Rob > > > > _______________________________________________ > Ngoid-dev mailing list > Ngo...@li... > http://lists.sourceforge.net/mailman/listinfo/ngoid-dev |
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From: Ashvil <as...@i3...> - 2000-04-25 16:45:35
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Rob wrote > Yes, that is a useful thing and one which can be done > without addressing the authentication and access control > issues. But doesn't it imply that publishers will most > likely be commercial entities (who would be publishing > anyway and paying for their publishing), rather than "you > and me and my mother"? More of a Yellow Pages than a White Pages. > > Rob > Hopefully we can attract small biz folks, non-profit groups who want volunteers, community web sites like xmlhack.com, Individual fan sites, etc. where developers and other folks gather. If we can open up the Yellow pages using an Open virtual database, where people can search for their ideal job or look for some volunteer work. Right now the yellow pages are controlled by major corporate entities anyway. The big commercial entities have their own publishing avenues, so I doubt they will be interested at the start. If they want to sign up, they are welcome, provided they honor the license to keep the data open. I don't look at this as a Yellow pages vs. White pages issue, I think the two concepts will merge, once we have a digital verification system in place, as small folks can get access to the same avenues as big guys. After all, we all have something to sell, whether it our skills or the stuff in the garage ;-) Besides we need an application to help build the directory and this one seems to be the easiest to start with, I hope. But that does not mean all of us need to have a one track focus, Feel free to focus on any tasks that help the project. Regards, Ashvil |
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From: <rwe...@ne...> - 2000-04-25 17:06:25
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Ashvil wrote: > Rob wrote > > Yes, that is a useful thing and one which can be done > > without addressing the authentication and access control > > issues. But doesn't it imply that publishers will most > > likely be commercial entities (who would be publishing > > anyway and paying for their publishing), rather than "you > > and me and my mother"? More of a Yellow Pages than a White Pages. > > > > Rob > > > > Hopefully we can attract small biz folks, non-profit groups who want > volunteers, community web sites like xmlhack.com, Individual fan > sites, etc. where developers and other folks gather. If we can open up > the Yellow pages using an Open virtual database, where people can > search for their ideal job or look for some volunteer work. Right now > the yellow pages are controlled by major corporate entities anyway. > > The big commercial entities have their own publishing avenues, so I > doubt they will be interested at the start. If they want to sign up, > they are welcome, provided they honor the license to keep the data > open. > > I don't look at this as a Yellow pages vs. White pages issue, I think > the two concepts will merge, once we have a digital verification > system in place, That was the magic phrase I didn't dare use (digital verification)... If only PKI was universally available. > as small folks can get access to the same avenues as > big guys. After all, we all have something to sell, whether it our > skills or the stuff in the garage ;-) Sure, once everyone has digital certs, and also access to some registry for roles (like recruiter, travel agent). > > > Besides we need an application to help build the directory and this > one seems to be the easiest to start with, I hope. But that does not > mean all of us need to have a one track focus, Feel free to focus on > any tasks that help the project. I'm not arguing with that. I agree there is value there and that it is a good place to start. Rob > > > Regards, > Ashvil > > _______________________________________________ > Ngoid-dev mailing list > Ngo...@li... > http://lists.sourceforge.net/mailman/listinfo/ngoid-dev |
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