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From: Karl W. <ka...@wa...> - 2006-08-17 13:36:58
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I am using NDoc2-alpha3u (apparently the latest alpha), and it seems to work fine for me. However, the MSDN-Web output only works in Internet Explorer. It seems that the main culprit is the "ndoc.js" JavaScript file which produces lots of exceptions in FireFox. Has anyone figured out a way to make it work in FireFox? Karl |
From: <ka...@wa...> - 2006-07-28 16:44:34
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> I presume many of you have seen this... > I completely understand him. However, I never noticed the $5 request, since I would have honored it, as I have donated to OS projects in the past. Anyway, Kevin apparently has not released any of the NDOC 2.0 source he wrote so far. So, nobody really can continue his current work. This is quite unfortunate. Karl |
From: Mark I. <mi...@so...> - 2006-07-28 11:54:50
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Sandcastle is Microsoft's in-house documentation compiler that they have been using for the .NET Framework help. http://blogs.microsoft.com/sandcastle - that blog site got setup yesterday after an influx of people starting requesting information via the forums. =20 I'm sure the increased user base in the last 24 hours is partly due to the email we received yesterday. I personally had never heard of Sandcastle till then. =20 =20 From: ndo...@li... [mailto:ndo...@li...] On Behalf Of Tim Mulholland Sent: 28 July 2006 12:46 To: ndo...@li... Subject: Re: [ndoc-devel] FW: NDoc 2.0 - R.I.P. =20 Well, I think I can state for all of us who were patiently awaiting 2.0 that this stinks... But whatchagonnado? =20 Anyone want to clue me in to what Sandcastle is? =20 From: ndo...@li... [mailto:ndo...@li...] On Behalf Of Mark Ingram Sent: Thursday, July 27, 2006 4:31 AM To: ndo...@li... Subject: [ndoc-devel] FW: NDoc 2.0 - R.I.P. =20 I presume many of you have seen this... =20 =20 =20 From: Kevin Downs [mailto:nd...@kd...]=20 Sent: 26 July 2006 18:32 To: nd...@kd... Subject: NDoc 2.0 - R.I.P. =20 I have decided to discontinue work on NDoc 2.0 and no longer participate in any open-source development work. =20 The development and release of NDoc 1.3 was a huge amount of work, and by all accounts widely appreciated. Unfortunately, despite the almost ubiquitous use of NDoc, there has been no support for the project from the .Net developer community either financially or by development contributions. Since 1.3 was released, there have been the grand total of eleven donations to the project. In fact, were it not for Oleg Tkachenko's kind donation of a MS MVP MSDN subscription, I would not even have a copy of VS2005 to work with!=20 =20 To put this into perspective, if only roughly 1-in-10 of the those who downloaded NDoc had donated the minimum allowable amount of $5 then I could have worked on NDoc 2.0 full-time and it could have been released months ago! Now, I am not suggesting that this should have occurred, or that anyone owes me anything for the work I have done, rather I am trying to demonstrate that if the community values open-source projects then it should do *something* to support them. MS has for years acknowledged community contributions via the MVP program but there is absolutely no support for community projects. =20 Once 'Sandcastle' is released, it is my belief that it will become the de-facto standard and that NDoc will slowly become a stagnant side-water. This will happen regardless of technical considerations, even if Sandcastle were to be less feature-complete. It's just an inevitable result of MS's 'not-invented-here' mentality, one only has to look at Nant and NUnit to see the effects of MS 'competition'. =20 =20 This is not, however, my only reason for stopping development work - I have a big enough ego to think I could still produce a better product than them :-) =20 As some of you are aware, there are some in the community who believe that a .Net 2.0 compatible release was theirs by-right and that I should be moving faster - despite the fact that I am but one man working in his spare time... =20 This came to head in the last week; I have been subjected to an automated mail-bomb attack on both my public mail addresses and the ndoc2 mailing list address. These mails have been extremely offensive and resulted in my ISP temporarily suspending my account because of the traffic volume. This incident has been reported to the local authorities, although I am highly doubtful they will be able to do anything about it. =20 This has was the 'last-straw' and has convinced me that I should withdraw from the community; I'm not prepared to have myself and my family threatened by some lunatic! =20 =20 Kevin =20 =20 P.S. If anyone wants to take over as admin on the SourceForge NDoc project - contact me. If not, I'll be removing myself in 14 days. |
From: Owen B. <ow...@bl...> - 2006-07-28 11:52:44
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Tim Mulholland wrote (2006-07-28 T 07:45 -0400): > > Well, I think I can state for all of us who were patiently awaiting > 2.0 that this stinks. But whatchagonnado? Absolutely. Though all is not lost, according to my reading of http://forums.microsoft.com/MSDN/ShowPost.aspx?PostID=555967&SiteID=1 , which might have someone taking over the adminship of the groups. > Anyone want to clue me in to what Sandcastle is? http://blogs.msdn.com/sandcastle/ has (a little) more info. Google is your Friend(TM) ;o) Owen -- Owen Blacker, London GB Say no to ID cards: www.no2id.net Get your mits off my bits: www.openrightsgroup.org -- Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety -- Benjamin Franklin, 1759 |
From: Tim M. <ti...@tl...> - 2006-07-28 11:46:27
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Well, I think I can state for all of us who were patiently awaiting 2.0 that this stinks. But whatchagonnado? Anyone want to clue me in to what Sandcastle is? From: ndo...@li... [mailto:ndo...@li...] On Behalf Of Mark Ingram Sent: Thursday, July 27, 2006 4:31 AM To: ndo...@li... Subject: [ndoc-devel] FW: NDoc 2.0 - R.I.P. I presume many of you have seen this. From: Kevin Downs [mailto:nd...@kd...] Sent: 26 July 2006 18:32 To: nd...@kd... Subject: NDoc 2.0 - R.I.P. I have decided to discontinue work on NDoc 2.0 and no longer participate in any open-source development work. The development and release of NDoc 1.3 was a huge amount of work, and by all accounts widely appreciated. Unfortunately, despite the almost ubiquitous use of NDoc, there has been no support for the project from the .Net developer community either financially or by development contributions. Since 1.3 was released, there have been the grand total of eleven donations to the project. In fact, were it not for Oleg Tkachenko's kind donation of a MS MVP MSDN subscription, I would not even have a copy of VS2005 to work with! To put this into perspective, if only roughly 1-in-10 of the those who downloaded NDoc had donated the minimum allowable amount of $5 then I could have worked on NDoc 2.0 full-time and it could have been released months ago! Now, I am not suggesting that this should have occurred, or that anyone owes me anything for the work I have done, rather I am trying to demonstrate that if the community values open-source projects then it should do *something* to support them. MS has for years acknowledged community contributions via the MVP program but there is absolutely no support for community projects. Once 'Sandcastle' is released, it is my belief that it will become the de-facto standard and that NDoc will slowly become a stagnant side-water. This will happen regardless of technical considerations, even if Sandcastle were to be less feature-complete. It's just an inevitable result of MS's 'not-invented-here' mentality, one only has to look at Nant and NUnit to see the effects of MS 'competition'. This is not, however, my only reason for stopping development work - I have a big enough ego to think I could still produce a better product than them :-) As some of you are aware, there are some in the community who believe that a .Net 2.0 compatible release was theirs by-right and that I should be moving faster - despite the fact that I am but one man working in his spare time... This came to head in the last week; I have been subjected to an automated mail-bomb attack on both my public mail addresses and the ndoc2 mailing list address. These mails have been extremely offensive and resulted in my ISP temporarily suspending my account because of the traffic volume. This incident has been reported to the local authorities, although I am highly doubtful they will be able to do anything about it. This has was the 'last-straw' and has convinced me that I should withdraw from the community; I'm not prepared to have myself and my family threatened by some lunatic! Kevin P.S. If anyone wants to take over as admin on the SourceForge NDoc project - contact me. If not, I'll be removing myself in 14 days. |
From: Mark I. <mi...@so...> - 2006-07-28 09:16:41
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I presume many of you have seen this... =20 =20 =20 From: Kevin Downs [mailto:nd...@kd...]=20 Sent: 26 July 2006 18:32 To: nd...@kd... Subject: NDoc 2.0 - R.I.P. =20 I have decided to discontinue work on NDoc 2.0 and no longer participate in any open-source development work. =20 The development and release of NDoc 1.3 was a huge amount of work, and by all accounts widely appreciated. Unfortunately, despite the almost ubiquitous use of NDoc, there has been no support for the project from the .Net developer community either financially or by development contributions. Since 1.3 was released, there have been the grand total of eleven donations to the project. In fact, were it not for Oleg Tkachenko's kind donation of a MS MVP MSDN subscription, I would not even have a copy of VS2005 to work with!=20 =20 To put this into perspective, if only roughly 1-in-10 of the those who downloaded NDoc had donated the minimum allowable amount of $5 then I could have worked on NDoc 2.0 full-time and it could have been released months ago! Now, I am not suggesting that this should have occurred, or that anyone owes me anything for the work I have done, rather I am trying to demonstrate that if the community values open-source projects then it should do *something* to support them. MS has for years acknowledged community contributions via the MVP program but there is absolutely no support for community projects. =20 Once 'Sandcastle' is released, it is my belief that it will become the de-facto standard and that NDoc will slowly become a stagnant side-water. This will happen regardless of technical considerations, even if Sandcastle were to be less feature-complete. It's just an inevitable result of MS's 'not-invented-here' mentality, one only has to look at Nant and NUnit to see the effects of MS 'competition'. =20 =20 This is not, however, my only reason for stopping development work - I have a big enough ego to think I could still produce a better product than them :-) =20 As some of you are aware, there are some in the community who believe that a .Net 2.0 compatible release was theirs by-right and that I should be moving faster - despite the fact that I am but one man working in his spare time... =20 This came to head in the last week; I have been subjected to an automated mail-bomb attack on both my public mail addresses and the ndoc2 mailing list address. These mails have been extremely offensive and resulted in my ISP temporarily suspending my account because of the traffic volume. This incident has been reported to the local authorities, although I am highly doubtful they will be able to do anything about it. =20 This has was the 'last-straw' and has convinced me that I should withdraw from the community; I'm not prepared to have myself and my family threatened by some lunatic! =20 =20 Kevin =20 =20 P.S. If anyone wants to take over as admin on the SourceForge NDoc project - contact me. If not, I'll be removing myself in 14 days. |
From: Paul S. <pa...@to...> - 2006-05-18 22:33:54
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So what is behind all these silence? Please those who have access to Kelvin, please tell him to declare his position, we just cannot stay here not knowing where we are or where we are going. A little bit of respect to users of your work is part of open source process, or is he going closed source? Best regards, Paul.=20 > -----Original Message----- > From: ndo...@li...=20 > [mailto:ndo...@li...] On Behalf Of=20 > Mark Ingram > Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2006 5:28 PM > To: ndo...@li... > Subject: RE: [ndoc-devel] NDoc2 - CVS? >=20 > Kevin did another release only a few days ago: >=20 > http://members.optushome.com.au/kdowns/NDoc2-Alpha3u-20060512.zip > Kevin Downs [nd...@kd...] >=20 > We really need to get some sort of collaboration on the go. > =20 >=20 > -----Original Message----- > From: ndo...@li... > [mailto:ndo...@li...] On Behalf Of=20 > Karl Waclawek > Sent: 18 May 2006 04:09 > To: ndo...@li... > Subject: Re: [ndoc-devel] NDoc2 - CVS? >=20 > Ken Kohler wrote: > > The code that Jonas Lagerblad originally posted has been=20 > updated and=20 > > is now part of the NDOC05 project. I solved some of the=20 > issues that=20 > > were outstanding from Jonas' updates and passed the code on. The=20 > > latest I'm aware of (I'm not sure if it is 1.3.1 v16) can be found > > at: http://sourceforge.net/projects/ndoc05. > > > > =20 > Good news, thanks! >=20 > Karl >=20 >=20 > ------------------------------------------------------- > Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web=20 > services, security? > Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make=20 > your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server=20 > v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo > http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=3Dlnk&kid=3D120709&bid=3D263057& > dat=3D121642 > _______________________________________________ > ndoc-devel mailing list > ndo...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/ndoc-devel >=20 >=20 > ------------------------------------------------------- > Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web=20 > services, security? > Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make=20 > your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server=20 > v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo > http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=3Dk&kid=120709&bid&3057&dat=121642 > _______________________________________________ > ndoc-devel mailing list > ndo...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/ndoc-devel >=20 |
From: Mark I. <mi...@so...> - 2006-05-18 08:28:31
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Kevin did another release only a few days ago: http://members.optushome.com.au/kdowns/NDoc2-Alpha3u-20060512.zip Kevin Downs [nd...@kd...] We really need to get some sort of collaboration on the go. =20 -----Original Message----- From: ndo...@li... [mailto:ndo...@li...] On Behalf Of Karl Waclawek Sent: 18 May 2006 04:09 To: ndo...@li... Subject: Re: [ndoc-devel] NDoc2 - CVS? Ken Kohler wrote: > The code that Jonas Lagerblad originally posted has been updated and=20 > is now part of the NDOC05 project. I solved some of the issues that=20 > were outstanding from Jonas' updates and passed the code on. The=20 > latest I'm aware of (I'm not sure if it is 1.3.1 v16) can be found=20 > at: http://sourceforge.net/projects/ndoc05. > > =20 Good news, thanks! Karl ------------------------------------------------------- Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=3Dlnk&kid=3D120709&bid=3D263057&dat=3D= 121642 _______________________________________________ ndoc-devel mailing list ndo...@li... https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/ndoc-devel |
From: Karl W. <ka...@wa...> - 2006-05-18 03:09:16
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Ken Kohler wrote: > The code that Jonas Lagerblad originally posted has > been updated and is now part of the NDOC05 project. I > solved some of the issues that were outstanding from > Jonas' updates and passed the code on. The latest I'm > aware of (I'm not sure if it is 1.3.1 v16) can be > found at: http://sourceforge.net/projects/ndoc05. > > Good news, thanks! Karl |
From: Ken K. <jun...@ya...> - 2006-05-17 23:43:49
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The code that Jonas Lagerblad originally posted has been updated and is now part of the NDOC05 project. I solved some of the issues that were outstanding from Jonas' updates and passed the code on. The latest I'm aware of (I'm not sure if it is 1.3.1 v16) can be found at: http://sourceforge.net/projects/ndoc05. Ken --- Karl Waclawek <ka...@wa...> wrote: > Mark Ingram wrote: > > Because there isnt one single team working on 2.0, > there are several > > variations of it built by different groups. > > As far as im aware, the builds are so significatly > different that it > > would be impossible to merge all projects together > and get 1 single > > branch. > > > > > > I know of an updated NDoc 1.3.1 (v16) by Jonas > Lagerblad, and a version > NDoc 2.0 alpha3r > ( a few months old) by Kevin Downs. No source for > the latter, just binaries. > It appears as if Kevin Downs' version is a rewrite > of the original, > according to his > comments on some MS blog. I guess everyone is > waiting for him to release > some source. > What I don't understand is that, if he has so little > time, why does he > not want anyone to help out? > > Karl > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support > web services, security? > Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated > technology to make your job easier > Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 > based on Apache Geronimo > http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnk&kid=120709&bid=263057&dat=121642 > _______________________________________________ > ndoc-devel mailing list > ndo...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/ndoc-devel > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com |
From: Jason D. <ja...@in...> - 2006-05-17 23:00:17
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On 5/17/06, Paul Selormey <pa...@to...> wrote: > Have you contacted them directly? I tried contacting Kevin several months ago, but didn't receive a reply. --=20 Jason |
From: Paul S. <pa...@to...> - 2006-05-17 22:35:24
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Have you contacted them directly? Best regards, Paul.=20 > -----Original Message----- > From: ndo...@li...=20 > [mailto:ndo...@li...] On Behalf Of=20 > Jason Diamond > Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2006 3:52 AM > To: ndo...@li... > Subject: Re: [ndoc-devel] NDoc2 - CVS? >=20 > Has anybody heard anything from Donald Kackman or Kevin Downs=20 > recently? They took over as admins on the project after I=20 > stopeed working on it, but I haven't seen them in a while. >=20 > Since one of them removed me as project administrator, I=20 > can't really do much with the SourceForge site or CVS, but I=20 > can probably get SF support to fix that if I explain the situation. >=20 > If they don't appear sometime soon to let us know what their=20 > plans may be, we should do exactly as you suggest and just=20 > make take one of the existing builds and check it in and make=20 > a release. >=20 > Since the bulk of the original NDoc code was under the GPL, I=20 > assume that means any changes that have been made that they=20 > distribute must include source. But we should probably make=20 > sure this is known, or at least ask who wants to volunteer=20 > their branch to become the NDoc 2.0. >=20 > Do we have a definitive list of 2.0 builds that we can choose from? >=20 > I'll wait a few days to see if Don or Kevin appears. If not,=20 > I'll contact SF support and get them to give me admin access. >=20 > -- > Jason >=20 > On 5/17/06, Mark Ingram <mi...@so...> wrote: > > Because there isnt one single team working on 2.0, there=20 > are several=20 > > variations of it built by different groups. > > As far as im aware, the builds are so significatly=20 > different that it=20 > > would be impossible to merge all projects together and get 1 single=20 > > branch. > > > > Looks like 1 project will have to be declared the=20 > "official" branch at=20 > > some point. > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: ndo...@li... > > [mailto:ndo...@li...] On Behalf Of Karl=20 > > Waclawek > > Sent: 17 May 2006 16:23 > > To: ndo...@li... > > Subject: [ndoc-devel] NDoc2 - CVS? > > > > From googling the web I can see that several alpha=20 > releases of NDOC=20 > > 2.0 have been made so far, but none publicly. The source in CVS has=20 > > not been updated as well. > > > > Why all the secrecy? > > > > Karl > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > > Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services,=20 > > security? > > Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to=20 > make your job=20 > > easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on=20 > > Apache Geronimo > >=20 > = http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=3Dlnk&kid=3D120709&bid=3D263057&dat=3D= 1216 > > 42 _______________________________________________ > > ndoc-devel mailing list > > ndo...@li... > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/ndoc-devel > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > > Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web=20 > services, security? > > Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to=20 > make your job=20 > > easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on=20 > > Apache Geronimo > > = http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmdlnk&kid=120709&bid&3057&dat=121642 > > _______________________________________________ > > ndoc-devel mailing list > > ndo...@li... > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/ndoc-devel > > >=20 >=20 > ------------------------------------------------------- > Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web=20 > services, security? > Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make=20 > your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server=20 > v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo > http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=3Dk&kid=120709&bid&3057&dat=121642 > _______________________________________________ > ndoc-devel mailing list > ndo...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/ndoc-devel >=20 |
From: Karl W. <ka...@wa...> - 2006-05-17 20:03:54
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Mark Ingram wrote: > Because there isnt one single team working on 2.0, there are several > variations of it built by different groups. > As far as im aware, the builds are so significatly different that it > would be impossible to merge all projects together and get 1 single > branch. > > I know of an updated NDoc 1.3.1 (v16) by Jonas Lagerblad, and a version NDoc 2.0 alpha3r ( a few months old) by Kevin Downs. No source for the latter, just binaries. It appears as if Kevin Downs' version is a rewrite of the original, according to his comments on some MS blog. I guess everyone is waiting for him to release some source. What I don't understand is that, if he has so little time, why does he not want anyone to help out? Karl |
From: Jason D. <ja...@in...> - 2006-05-17 18:52:03
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Has anybody heard anything from Donald Kackman or Kevin Downs recently? They took over as admins on the project after I stopeed working on it, but I haven't seen them in a while. Since one of them removed me as project administrator, I can't really do much with the SourceForge site or CVS, but I can probably get SF support to fix that if I explain the situation. If they don't appear sometime soon to let us know what their plans may be, we should do exactly as you suggest and just make take one of the existing builds and check it in and make a release. Since the bulk of the original NDoc code was under the GPL, I assume that means any changes that have been made that they distribute must include source. But we should probably make sure this is known, or at least ask who wants to volunteer their branch to become the NDoc 2.0. Do we have a definitive list of 2.0 builds that we can choose from? I'll wait a few days to see if Don or Kevin appears. If not, I'll contact SF support and get them to give me admin access. --=20 Jason On 5/17/06, Mark Ingram <mi...@so...> wrote: > Because there isnt one single team working on 2.0, there are several > variations of it built by different groups. > As far as im aware, the builds are so significatly different that it > would be impossible to merge all projects together and get 1 single > branch. > > Looks like 1 project will have to be declared the "official" branch at > some point. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: ndo...@li... > [mailto:ndo...@li...] On Behalf Of Karl > Waclawek > Sent: 17 May 2006 16:23 > To: ndo...@li... > Subject: [ndoc-devel] NDoc2 - CVS? > > From googling the web I can see that several alpha releases of NDOC 2.0 > have been made so far, but none publicly. The source in CVS has not been > updated as well. > > Why all the secrecy? > > Karl > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, > security? > Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job > easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache > Geronimo > http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=3Dlnk&kid=3D120709&bid=3D263057&dat= =3D121642 > _______________________________________________ > ndoc-devel mailing list > ndo...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/ndoc-devel > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? > Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job ea= sier > Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronim= o > http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmdlnk&kid=120709&bid&3057&dat=121642 > _______________________________________________ > ndoc-devel mailing list > ndo...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/ndoc-devel > |
From: Mark I. <mi...@so...> - 2006-05-17 16:05:42
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Because there isnt one single team working on 2.0, there are several variations of it built by different groups. As far as im aware, the builds are so significatly different that it would be impossible to merge all projects together and get 1 single branch. Looks like 1 project will have to be declared the "official" branch at some point. -----Original Message----- From: ndo...@li... [mailto:ndo...@li...] On Behalf Of Karl Waclawek Sent: 17 May 2006 16:23 To: ndo...@li... Subject: [ndoc-devel] NDoc2 - CVS? From googling the web I can see that several alpha releases of NDOC 2.0 have been made so far, but none publicly. The source in CVS has not been updated as well. Why all the secrecy? Karl ------------------------------------------------------- Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=3Dlnk&kid=3D120709&bid=3D263057&dat=3D= 121642 _______________________________________________ ndoc-devel mailing list ndo...@li... https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/ndoc-devel |
From: Karl W. <ka...@wa...> - 2006-05-17 15:23:29
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From googling the web I can see that several alpha releases of NDOC 2.0 have been made so far, but none publicly. The source in CVS has not been updated as well. Why all the secrecy? Karl |
From: Heath S. <clu...@ho...> - 2006-03-19 01:29:17
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Yes, you can build from the command-line but as I stated in another thread = that, of course, requires Visual Studio. While I'm all for users using Visu= al Studio (considering who I work for) Source Forge projects are about open= ness. Providing an MSBuild projects allows Visual Studio users to compile, = as well as those that have only the .NET Framework. =20 The only point I'm trying to make is that, if the original post was convert= ing the projects to VS2005 (and it sounds like he wasn't - I just didn't fu= lly understand his point) then we should make sure they will work with MSBu= ild. > From: jun...@ya...> Subject: RE: [ndoc-devel] Re: [Ndoc-users] Ndo= c for 2005> To: clu...@ho...; jer...@gm...; paul@toolscenter= .org> CC: ndo...@li...; ndo...@li...= t> Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2006 10:31:56 -0800> > Why would you need additional t= asks to build NDoc? > Are you not using Visual Studio? If a batch build is= > desired, I believe Visual Studio can be used from the> command line, usin= g the same solution as when the IDE> is opened. This was true back with VS= 6.0, I haven't> tried it since, but can't imagine MS would remove this> fu= nctionality.> > --- Heath Stewart <clu...@ho...> wrote:> > > It's n= ot clear if you mean you ported the solution> > ans project files to "2005"= format, you added> > support to NDoc for generics, or both. Could you> > p= lease elaborate?> > > > Regarding the project formats, msbuild.exe that> > = ships with the 2.0 Framework can build these, so if> > the group is intent = on building with and requiring> > the 2.0 runtime then I don't believe that= will hurt> > the community, but that is a big requirement for our> > users= .> > > > That said a coworker of mine has created MSBee, a> > set of tasks = to build on .NET 1.1 using msbuild.exe.> > See http://blogs.msdn.com/clicht= en.> > > > Of course we could always switch to NAnt (if we> > haven't alrea= dy; it's been a while since I've had> > time to look at the source).> > > >= > > -----Original Message-----> > From: "ndo...@li...urceforg= e.net"> > <ndo...@li...> on behalf> > of "Paul Se= lormey" <pa...@to...>> > Sent: Friday, March 17, 2006 3:48 AM> > T= o: "Jeremiah Voris" <jer...@gm...>> > Cc: "ndo...@li...urcefo= rge.net"> > <ndo...@li...>,> > "ndo...@li...urce= forge.net"> > <ndo...@li...>> > Subject: [ndoc-devel] R= e: [Ndoc-users] Ndoc for 2005> > > > Right, that is a very good idea. I am = currently> > planning to start a project in VS.NET 2005 and will> > serious= ly need NDoc support.> > > > David Strickland, Ken Kohler also announced a>= > similar update> > for the .NET 2 support. Please get together and> > mer= ge these> > updates and upload it somewhere for us to test it,> > and start= > > working with it. I believe the NDoc developers are> > currently> > busy= , so for now a fork will not be bad.> > > > Best regards,> > Paul.> > > > J= eremiah Voris wrote:> > > On 3/16/06, Strickland,David> > <dstrickland@mnli= fe.com> wrote:> > >> I have a buildable 2005 copy based off of 1.3v13.> > I= spent the better part of> > >> the day today doing a simple port and rewor= king> > the Solution and project> > >> classes to support the new formats. = Is there> > another project everyone has> > >> moved to already if not anyo= ne got a suggestion> > where I can post this thing> > >> so we can start te= sting/hacking on it. Granted> > it's got more bugs then a new> > >> york sl= um and is probably about as Stable a> > democracy in Iraq but if no one> > = >> else has anything it'll be a place to start. If> > needed we could alway= s> > >> branch into a new SourceForge Project but that> > might be overkill= and in the> > >> end do more harm to the community then good.> > >>> > >> = Anyone care to comment?> > > > > > Sounds like you and Ken Kohler need to g= et> > together and figure out an> > > integration strategy. :) Has anyone c= ontacted the> > project admins?> > > > > > --> > > 533777336444244> > > > >= > > > >> >> -------------------------------------------------------> > > T= his SF.Net email is sponsored by xPML, a> > groundbreaking scripting langua= ge> > > that extends applications into web and mobile> > media. 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From: Ken K. <jun...@ya...> - 2006-03-18 18:17:56
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The below mentioned zip file does not contain the MSDN documenters. How would this solve the .NET 2.0 problems? None of the files in the zip are files that I updated with my effort. Ken --- "Derrick, Sally" <Sal...@su...> wrote: > It might be too late to avoid that. Kevin sent > alpha code in Jan that > worked fine for my purposes. > > Here's the email I received: > > > > >Hi everyone, > > > >Make sure you look at the "read-me" file ! > > > >Current Build is > >http://members.optushome.com.au/kdowns/NDoc2-Alpha3k-20060120.zip > > > > > >Let me know how you get on; bug reports, comments > and suggestions are > always welcome :-) > > > > > >regards, > >Kevin > > > > Sally > > -----Original Message----- > From: ndo...@li... > [mailto:ndo...@li...] On > Behalf Of David Kean > Sent: Thursday, March 16, 2006 10:17 PM > To: Paul Selormey; Jeremiah Voris > Cc: ndo...@li...; > ndo...@li... > Subject: RE: [Ndoc-users] Ndoc for 2005 > > You might want to ping Kevin Downs (kdowns AT > optusnet DOT com DOT au), > as he is currently working up an update for 2.0 and > you probably don't > want to be duplicating effort. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: ndo...@li... > [mailto:ndo...@li...] On > Behalf Of Paul > Selormey > Sent: Thursday, 16 March 2006 7:49 PM > To: Jeremiah Voris > Cc: ndo...@li...; > ndo...@li... > Subject: Re: [Ndoc-users] Ndoc for 2005 > > Right, that is a very good idea. I am currently > planning to start a > project in VS.NET 2005 and will seriously need NDoc > support. > > David Strickland, Ken Kohler also announced a > similar update for the > .NET 2 support. Please get together and merge these > updates and upload > it somewhere for us to test it, and start working > with it. I believe the > NDoc developers are currently busy, so for now a > fork will not be bad. > > Best regards, > Paul. > > Jeremiah Voris wrote: > > On 3/16/06, Strickland,David > <dst...@mn...> wrote: > >> I have a buildable 2005 copy based off of 1.3v13. > I spent the better > part of > >> the day today doing a simple port and reworking > the Solution and > project > >> classes to support the new formats. Is there > another project everyone > has > >> moved to already if not anyone got a suggestion > where I can post this > thing > >> so we can start testing/hacking on it. Granted > it's got more bugs > then a new > >> york slum and is probably about as Stable a > democracy in Iraq but if > no one > >> else has anything it'll be a place to start. If > needed we could > always > >> branch into a new SourceForge Project but that > might be overkill and > in the > >> end do more harm to the community then good. > >> > >> Anyone care to comment? > > > > Sounds like you and Ken Kohler need to get > together and figure out an > > integration strategy. :) Has anyone contacted the > project admins? > > > > -- > > 533777336444244 > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > > This SF.Net email is sponsored by xPML, a > groundbreaking scripting > language > > that extends applications into web and mobile > media. 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From: Paul S. <pa...@to...> - 2006-03-18 04:03:45
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Hello Sally, Thanks for the information. There is hope then. I did not apply for the beta testing when the Kevin asked because I was not doing .NET 2 then. Best regards, Paul.=20 > -----Original Message----- > From: Derrick, Sally [mailto:Sal...@su...]=20 > Sent: Friday, March 17, 2006 10:11 PM > To: David Kean; Paul Selormey; Jeremiah Voris > Cc: ndo...@li...; ndo...@li... > Subject: RE: [Ndoc-users] Ndoc for 2005 >=20 > It might be too late to avoid that. Kevin sent alpha code in=20 > Jan that worked fine for my purposes. >=20 > Here's the email I received:=20 >=20 > > > >Hi everyone, > > > >Make sure you look at the "read-me" file ! =20 > > > >Current Build is > >http://members.optushome.com.au/kdowns/NDoc2-Alpha3k-20060120.zip > > > > > >Let me know how you get on; bug reports, comments and suggestions are > always welcome :-) > > > > > >regards, > >Kevin > > >=20 > Sally >=20 > -----Original Message----- > From: ndo...@li... > [mailto:ndo...@li...] On Behalf Of=20 > David Kean > Sent: Thursday, March 16, 2006 10:17 PM > To: Paul Selormey; Jeremiah Voris > Cc: ndo...@li...; ndo...@li... > Subject: RE: [Ndoc-users] Ndoc for 2005 >=20 > You might want to ping Kevin Downs (kdowns AT optusnet DOT=20 > com DOT au), as he is currently working up an update for 2.0=20 > and you probably don't want to be duplicating effort. >=20 >=20 > -----Original Message----- > From: ndo...@li... > [mailto:ndo...@li...] On Behalf Of=20 > Paul Selormey > Sent: Thursday, 16 March 2006 7:49 PM > To: Jeremiah Voris > Cc: ndo...@li...; ndo...@li... > Subject: Re: [Ndoc-users] Ndoc for 2005 >=20 > Right, that is a very good idea. I am currently planning to=20 > start a project in VS.NET 2005 and will seriously need NDoc support. >=20 > David Strickland, Ken Kohler also announced a similar update=20 > for the .NET 2 support. Please get together and merge these=20 > updates and upload it somewhere for us to test it, and start=20 > working with it. I believe the NDoc developers are currently=20 > busy, so for now a fork will not be bad. >=20 > Best regards, > Paul. >=20 > Jeremiah Voris wrote: > > On 3/16/06, Strickland,David <dst...@mn...> wrote: > >> I have a buildable 2005 copy based off of 1.3v13. I spent=20 > the better > part of > >> the day today doing a simple port and reworking the Solution and > project > >> classes to support the new formats. Is there another=20 > project everyone > has > >> moved to already if not anyone got a suggestion where I=20 > can post this > thing > >> so we can start testing/hacking on it. Granted it's got more bugs > then a new > >> york slum and is probably about as Stable a democracy in=20 > Iraq but if > no one > >> else has anything it'll be a place to start. If needed we could > always > >> branch into a new SourceForge Project but that might be=20 > overkill and > in the > >> end do more harm to the community then good. > >> > >> Anyone care to comment? > >=20 > > Sounds like you and Ken Kohler need to get together and=20 > figure out an=20 > > integration strategy. :) Has anyone contacted the project admins? > >=20 > > -- > > 533777336444244 > >=20 > >=20 > > ------------------------------------------------------- > > This SF.Net email is sponsored by xPML, a groundbreaking scripting > language > > that extends applications into web and mobile media. 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From: Michael S. <mic...@mb...> - 2006-03-17 19:41:04
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I will help get you the VSHIK: I had to download the VS2005 SDK and install it. Go here: http://msdn.microsoft.com/vstudio/extend/default.aspx and look for the October 2005 SDK. I don't know if the new March CTP has = the VS Help Authoring/Integration stuff. MS -----Original Message----- From: ndo...@li... [mailto:ndo...@li...] On Behalf Of Ken Kohler Sent: Friday, March 17, 2006 1:32 PM To: Derrick, Sally; David Kean; Paul Selormey; Jeremiah Voris; ndo...@li... Strickland,David; = kd...@op... Cc: ndo...@li...; ndo...@li... Subject: RE: [Ndoc-users] Ndoc for 2005 Hi Everyone, As has been mentioned before, I have a working copy of NDoc 1.3.x that works with VS 2.0 and Generics. I started with ndoc-src-1.3.1-v13.zip, found at http://jonas.lagerblad.com/blog/?p=3D4, so I take no credit for getting NDoc to compile with VS 2005. 1.3.1-v13 is known to have 2 major issues: 1) Working links to system classes 2) Correct output of Generics for other languages than C# I worked only on the MSDN Documenter and ported my changes to the MSDN2 Documenter. I do not have the VSHIK and cannot find in on Microsoft's website, so I cannot compile the HtmlHelp documenter. The JavaDoc documenter gives a runtime error (stylesheet problem?) if it is used, I have not touched this one. The bulk of my changes are localized to additional files I added, or additional code and methods called by or surrounded by tests for user selection of .Net Framework 2.0 as the target. This limits the scope of changes to existing code to help preserve compatibility with 1.0 and 1.1 Framework help file generation. I changed only one XSLT file for MSDN (and thus one file for MSDN2). The big issues with fixing links to the MS-HELP urls (i.e. the framework help) are:=20 1) The SDK root has changed. The change is more than from 1.0 to 1.1 of the framework, which was just a version number update. The root is partially mapped based on the actual files that the help pages are stored in, of which there are about 20 files. To solve this, I created the url based on one of the files then verified (navigated to) the MS-HELP page.=20 If the navigation failed, I tried the next file...and so on. This is the only way I could think of to resolve the base portion of the URL. 2) Generation of URL for Generics is difficult. For classes, I updated the corresponding stylesheet to call a utility method. At this point when generating the html page, there is enough information, if you count the parameters, to form the appropriate URL, though Enumerator, KeyCollection and ValueCollection derived classes needed additional work due to issues with reflection information not being correct. 3) MS-HELP links for members/properties/fields/etc. can be problamatic. The only effective way to get the correct URL appears to be navigate the the Member page for the corresponding class, then parse the page to find the actual link for the member/property/etc.=20 This logic is so much easier than using reflection to try to determine what type of information needs to be used for the help link. 4) Some links for user generated code (generics?) do not appear that they ever can be correct. After all HTML files are generated (prior to creating the CHM file) the links are verified. Bad links to developer classes are removed. I only use C#, so I have not verified correctness with VB or any other language. I now have a utility that can scan the DOC directory created by NDoc to verify all links in the generated HTML files. With both the GenericsTest project and the src\Test project, which I updated for testing Generics, the generated documents DO NOT have any bad links with my updated code. If you want the updated Source Code, let me know and I will e-mail it. Ken --- "Derrick, Sally" <Sal...@su...> wrote: > It might be too late to avoid that. Kevin sent > alpha code in Jan that > worked fine for my purposes. >=20 > Here's the email I received:=20 >=20 > > > >Hi everyone, > > > >Make sure you look at the "read-me" file ! =20 > > > >Current Build is > >http://members.optushome.com.au/kdowns/NDoc2-Alpha3k-20060120.zip > > > > > >Let me know how you get on; bug reports, comments > and suggestions are > always welcome :-) > > > > > >regards, > >Kevin =20 > > >=20 > Sally >=20 > -----Original Message----- > From: ndo...@li... > [mailto:ndo...@li...] On > Behalf Of David Kean > Sent: Thursday, March 16, 2006 10:17 PM > To: Paul Selormey; Jeremiah Voris > Cc: ndo...@li...; > ndo...@li... > Subject: RE: [Ndoc-users] Ndoc for 2005 >=20 > You might want to ping Kevin Downs (kdowns AT > optusnet DOT com DOT au), > as he is currently working up an update for 2.0 and > you probably don't > want to be duplicating effort. >=20 >=20 > -----Original Message----- > From: ndo...@li... > [mailto:ndo...@li...] On > Behalf Of Paul > Selormey > Sent: Thursday, 16 March 2006 7:49 PM > To: Jeremiah Voris > Cc: ndo...@li...; > ndo...@li... > Subject: Re: [Ndoc-users] Ndoc for 2005 >=20 > Right, that is a very good idea. I am currently > planning to start a > project in VS.NET 2005 and will seriously need NDoc > support. >=20 > David Strickland, Ken Kohler also announced a > similar update for the > .NET 2 support. Please get together and merge these > updates and upload > it somewhere for us to test it, and start working > with it. I believe the > NDoc developers are currently busy, so for now a > fork will not be bad. >=20 > Best regards, > Paul. >=20 > Jeremiah Voris wrote: > > On 3/16/06, Strickland,David > <dst...@mn...> wrote: > >> I have a buildable 2005 copy based off of 1.3v13. > I spent the better > part of > >> the day today doing a simple port and reworking > the Solution and > project > >> classes to support the new formats. Is there > another project everyone > has > >> moved to already if not anyone got a suggestion > where I can post this > thing > >> so we can start testing/hacking on it. Granted > it's got more bugs > then a new > >> york slum and is probably about as Stable a > democracy in Iraq but if > no one > >> else has anything it'll be a place to start. If > needed we could > always > >> branch into a new SourceForge Project but that > might be overkill and > in the > >> end do more harm to the community then good. > >> > >> Anyone care to comment? > >=20 > > Sounds like you and Ken Kohler need to get > together and figure out an=20 > > integration strategy. :) Has anyone contacted the > project admins? > >=20 > > -- > > 533777336444244 > >=20 > >=20 > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > > This SF.Net email is sponsored by xPML, a > groundbreaking scripting > language > > that extends applications into web and mobile > media. 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From: Ken K. <jun...@ya...> - 2006-03-17 19:31:55
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Hi Everyone, As has been mentioned before, I have a working copy of NDoc 1.3.x that works with VS 2.0 and Generics. I started with ndoc-src-1.3.1-v13.zip, found at http://jonas.lagerblad.com/blog/?p=4, so I take no credit for getting NDoc to compile with VS 2005. 1.3.1-v13 is known to have 2 major issues: 1) Working links to system classes 2) Correct output of Generics for other languages than C# I worked only on the MSDN Documenter and ported my changes to the MSDN2 Documenter. I do not have the VSHIK and cannot find in on Microsoft's website, so I cannot compile the HtmlHelp documenter. The JavaDoc documenter gives a runtime error (stylesheet problem?) if it is used, I have not touched this one. The bulk of my changes are localized to additional files I added, or additional code and methods called by or surrounded by tests for user selection of .Net Framework 2.0 as the target. This limits the scope of changes to existing code to help preserve compatibility with 1.0 and 1.1 Framework help file generation. I changed only one XSLT file for MSDN (and thus one file for MSDN2). The big issues with fixing links to the MS-HELP urls (i.e. the framework help) are: 1) The SDK root has changed. The change is more than from 1.0 to 1.1 of the framework, which was just a version number update. The root is partially mapped based on the actual files that the help pages are stored in, of which there are about 20 files. To solve this, I created the url based on one of the files then verified (navigated to) the MS-HELP page. If the navigation failed, I tried the next file...and so on. This is the only way I could think of to resolve the base portion of the URL. 2) Generation of URL for Generics is difficult. For classes, I updated the corresponding stylesheet to call a utility method. At this point when generating the html page, there is enough information, if you count the parameters, to form the appropriate URL, though Enumerator, KeyCollection and ValueCollection derived classes needed additional work due to issues with reflection information not being correct. 3) MS-HELP links for members/properties/fields/etc. can be problamatic. The only effective way to get the correct URL appears to be navigate the the Member page for the corresponding class, then parse the page to find the actual link for the member/property/etc. This logic is so much easier than using reflection to try to determine what type of information needs to be used for the help link. 4) Some links for user generated code (generics?) do not appear that they ever can be correct. After all HTML files are generated (prior to creating the CHM file) the links are verified. Bad links to developer classes are removed. I only use C#, so I have not verified correctness with VB or any other language. I now have a utility that can scan the DOC directory created by NDoc to verify all links in the generated HTML files. With both the GenericsTest project and the src\Test project, which I updated for testing Generics, the generated documents DO NOT have any bad links with my updated code. If you want the updated Source Code, let me know and I will e-mail it. Ken --- "Derrick, Sally" <Sal...@su...> wrote: > It might be too late to avoid that. Kevin sent > alpha code in Jan that > worked fine for my purposes. > > Here's the email I received: > > > > >Hi everyone, > > > >Make sure you look at the "read-me" file ! > > > >Current Build is > >http://members.optushome.com.au/kdowns/NDoc2-Alpha3k-20060120.zip > > > > > >Let me know how you get on; bug reports, comments > and suggestions are > always welcome :-) > > > > > >regards, > >Kevin > > > > Sally > > -----Original Message----- > From: ndo...@li... > [mailto:ndo...@li...] On > Behalf Of David Kean > Sent: Thursday, March 16, 2006 10:17 PM > To: Paul Selormey; Jeremiah Voris > Cc: ndo...@li...; > ndo...@li... > Subject: RE: [Ndoc-users] Ndoc for 2005 > > You might want to ping Kevin Downs (kdowns AT > optusnet DOT com DOT au), > as he is currently working up an update for 2.0 and > you probably don't > want to be duplicating effort. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: ndo...@li... > [mailto:ndo...@li...] On > Behalf Of Paul > Selormey > Sent: Thursday, 16 March 2006 7:49 PM > To: Jeremiah Voris > Cc: ndo...@li...; > ndo...@li... > Subject: Re: [Ndoc-users] Ndoc for 2005 > > Right, that is a very good idea. I am currently > planning to start a > project in VS.NET 2005 and will seriously need NDoc > support. > > David Strickland, Ken Kohler also announced a > similar update for the > .NET 2 support. Please get together and merge these > updates and upload > it somewhere for us to test it, and start working > with it. I believe the > NDoc developers are currently busy, so for now a > fork will not be bad. > > Best regards, > Paul. > > Jeremiah Voris wrote: > > On 3/16/06, Strickland,David > <dst...@mn...> wrote: > >> I have a buildable 2005 copy based off of 1.3v13. > I spent the better > part of > >> the day today doing a simple port and reworking > the Solution and > project > >> classes to support the new formats. Is there > another project everyone > has > >> moved to already if not anyone got a suggestion > where I can post this > thing > >> so we can start testing/hacking on it. Granted > it's got more bugs > then a new > >> york slum and is probably about as Stable a > democracy in Iraq but if > no one > >> else has anything it'll be a place to start. If > needed we could > always > >> branch into a new SourceForge Project but that > might be overkill and > in the > >> end do more harm to the community then good. > >> > >> Anyone care to comment? > > > > Sounds like you and Ken Kohler need to get > together and figure out an > > integration strategy. :) Has anyone contacted the > project admins? > > > > -- > > 533777336444244 > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > > This SF.Net email is sponsored by xPML, a > groundbreaking scripting > language > > that extends applications into web and mobile > media. 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From: Heath S. <clu...@ho...> - 2006-03-17 18:58:53
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That places a dependency on VS. Perhaps not a huge issue since people can j= ust download the binaries, but using MSBuild or NAnt (and there's probably = others, but something ubiquitous like these two would be best) means you do= n't need VS. If you have VS 2005, though, you can use the .csproj files sin= ce they are (for 2005) MSBuild projects.= |
From: Ken K. <jun...@ya...> - 2006-03-17 18:32:07
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Why would you need additional tasks to build NDoc? Are you not using Visual Studio? If a batch build is desired, I believe Visual Studio can be used from the command line, using the same solution as when the IDE is opened. This was true back with VS 6.0, I haven't tried it since, but can't imagine MS would remove this functionality. --- Heath Stewart <clu...@ho...> wrote: > It's not clear if you mean you ported the solution > ans project files to "2005" format, you added > support to NDoc for generics, or both. Could you > please elaborate? > > Regarding the project formats, msbuild.exe that > ships with the 2.0 Framework can build these, so if > the group is intent on building with and requiring > the 2.0 runtime then I don't believe that will hurt > the community, but that is a big requirement for our > users. > > That said a coworker of mine has created MSBee, a > set of tasks to build on .NET 1.1 using msbuild.exe. > See http://blogs.msdn.com/clichten. > > Of course we could always switch to NAnt (if we > haven't already; it's been a while since I've had > time to look at the source). > > > -----Original Message----- > From: "ndo...@li..." > <ndo...@li...> on behalf > of "Paul Selormey" <pa...@to...> > Sent: Friday, March 17, 2006 3:48 AM > To: "Jeremiah Voris" <jer...@gm...> > Cc: "ndo...@li..." > <ndo...@li...>, > "ndo...@li..." > <ndo...@li...> > Subject: [ndoc-devel] Re: [Ndoc-users] Ndoc for 2005 > > Right, that is a very good idea. I am currently > planning to start a project in VS.NET 2005 and will > seriously need NDoc support. > > David Strickland, Ken Kohler also announced a > similar update > for the .NET 2 support. Please get together and > merge these > updates and upload it somewhere for us to test it, > and start > working with it. I believe the NDoc developers are > currently > busy, so for now a fork will not be bad. > > Best regards, > Paul. > > Jeremiah Voris wrote: > > On 3/16/06, Strickland,David > <dst...@mn...> wrote: > >> I have a buildable 2005 copy based off of 1.3v13. > I spent the better part of > >> the day today doing a simple port and reworking > the Solution and project > >> classes to support the new formats. Is there > another project everyone has > >> moved to already if not anyone got a suggestion > where I can post this thing > >> so we can start testing/hacking on it. Granted > it's got more bugs then a new > >> york slum and is probably about as Stable a > democracy in Iraq but if no one > >> else has anything it'll be a place to start. If > needed we could always > >> branch into a new SourceForge Project but that > might be overkill and in the > >> end do more harm to the community then good. > >> > >> Anyone care to comment? > > > > Sounds like you and Ken Kohler need to get > together and figure out an > > integration strategy. :) Has anyone contacted the > project admins? > > > > -- > > 533777336444244 > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > > This SF.Net email is sponsored by xPML, a > groundbreaking scripting language > > that extends applications into web and mobile > media. Attend the live webcast > > and join the prime developer group breaking into > this new coding territory! > > > http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=k&kid0944&bid$1720&dat1642 > > _______________________________________________ > > Ndoc-users mailing list > > Ndo...@li... > > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/ndoc-users > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.Net email is sponsored by xPML, a > groundbreaking scripting language > that extends applications into web and mobile media. > Attend the live webcast > and join the prime developer group breaking into > this new coding territory! > http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnk&kid=110944&bid=241720&dat=121642 > _______________________________________________ > ndoc-devel mailing list > ndo...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/ndoc-devel > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.Net email is sponsored by xPML, a > groundbreaking scripting language > that extends applications into web and mobile media. > Attend the live webcast > and join the prime developer group breaking into > this new coding territory! > http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnk&kid0944&bid$1720&dat1642 > _______________________________________________ > Ndoc-users mailing list > Ndo...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/ndoc-users > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com |
From: Derrick, S. <Sal...@su...> - 2006-03-17 13:11:09
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It might be too late to avoid that. Kevin sent alpha code in Jan that worked fine for my purposes. Here's the email I received:=20 > >Hi everyone, > >Make sure you look at the "read-me" file ! =20 > >Current Build is >http://members.optushome.com.au/kdowns/NDoc2-Alpha3k-20060120.zip > > >Let me know how you get on; bug reports, comments and suggestions are always welcome :-) > > >regards, >Kevin =20 > Sally -----Original Message----- From: ndo...@li... [mailto:ndo...@li...] On Behalf Of David Kean Sent: Thursday, March 16, 2006 10:17 PM To: Paul Selormey; Jeremiah Voris Cc: ndo...@li...; ndo...@li... Subject: RE: [Ndoc-users] Ndoc for 2005 You might want to ping Kevin Downs (kdowns AT optusnet DOT com DOT au), as he is currently working up an update for 2.0 and you probably don't want to be duplicating effort. -----Original Message----- From: ndo...@li... [mailto:ndo...@li...] On Behalf Of Paul Selormey Sent: Thursday, 16 March 2006 7:49 PM To: Jeremiah Voris Cc: ndo...@li...; ndo...@li... Subject: Re: [Ndoc-users] Ndoc for 2005 Right, that is a very good idea. I am currently planning to start a project in VS.NET 2005 and will seriously need NDoc support. David Strickland, Ken Kohler also announced a similar update for the .NET 2 support. Please get together and merge these updates and upload it somewhere for us to test it, and start working with it. I believe the NDoc developers are currently busy, so for now a fork will not be bad. Best regards, Paul. Jeremiah Voris wrote: > On 3/16/06, Strickland,David <dst...@mn...> wrote: >> I have a buildable 2005 copy based off of 1.3v13. I spent the better part of >> the day today doing a simple port and reworking the Solution and project >> classes to support the new formats. Is there another project everyone has >> moved to already if not anyone got a suggestion where I can post this thing >> so we can start testing/hacking on it. Granted it's got more bugs then a new >> york slum and is probably about as Stable a democracy in Iraq but if no one >> else has anything it'll be a place to start. If needed we could always >> branch into a new SourceForge Project but that might be overkill and in the >> end do more harm to the community then good. >> >> Anyone care to comment? >=20 > Sounds like you and Ken Kohler need to get together and figure out an=20 > integration strategy. :) Has anyone contacted the project admins? >=20 > -- > 533777336444244 >=20 >=20 > ------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.Net email is sponsored by xPML, a groundbreaking scripting language > that extends applications into web and mobile media. Attend the live webcast > and join the prime developer group breaking into this new coding territory! > http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=3Dk&kid=110944&bid$1720&dat=121642 > _______________________________________________ > Ndoc-users mailing list > Ndo...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/ndoc-users ------------------------------------------------------- This SF.Net email is sponsored by xPML, a groundbreaking scripting language that extends applications into web and mobile media. Attend the live webcast and join the prime developer group breaking into this new coding territory! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=3Dlnk&kid=3D110944&bid=3D241720&dat=3D= 121642 _______________________________________________ Ndoc-users mailing list Ndo...@li... https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/ndoc-users ######################################################################## ############# Attention: The information contained in this message and or attachments is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon, this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender and may not necessarily reflect the views of AusSoft Solutions Pty Ltd. If you received this in error, please inform us by email at pos...@au... and delete the material from any system. ######################################################################## ############# ------------------------------------------------------- This SF.Net email is sponsored by xPML, a groundbreaking scripting language that extends applications into web and mobile media. Attend the live webcast and join the prime developer group breaking into this new coding territory! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=3Dk&kid=110944&bid$1720&dat=121642 _______________________________________________ Ndoc-users mailing list Ndo...@li... https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/ndoc-users |
From: Paul S. <pa...@to...> - 2006-03-17 03:49:47
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Right, that is a very good idea. I am currently planning to start a project in VS.NET 2005 and will seriously need NDoc support. David Strickland, Ken Kohler also announced a similar update for the .NET 2 support. Please get together and merge these updates and upload it somewhere for us to test it, and start working with it. I believe the NDoc developers are currently busy, so for now a fork will not be bad. Best regards, Paul. Jeremiah Voris wrote: > On 3/16/06, Strickland,David <dst...@mn...> wrote: >> I have a buildable 2005 copy based off of 1.3v13. I spent the better part of >> the day today doing a simple port and reworking the Solution and project >> classes to support the new formats. Is there another project everyone has >> moved to already if not anyone got a suggestion where I can post this thing >> so we can start testing/hacking on it. Granted it's got more bugs then a new >> york slum and is probably about as Stable a democracy in Iraq but if no one >> else has anything it'll be a place to start. If needed we could always >> branch into a new SourceForge Project but that might be overkill and in the >> end do more harm to the community then good. >> >> Anyone care to comment? > > Sounds like you and Ken Kohler need to get together and figure out an > integration strategy. :) Has anyone contacted the project admins? > > -- > 533777336444244 > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.Net email is sponsored by xPML, a groundbreaking scripting language > that extends applications into web and mobile media. Attend the live webcast > and join the prime developer group breaking into this new coding territory! > http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=k&kid0944&bid$1720&dat1642 > _______________________________________________ > Ndoc-users mailing list > Ndo...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/ndoc-users |