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[Mutsu-developers] CVS instructions for Project Builder

[Martin F. <ma...@sc...>]

Phil and Loek,

The problem with the cvswrappers has been fixed, so CVS is working 
again. And I finally have had success to get CVS to work with Project 
Builder. Here's the rundown:

1) I switched back to the tcsh shell. All the following is for this 
shell which I understand you are both using (it's the default shell with 
Mac OS X). Add the following lines to your .cshrc file (which is in your 
home directory):

setenv CVS_RSH ssh
alias my.pbproj '/Developer/Applications/"Project 
Builder.app"/Contents/MacOS/"Project Builder" &'

2) Set up SSH on Sourceforge to not use a password but your public key. 
I decided to use the DSA key (you could also use RSA or SSH1 keys). if 
you haven't done so already, run the following in your shell

ssh-keygen dsa

This will create private and public DSA keys. Don't enter a passphrase. 
The public key is in your home directory

.ssh/id_dsa.pub

Now log on to your sourceforge account and go to

https://sourceforge.net/account/editsshkeys.php

Paste in the contents from the id_dsa.pub file. You now have to wait 6 
hours before the key is propagated through the Sourceforge servers. You 
should then be able to log in with ssh without a password. Try this in 
your shell where username is your username

ssh -l username shell.sourceforge.net

3) You initially have to checkout your project with the command-line cvs 
client. To check out the test module in your current working directory, 
type

cvs -z3 -d:ext:use...@cv...:/cvsroot/mutsu co test

Where username is your username.

4) For added security you can generate a public key with passphrase, but 
I haven't tried this. You then have to use ssh-agent to remember your 
passphrase, because you can't enter a passphrase in Project Builder. Let 
me know if you need detailed instructions for this.

5) Launch Project Builder from the command line using the alias we 
defined above:

my.pbproj

6) Enjoy!. The leftmost column in the Project Builder Fles window tells 
you the CVS status of a file.

7) To-Do list:

Passphrase integration
Which Project Builder files need to be in the repository?
Setting up cvswrappers for binary files

- Martin

[Mutsu-developers] CVS instructions for Project Builder

[Martin F. <ma...@sc...>]

Phil and Loek,

The problem with the cvswrappers has been fixed, so CVS is working 
again. And I finally have had success to get CVS to work with Project 
Builder. Here's the rundown:

1) I switched back to the tcsh shell. All the following is for this 
shell which I understand you are both using (it's the default shell with 
Mac OS X). Add the following lines to your .cshrc file (which is in your 
home directory):

setenv CVS_RSH ssh
alias my.pbproj '/Developer/Applications/"Project 
Builder.app"/Contents/MacOS/"Project Builder" &'

2) Set up SSH on Sourceforge to not use a password but your public key. 
I decided to use the DSA key (you could also use RSA or SSH1 keys). if 
you haven't done so already, run the following in your shell

ssh-keygen dsa

This will create private and public DSA keys. Don't enter a passphrase. 
The public key is in your home directory

.ssh/id_dsa.pub

Now log on to your sourceforge account and go to

https://sourceforge.net/account/editsshkeys.php

Paste in the contents from the id_dsa.pub file. You now have to wait 6 
hours before the key is propagated through the Sourceforge servers. You 
should then be able to log in with ssh without a password. Try this in 
your shell where username is your username

ssh -l username shell.sourceforge.net

3) You initially have to checkout your project with the command-line cvs 
client. To check out the test module in your current working directory, 
type

cvs -z3 -d:ext:use...@cv...:/cvsroot/mutsu co test

Where username is your username.

4) For added security you can generate a public key with passphrase, but 
I haven't tried this. You then have to use ssh-agent to remember your 
passphrase, because you can't enter a passphrase in Project Builder. Let 
me know if you need detailed instructions for this.

5) Launch Project Builder from the command line using the alias we 
defined above:

my.pbproj

6) Enjoy!. The leftmost column in the Project Builder Fles window tells 
you the CVS status of a file.

7) To-Do list:

Passphrase integration
Which Project Builder files need to be in the repository?
Setting up cvswrappers for binary files

- Martin

[Mutsu-developers] MacPar and Split & Concat released

[Martin F. <ma...@sc...>]

Loek,

I see that you released your two applications for regular download. Do 
you want to announce them in the Mutsu news section (I'm not sure your 
permissions allow you to do this)?

- Martin

[Mutsu-developers] Gaining access to CVS...

[Phil D. <phi...@ma...>]

>Loek,

>I hope you haven't lost your patience with CVS.

>> It seems that something with the -t or -f wrappers is wrong.
>>I created a new problem today by changing the cvswrappers file in the 
>>Mutsu repository, until that is fixed by Sourceforge (hopefully very 
>>soon) nothing works.

> I tried <enter> as a password or my login password for loekjehe
> without any success (see below).

>>You should enter your password when you login with the ext method over 
>>SSH. The pserver method is for anonymous CVS and doesn't need SSH or a 
>>password (but the files are read-only).

> Could not chdir to home directory /home/users/l/lo/loekjehe: No such 
> file or directory

>>You first have to login to cvs.mutsu.sourceforge.net with SSH so that 
>>your home directory gets created - you will be immediately logged out 
>>again.

I, too, have made my own SSH password for MUTSU without success.

This is adhering strictly to SourceForge rules.

Maybe we should get together on this...

Regards,

Phil.

Re: [Mutsu-developers] MacPar and Split&Concat available by CVS

[Martin F. <ma...@sc...>]

Loek,

I hope you haven't lost your patience with CVS.

> It seems that something with the -t or -f wrappers is wrong.

I created a new problem today by changing the cvswrappers file in the 
Mutsu repository, until that is fixed by Sourceforge (hopefully very 
soon) nothing works.

> I tried <enter> as a password or my login password for loekjehe
> without any success (see below).

You should enter your password when you login with the ext method over 
SSH. The pserver method is for anonymous CVS and doesn't need SSH or a 
password (but the files are read-only).

> Could not chdir to home directory /home/users/l/lo/loekjehe: No such 
> file or directory

You first have to login to cvs.mutsu.sourceforge.net with SSH so that 
your home directory gets created - you will be immediately logged out 
again.

- Martin

Re: [Mutsu-developers] CVS instructions

[Martin F. <ma...@sc...>]

Phil,

> Is the CVS uplaod proceedure the same for me (obviously changing 
> username/pasword/module name).

Importing a file into CVS is a bit trickier, I suggest you mail me your 
project and I do that for you. If you insist on doing it yourself, do 
the following from the top level of your project (where username is your 
username and modulename is the name of your module):

setenv CVS_RSH='ssh'
cvs -z3 -d:ext:use...@cv...:/cvsroot/mutsu import 
-m "Initial import" modulename phildobbin start

I'm working on using CVS with Project Builder. There are two issues a) 
set the environment variable CVS_RSH and b) provide a password for SSH.

Environment variable CVS_RSH
Most people suggest to set the variable in your shell account and then 
start Project Builder from the command line. If you use the tcsh that is 
standard on Mac OS X, you can add setenv CVS_RSH='ssh' to the following 
file:

/usr/share/init/environment

SSH Password
The easiest way is to generate a public SSH key and store it on the 
Sourceforge server. Go to your account web page for instructions. If you 
use your key with a passphrase, you need to start SSH-agent and enter 
the passphrase before using Project Builder.

The Mutsu CVS current doesn't work because of another problem, you get 
the following error message

-t/-f wrappers not supported by this version of CVS

This is because the Sourceforge CVS doesn't work with the cvswrappers 
file that is included with the Apple Developer Tools (cvswrappers are a 
way to deal with binary files). I let you know when this works again.

All this CVS stuff is tricky, but will be worth the effort.

- Martin

[Mutsu-developers] MacPar and Split&Concat available by CVS

[Martin F. <ma...@sc...>]

Loek,

both the MacPar and Split&Concat sources are now available by CVS. You 
can check them out into your working directory using

setenv CVS_RSH='ssh'
cvs -z3 -d:ext:use...@cv...:/cvsroot/mutsu co 
modulename

Where username is your username and modulename is either macpar or 
splitandconcat. This works with the tcsh that is standard on Mac OS X. 
For the bash shell, set your CVS_RSH variable with export CVS_RSH=ssh. 
If you only need read access, use

cvs -d:pserver:ano...@cv...:/cvsroot/mutsu login
cvs -z3 -d:pserver:ano...@cv...:/cvsroot/mutsu co 
modulename

Press enter when asked for a password, modulename is either macpar or 
splitandconcat.

The modules named test and mutsuadmin is for testing. Feel free to 
read/write to the test module.

- Martin

[Mutsu-developers] File Downloads

[Martin F. <ma...@sc...>]

Loek,

let me know when you want to release your files for regular downloads. 
Sourceforge has a nice system to make files available for download, and 
I gave both Phil and you permissions to do that for the Mutsu project. I 
would suggest that you include the sources with the download. You can 
also mail me the files you want to release, and I post them.

- Martin

[Mutsu-developers] Welcome to the mutsu-developers mailing list

[Martin F. <ma...@sc...>]

Loek and Phil,

welcome to the mutsu-developers mailing list. After I saw that the list 
was already subscribed by three robots, I decided to make it a private 
mailing list. Only list subscribers can read or post messages. Currently 
there are three subscribers and I will add everybody who joins Mutsu as 
a developer. For subscription options, including the list of subscribed 
people, send a message to <mailto:Mutsu-developers-
re...@li...> with the word `help' in the subject or 
body (don't include the quotes), and you will get back a message with 
instructions.

- Martin

[Mutsu-developers] Welcome to the Mutsu-Developers Mailing List

[Martin F. <ma...@sc...>]

Wecome!

Mutsu is a repository for Applescript Studio applications and code 
snippets. Developers can submit and update projects via CVS (this means 
directly from Project Builder) and use the Mutsu mailing list to 
coordinate their efforts. All submitted material is subject to the BSD 
license. Users can download Applescript Studio applications via HTTP and 
anonymous CVS. We hope that the Mutsu project will foster the creation 
and distribution of open source Applescript Studio projects.

Please post all messages relating to Mutsu to this mailing list or 
directly to me.

Martin Fenner
ma...@sc...