Thread: [Ndiswrapper-general] Getting ndiswrapper cards to work with KDE & Gnome wifi applets
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From: Benjamin K. <sup...@su...> - 2004-01-20 16:49:11
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Has anyone gotten the wifi applets in either KDE (KWiFiManager) or Gnome (WiFi Panel Applet) to work with the ndiswrapper cards? I can't get any information from either applet. Ben |
From: Jerome B. <jgm...@wa...> - 2004-01-20 16:56:40
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Hello List, the LED of my Gnome2 WiFi applet are blue when the wireless connection is on. Furthermore the strength is 100%, but so I can understand, this is not yet implemented in the NDISWrapper package. hth, Jerome Benjamin Krein wrote: > Has anyone gotten the wifi applets in either KDE (KWiFiManager) or Gnome > (WiFi Panel Applet) to work with the ndiswrapper cards? I can't get any > information from either applet. > > Ben > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > The SF.Net email is sponsored by EclipseCon 2004 > Premiere Conference on Open Tools Development and Integration > See the breadth of Eclipse activity. February 3-5 in Anaheim, CA. > http://www.eclipsecon.org/osdn > _______________________________________________ > Ndiswrapper-general mailing list > Ndi...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/ndiswrapper-general > |
From: Benjamin K. <sup...@su...> - 2004-01-20 17:00:59
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On my wifi applets, I get a N/A for signal strength and all the "LEDs" are a dark red (ie, inactive). Ben On Tue, 2004-01-20 at 09:56, Jerome BENOIT wrote: > Hello List, > > the LED of my Gnome2 WiFi applet are blue when the wireless connection > is on. Furthermore the strength is 100%, but so I can understand, > this is not yet implemented in the NDISWrapper package. > > hth, > Jerome > > Benjamin Krein wrote: > > Has anyone gotten the wifi applets in either KDE (KWiFiManager) or Gnome > > (WiFi Panel Applet) to work with the ndiswrapper cards? I can't get any > > information from either applet. > > > > Ben > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > > The SF.Net email is sponsored by EclipseCon 2004 > > Premiere Conference on Open Tools Development and Integration > > See the breadth of Eclipse activity. February 3-5 in Anaheim, CA. > > http://www.eclipsecon.org/osdn > > _______________________________________________ > > Ndiswrapper-general mailing list > > Ndi...@li... > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/ndiswrapper-general > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > The SF.Net email is sponsored by EclipseCon 2004 > Premiere Conference on Open Tools Development and Integration > See the breadth of Eclipse activity. February 3-5 in Anaheim, CA. > http://www.eclipsecon.org/osdn > _______________________________________________ > Ndiswrapper-general mailing list > Ndi...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/ndiswrapper-general |
From: Luca C. <lu...@pc...> - 2004-01-20 17:09:10
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-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hello, on 01/20/04 17:56, Jerome BENOIT wrote: > the LED of my Gnome2 WiFi applet are blue when the wireless connection which WiFi card do you have and which driver do you use? Because I've an Intel Centrino and the leds are always red :-( Thx, bye, Gismo / Luca -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Debian - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFADV/mVAp7Xm10JmkRAkajAJ9E46E9fLzImByfbMKwe9/aDl3YMwCeMITv 7Oe7wybyugtdA672T25RbaU= =mf9z -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- |
From: Benjamin K. <sup...@su...> - 2004-01-20 17:20:11
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I'm using a Buffalo WLI-CB-G54 card (Broadcom 4306 chipset) with the Buffalo WinXP drivers. Ben On Tue, 2004-01-20 at 10:05, Luca Capello wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > Hello, > > on 01/20/04 17:56, Jerome BENOIT wrote: > > the LED of my Gnome2 WiFi applet are blue when the wireless connection > which WiFi card do you have and which driver do you use? Because I've an > Intel Centrino and the leds are always red :-( > > Thx, bye, > Gismo / Luca > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) > Comment: Using GnuPG with Debian - http://enigmail.mozdev.org > > iD8DBQFADV/mVAp7Xm10JmkRAkajAJ9E46E9fLzImByfbMKwe9/aDl3YMwCeMITv > 7Oe7wybyugtdA672T25RbaU= > =mf9z > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > The SF.Net email is sponsored by EclipseCon 2004 > Premiere Conference on Open Tools Development and Integration > See the breadth of Eclipse activity. February 3-5 in Anaheim, CA. > http://www.eclipsecon.org/osdn > _______________________________________________ > Ndiswrapper-general mailing list > Ndi...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/ndiswrapper-general |
From: Jerome B. <jgm...@wa...> - 2004-01-20 17:23:58
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Very sorry for my terse answer: my box is an Inspiron 8200 laptop, my card is a Broadcom 4301 one, my kernel is 2.4.23 and my distribution is Debian GNU/Linux testing/instalble. Jerome Luca Capello wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > Hello, > > on 01/20/04 17:56, Jerome BENOIT wrote: > >>the LED of my Gnome2 WiFi applet are blue when the wireless connection > > which WiFi card do you have and which driver do you use? Because I've an > Intel Centrino and the leds are always red :-( > > Thx, bye, > Gismo / Luca > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) > Comment: Using GnuPG with Debian - http://enigmail.mozdev.org > > iD8DBQFADV/mVAp7Xm10JmkRAkajAJ9E46E9fLzImByfbMKwe9/aDl3YMwCeMITv > 7Oe7wybyugtdA672T25RbaU= > =mf9z > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > The SF.Net email is sponsored by EclipseCon 2004 > Premiere Conference on Open Tools Development and Integration > See the breadth of Eclipse activity. February 3-5 in Anaheim, CA. > http://www.eclipsecon.org/osdn > _______________________________________________ > Ndiswrapper-general mailing list > Ndi...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/ndiswrapper-general > |
From: <nk...@ya...> - 2004-01-21 06:34:58
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I have broadcom based card. Im running suse 9.0 pro I am able to intsall and load the drivers, I am able to get an IP through dhcp. If it try to ping an ip it does not work. Suse's network configuration tool does not seem to work with this,prolly because suse set wireless cards as wlan0 . is there any way to change so that ndiswrapper to setup the card as wlan0 and not eth1 any help would be appreciated ________________________________________________________________________ Yahoo! India Mobile: Download the latest polyphonic ringtones. Go to http://in.mobile.yahoo.com |
From: Tony W. <ton...@us...> - 2004-01-20 17:42:55
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Benjamin Krein wrote: > Has anyone gotten the wifi applets in either KDE (KWiFiManager) or Gnome > (WiFi Panel Applet) to work with the ndiswrapper cards? I can't get any > information from either applet. Without wishing to seem rude, from the FAQ at http://ndiswrapper.sourceforge.net/faq.html "Windows drivers don't support link quality and noise level. Some drivers may use undocumented features to display them in Windows, but these are specific to those cards and unless the vendor discloses them, it is not possible to support these features. (This is the reason why in Windows you need to install wireless monitoring tool supplied by the vendor, instead of native Windows application displaying it.) So it is not possible to have quality/noise level availalbe in ndiswrapper. All the information available through NDIS calls can be seen in /proc/net/ndiswrapper/wlan0/stats." If you run one of the various monitoring applications, you will usually see readings at one of the extremes - these should not necessarily be trusted as accurate for the reasons above. HTH, Tony |
From: Benjamin K. <sup...@su...> - 2004-01-20 17:51:37
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Not rude... I did read that and I understand that, but I also know people can be pretty smart sometimes and come up with ways of doing things that may not be documented or readily thought possible. You never know for sure unless you ask. For instance, my D-Link 650+ card is also not really supported and the chipset is not documented, but with some research and asking appropriate questions I was able to get it to do a lot of things it *shouldn't* be able to do. So I maintain, if anyone has any ideas, I'd love to know. Ben On Tue, 2004-01-20 at 10:42, Tony Whitmore wrote: > Benjamin Krein wrote: > > Has anyone gotten the wifi applets in either KDE (KWiFiManager) or Gnome > > (WiFi Panel Applet) to work with the ndiswrapper cards? I can't get any > > information from either applet. > > Without wishing to seem rude, from the FAQ at > http://ndiswrapper.sourceforge.net/faq.html > > "Windows drivers don't support link quality and noise level. Some > drivers may use undocumented features to display them in Windows, but > these are specific to those cards and unless the vendor discloses them, > it is not possible to support these features. (This is the reason why in > Windows you need to install wireless monitoring tool supplied by the > vendor, instead of native Windows application displaying it.) So it is > not possible to have quality/noise level availalbe in ndiswrapper. All > the information available through NDIS calls can be seen in > /proc/net/ndiswrapper/wlan0/stats." > > If you run one of the various monitoring applications, you will usually > see readings at one of the extremes - these should not necessarily be > trusted as accurate for the reasons above. > > HTH, > > Tony > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > The SF.Net email is sponsored by EclipseCon 2004 > Premiere Conference on Open Tools Development and Integration > See the breadth of Eclipse activity. February 3-5 in Anaheim, CA. > http://www.eclipsecon.org/osdn > _______________________________________________ > Ndiswrapper-general mailing list > Ndi...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/ndiswrapper-general |
From: Luca C. <lu...@pc...> - 2004-01-20 18:04:43
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-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hello, on 01/20/04 18:51, Benjamin Krein wrote: > never know for sure unless you ask. For instance, my D-Link 650+ card > is also not really supported and the chipset is not documented, but with > some research and asking appropriate questions I was able to get it to > do a lot of things it *shouldn't* be able to do. well, what I'm going to write is a bad reply for this list and for the NDISwrapper project, but I think it could be useful. If I were you, Ben, I'll use the 'acx100' driver at http://acx100.sf.net for the D-Link DWL-650+: during my Xmas holidays (about 10 days) I tried it by myself on my Debian GNU/Linux & kernel 2.6.1 (my brother has such a card) and it works very well with the GNOME2 Wireless Link Monitor. IMHO I see no reasons to use a wrapper when there's a native driver available. Thx, bye, Gismo / Luca -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Debian - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFADWzqVAp7Xm10JmkRAi+5AJ9xyx+6Y4uzS/uLpEa0H1BPAA714wCgi6Pz pD8O5M5Br4BdWcfFuq5rWuk= =+8Cr -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- |
From: Navindra U. <nav...@cs...> - 2004-01-20 18:08:55
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Luca Capello <lu...@pc...> wrote: > If I were you, Ben, I'll use the 'acx100' driver at http://acx100.sf.net > for the D-Link DWL-650+: during my Xmas holidays (about 10 days) I tried > it by myself on my Debian GNU/Linux & kernel 2.6.1 (my brother has such > a card) and it works very well with the GNOME2 Wireless Link Monitor. > IMHO I see no reasons to use a wrapper when there's a native driver > available. Do you have any performance statistics comparing the native vs the wrapper? Would be interesting... Cheers, Navin. |
From: Luca C. <lu...@pc...> - 2004-01-20 18:17:59
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-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hello, on 01/20/04 19:08, Navindra Umanee wrote: > Do you have any performance statistics comparing the native vs the > wrapper? Would be interesting... sorry, I don't. As I wrote, I tried that card during Xmas holidays: - - I was at my parents' home in Italy (I live in Switzerland) - - I didn't know the NDISwrapper supports for Intel Centrino (built-in on my laptop, an ASUS M3N) - - my DriverLoader free-trial license was expired - - my brother has such a card - - I wanted to be wireless :-) Once I found I could use again my Intel Centrino I was came back to Switzerland: as I don't have a lot of free time, I think I'm not going to try anymore the D-Link DWL-650+ till a real need, sorry. But you're right, a comparison should be interesting :-) Thx, bye, Gismo / Luca PS Ben, mine was just a suggestion if you wouldn't know the 'acx100' projects, as I discovered this wasn't the case. :-) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Debian - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFADXAIVAp7Xm10JmkRAmCUAKCFNeJpFpt/AH/XnKkHQXONPfl4rACginuf aqpQ4u/+wsZhyJg4RDoPsJs= =Wyv5 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- |
From: Benjamin K. <sup...@su...> - 2004-01-20 18:11:54
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Luca - I did just that... was just using that card as an example to reply to Tony. My point was that just because it's not documented doesn't always mean it's not possible. My question had nothing to do with the D-Link card - was just an example. Ben On Tue, 2004-01-20 at 11:01, Luca Capello wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > Hello, > > on 01/20/04 18:51, Benjamin Krein wrote: > > never know for sure unless you ask. For instance, my D-Link 650+ card > > is also not really supported and the chipset is not documented, but with > > some research and asking appropriate questions I was able to get it to > > do a lot of things it *shouldn't* be able to do. > well, what I'm going to write is a bad reply for this list and for the > NDISwrapper project, but I think it could be useful. > > If I were you, Ben, I'll use the 'acx100' driver at http://acx100.sf.net > for the D-Link DWL-650+: during my Xmas holidays (about 10 days) I tried > it by myself on my Debian GNU/Linux & kernel 2.6.1 (my brother has such > a card) and it works very well with the GNOME2 Wireless Link Monitor. > IMHO I see no reasons to use a wrapper when there's a native driver > available. > > Thx, bye, > Gismo / Luca > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) > Comment: Using GnuPG with Debian - http://enigmail.mozdev.org > > iD8DBQFADWzqVAp7Xm10JmkRAi+5AJ9xyx+6Y4uzS/uLpEa0H1BPAA714wCgi6Pz > pD8O5M5Br4BdWcfFuq5rWuk= > =+8Cr > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > The SF.Net email is sponsored by EclipseCon 2004 > Premiere Conference on Open Tools Development and Integration > See the breadth of Eclipse activity. February 3-5 in Anaheim, CA. > http://www.eclipsecon.org/osdn > _______________________________________________ > Ndiswrapper-general mailing list > Ndi...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/ndiswrapper-general |
From: Jochen S. <jrs...@we...> - 2004-01-20 18:30:23
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Luca Capello: > on 01/20/04 18:51, Benjamin Krein wrote: > > If I were you, Ben, I'll use the 'acx100' driver at http://acx100.sf.net > for the D-Link DWL-650+: during my Xmas holidays (about 10 days) I tried > it by myself on my Debian GNU/Linux & kernel 2.6.1 (my brother has such > a card) and it works very well with the GNOME2 Wireless Link Monitor. You previously wrote you are using Centrino WLAN. That means you are using the Intel Pro Wireless 2100 with the acx100 driver? If so, please consider submitting this information to that project. I think many people (including me) would love to hear such news. > IMHO I see no reasons to use a wrapper when there's a native driver > available. If it was working, it would be great. Jochen. -- if you can't get a life, please at least get a sense of humor! [http://people.debian.org/~branden/] |
From: Luca C. <lu...@pc...> - 2004-01-20 18:40:07
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-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hello, on 01/20/04 19:29, Jochen Schulz wrote: > You previously wrote you are using Centrino WLAN. That means you are > using the Intel Pro Wireless 2100 with the acx100 driver? If so, please > consider submitting this information to that project. I think many > people (including me) would love to hear such news. sorry Jochen for the bad news, but there was a missunderstanding. Here what I wrote: on 01/20/04 19:01, Luca Capello wrote: > If I were you, Ben, I'll use the 'acx100' driver at http://acx100.sf.net > for the D-Link DWL-650+: If I'll have a D-Link DWL-650+ I'll use the 'acx100' driver. > during my Xmas holidays (about 10 days) I tried > it by myself on my Debian GNU/Linux & kernel 2.6.1 (my brother has such > a card) and it works very well with the GNOME2 Wireless Link Monitor. During last Xmas holidays I was at my parents' in Italy: my brother lives with them and he has a D-Link DWL-650+. I tried his card (so the D-Link DWL-650+, a PCMCIA one) on my laptop because: - - my DriverLoader license for the Intel Centrino was expired - - I didn't know the NDISwrapper already supported the Intel Centrino I hope now it's more intelligible :-) Thx, bye, Gismo / Luca BTW I never tried *any* other driver for my Intel Centrino, AFAIK it's a bit different from any other WiFi card and even from the Intel 2011 one (for which there're native drivers) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Debian - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFADXU4VAp7Xm10JmkRAmPdAJ4pNDkhR1iNZlnqv7Tf43XbC+3X0gCgiXm5 qYI68bzQwZuQN0o+A6S3MDs= =qcWh -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- |
From: Giridhar P. <gi...@lm...> - 2004-01-20 19:00:45
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I don't quite know what KDE/GNOME wireless applets expect, so can't answer the question. But here is some clarification: The signal strength reported by ndiswrapper is correct. Link quality is something I compute from all the information available through NDIS calls. This number should be near 100 under normal circumstances (this behavior is different from other drivers, but there is no standard on this). If someone who can dig up or know these applets and send me a patch or at least a small document on what the link quality is displayed, then I can change the quality computation (basically, I will scale it so the applets will be happy). If either (or even any) of the applets displays signal strength wrongly, then it should be a simple matter of looking for what they want, as 'iwconfig' displays the strength properly. -- Giri |
From: Martin W. <mar...@nt...> - 2004-01-20 23:47:41
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Giridhar Pemmasani wrote: > I don't quite know what KDE/GNOME wireless applets expect, so can't > answer the question. But here is some clarification: > > The signal strength reported by ndiswrapper is correct. Link quality > is something I compute from all the information available through NDIS > calls. This number should be near 100 under normal circumstances (this > behavior is different from other drivers, but there is no standard on > this). If someone who can dig up or know these applets and send me a > patch or at least a small document on what the link quality is > displayed, then I can change the quality computation (basically, I > will scale it so the applets will be happy). > > If either (or even any) of the applets displays signal strength > wrongly, then it should be a simple matter of looking for what they > want, as 'iwconfig' displays the strength properly. The Gnome wireless applet bases its "signal strength" display on the link quality (not on the signal strength!). The display is expressed as a percentage, calculated by percentage = 100 * log(link_quality) / log(92) (clipped to the range 0 to 100) Unfortunately, using the Centrino driver, the link quality is always zero. Martin |
From: Jochen S. <jrs...@ne...> - 2004-01-20 20:19:12
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Luca Capello: > > sorry Jochen for the bad news, but there was a missunderstanding. Here > what I wrote: > > on 01/20/04 19:01, Luca Capello wrote: >> If I were you, Ben, I'll use the 'acx100' driver at http://acx100.sf.net >> for the D-Link DWL-650+: > If I'll have a D-Link DWL-650+ I'll use the 'acx100' driver. Ah, ok. I had somehow expected that I got you wrong. > I hope now it's more intelligible :-) It is, thank you. Jochen. -- "I speak better English than this villain Bush" -- Mohammed Saeed al-Sahaf |
From: Luca C. <lu...@pc...> - 2004-01-22 21:20:22
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-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hello, on 01/20/04 19:59, Giridhar Pemmasani wrote: > The signal strength reported by ndiswrapper is correct. Link quality how much is the maximum? I mean, my AP is one meter from me and I've a signal strength of -45dBm: is it rigth? Thx, bye, Gismo / Luca -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Debian - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFAED2mVAp7Xm10JmkRAmAnAJ4lKML+zES6PRU9XPX/Vy7sKhXtVQCfeGXQ yk5QotKWGOpH3TGvwWhCeUc= =Wr+U -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- |
From: Tolunay O. <to...@or...> - 2004-01-22 22:27:19
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Your Received signal power looks OK... The maximum really depends on the Tx power of your AP and the antenna (space loss will be constant for such short distance at LOS) Typical AP nowadays has a power between 20mW (13dBm) to 63mW (18dBm) output power. The most common are around 30-50mW (15-17dBm). I am writing this message in Windows XP and Dell TrueMobile 1400 utility gives -30dBm signal power (less is better in negative values) and -84dBm for Noise power. The AP power is 50mW. I can go as far as 25-30ft before the signal power goes below -45dBm. Of couse there is also a regulatory maximum. For ETSI the TX power is limited to 100mW (20dBm) as far as I know whereas in the US, FCC limit for 2.4Ghz band is 1W (30dBm) for the radio and the EIRP (power including the antenna gain) is limited to 4W (36dBm) for point to multi-point applications. For P2P applications, you can have higher EIRP by reducing the Tx power and increasing the antenna gain per FCC regulations. Regards, Tolunay > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > Hello, > > on 01/20/04 19:59, Giridhar Pemmasani wrote: >> The signal strength reported by ndiswrapper is correct. Link quality > how much is the maximum? I mean, my AP is one meter from me and I've a > signal strength of -45dBm: is it rigth? > > Thx, bye, > Gismo / Luca > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) > Comment: Using GnuPG with Debian - http://enigmail.mozdev.org > > iD8DBQFAED2mVAp7Xm10JmkRAmAnAJ4lKML+zES6PRU9XPX/Vy7sKhXtVQCfeGXQ > yk5QotKWGOpH3TGvwWhCeUc= > =Wr+U > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > The SF.Net email is sponsored by EclipseCon 2004 > Premiere Conference on Open Tools Development and Integration > See the breadth of Eclipse activity. February 3-5 in Anaheim, CA. > http://www.eclipsecon.org/osdn > _______________________________________________ > Ndiswrapper-general mailing list > Ndi...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/ndiswrapper-general > |
From: <lis...@or...> - 2004-01-20 18:16:44
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> Benjamin Krein wrote: >> Has anyone gotten the wifi applets in either KDE (KWiFiManager) or Gnome >> (WiFi Panel Applet) to work with the ndiswrapper cards? I can't get any >> information from either applet. > > Without wishing to seem rude, from the FAQ at > http://ndiswrapper.sourceforge.net/faq.html > > "Windows drivers don't support link quality and noise level. Some > drivers may use undocumented features to display them in Windows, but > these are specific to those cards and unless the vendor discloses them, > it is not possible to support these features. (This is the reason why in > Windows you need to install wireless monitoring tool supplied by the > vendor, instead of native Windows application displaying it.) So it is > not possible to have quality/noise level availalbe in ndiswrapper. All > the information available through NDIS calls can be seen in > /proc/net/ndiswrapper/wlan0/stats." I don't think the statement regarding Windows is entirely true. It seems that Windows XP based drivers have some sort of signal strength exposed since Windows Wireless Zero Configuration utility (which is vendor independent) can display a graphical signal strength using standard Windows interface. Quote from: http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=313242 " If you encounter issues when you try to connect to the network, double-click the Wireless Connection icon in the Network Connections folder to view the connection status. In the connection status, there is a signal strength meter that you can use to verify the strength of the signal between computers." Also see: http://is.med.ohio-state.edu/Wireless%20FAQ.htm The signal strength display is visible on this document. Please note again that these are not vendor supplied. These are standard Windows XP so this implies there is a standard way in XP NDIS 5.1 Wireless drivers to report this to OS. It might not be obvious but there is a way.... As a final remark, on Windows XP, the popular Windows Utility NetStumbler can report signal strength and noise strength if the card is recognized by Windows Wireless Zero Configuration. Best regards, Tolunay |
From: elias p. <eli...@gm...> - 2004-01-20 21:45:29
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Hi everyone I'm using kwireless (http://kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=9827) and it works fine with /proc/net/wireless. Using a Broadcom card (BCM94306 802.11g (rev 02)), running on ndiswrapper-cvs (Jan. 12th, 2004) and Kernel-2.6.1. Greetings Elias P. Am Dienstag, 20. Januar 2004 17:48 schrieb Benjamin Krein: > Has anyone gotten the wifi applets in either KDE (KWiFiManager) or Gnome > (WiFi Panel Applet) to work with the ndiswrapper cards? I can't get any > information from either applet. > > Ben > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > The SF.Net email is sponsored by EclipseCon 2004 > Premiere Conference on Open Tools Development and Integration > See the breadth of Eclipse activity. February 3-5 in Anaheim, CA. > http://www.eclipsecon.org/osdn > _______________________________________________ > Ndiswrapper-general mailing list > Ndi...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/ndiswrapper-general |
From: Benjamin K. <sup...@su...> - 2004-01-21 03:46:04
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Anyone good at coding that can patch the Gnome applet to work off of signal strength instead? Ben On Tue, 2004-01-20 at 16:48, Martin Whitaker wrote: > Giridhar Pemmasani wrote: > > I don't quite know what KDE/GNOME wireless applets expect, so can't > > answer the question. But here is some clarification: > > > > The signal strength reported by ndiswrapper is correct. Link quality > > is something I compute from all the information available through NDIS > > calls. This number should be near 100 under normal circumstances (this > > behavior is different from other drivers, but there is no standard on > > this). If someone who can dig up or know these applets and send me a > > patch or at least a small document on what the link quality is > > displayed, then I can change the quality computation (basically, I > > will scale it so the applets will be happy). > > > > If either (or even any) of the applets displays signal strength > > wrongly, then it should be a simple matter of looking for what they > > want, as 'iwconfig' displays the strength properly. > > The Gnome wireless applet bases its "signal strength" display on the > link quality (not on the signal strength!). The display is expressed as > a percentage, calculated by > > percentage = 100 * log(link_quality) / log(92) > > (clipped to the range 0 to 100) > > Unfortunately, using the Centrino driver, the link quality is always zero. > > Martin > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > The SF.Net email is sponsored by EclipseCon 2004 > Premiere Conference on Open Tools Development and Integration > See the breadth of Eclipse activity. February 3-5 in Anaheim, CA. > http://www.eclipsecon.org/osdn > _______________________________________________ > Ndiswrapper-general mailing list > Ndi...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/ndiswrapper-general |
From: <lis...@or...> - 2004-01-22 21:10:15
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> Anyone good at coding that can patch the Gnome applet to work off of > signal strength instead? Well, I don't think Gnome applet should be patched as it is not necessarily doing something wrong. Better approach would be calculate (derive) a link quality value from Signal Strength by Ndiswrapper. A true link quality would be based on SNR. However, for our case it could be some function based on signal strength and packet error (or bit error) rate per period. Best regards, Tolunay |
From: Luca C. <lu...@pc...> - 2004-01-21 09:11:32
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-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hello, on 01/21/04 04:39, Benjamin Krein wrote: > Anyone good at coding that can patch the Gnome applet to work off of > signal strength instead? <cut> > On Tue, 2004-01-20 at 16:48, Martin Whitaker wrote: >>The Gnome wireless applet bases its "signal strength" display on the >>link quality (not on the signal strength!). The display is expressed as >>a percentage, calculated by >> >> percentage = 100 * log(link_quality) / log(92) >> >>(clipped to the range 0 to 100) >> >>Unfortunately, using the Centrino driver, the link quality is always zero. which one is the /correct/ one? I mean, which (the 'link quality' or the 'signal strength') should be an indicator of your network connection? Because if the right one is the 'signal strength', IMHO the patch should be addressed to the GNOME Wireless Link Monitor, while on the contrary the patch should be against the NDISwrapper. Here the definition from 'man iwconfig': - - Link quality Overall quality of the link. May be based on the level of con- tention or interference, the bit or frame error rate, how good the received signal is, some timing synchronisation, or other hardware metric. This is an aggregate value, and depends totally on the driver and hardware. - Signal level Received signal strength (RSSI - how strong the received signal is). May be arbitrary units or dBm, iwconfig uses driver meta information to interpret the raw value given by /proc/net/wire- less and display the proper unit or maximum value (using 8 bit arithmetic). In Ad-Hoc mode, this may be undefined and you should use iwspy. IMHO, as the name of the GNOME Wireless *Link* Monitor suggest, it's correct for it to read the 'link quality': if I have a good signal but I'm not linked with the AP, there're no reasons the GNOME WiFi shows blue ligth. On the contrary, bad signal and linked to an AP, well, the blue ligth should be on. If I missed something, please someone correct me. Thx, bye, Gismo / Luca -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Debian - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFADkF0VAp7Xm10JmkRAoEPAKCJHaOin3IeCPR9DygPB2fCdF/B/ACbBSz6 ID0OUFMxG86Njl5/cufFHUc= =7ZMs -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- |