Thread: RE: [Ndiswrapper-general] Trying to get Inspiron 600m wireless working
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From: Kevin P. <kev...@mo...> - 2005-12-15 14:46:47
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The Broadcom BCM4401-B0 is the ethernet controller - not the wireless controller. Look for something in the lspci output that says Network controller. Mine reports this: 00:0c.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4306 802.11b/g Wireless LAN Controller (rev 03) If you don't see this or something like it, are you sure you have wireless built in? =20 -----Original Message----- From: ndi...@li... [mailto:ndi...@li...]=20 Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2005 09:39 AM To: ndi...@li... Subject: [Ndiswrapper-general] Trying to get Inspiron 600m wireless working Hi all. It appears to me that there is no driver in the ndiswrapper list matching my onboard wireless for my new Inspiron 600m. This seems surprising to me, so let me double-check with the list to see if I am doing things right. lspci tells me: 02:00.0 Ethernet controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4401-B0 100Base-TX (rev 02) lspci -n tells me: 02:00.0 Class 0200: 14e4:170c (rev 02) I searched the List on the wiki for both "14e4:170c" and "BCM4401" and neither string matched. I did find some other BCM cards on there. Am I really not going to be able to use the onboard wireless with Linux? Thanks in advance! Jessica ------------------------------------------------------- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=3D7637&alloc_id=3D16865&op=3Dclick _______________________________________________ Ndiswrapper-general mailing list Ndi...@li... https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/ndiswrapper-general |
From: Jessica P. H. <jph...@ar...> - 2005-12-15 14:56:38
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Okay, yes, I see: 02:03.0 Network controller: Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 2200BG (rev 05) ...which I thought was the PCMCIA wireless card that I have in the thing (because I have been using that while trying to get the other wireless working), but, given what you said, I checked the receipt from when I purchased the laptop, and it said: Wireless Networking Card: Intel(r) PRO/Wireless 2200 Internal Wireless (802.11 b/g, 54Mbps) IP2200I No kidding -- the two cards have the same ID? I know the PCMCIA card is the one that's working right now, because when I take it out, wireless goes away, and when I put it in, wireless works. I think the next step is to take out the PCMCIA card, and see if I can run system-config-network and configure the OTHER card (is it a "card" if it's on board?), using the same driver. I think I tried this before and it didn't work, so I expect to report back with some more specifics. Thank you! Jessica On Thu, Dec 15, 2005 at 09:46:07AM -0500, Kevin Penrose wrote: > > The Broadcom BCM4401-B0 is the ethernet controller - not the wireless > controller. Look for something in the lspci output that says Network > controller. Mine reports this: > 00:0c.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4306 802.11b/g > Wireless LAN Controller (rev 03) > > If you don't see this or something like it, are you sure you have > wireless built in? > > > -----Original Message----- > From: ndi...@li... > [mailto:ndi...@li...] > Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2005 09:39 AM > To: ndi...@li... > Subject: [Ndiswrapper-general] Trying to get Inspiron 600m wireless > working > > Hi all. It appears to me that there is no driver in the ndiswrapper list > matching my onboard wireless for my new Inspiron 600m. This seems > surprising to me, so let me double-check with the list to see if I am > doing things right. > > lspci tells me: > > 02:00.0 Ethernet controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4401-B0 100Base-TX > (rev 02) > > lspci -n tells me: > > 02:00.0 Class 0200: 14e4:170c (rev 02) > > I searched the List on the wiki for both "14e4:170c" and "BCM4401" and > neither string matched. I did find some other BCM cards on there. > > Am I really not going to be able to use the onboard wireless with Linux? > > Thanks in advance! > > Jessica > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log > files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that > makes searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD > SPLUNK! > http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=7637&alloc_id=16865&op=click > _______________________________________________ > Ndiswrapper-general mailing list > Ndi...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/ndiswrapper-general |
From: John H. <jc...@th...> - 2005-12-15 15:06:15
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Jessica Perry Hekman wrote: >Okay, yes, I see: > >02:03.0 Network controller: Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 2200BG (rev 05) > > Unless I've got confused again you don't need ndiswrapper for this. What distro are you using? Fedora Core 4 and RHEL4 at least have drivers for this beast. You can also download drivers from Intel yourself. |
From: Jessica P. H. <jph...@ar...> - 2005-12-15 15:11:25
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Yes, Fedora 4. Interesting that it appears not to work when I don't have the other card in then! Perhaps this is not an ndiswrapper question and I should take it somewhere else :) I'll test it in one more minute (I have emacs state over X that I don't want to lose just now so I don't want to take out the working wireless until I have a few things resolved and can close the emacs session)... Jessica On Thu, Dec 15, 2005 at 03:05:57PM +0000, John Haxby wrote: > Jessica Perry Hekman wrote: > > >Okay, yes, I see: > > > >02:03.0 Network controller: Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 2200BG (rev 05) > > > > > Unless I've got confused again you don't need ndiswrapper for this. > > What distro are you using? Fedora Core 4 and RHEL4 at least have > drivers for this beast. You can also download drivers from Intel yourself. |
From: Jonathan B. <be...@gm...> - 2005-12-15 15:59:04
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On 12/15/05, Jessica Perry Hekman <jph...@ar...> wrote: > Yes, Fedora 4. Interesting that it appears not to work when I don't have > the other card in then! Perhaps this is not an ndiswrapper question and I > should take it somewhere else :) I'll test it in one more minute (I have > emacs state over X that I don't want to lose just now so I don't want to > take out the working wireless until I have a few things resolved and can > close the emacs session)... > > Jessica Hi Jessica, I believe that you need to get the firmware for your card for it to work. Fedora does not ship this firmware since it is binary only and Fedora has committed to being purely open-source. I have not dealt with this card, but this is from seeing discussions about it on the Fedora mailing list. One user reported being able to get the firmware using the command "yum install ipw2200-firmware" It appears that this is package is available from the Livna repo, so make sure you have it configured (http://rpm.livna.org/configuration.html). Jonathan |
From: Ben L. <lin...@ya...> - 2005-12-15 16:43:37
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Also, you can only have 1 IP address at a time. If you have two wireless cards trying to get 2 different IPs both will conflict and both will not work. Also if you are connected to a LAN and you have a wireless card that will not work well either. I learned this when trying to get a wireless card to work. I had my LAN connected to the router, and I was trying to get wireless access to the router at the same time. the 2 attempts at an internet connection got confused and nothing worked, in fact nothing would work in that scenario. Make sure you completely stop one wireless card before you start the other. --- Jonathan Berry <be...@gm...> wrote: > On 12/15/05, Jessica Perry Hekman > <jph...@ar...> wrote: > > Yes, Fedora 4. Interesting that it appears not to > work when I don't have > > the other card in then! Perhaps this is not an > ndiswrapper question and I > > should take it somewhere else :) I'll test it in > one more minute (I have > > emacs state over X that I don't want to lose just > now so I don't want to > > take out the working wireless until I have a few > things resolved and can > > close the emacs session)... > > > > Jessica > > Hi Jessica, > > I believe that you need to get the firmware for your > card for it to > work. Fedora does not ship this firmware since it > is binary only and > Fedora has committed to being purely open-source. I > have not dealt > with this card, but this is from seeing discussions > about it on the > Fedora mailing list. One user reported being able > to get the firmware > using the command "yum install ipw2200-firmware" It > appears that this > is package is available from the Livna repo, so make > sure you have it > configured > (http://rpm.livna.org/configuration.html). > > Jonathan > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do > you grep through log files > for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search > engine that makes > searching your log files as easy as surfing the > web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! > http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_idv37&alloc_id865&op=click > _______________________________________________ > Ndiswrapper-general mailing list > Ndi...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/ndiswrapper-general > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com |
From: Jonathan B. <be...@gm...> - 2005-12-15 16:57:47
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On 12/15/05, Ben Losaw <lin...@ya...> wrote: > Also, you can only have 1 IP address at a time. If > you have two wireless cards trying to get 2 different > IPs both will conflict and both will not work. As a general statement, I would disagree with that. There are many people who have servers or firewalls with multiple NICs and IPs.=20 Usually a different situation from what you are describing, but I know of nothing stopping you from having two IPs for one computer. In fact, I have done this before with my laptop, at least in Windows. > Also if you are connected to a LAN and you have a > wireless card that will not work well either. Again, I disagree with this as a general statement. It should be possible. > I learned this when trying to get a wireless card to > work. I had my LAN connected to the router, and I was > trying to get wireless access to the router at the > same time. the 2 attempts at an internet connection > got confused and nothing worked, in fact nothing would > work in that scenario. If you get things setup correctly, I think you can make it work. Only one interface will be doing anything, though, at a time. I agree that things quickly get confusing, both for you and the computer :). > Make sure you completely stop one wireless card before > you start the other. A good suggestion as it will help keep things from getting confused.=20 You should be able to have a smooth transition between the two, though there are several parameters that must be setup properly for it to work. Fedora has a program called NetworkManager that attempts to more easily handle multiple NICs (wired and wireless), much in the same way that Windows can. Jonathan |
From: <to...@sp...> - 2005-12-15 17:07:02
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On Dec 15, 17:58, Jonathan Berry wrote: >On 12/15/05, Ben Losaw <lin...@ya...> wrote: >> Also, you can only have 1 IP address at a time. If >> you have two wireless cards trying to get 2 different >> IPs both will conflict and both will not work. > >As a general statement, I would disagree with that. There are many >people who have servers or firewalls with multiple NICs and IPs. >Usually a different situation from what you are describing, but I know >of nothing stopping you from having two IPs for one computer. In >fact, I have done this before with my laptop, at least in Windows. > >> Also if you are connected to a LAN and you have a >> wireless card that will not work well either. > >Again, I disagree with this as a general statement. It should be possible. I'll have to agree with the last poster - it should definitely be possible. I'm often using several networks at the same time, combining multiple ethernet cards AND wireless, plus even a bluetooth network at the same time. I also add multiple IP addresses on the same card to the mix. Oh, and OpenVPN adds a virtual network too.. (I'm not sure if aliasing is supported on wireless and/or ndiswrapper though) I haven't tried using two or more ndiswrapper driven cards at the same time though. What usually creates trouble is the routing tables, you may have to set them up manually as otherwise you can get multiple 'default' routes for example. Check with netstat -r (or netstat -nr if it hangs.. which is often a symptom of mixed up routes itself). -Tor |
From: John H. <jc...@th...> - 2005-12-15 17:25:53
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Jonathan Berry wrote: >On 12/15/05, Ben Losaw <lin...@ya...> wrote: > > >>Also, you can only have 1 IP address at a time. If >>you have two wireless cards trying to get 2 different >>IPs both will conflict and both will not work. >> >> >As a general statement, I would disagree with that. There are many >people who have servers or firewalls with multiple NICs and IPs. >Usually a different situation from what you are describing, but I know >of nothing stopping you from having two IPs for one computer. In >fact, I have done this before with my laptop, at least in Windows. > > All Linux machines connected to a network have at least two IP addresses, one of which is 127.0.0.1. My laptop right now has three, one of which I configured something like this: ifconfig eth1:0 192.168.0.23 netmask 255.255.255.0 broadcast 192.168.0.255 And when I fire up the VPN I have another address. One of our servers a work has four IP addresses (in addition to 127.0.0.1) at the moment. >>Also if you are connected to a LAN and you have a >>wireless card that will not work well either. >> >> >Again, I disagree with this as a general statement. It should be possible. > > To my surprise, a few days ago, I managed to configure my conventional NIC and wireless NIC to have the same IP address. The reason I was surprised was not so much that I'd managed to do it as I was surprised that network traffic still flowed. I'm pretty sure it would've only gone down one interface though when I think about what the routing table must've looked like. One of these days I'm going to sort out bonding so that I can have both NICs configured all the time and just plug in a wire when I want faster data transfer. jch |
From: Ben L. <lin...@ya...> - 2005-12-15 19:54:19
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> As a general statement, I would disagree with that. > There are many > people who have servers or firewalls with multiple > NICs and IPs. > Usually a different situation from what you are > describing, but I know > of nothing stopping you from having two IPs for one > computer. In > fact, I have done this before with my laptop, at > least in Windows. I'm sorry if my information is a little off. I haven't fooled with wireless cards in a year or so. That was with Fedora Core 3 and as a beginning/normal user with one inexpensive dsl/wireless router hooked up to one dsl line. I understand that if somebody has a more technical setup with more advanced routers/hardware and more advanced software would be able to do those things. 2.5 more years of this stupid warranty (I wish I wasn't suckered into this agreement with Best Buy on my new laptop). On a side topic, if anyone has the option of not taking the extended parts and labor warranty when they buy a laptop do not take it. I'm stuck with running you-know-who for 3 years, or no free batteries. Happy Holidays to all. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com |
From: Jessica P. H. <jph...@ar...> - 2005-12-15 19:11:41
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On Thu, Dec 15, 2005 at 09:58:57AM -0600, Jonathan Berry wrote: > I believe that you need to get the firmware for your card for it to > work. Fedora does not ship this firmware since it is binary only and > Fedora has committed to being purely open-source. I have not dealt > with this card, but this is from seeing discussions about it on the > Fedora mailing list. One user reported being able to get the firmware > using the command "yum install ipw2200-firmware" It appears that this > is package is available from the Livna repo, so make sure you have it > configured (http://rpm.livna.org/configuration.html). Ran "yum install ipw2200-firmware" (no errors). Removed the external wireless card, so the machine should only be able to see the internal wireless card. Ran system-config-network. Told it I wanted to configure a new wireless connection. I then expected it to offer me a "Intel 2200BG" option, but it just offered "Other Wireless Card." I selected that; in the next screen, I had to choose the appropriate driver, and the only Intel options were three Intel EtherExpress cards. Checking dmesg I see a great deal of errors along the lines of ipw2200: Unknown symbol ieee80211_rx_mgt ipw2200: disagrees about version of symbol free_ieee80211 (etc) I did try to install the ipw2200 driver through ndiswrapper at one point (I have been messing around with this stuff for weeks and only recently gave up and posted to y'all). Perhaps there are ndiswrapper modules and such that I need to unload before the driver which came with FC4 can work properly? For instance, should I be rmmod ieee_80211 and ieee_80211_crypt? I tried "rpm -e ndiswrapper" and was told that it is depended on by kernel-module-ndiswrapper (which came with the installation so I hesitate to go removing it). Basically I think my path should be uninstalling ndiswrapper and getting back to where I was before I tried it, and then going over to linux-dell-laptops and asking them why the card doesn't Just Work (but maye I'm wrong?). Thanks! Jessica |