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From: Sam J. <ga...@yh...> - 2002-10-30 02:16:33
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ATTENTION:::::AUTOMATED MAILINGS FROM WIKI UPDATES:::::ATTENTION Hi Everyone, So as people on the devel list will know, Brian and I have recently been making some use of the NeuroGrid Wiki: http://www.neurogrid.net/devwiki/wikipages particularly as regards NeuroGrid Functional Requirements http://www.neurogrid.net/devwiki/wikipages/NeuroGridFunctionalRequirements I don't know how many of you have used Wikis before, but it is proving quite valuable in its immediacy. Normally when reading some html, if you want to comment or query something you have to cut and paste and then mail the text with your comment to the relevant person, if you can work out who that is. With the Wiki, you can press the edit button on the page and directly edit the text, inserting a question or a comment. You might expect that this would lead to chaos with people deleting each others comments, but just this week I connected the wiki up to cvs so everything gets backed up to cvs, so whatever happens, whatever you type in will be preserved (as long as you hit the save button). The advantage of a Wiki over a mailing list is that the text can be restructured and hyperlinks added to make it easier to understand and follow the conversation(s). The disadvantage is that your comment or question can be missed (because it's not mailed to anyone, as it is on a mailing list). However I believe we have just solved that particular downside to the NeuroGrid Wiki, by adding an automated mailing script to the NeuroGrid CVS. There is also a new mailing list to receive these mails, called "neurogrid-cvs". You can subscribe at: http://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/neurogrid-cvs What this means is that whenever anybody commits anything to NeuroGrid CVS, and by extension whenever anybody makes any changes to the Wiki, that a mail detailed the change will be sent to the neurogrid-cvs list. Even if no one else subscribes to the neurogrid-cvs list I will be monitoring it to make sure that any comment or question you make will be responded to. The NeuroGrid Wiki is a Java Wiki created by the people at devtools.org. Naturally it is an open source project, and therefore still under development. I am still having some problems with the colour formats etc., but will try and get those fixed soon (pages in the wiki with black background end up with some weird white table cells in them). Hope to see you all on the Wiki. CHEERS> SAM |
From: Sam J. <ga...@yh...> - 2002-04-18 01:13:56
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Hi Kathleen, Thanks for all your help. Best of luck in all of your endeavours. CHEERS> SAM Kathleen wrote: >Hi Claus and Sam, > >Lately I just seem to have taken on too many responsibilities and I will >need to back out of my involvement in this project. I wish you the best. > >--Kathleen > > >_______________________________________________ >Neurogrid-interface mailing list >Neu...@li... >https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/neurogrid-interface > > |
From: Kathleen <kk...@io...> - 2002-04-17 23:53:05
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Hi Claus and Sam, Lately I just seem to have taken on too many responsibilities and I will need to back out of my involvement in this project. I wish you the best. --Kathleen |
From: Kathleen <kk...@io...> - 2002-04-10 15:20:38
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Okay, I'll get to work on the next page and you could take a look to see how to enhance the graphics and layout. Maybe in a few days . . . On Wed, 10 Apr 2002, Claus Cyrny wrote: > Hi Kathleen, > > Kathleen wrote: > > > > >Thanks loads, Claus. > >^^^^^^^^^^^^ > > > >Best wishes for your speedy recovery! It's been fun > >working with you. > > > Thanks very much! I'm glad to help you. If there is anything I can do in > terms > of graphics & coding, let me know. I still have time now! > > Greetings, > > Claus > > |
From: Kathleen <kk...@io...> - 2002-04-10 13:24:35
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Hi Claus, > > >I've finished a draft of the new wording for the browser configuration web > >page, which is the first of the 3 pages that we are redesigning. It is in > >the template folder and called BrowserConfig4.html. We still need to > >center the graphic > > > What graphic are you referring to? the click_drag graphic. I can fix. > >and eventually use a style sheet that puts a margin on > >the right-hand side. > > > Do you think that this is really necessary? There's so much space left > on the right hand side. Again I can work this part out. Ya know how we have all that space in the layout? Well, the space should be coded using a right margin, instead of all the <br>s that we have been using to size the page. It's a style consideration that could be called a matter of opinion. > >Could you rework the click and drag graphic so that it's text reads "1. > >Click, 2. Hold, 3. Drag" instead of "1. Click, 2. Keep Clicked, 3. Drag"? > > > I've put it in the /graphics/drafts/ directory, under 'click_drag_02b.gif'. Thanks loads, Claus. ^^^^^^^^^^^^ Best wishes for your speedy recovery! It's been fun working with you. --Kath |
From: Kathleen <kk...@io...> - 2002-03-31 19:56:14
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Claus, How are you? I've finished a draft of the new wording for the browser configuration web page, which is the first of the 3 pages that we are redesigning. It is in the template folder and called BrowserConfig4.html. We still need to center the graphic and eventually use a style sheet that puts a margin on the right-hand side. Could you rework the click and drag graphic so that it's text reads "1. Click, 2. Hold, 3. Drag" instead of "1. Click, 2. Keep Clicked, 3. Drag"? Let me know what you think.--Kath |
From: Sam J. <ga...@yh...> - 2002-03-06 06:36:21
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Claus Cyrny wrote: >>>separate templates (I'm just recalling things for myself). Then we were >>>working especially on the lower part of >>>AdvancedEditServlet with the CLICK & DRAG. AFAICR the *last* thing I >>>should have been working on was >>>the illustration for the CLICK & DRAG, and we discussed about making >>>this a pop-up window >>> >> >>I would like to see that graphic. Thought it was a neat idea. >> > See at > ftp://www.neurogrid.net/pub/face/graphics/drafts/click__drag_02.gif. > With JavaScript we > could make this a pop-up window, otherwise I still have to think of a > solution. I think the way round the problem is, as Kathleen suggests, to split the page up into multiple windows that the user experiences one at a time. Thus the first page should present them with the links and the graphic showing how to drag them onto the toolbar. The second page would offer them the option of loading up bookmarks, and then the final page would present their user details. Ideally the first two "processing" pages would only be shown when the user initially creates an account, and would subsequently be accessible by clicking buttons on the UserDetails page. CHEERS> SAM |
From: Claus C. <cc...@fr...> - 2002-03-06 04:01:38
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Sorry, it should have read ftp://www.neurogrid.net/pub/face/graphics/drafts/click_drag_02.gif . Greetings, Claus -- Member of the HTML Writers Guild ******************************************* Weblog: http://www.grafik-tips.org/weblog/ Artikel: http://krit.de/kritlog/ |
From: Claus C. <cc...@fr...> - 2002-03-06 03:48:57
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Hi Kathleen, Kathleen wrote: >Hey again, > > >>I think those were the last templates I was helping Kathleen with. I >>have just bee taking a look at the interface on the >>website. There, AdvancedEditServlet is still *one* template, whereas >>Kathleen suggested splitting this into two >> > >I'd like to rethink what we were doing here. We can still split into 2 or >3, but I want to change what was proposed so far. Give me a few days to >see... > No problem! :-) >>separate templates (I'm just recalling things for myself). Then we were >>working especially on the lower part of >>AdvancedEditServlet with the CLICK & DRAG. AFAICR the *last* thing I >>should have been working on was >>the illustration for the CLICK & DRAG, and we discussed about making >>this a pop-up window >> > >I would like to see that graphic. Thought it was a neat idea. > See at ftp://www.neurogrid.net/pub/face/graphics/drafts/click__drag_02.gif. With JavaScript we could make this a pop-up window, otherwise I still have to think of a solution. Greetings, Claus -- Member of the HTML Writers Guild ******************************************* Weblog: http://www.grafik-tips.org/weblog/ Artikel: http://krit.de/kritlog/ |
From: Kathleen <kk...@io...> - 2002-03-05 23:08:12
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Hey again, > I think those were the last templates I was helping Kathleen with. I > have just bee taking a look at the interface on the > website. There, AdvancedEditServlet is still *one* template, whereas > Kathleen suggested splitting this into two I'd like to rethink what we were doing here. We can still split into 2 or 3, but I want to change what was proposed so far. Give me a few days to see... > separate templates (I'm just recalling things for myself). Then we were > working especially on the lower part of > AdvancedEditServlet with the CLICK & DRAG. AFAICR the *last* thing I > should have been working on was > the illustration for the CLICK & DRAG, and we discussed about making > this a pop-up window I would like to see that graphic. Thought it was a neat idea. Can you describe this would work? Would it be done with Javascript? If so we probably need a non-JS alternative. What would one click to open the window? (btw, I like the > login pop-up window! Shall I make some buttons for it? > > >> > >> have been thinking that it would be good to avoid javascript where > >> possible - many people's browsers are not configured for it. Claus > >> and I were talking about the possibility of two versions, one > >> javascript, one without. Once I did some experimenting with php script that checks to see if Javascript is enabled or not before an html page is rendered. It worked fine in Netscape, but IE required a work around. Sam I agree with you about Javascript. It is disabled by so many folks these days. > > > Yes! > > >> > >> As regards taking a person through the startup process, then there's > >> no reason why that shouldn't involve a servlet bouncing different > >> html templates off the interface. You checked out the code right? > >> Why don't you start looking at NeuroGridAccountServlet and > >> AdvancedEditServlet in com/neurogrid/prime Sure. > > > I could help you on that, if you want to. What shall I do with > SurfingToolBar (basic & andvanced version)? Maybe too much > at a time? Where is the priority right now? > > >> > >> Between them they control the account setup and bookmark loading > >> process - look at the code - ask me questions - seems like a way to > >> start. > >> > >>> Heard from Claus lately? > >>> > >> Yeah - he suffered a computer crash and I think he is just about > >> recovered. He's around. > > > Still there :-)! Later, Kath |
From: Claus C. <cc...@fr...> - 2002-03-05 07:56:17
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Hi Sam & Kathleen! Sam Joseph wrote: >> ... >> Kathleen wrote: ... >> >>> and noticed that we >>> didn't get very far on the interface prcoesses that i was looking into >>> making more intuitive. Are you still interested in doing that? >>> >> Sure > >> >>> It was the >>> new account setup and bookmark uploading. >> I think those were the last templates I was helping Kathleen with. I have just bee taking a look at the interface on the website. There, AdvancedEditServlet is still *one* template, whereas Kathleen suggested splitting this into two separate templates (I'm just recalling things for myself). Then we were working especially on the lower part of AdvancedEditServlet with the CLICK & DRAG. AFAICR the *last* thing I should have been working on was the illustration for the CLICK & DRAG, and we discussed about making this a pop-up window (btw, I like the login pop-up window! Shall I make some buttons for it? >> >> have been thinking that it would be good to avoid javascript where >> possible - many people's browsers are not configured for it. Claus >> and I were talking about the possibility of two versions, one >> javascript, one without. > Yes! >> >> As regards taking a person through the startup process, then there's >> no reason why that shouldn't involve a servlet bouncing different >> html templates off the interface. You checked out the code right? >> Why don't you start looking at NeuroGridAccountServlet and >> AdvancedEditServlet in com/neurogrid/prime > I could help you on that, if you want to. What shall I do with SurfingToolBar (basic & andvanced version)? Maybe too much at a time? Where is the priority right now? >> >> Between them they control the account setup and bookmark loading >> process - look at the code - ask me questions - seems like a way to >> start. >> >>> Heard from Claus lately? >>> >> Yeah - he suffered a computer crash and I think he is just about >> recovered. He's around. > Still there :-)! Greetings, Claus -- Member of the HTML Writers Guild ******************************************* Weblog: http://www.grafik-tips.org/weblog/ Artikel: http://krit.de/kritlog/ |
From: Sam J. <ga...@yh...> - 2002-03-05 01:55:34
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Oops - sent this to neurogrid-simulation first time around .... Sam Joseph wrote: > Hi Kath, > > Kathleen wrote: > >> I've looked at the new interface (cool improvements) >> > Thanks > >> and noticed that we >> didn't get very far on the interface prcoesses that i was looking into >> making more intuitive. Are you still interested in doing that? >> > Sure > >> It was the >> new account setup and bookmark uploading. If so, any thoughts on a >> language for the interface? > > have been thinking that it would be good to avoid javascript where > possible - many people's browsers are not configured for it. Claus and > I were talking about the possibility of two versions, one javascript, > one without. > > As regards taking a person through the startup process, then there's > no reason why that shouldn't involve a servlet bouncing different html > templates off the interface. You checked out the code right? Why > don't you start looking at NeuroGridAccountServlet and > AdvancedEditServlet in com/neurogrid/prime > > Between them they control the account setup and bookmark loading > process - look at the code - ask me questions - seems like a way to > start. > >> Heard from Claus lately? >> > Yeah - he suffered a computer crash and I think he is just about > recovered. He's around. > > Speak soon. > > CHEERS> SAM > > > _______________________________________________ > Neurogrid-simulation mailing list > Neu...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/neurogrid-simulation > > |
From: Claus C. <cc...@fr...> - 2002-01-25 14:10:51
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Hi Sam, I have repeatedly tried to download the new interface from Sourceforge (at least seven or eight times), but either the download was interrupted or stopped altogether for some reason. I would like to know if others have experienced the same! Is the new version available from the NeuroGrid website, too? I have some new ideas regarding the outlook of the interface ... Another thing: Could you do me a favour and increase the delay at the splash screen (until the main page is being loaded)? My graphic is unfortunately not visible until it has loaded completely :-(! Thanks! And regarding my subscription to the lists (both devel & interface): Could you please change my email address to my initial address (cc...@fr...). I gave you the other address just because I was installing Linux then! More soon when I have successfully installed the new interface! Oh yes, and all the best wishes to Kathleen! I'm hoping that all goes well! Greetings, Claus |
From: Sam J. <ga...@yh...> - 2002-01-23 07:46:21
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Hi Claus, The thickness of the sections is much better now, but I think the lighter green doesn't look so good, even if it does make the font easier to read. If possible I think it would be good to try and maintain the same green as the previous version, and just outline the letters in white - maybe that's not possible. Either way keep experimenting, could the font be a little larger? It now looks a little sparse. Don't worry too much about trying to get exactly what I say, what do I know? Feel free to play around with some of your own intuitions. I'm making some progress on the new interface - might even be able to get it into CVS today, fingers crossed. Then we'll be able to test out these things as operational interfaces. More soon. CHEERS> SAM Claus Cyrny wrote: > Hi Sam, > > Sam Joseph wrote: > > > Hi Claus, > > > > I like this. The font is more readable, but a little dark ... > > I agree, and I've made it as light as the green on the other pages. > > > > > I like the shapes of the toolbar, but it's a bit think in comparison with > > the text pane. > > Could it be made a bit thinner? > > I've done that, too! > > > > > Keep up the good work. > > Thanks, I'll do my best! :-) > > For the new design, see at > ftp://www.neurogrid.net/pub/face/graphics/drafts/SurfingToolBar_new2.jpg. > The still visible corners of the bar will be removed. > > Greetings, > > Claus > > > |
From: Sam J. <ga...@yh...> - 2002-01-23 03:43:23
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Hi Claus Claus Cyrny wrote: > after watching a report on sales strategies on TV, I have the idea of giving > the interface a sort of "sensuous" quality to make it more appealing to the > user*. In my point of view, it should be a joy for the user to "play" > with the > interface and its possibilities, not something merely mechanical where the > user just has to push several buttons! What do you think? I think this is good. We want the user to have a *good* experience - however we have to bear in mind that any "sensous" quality should not get in the way of the functionality of the interface - go to far and it's just art for art sake. Not that that is bad, just that I think interface-design has to stay rooted in the functions it is providing to the user. > I also thought > of making the design somewhat asymmetrical, like in no. 2 of my last > suggestion. [* by adding, for example, this emboss effect]. I think asymmetrical is good - although othersmay disagree with me. Ultimately we can offer users "skins" so they can adjust the interface to their own liking. CHEERS> SAM |
From: Sam J. <ga...@yh...> - 2002-01-23 03:37:34
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Hi Claus, I like this. The font is more readable, but a little dark - could we put highlights on it or something - like a surround in white or something? I like the shapes of the toolbar, but it's a bit think in comparison with the text pane. Could it be made a bit thinner? or could the text pane appear within a similar green embossed element? Keep up the good work. CHEERS> SAM Claus Cyrny wrote: > Hi Sam, > > here's a new version I completetd & uploaded just now: > > ftp://www.neurogrid.net/pub/face/graphics/drafts/SurfingToolBar_new.jpg > > What do you think? The buttons could be perhaps somewhat smaller. Maybe > I could change the color somewhat too, in order not to distract too much > from the content of the page (URL's, results of a search, etc.). > > Greetings, > > Claus > > _______________________________________________ > Neurogrid-interface mailing list > Neu...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/neurogrid-interface |
From: Claus C. <cc...@fr...> - 2002-01-22 02:40:32
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Hi Sam, here's a new version I completetd & uploaded just now: ftp://www.neurogrid.net/pub/face/graphics/drafts/SurfingToolBar_new.jpg What do you think? The buttons could be perhaps somewhat smaller. Maybe I could change the color somewhat too, in order not to distract too much from the content of the page (URL's, results of a search, etc.). Greetings, Claus |
From: Claus C. <cc...@fr...> - 2002-01-21 23:45:02
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Hi all (Sam), after watching a report on sales strategies on TV, I have the idea of giving the interface a sort of "sensuous" quality to make it more appealing to the user*. In my point of view, it should be a joy for the user to "play" with the interface and its possibilities, not something merely mechanical where the user just has to push several buttons! What do you think? I also thought of making the design somewhat asymmetrical, like in no. 2 of my last suggestion. [* by adding, for example, this emboss effect]. In addition, I'm thinking of a way to incorporate the "click & drag" graphic or to illustrate this process *somehow*. Greetings, Claus |
From: Kathleen <kk...@io...> - 2002-01-21 15:35:02
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That's a neat observation, Sam. I'll change the text in the template to say click, hold and drag and I think that would better describe the process. Like I mentioned to Claus, I am temporarily without a workstation (even to view Claus' latest designs) until a little later this week and then I am going to be away for several days next weekend. Probably later this week I will be able to do this editing and work on the template for the bookmark uploading page. Then I can take a look at the code that generates the templates for necessary revisions. Is someone still working on the bookmark upload? How is that shaping up? It may effect what the bookmark upload template says.--Kath On Mon, 21 Jan 2002, Sam Joseph wrote: > Ah, one thing I just realised. Users need to click, hold and drag. I know > most people will probably get it right in a couple of tries, but you could > interpret this diagram to mean click and then drag, when what we really want > the user to be doing is clicking down, holding the mouse button down and > dragging the link onto the toolbar. > > Thoughts? > > CHEERS> SAM > > Claus Cyrny wrote: > > > I have improved the graphic you suggested to illustrate the > > click & drag process & have incorporated it into the template. > > > > For a screen capture see at > > > > ftp://www.neurogrid.net/pub/face/graphics/drafts/BrowserConfig2_capture.gif > > > > I have put the small graphic onto a different z-index, and now I'm > > working on how > > to dynamically diplay the graphic if the user, say moves the cursor over > > the 'CLICK > > and DRAG' text. > > > _______________________________________________ > Neurogrid-interface mailing list > Neu...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/neurogrid-interface > |
From: Claus C. <cc...@fr...> - 2002-01-21 13:17:08
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Hi Sam, Sam Joseph wrote: > Hi Claus, > > I think I understand what you are trying to do with the hiding and showing > of the graphic, but I don't understand why you want to hand a parameter to > the style sheet. What extra functionality does handing the paramter to the > style sheet give you? I have put the grapcis onto a different layer, which I'm making either 'visible' or 'hidden'. > In general it would seem easier for us and the user if the graphic was > present all the time no? I mean maybe we should look at examples of both > and show them to people to see which is most easily interpreted. I mean > some people might miss the graphic completely and go on to the next stage > without dragging and dropping right? I have come up with that solution (of showing/hiding) because I thought the graphic wouldn't fit into the overall design of the page. I have thought about where to put it, but I haven't found an adequate solution, so far :-(. Then I thought of a popup window which contains the graphic and which can be closed by the user if he/she doesn't need it anymore. > For general Javascript issues (sorry I haven't understood your specific > problem yet), I often go to either of the following two: > > http://developer.netscape.com/docs/manuals/index.html?content=javascript.html > > http://www.coolnerds.com/jscript/javaref.htm Thanks! > p.s. I'm guessing you solved the problem of dragging and dropping your NG > links onto the Netscape 6 toolbar As to my knowledge, unfortunately not! (I don't know if Kathleen has solved it so far. She was working on it, as far as I have understood this?). In Netscape 4.5 it worked. I have realized that they changed quite a bit in version 6, and not *all* of it is working properly. I experience strange effects sometimes (not with the interface), so it *may* be a bug??? I am only able to drag a link to 'Home' in the toolbar! |
From: Sam J. <ga...@yh...> - 2002-01-21 11:19:43
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Hi Claus, Actually I really like the design of the middle one, number 2. I like the embossing. I like the different style shape I'm not sure where you'll put the buttons on this middle one, but I don't think its a problem if we have a more complex shape to the toolbar itself. I mean I guess we might end up using image maps to place the buttons whereever we want. I think that I am slightly more worried about the font. I like the font, and I know that you and I can easily read it, but that's partly because we know what the words are. I think it's fine for the shape of the toolbar to be artistically complex, the really important thing is that looking at the words and the buttons, that it should be obvious what they do and what the words are. I'm not saying change the font, as it's probably okay, but just bare that in mind, and maybe have some other backup fonts ready so that once we've got the system live we can perhaps demo 2 or 3 different interfaces and ask NeuroGrid users which they prefer? Keep going with the design, I'll try and have the backend working as soon as I can - I have a deadline for this Friday, so I don't have a lot of time this week, but I'll see what I can do. More soon. CHEERS> SAM Claus Cyrny wrote: > Hi Sam, > > I have here a draft of three different versions for the new > SurfingToolbar (basic options) > and would like to know, which one do you prefer? I'm not quite sure! > Since you said that > the design shouldn't be too complex, maybe no. 1 would be the choice, > but I stumbled onto > a cool emboss effect which looks good, either. :) > > The URL is > ftp://www.neurogrid.net/pub/face/graphics/drafts/SurfingToolBar_basic.jpg. > > Greetings, > > Claus > > _______________________________________________ > Neurogrid-interface mailing list > Neu...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/neurogrid-interface |
From: Sam J. <ga...@yh...> - 2002-01-21 11:13:25
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Ah, one thing I just realised. Users need to click, hold and drag. I know most people will probably get it right in a couple of tries, but you could interpret this diagram to mean click and then drag, when what we really want the user to be doing is clicking down, holding the mouse button down and dragging the link onto the toolbar. Thoughts? CHEERS> SAM Claus Cyrny wrote: > I have improved the graphic you suggested to illustrate the > click & drag process & have incorporated it into the template. > > For a screen capture see at > > ftp://www.neurogrid.net/pub/face/graphics/drafts/BrowserConfig2_capture.gif > > I have put the small graphic onto a different z-index, and now I'm > working on how > to dynamically diplay the graphic if the user, say moves the cursor over > the 'CLICK > and DRAG' text. |
From: Sam J. <ga...@yh...> - 2002-01-21 11:09:31
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Hi Claus, I think I understand what you are trying to do with the hiding and showing of the graphic, but I don't understand why you want to hand a parameter to the style sheet. What extra functionality does handing the paramter to the style sheet give you? In general it would seem easier for us and the user if the graphic was present all the time no? I mean maybe we should look at examples of both and show them to people to see which is most easily interpreted. I mean some people might miss the graphic completely and go on to the next stage without dragging and dropping right? For general Javascript issues (sorry I haven't understood your specific problem yet), I often go to either of the following two: http://developer.netscape.com/docs/manuals/index.html?content=javascript.html http://www.coolnerds.com/jscript/javaref.htm CHEERS> SAM p.s. I'm guessing you solved the problem of dragging and dropping your NG links onto the Netscape 6 toolbar - did you discover what the cause of the problem was? Claus Cyrny wrote: > I have a short question regarding JavaScript. The problem I'm facing is, > how to dynamically change a parameter in the style sheels code using > JavaScript. I want to use a OnMouseOver event handler for this. The task > will be, to dynamically show or hide a graphic to illustrate the click & > drag process. I haven't worked with JavaScript much, so far. I *know* > basically how to do it, but I haven't found the proper syntax yet. > > What I am trying to accomplish is > > 1.) to make a link from a certain text ('CLICK and DRAG') (this alone > would be no problem) > > 2.) to incorporate both a OnMouseOver & a OnMouseOut event handler into > this text > > 3.) to somehow hand over the parameter 'hidden' or 'visible' to the > style sheets code. > > I'm stuck especially with part 3. Do you know a solution there? |
From: Sam J. <ga...@yh...> - 2002-01-21 11:00:29
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Hi Claus and Kathleen, This looks great guys, just what I was thinking of. CHEERS> SAM Claus Cyrny wrote: > I have improved the graphic you suggested to illustrate the > click & drag process & have incorporated it into the template. > > For a screen capture see at > > ftp://www.neurogrid.net/pub/face/graphics/drafts/BrowserConfig2_capture.gif > > I have put the small graphic onto a different z-index, and now I'm > working on how > to dynamically diplay the graphic if the user, say moves the cursor over > the 'CLICK > and DRAG' text. |
From: Claus C. <cc...@fr...> - 2002-01-20 23:37:00
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Hi Sam, I have here a draft of three different versions for the new SurfingToolbar (basic options) and would like to know, which one do you prefer? I'm not quite sure! Since you said that the design shouldn't be too complex, maybe no. 1 would be the choice, but I stumbled onto a cool emboss effect which looks good, either. :) The URL is ftp://www.neurogrid.net/pub/face/graphics/drafts/SurfingToolBar_basic.jpg. Greetings, Claus |