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From: Nick J. <ni...@na...> - 2000-10-27 20:54:50
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On Fri, Oct 27, 2000 at 09:27:16AM -0700, Wes Hardaker wrote: > > Nick> My question is, that recently someone sent me a "MIB" for a > Nick> cisco router that he wants me to support, the MIB is a text file > Nick> with what seems to be like some proprietary MIB scripting > Nick> language, here's an exerpt: > > Nick> router OBJECT IDENTIFIER ::= { products 2 } > Nick> snIpx OBJECT IDENTIFIER ::= { router 1 } > ... > > It's not a proprietary scripting language, but it does look like a > "stripped down" version of a mib. > I've attache dthe full MIB i received (its for a foundry router). > Nick> my question is, is this in fact some scripting language and in > Nick> order to "drop in" MIBs i need to develop a parser to read this > Nick> kind of stuff? > > The parser can probably read it if you munge it a bit to include at > least the standard parts (The BEGIN and IMPORT statements, for > example). > please tell me what "the parser" is, this is where I am confused, does net-snmp provide an importing feature to support 3rd party mib's? or are you reffering to if i made a parser? > See the FAQ for information about loading the textual mibs into the > tools so they'll attempt to parse them. > what does this do? what does parsing the mib do? then what functionality comes from that? im just confused as to how I will snmpwalk this router with the foundry MIB, which i need to be able to execute like : snmpwalk <ip> <community> <mib_name> and then, how will I look at the returned values and know what they all mean etc. I think i am asking the wrong questions cause i am dealing with an area of SNMP implimentation that is new to me (incorporating 3rd party mibs, knowing how to understand what they mean, knowing what to do with mib files etc, all new to me). perhaps a more general description of how this all ties into net-snmp, and how to do what im trying to do with it? -- - Nick Jennings Email: ni...@na... Web : http://nick.namodn.com - |
From: Wes H. <wjh...@uc...> - 2000-10-27 16:27:22
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>>>>> On Wed, 25 Oct 2000 17:12:24 -0700, Nick Jennings <ni...@na...> said: Nick> I have developed a network monitoring program and am using SNMP Nick> as one of the primary monitoring tools. Currently just mib-2 and Nick> ucd are supported (as they come with UCD-SNMP, (or now NET-SNMP Nick> even though it now doesn't ryhme)). NET-SNMP actually does ryhme if you spell out the "N E T". But who would want to do that? :-) Nick> My question is, that recently someone sent me a "MIB" for a Nick> cisco router that he wants me to support, the MIB is a text file Nick> with what seems to be like some proprietary MIB scripting Nick> language, here's an exerpt: Nick> router OBJECT IDENTIFIER ::= { products 2 } Nick> snIpx OBJECT IDENTIFIER ::= { router 1 } ... It's not a proprietary scripting language, but it does look like a "stripped down" version of a mib. Nick> my question is, is this in fact some scripting language and in Nick> order to "drop in" MIBs i need to develop a parser to read this Nick> kind of stuff? The parser can probably read it if you munge it a bit to include at least the standard parts (The BEGIN and IMPORT statements, for example). See the FAQ for information about loading the textual mibs into the tools so they'll attempt to parse them. -- Wes Hardaker Information Resources University of California at Davis |
From: Dave S. <D.T...@cs...> - 2000-10-26 14:26:53
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> what sort of value would I have to send in order that the user > requesting a variable actually receives 26-Jun-2000. > field octets contents range > ----- ------ -------- ----- > 1 1 day 1..31 > 2 2-5 month Jan-Dec > 3 6 year 0..65536 Well, the first octet needs to contain the day number - i.e. 26 The next three octets contain the three characters of the month string i.e. 'J' 'u' 'n' And the final two octets contain the year number - i.e. 2000 (BTW - I think the definition is wrong - it probably ought to read > field octets contents range > ----- ------ -------- ----- > 1 1 day 1..31 > 2 2-4 month Jan-Dec > 3 5-6 year 0..65536 ) So that means the variable value should contain the six octets: 26 74 117 110 7 208 Note that ascii 74 is 'J', ascii 117 is 'u', ascii 110 is 'n' and 7*256+208 = 2000 > Would an SNMP > Manager use MIB file and the DISPLAY-HINT clause to format the > actual output on the management console screen ? Yes. [Percent D-S snipped] > Would it be possible to use this so I can say send a value of 5367, and > the DISPLAY-HINT would format it as 53.67. Yes. Exactly right. Dave |
From: <Igo...@vf...> - 2000-10-26 10:58:56
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Hi, I have 2 questions regarding textual conventions, for example if I define an SNMP object to be of type DateString (as defined here), what sort of value would I have to send in order that the user requesting a variable actually receives 26-Jun-2000. Would an SNMP Manager use MIB file and the DISPLAY-HINT clause to format the actual output on the management console screen ? DateString ::= TEXTUAL-CONVENTION DISPLAY-HINT "1d-3a-2d" STATUS current DESCRIPTION "Date specification as delimited octet strings. The strings are converted as follows: field octets contents range ----- ------ -------- ----- 1 1 day 1..31 2 2-5 month Jan-Dec 3 6 year 0..65536 For example, Monday 26th June, 2000 at 13:30 would be displayed as: 26-Jun-2000" SYNTAX OCTET STRING (SIZE (6)) Other question is regarding following textual convention Percent ::= TEXTUAL-CONVENTION DISPLAY-HINT "d-2" STATUS current DESCRIPTION "Ratio expressed as an integer, formatted so that decimal point makes it into a real number with 2 decimal places. For example, integer 5367 will be rendered as 53.67" SYNTAX INTEGER (0..10000) Would it be possible to use this so I can say send a value of 5367, and the DISPLAY-HINT would format it as 53.67. Thank you, Igor Naumovski |
From: Nick J. <ni...@na...> - 2000-10-25 23:55:45
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hi, I have developed a network monitoring program and am using SNMP as one of the primary monitoring tools. Currently just mib-2 and ucd are supported (as they come with UCD-SNMP, (or now NET-SNMP even though it now doesn't ryhme)). My question is, that recently someone sent me a "MIB" for a cisco router that he wants me to support, the MIB is a text file with what seems to be like some proprietary MIB scripting language, here's an exerpt: *** CLIP *** router OBJECT IDENTIFIER ::= { products 2 } snIpx OBJECT IDENTIFIER ::= { router 1 } snIp OBJECT IDENTIFIER ::= { router 2 } snRip OBJECT IDENTIFIER ::= { router 3 } snOspf OBJECT IDENTIFIER ::= { router 4 } snDvmrp OBJECT IDENTIFIER ::= { router 5 } snIgmp OBJECT IDENTIFIER ::= { router 6 } snFsrp OBJECT IDENTIFIER ::= { router 7 } snGblRt OBJECT IDENTIFIER ::= { router 8 } snPim OBJECT IDENTIFIER ::= { router 9 } snAppleTalk OBJECT IDENTIFIER ::= { router 10 } snBgp4 OBJECT IDENTIFIER ::= { router 11 } snVrrp OBJECT IDENTIFIER ::= { router 12 } snLoopbackIf OBJECT IDENTIFIER ::= { router 13 } snPOS OBJECT IDENTIFIER ::= { router 14 } registration OBJECT IDENTIFIER ::= { products 3 } -- Stackable products snFastIron OBJECT IDENTIFIER ::= { registration 1 } snFIWGSwitch OBJECT IDENTIFIER ::= { snFastIron 1 } snFIBBSwitch OBJECT IDENTIFIER ::= { snFastIron 2 } snNetIron OBJECT IDENTIFIER ::= { registration 2 } snNIRouter OBJECT IDENTIFIER ::= { snNetIron 1 } snServerIron OBJECT IDENTIFIER ::= { registration 3 } snSI OBJECT IDENTIFIER ::= { snServerIron 1 } snSIXL OBJECT IDENTIFIER ::= { snServerIron 2 } *** CLIP *** my question is, is this in fact some scripting language and in order to "drop in" MIBs i need to develop a parser to read this kind of stuff? The way I do it for mib-2 and ucd is I have a perl script run through an snmpwalk and parse the value's according to static logic I set up individually for each MIB (I have some books that explain each value of mib-2 and ucd) I don't have such a reference for these other 3rd party MIBs and am not savy enough to look at the above example and know what to do with it. can someone please clear up for me the standard ways in which developers support 3rd party mibs etc? -- - Nick Jennings Email: ni...@na... Web : http://nick.namodn.com - |
From: Antony T. N. <an...@sc...> - 2000-10-25 21:17:11
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On Wed, Oct 25, 2000 at 02:14:03PM -0700, Antony Thien Nguyen wrote: > So anyway, cooking up something like this is pretty straightforward. RRDTool > is a really neat tool to use if you want to see any kind of value over time > (in fact, the latest version uses RRDtool as the db and graphing engine)... Ack - that should read: (in fact, the latest version *of MRTG* uses RRDtool as the db and graphing engine)... > the hardest part (and it's not really that hard) is feeding it values; with > net-snmp at your disposal and some shell/perl/python hackery, there's not much > difficulty to it. > > Good luck, > Tony > > Systems Engineer @ Scour, Inc. > > > > > > -- > > Stan Brown st...@aw... 843-745-3154 > > Charleston SC. > > -- > > Windows 98: n. > > useless extension to a minor patch release for 32-bit extensions and > > a graphical shell for a 16-bit patch to an 8-bit operating system > > originally coded for a 4-bit microprocessor, written by a 2-bit > > company that can't stand for 1 bit of competition. > > - > > (c) 2000 Stan Brown. Redistribution via the Microsoft Network is prohibited. > > ----- End forwarded message ----- |
From: Antony T. N. <an...@sc...> - 2000-10-25 21:11:14
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On Wed, Oct 25, 2000 at 03:56:12PM -0400, Stan Brown wrote: > I hope this is the correct forim to aks this. > > I have just set up MRTG to agther traffic statistics on some of our > routersm and systems. > > Now it appears to me, that I ought to be able to use SNMP to collect other > stats for MRTG as well. I would like to collect the following: > > 1. CPU load > 2. memory usage > 3. Disk usage. > 4. No. of processes running Most of these items are located in the Host resources MIB. You can also add your own OIDs that trigger shell or perl scripts that can report back any data that you wish. Check the man page for more details. > > Etc. Can someone point me to a starting place on this? I've developed a small and simple in-house system that uses ucd^H^H^Hnet-snmp and rrdtool (http://ee-staff.ethz.ch/~oetiker/webtools/rrdtool/) to graph values that you've mentioned - it uses mysql to store immediate values and thresholds, and perl to glue it alltogether. I get pages when certain thresholds are met/exceeded. Unfortunately, I don't think there is a package like this that has been 'productized' enough to be used in a general fashion. If I have free time (don't count on it :), I may try to fix it up and release it publically. Actually, there is ORCA (http://www.gps.caltech.edu/~blair/orca/) - the last time I looked at it, it was tailored for Solaris and didn't use any kind of snmp service... that may have changed by now, so you should probably take a look. So anyway, cooking up something like this is pretty straightforward. RRDTool is a really neat tool to use if you want to see any kind of value over time (in fact, the latest version uses RRDtool as the db and graphing engine)... the hardest part (and it's not really that hard) is feeding it values; with net-snmp at your disposal and some shell/perl/python hackery, there's not much difficulty to it. Good luck, Tony Systems Engineer @ Scour, Inc. > > -- > Stan Brown st...@aw... 843-745-3154 > Charleston SC. > -- > Windows 98: n. > useless extension to a minor patch release for 32-bit extensions and > a graphical shell for a 16-bit patch to an 8-bit operating system > originally coded for a 4-bit microprocessor, written by a 2-bit > company that can't stand for 1 bit of competition. > - > (c) 2000 Stan Brown. Redistribution via the Microsoft Network is prohibited. |
From: der.hans <snmp-quatsch@LuftHans.com> - 2000-10-25 10:15:03
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Am 25. Oct, 2000 schwäzte Dave Shield so: > The OBJECT-TYPE macro is indeed internally defined, so isn't normally > needed - but it shouldn't break anything. In fact, being picky about > things, this definition *is* needed to form a legal MIB, even though > most parsers will cope without it. Note that the "standard" MIB-2 > definition (RFC1213) does import OBJECT-TYPE from RFC-1212, and our > tools are quite happy with this. > > Can you be a bit more specific about what's failing. Me :). Actually, I was having problems getting descriptions and other data for an OID. Those were due to my not understanding how everything works. I've fixed the first part and am still working on the second :). During my investigations I was running into a parser error complaining that RFC1212-MIB.txt wasn't available, which it's not since I don't have it. While searching for it, in order to find out if I needed it, I came across the post from Niels. Presuming he was correct I wanted to make sure I understood what I was seeing prior to asking the vendor to fix their MIBs :). I have found a copy of the MIB, ftp://ftp.gwdg.de/pub/linux/misc/argus/mibs/rfcs/rfc1212.mib.gz. I don't believe it hurts anything to throw it in there. Am I correct? Should the net-snmp (pfkaus[1]) package include it? danke, der.hans [1] project formerly known as ucd-snmp :). That acronym has a cool pronunciation in German :). -- # der.hans@LuftHans.com home.pages.de/~lufthans/ www.Opnix.com # I chose to use the kernel sources as my documentation. ;-) -- Kevin Buettner |
From: Dave S. <D.T...@cs...> - 2000-10-25 08:39:30
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> In a post[1] several months ago Niels, who from what I can see has been > posting good answers, says that importing from RFC1212 is probably an > error. Far be it from me to disagree with my illustrious colleague, but I think this is overstating things slightly. > Neils' post says the OBJECT-TYPE macro is internally defined by MIB > parsers, so I'd think we don't need that :). Does it break anything? The OBJECT-TYPE macro is indeed internally defined, so isn't normally needed - but it shouldn't break anything. In fact, being picky about things, this definition *is* needed to form a legal MIB, even though most parsers will cope without it. Note that the "standard" MIB-2 definition (RFC1213) does import OBJECT-TYPE from RFC-1212, and our tools are quite happy with this. Can you be a bit more specific about what's failing. Dave |
From: der.hans <snmp-quatsch@LuftHans.com> - 2000-10-25 03:38:08
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moin, moin, I'm farily new to SNMP, but appear to have run into an error in a vendor's MIB and wanted to doublecheck that I'm correct before asking them to fix it :). In a post[1] several months ago Niels, who from what I can see has been posting good answers, says that importing from RFC1212 is probably an error. The following leads me to believe that this vendor is importing from RFC1212: -- Imports IMPORTS TimeTicks, IpAddress, Counter, Gauge FROM RFC1155-SMI OBJECT-TYPE FROM RFC-1212 snChassis, snAgentSys, snStack FROM FOUNDRY-SN-ROOT-MIB; Neils' post says the OBJECT-TYPE macro is internally defined by MIB parsers, so I'd think we don't need that :). Does it break anything? danke, der.hans [1] http://ucd-snmp.ucdavis.edu/ucd-snmp-coders/2000-05/0015.html -- # der.hans@LuftHans.com home.pages.de/~lufthans/ www.Opnix.com # C'est la Net - der.hans |
From: Wes H. <wjh...@uc...> - 2000-10-24 18:08:37
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>>>>> On Fri, 20 Oct 2000 10:35:52 +0300, pky <pk...@mo...> said: pky> LGPL is a little bit better (~ decent) approach. Which is what I'd prefer if it didn't have the term "library" written all through it. -- Wes Hardaker Information Resources University of California at Davis |
From: jl <li...@bo...> - 2000-10-24 01:07:21
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From: pky <pk...@mo...> - 2000-10-20 07:36:07
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At 10:35 PM 10/19/00 -0700, chuck yerkes wrote: >Um, lawyers at the Univ California Regents Board or Richard >Stallman and co. (BSD and GPL respectively). Is this now History >that people don't know? At 10:35 PM 10/19/00 -0700, you wrote: >Um, lawyers at the Univ California Regents Board or Richard >Stallman and co. (BSD and GPL respectively). Is this now History >that people don't know? GPL is totally unusable for PD software. Too many possibilities for greedy lawyers (amounts to about 99% from all of the business lawyers). LGPL is a little bit better (~ decent) approach. PKY |
From: chuck y. <ch...@sn...> - 2000-10-20 05:36:34
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Um, lawyers at the Univ California Regents Board or Richard Stallman and co. (BSD and GPL respectively). Is this now History that people don't know? Quoting Pekala David-p30198 (Dav...@mo...): > Does anyone know exactly who wrote the BSD License or GPL? I want to ask > them about the source code question this person had. > > Thanks! > Dave > > -----Original Message----- > From: Wes Hardaker [mailto:wjh...@uc...] > Sent: Thursday, October 19, 2000 8:11 AM > To: Gordon Shiao > Cc: wjh...@uc...; net...@li... > Subject: Re: ANNOUNCEMENT: ucd-snmp is moving! > > > >>>>> On Thu, 19 Oct 2000 14:47:37 GMT, "Gordon Shiao" > <tig...@ho...> said: |
From: Igor S. <ish...@pl...> - 2000-10-19 20:40:55
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On 19 Oct 2000, Frank Strauss wrote: > Igor> I have a question about mib writing. > Igor> Is it correct to use OBJECT-TYPE macro to define a branch? > Igor> The problem is that I'd like to add descriptions to some of the branches > Igor> in my MIB but I do not know how to add DESCRIPTION clause to it if it is > Igor> not OBJECT-TYPE. I could use MODULE-IDENTITY macro but I'm not sure if > Igor> it's only applicable to the topmost branch in my MIB. > > Although, in most MIB modules a simple OBJECT IDENTIFIER assignment is > used for this purpose (which does not have the capability to apply > status, description, and reference information), you may consider to > use the OBJECT-IDENTITY construct. See Section 6 of RFC 2578 for > details. It says that > Frank, thanks a lot!!! OBJECT-IDENTITY gives exactly the solution we needed! E.g. it allowes DESCRIPTION and REFERENCE clauses and can be used for branches. Regards, Igor -- Igor Shpigelman There is no dervish, or, if there is a dervish Yet Another UNIX Hacker that dervish is not there... Jelaluddin Rumi |
From: Pekala David-p. <Dav...@mo...> - 2000-10-19 18:40:20
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Does anyone know exactly who wrote the BSD License or GPL? I want to ask them about the source code question this person had. Thanks! Dave -----Original Message----- From: Wes Hardaker [mailto:wjh...@uc...] Sent: Thursday, October 19, 2000 8:11 AM To: Gordon Shiao Cc: wjh...@uc...; net...@li... Subject: Re: ANNOUNCEMENT: ucd-snmp is moving! >>>>> On Thu, 19 Oct 2000 14:47:37 GMT, "Gordon Shiao" <tig...@ho...> said: Gordon> but what does "true BSD style license" means? should i pay some Gordon> royalty fee or license free No. Gordon> do i have to publish my source code after i port it? No. It's functionally equivalent to the current license. There are example BSD licenses under the sourceforge docs, or you can wait a few days till I get everything in place... -- Wes Hardaker Information Resources University of California at Davis _______________________________________________ Net-snmp-users mailing list Net...@li... http://lists.sourceforge.net/mailman/listinfo/net-snmp-users |
From: Frank S. <st...@ib...> - 2000-10-19 17:25:44
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Igor> I have a question about mib writing. Igor> Is it correct to use OBJECT-TYPE macro to define a branch? Igor> The problem is that I'd like to add descriptions to some of the branches Igor> in my MIB but I do not know how to add DESCRIPTION clause to it if it is Igor> not OBJECT-TYPE. I could use MODULE-IDENTITY macro but I'm not sure if Igor> it's only applicable to the topmost branch in my MIB. Although, in most MIB modules a simple OBJECT IDENTIFIER assignment is used for this purpose (which does not have the capability to apply status, description, and reference information), you may consider to use the OBJECT-IDENTITY construct. See Section 6 of RFC 2578 for details. It says that The OBJECT-IDENTITY macro is used to define information about an OBJECT IDENTIFIER assignment. Hence, it satisfies your requirements. In my opinion the following text: [...] All administrative OBJECT IDENTIFIER assignments which define a type identification value ([...]) should be defined via the OBJECT-IDENTITY macro. [...] is just an example, and not the exclusive use-case for the OBJECT-IDENTITY clause. At least this is the way I can interpret the specification. Within all the current 150 MIBs published as RFCs I could find only 5 OBJECT-IDENTITY definitions that are no leaf nodes: ATM-ACCOUNTING-INFORMATION-MIB::atmAcctngDataObjects DNS-SERVER-MIB::dns Printer-MIB::printerV1Alert RADIUS-ACC-CLIENT-MIB::radiusMIB RMON-MIB::rmonEventsV2 But I assume, these usages are absolutely legal. I would appreciate comments from others - maybe the SMIv2 specs authors - on this question (Cc'ed to the mibs mailing list). |
From: Igor L. <il...@pl...> - 2000-10-19 15:19:22
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I have a question about mib writing. Is it correct to use OBJECT-TYPE macro to define a branch? The problem is that I'd like to add descriptions to some of the branches in my MIB but I do not know how to add DESCRIPTION clause to it if it is not OBJECT-TYPE. I could use MODULE-IDENTITY macro but I'm not sure if it's only applicable to the topmost branch in my MIB. Thanks in advance, cheers, Igor |
From: Wes H. <wjh...@uc...> - 2000-10-19 15:10:39
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>>>>> On Thu, 19 Oct 2000 14:47:37 GMT, "Gordon Shiao" <tig...@ho...> said: Gordon> but what does "true BSD style license" means? should i pay some Gordon> royalty fee or license free No. Gordon> do i have to publish my source code after i port it? No. It's functionally equivalent to the current license. There are example BSD licenses under the sourceforge docs, or you can wait a few days till I get everything in place... -- Wes Hardaker Information Resources University of California at Davis |
From: Gordon S. <tig...@ho...> - 2000-10-19 14:47:48
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I'm porting net-snmp to our commercial set-top-box, the UCD-snmp is totally free,it's easy to understand for me and our lawyer. but what does "true BSD style license" means? should i pay some royalty fee or license free, do i have to publish my source code after i port it? Please help me out since this is really important to our ongoing porting project. Thanks, Gordon >From: Wes Hardaker <wjh...@uc...> >To: "Gordon Shiao" <tig...@ho...> >CC: net...@li... >Subject: Re: ANNOUNCEMENT: ucd-snmp is moving! >Date: 18 Oct 2000 19:40:03 -0700 > > >>>>> On Wed, 18 Oct 2000 20:22:10 GMT, "Gordon Shiao" ><tig...@ho...> said: > >Gordon> After the move, is there any change for COPYING or License >Gordon> issue with regards to net-snmp? Will net-snmp be adding some >Gordon> business&commercial content? > >Yes there will be a small licensing change. It will probably change >to a true BSD style license but that shouldn't functionally affect >anyone as far as using the code. > >The project is still remaining on open-source project. > >-- >Wes Hardaker >Please mail all replies to ucd...@uc.... _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. |
From: <rud...@ph...> - 2000-10-19 10:08:20
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Hi all, Under Linux the agent correctly detects the different ethernet interfaces in the systems. Not correctly reported is the speed. I would like a way to tell the agent the speed of the interfaces. The questions now are: 1. Is it possible for the agent to detect the ethernet speed? 2. Has somebody already got a solution to this? 3. a possible solution: adding a speed statement to snmpd.conf like: 'ifSpeed eth0 10Mbit' or 'ifSpeed eth1 100Mbit' or something akin. Afraid i'm no longer a programmer and quit filled in my time.... Want to use this in conjunction with MRTG to get a good idea of network load on several machines. Anyone? regards, Rudy Zijlstra Philips DVS PS Wildfire Test & Integratie +32 11 306759 |
From: Wes H. <wjh...@uc...> - 2000-10-19 02:40:06
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>>>>> On Wed, 18 Oct 2000 20:22:10 GMT, "Gordon Shiao" <tig...@ho...> said: Gordon> After the move, is there any change for COPYING or License Gordon> issue with regards to net-snmp? Will net-snmp be adding some Gordon> business&commercial content? Yes there will be a small licensing change. It will probably change to a true BSD style license but that shouldn't functionally affect anyone as far as using the code. The project is still remaining on open-source project. -- Wes Hardaker Please mail all replies to ucd...@uc.... |
From: jl <li...@bo...> - 2000-10-19 01:39:57
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