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From: Matthew K. <mk...@ma...> - 2005-08-23 18:52:55
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Hey Ben, just looking at the pgwrapper stuff you added a while back and I think it's great and exactly what the mysql implementation needs as well. Have you happened upon a similar implementation for mysql? I'm thinking I'll write one and draw up a new version of my neb based on mysql 5.0 so I can use triggers and stored procs this time around. Plus I figure by the time I get a good interface together MySQL 5 will probably go from beta to stable anyway :) On the interface front I really never did find a suitable framework for recreating a better version of the nagios cgis in PHP. The time investment to create one properly from scratch was just too much (partly because I'm not fantastic with php in the first place). So I've been learning ruby for the past couple months with the goal of writing it in ruby on rails. Ideally it should keep me from having to write the nitty gritty stuff like authentication, caching and template support and focus more on presenting the data. Has anyone listening on this list developed with ruby on rails and is interested in helping? -- Matthew Kent <mk...@ma...> http://magoazul.com |
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From: Andreas E. <and...@op...> - 2005-08-23 19:18:38
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Matthew Kent wrote: > Hey Ben, just looking at the pgwrapper stuff you added a while back and > I think it's great and exactly what the mysql implementation needs as > well. Have you happened upon a similar implementation for mysql? > > I'm thinking I'll write one and draw up a new version of my neb based on > mysql 5.0 so I can use triggers and stored procs this time around. Plus > I figure by the time I get a good interface together MySQL 5 will > probably go from beta to stable anyway :) > > On the interface front I really never did find a suitable framework for > recreating a better version of the nagios cgis in PHP. The time > investment to create one properly from scratch was just too much (partly > because I'm not fantastic with php in the first place). So I've been > learning ruby for the past couple months with the goal of writing it in > ruby on rails. Ideally it should keep me from having to write the nitty > gritty stuff like authentication, caching and template support and focus > more on presenting the data. > > Has anyone listening on this list developed with ruby on rails and is > interested in helping? Can't say that I have, but we might be able to give you a load off from that anyways though. We'll be developing a GUI with everything and sugar on top, and we'll most likely base it on one (or both) of the database modules. We in this case means OP5, the company I work for. The resulting code will be GPL'd and released to the public. Incidentally, we're also looking for developers (C, Perl, PHP and SQL mainly, with some shell and possibly Python thrown in for good measure). Interested? -- Andreas Ericsson and...@op... OP5 AB www.op5.se Lead Developer |
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From: Ben <be...@si...> - 2005-08-23 21:21:47
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Regarding the pgwrapper stuff, I wrote that for another project, and included it in here too, because, like say, it's pretty useful. I haven't seen anything similar for mysql, but then again I haven't touched mysql for 6 years, and the last time I did I was much less mature and wouldn't have been looking for something like pgwrapper anyway. Regarding a ruby on rails interface, I couldn't help you, but I say go for it, at the very least as a learning experience. I hear nothing but good things about that, assuming you want a web app. I'll be sure to clean out your incomplete php template scheme for the next nagios-db package release, which I (really do) plan on releasing Real Soon Now. Regarding a whole new GUI, I have to wonder why start that process from scratch? I don't know if you've looked at groundwork's new stuff, but I took a gander at it today, and it appears to show promise. Granted, it's not yet complete, but it's GPL'd as well, and appears to be mature and somewhat polished, as far as it goes. Obviously, you probably have your reasons.... I'm just curious what they are. :) And I guess if you're going to base it off the nagios-db stuff, then you're not really starting from scatch anyway. On Tue, 23 Aug 2005, Andreas Ericsson wrote: > Matthew Kent wrote: > > Hey Ben, just looking at the pgwrapper stuff you added a while back and > > I think it's great and exactly what the mysql implementation needs as > > well. Have you happened upon a similar implementation for mysql? > > > > I'm thinking I'll write one and draw up a new version of my neb based on > > mysql 5.0 so I can use triggers and stored procs this time around. Plus > > I figure by the time I get a good interface together MySQL 5 will > > probably go from beta to stable anyway :) > > > > On the interface front I really never did find a suitable framework for > > recreating a better version of the nagios cgis in PHP. The time > > investment to create one properly from scratch was just too much (partly > > because I'm not fantastic with php in the first place). So I've been > > learning ruby for the past couple months with the goal of writing it in > > ruby on rails. Ideally it should keep me from having to write the nitty > > gritty stuff like authentication, caching and template support and focus > > more on presenting the data. > > > > Has anyone listening on this list developed with ruby on rails and is > > interested in helping? > > > Can't say that I have, but we might be able to give you a load off from > that anyways though. > > We'll be developing a GUI with everything and sugar on top, and we'll > most likely base it on one (or both) of the database modules. > > We in this case means OP5, the company I work for. The resulting code > will be GPL'd and released to the public. > > Incidentally, we're also looking for developers (C, Perl, PHP and SQL > mainly, with some shell and possibly Python thrown in for good measure). > Interested? > > -- > Andreas Ericsson and...@op... > OP5 AB www.op5.se > Lead Developer > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > SF.Net email is Sponsored by the Better Software Conference & EXPO > September 19-22, 2005 * San Francisco, CA * Development Lifecycle Practices > Agile & Plan-Driven Development * Managing Projects & Teams * Testing & QA > Security * Process Improvement & Measurement * http://www.sqe.com/bsce5sf > _______________________________________________ > Nagios-db-devel mailing list > Nag...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/nagios-db-devel > |
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From: Matthew K. <mk...@ma...> - 2005-08-23 22:30:05
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On Tue, 2005-23-08 at 14:21 -0700, Ben wrote: > Regarding the pgwrapper stuff, I wrote that for another project, and > included it in here too, because, like say, it's pretty useful. I haven't > seen anything similar for mysql, but then again I haven't touched mysql > for 6 years, and the last time I did I was much less mature and wouldn't > have been looking for something like pgwrapper anyway. > > Regarding a ruby on rails interface, I couldn't help you, but I say go for > it, at the very least as a learning experience. I hear nothing but good > things about that, assuming you want a web app. > > I'll be sure to clean out your incomplete php template scheme for the next > nagios-db package release, which I (really do) plan on releasing Real Soon > Now. > Yeah please nuke away :) > Regarding a whole new GUI, I have to wonder why start that process from > scratch? I don't know if you've looked at groundwork's new stuff, but I > took a gander at it today, and it appears to show promise. Granted, it's > not yet complete, but it's GPL'd as well, and appears to be mature and > somewhat polished, as far as it goes. > Yeah I took a look at the 'Groundwork Status Viewer' a week or so back, from what I can tell discern its a nagios 1.x addition which pulls data out of the flatfiles still though. Wonder if extending it to 2.x with full database support via an neb module would be something they're working on... but maybe it's been discussed, I'm out of the loop on the nagios-users list. I wonder how well it scales. > Obviously, you probably have your reasons.... I'm just curious what they > are. :) And I guess if you're going to base it off the nagios-db stuff, > then you're not really starting from scatch anyway. > Not sure if this is directed at me or Andreas, but I won't be working on anything beyond the neb module for public consumption unless my learning/experimenting with ruby on rails produces something uniquely useful. > On Tue, 23 Aug 2005, Andreas Ericsson wrote: > > > Matthew Kent wrote: > > > Hey Ben, just looking at the pgwrapper stuff you added a while back and > > > I think it's great and exactly what the mysql implementation needs as > > > well. Have you happened upon a similar implementation for mysql? > > > > > > I'm thinking I'll write one and draw up a new version of my neb based on > > > mysql 5.0 so I can use triggers and stored procs this time around. Plus > > > I figure by the time I get a good interface together MySQL 5 will > > > probably go from beta to stable anyway :) > > > > > > On the interface front I really never did find a suitable framework for > > > recreating a better version of the nagios cgis in PHP. The time > > > investment to create one properly from scratch was just too much (partly > > > because I'm not fantastic with php in the first place). So I've been > > > learning ruby for the past couple months with the goal of writing it in > > > ruby on rails. Ideally it should keep me from having to write the nitty > > > gritty stuff like authentication, caching and template support and focus > > > more on presenting the data. > > > > > > Has anyone listening on this list developed with ruby on rails and is > > > interested in helping? > > > > > > Can't say that I have, but we might be able to give you a load off from > > that anyways though. > > > > We'll be developing a GUI with everything and sugar on top, and we'll > > most likely base it on one (or both) of the database modules. > > > > We in this case means OP5, the company I work for. The resulting code > > will be GPL'd and released to the public. > > > > Incidentally, we're also looking for developers (C, Perl, PHP and SQL > > mainly, with some shell and possibly Python thrown in for good measure). > > Interested? > > > > -- > > Andreas Ericsson and...@op... > > OP5 AB www.op5.se > > Lead Developer > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > > SF.Net email is Sponsored by the Better Software Conference & EXPO > > September 19-22, 2005 * San Francisco, CA * Development Lifecycle Practices > > Agile & Plan-Driven Development * Managing Projects & Teams * Testing & QA > > Security * Process Improvement & Measurement * http://www.sqe.com/bsce5sf > > _______________________________________________ > > Nagios-db-devel mailing list > > Nag...@li... > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/nagios-db-devel > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > SF.Net email is Sponsored by the Better Software Conference & EXPO > September 19-22, 2005 * San Francisco, CA * Development Lifecycle Practices > Agile & Plan-Driven Development * Managing Projects & Teams * Testing & QA > Security * Process Improvement & Measurement * http://www.sqe.com/bsce5sf > _______________________________________________ > Nagios-db-devel mailing list > Nag...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/nagios-db-devel -- Matthew Kent <mk...@ma...> http://magoazul.com |
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From: Andreas E. <ae...@op...> - 2005-08-23 22:31:01
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Ben wrote: > Regarding a whole new GUI, I have to wonder why start that process from > scratch? I don't know if you've looked at groundwork's new stuff, but I > took a gander at it today, and it appears to show promise. Granted, it's > not yet complete, but it's GPL'd as well, and appears to be mature and > somewhat polished, as far as it goes. > It has too many dependencies though, so it's not really something that is likely to catch on. > Obviously, you probably have your reasons.... I'm just curious what they > are. :) And I guess if you're going to base it off the nagios-db stuff, > then you're not really starting from scatch anyway. > We will (start from scratch, that is). We need to get design proper from the start, because we'll be wanting to be able to hook in pretty much anything pretty much anywhere. Sort of module-based PHP. > On Tue, 23 Aug 2005, Andreas Ericsson wrote: > > >>Matthew Kent wrote: >> >>>Hey Ben, just looking at the pgwrapper stuff you added a while back and >>>I think it's great and exactly what the mysql implementation needs as >>>well. Have you happened upon a similar implementation for mysql? >>> >>>I'm thinking I'll write one and draw up a new version of my neb based on >>>mysql 5.0 so I can use triggers and stored procs this time around. Plus >>>I figure by the time I get a good interface together MySQL 5 will >>>probably go from beta to stable anyway :) >>> >>>On the interface front I really never did find a suitable framework for >>>recreating a better version of the nagios cgis in PHP. The time >>>investment to create one properly from scratch was just too much (partly >>>because I'm not fantastic with php in the first place). So I've been >>>learning ruby for the past couple months with the goal of writing it in >>>ruby on rails. Ideally it should keep me from having to write the nitty >>>gritty stuff like authentication, caching and template support and focus >>>more on presenting the data. >>> >>>Has anyone listening on this list developed with ruby on rails and is >>>interested in helping? >> >> >>Can't say that I have, but we might be able to give you a load off from >>that anyways though. >> >>We'll be developing a GUI with everything and sugar on top, and we'll >>most likely base it on one (or both) of the database modules. >> >>We in this case means OP5, the company I work for. The resulting code >>will be GPL'd and released to the public. >> >>Incidentally, we're also looking for developers (C, Perl, PHP and SQL >>mainly, with some shell and possibly Python thrown in for good measure). >>Interested? >> >>-- >>Andreas Ericsson and...@op... >>OP5 AB www.op5.se >>Lead Developer >> >> >>------------------------------------------------------- >>SF.Net email is Sponsored by the Better Software Conference & EXPO >>September 19-22, 2005 * San Francisco, CA * Development Lifecycle Practices >>Agile & Plan-Driven Development * Managing Projects & Teams * Testing & QA >>Security * Process Improvement & Measurement * http://www.sqe.com/bsce5sf >>_______________________________________________ >>Nagios-db-devel mailing list >>Nag...@li... >>https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/nagios-db-devel >> > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > SF.Net email is Sponsored by the Better Software Conference & EXPO > September 19-22, 2005 * San Francisco, CA * Development Lifecycle Practices > Agile & Plan-Driven Development * Managing Projects & Teams * Testing & QA > Security * Process Improvement & Measurement * http://www.sqe.com/bsce5sf > _______________________________________________ > Nagios-db-devel mailing list > Nag...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/nagios-db-devel > -- Andreas Ericsson and...@op... OP5 AB www.op5.se Lead Developer |
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From: Matthew K. <mk...@ma...> - 2005-08-23 21:44:29
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On Tue, 2005-23-08 at 21:18 +0200, Andreas Ericsson wrote: > Matthew Kent wrote: > > Hey Ben, just looking at the pgwrapper stuff you added a while back and > > I think it's great and exactly what the mysql implementation needs as > > well. Have you happened upon a similar implementation for mysql? > > > > I'm thinking I'll write one and draw up a new version of my neb based on > > mysql 5.0 so I can use triggers and stored procs this time around. Plus > > I figure by the time I get a good interface together MySQL 5 will > > probably go from beta to stable anyway :) > > > > On the interface front I really never did find a suitable framework for > > recreating a better version of the nagios cgis in PHP. The time > > investment to create one properly from scratch was just too much (partly > > because I'm not fantastic with php in the first place). So I've been > > learning ruby for the past couple months with the goal of writing it in > > ruby on rails. Ideally it should keep me from having to write the nitty > > gritty stuff like authentication, caching and template support and focus > > more on presenting the data. > > > > Has anyone listening on this list developed with ruby on rails and is > > interested in helping? > > > Can't say that I have, but we might be able to give you a load off from > that anyways though. > > We'll be developing a GUI with everything and sugar on top, and we'll > most likely base it on one (or both) of the database modules. > > We in this case means OP5, the company I work for. The resulting code > will be GPL'd and released to the public. > > Incidentally, we're also looking for developers (C, Perl, PHP and SQL > mainly, with some shell and possibly Python thrown in for good measure). > Interested? > Oh cool, that's good to hear. I'll work on getting the mysql module up to par and see how close I can get to unifying the views and stored procs to match the postgres module (with the goal being to make any future interface abstraction easier). I'd be more than willing to help with any database work, but since we are switching to ruby on rails at work it's in my best interest to spend my free time learning about it for now. -- Matthew Kent <mk...@ma...> http://magoazul.com |
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