#837 Overlay does not work for me. (windows 8)

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2011-10-19
Adondriel
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So i just upgraded my computer! yay... then i get mumble and i cant get the overlay to work in minecraft, I have a 64bit comp which i heard can cause problems but then i heard that isnt the problem so im not sure if it will work or not?

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  • Adondriel

    Adondriel - 2011-10-19

    My dxdiag

     
  • fwaggle

    fwaggle - 2011-10-19

    The overlay won't work, under any circumstances, if you have a 64-bit JVM - so that's the most likely culprit, and in that case it's not a bug. You can downgrade to a 32-bit JVM at the expense of some performance/stability in big worlds in Minecraft, but that's about it. :(

    At this stage, unless someone from the Minecraft community who is exceptionally good at ASM and C++ comes forward to write and maintain a 64-bit overlay and loader, there's no immediate (that I'm aware of) plans to have 64-bit support for the overlay. Minecraft is still pretty much the only time gamers use 64-bit for right now, and it's going to take some serious 64-bit support before it becomes worth the trouble.

     
  • Adondriel

    Adondriel - 2011-10-19

    Thanks fwaggle... Good to know... Do you think the actual mumble people will make 64bit compatable? or is that out of the question?

     
  • Adondriel

    Adondriel - 2011-10-19

    I use a bat cmd to start my minecraft. i use
    START java -Xmx12288M -Xms12288M -jar minecraft.exe
    Is there anyway to tell it to use 32bit instead of the default?

     
  • fwaggle

    fwaggle - 2011-10-19

    I think you have to uninstall the 64-bit JVM and reinstall the 32-bit one - as in they're two different software packages.

    I'm sure there will be support eventually, but most of the Minecraft people seem to think there's reason to do it now. It's quite an amount of work for Mumble to support 64-bit overlay/plugins, and we're still years away from 64-bit game binaries being the norm. So barring, as I said, someone from the Minecraft community or otherwise suitably motivated and having the not-insignificant skill to write and maintain a new overlay+loader, don't hold your breath for it. :(

     
  • Adondriel

    Adondriel - 2011-10-19

    If people wont code for 64 bit then why can i not find a single 32bit motherboard online? Gotta love hardware vs software compatabilities

     
  • fwaggle

    fwaggle - 2011-10-19

    There's plenty of 64-bit software out there right now (and you know that 64-bit hardware and 64-bit OSes can run 32-bit software, right?) - the fact is though that almost none of it is games.

    The games that are out there (a Mumble developer is listing a few on IRC right now) are not worth the huge amount of effort required in making the overlay work on 64-bit games. As I said, the only hope of it happening anytime soon is to find a reasonably motivated developer (and it can't be a hack-it-together and forget about it thing, look at JACK audio support for Mumble).

     
  • Adondriel

    Adondriel - 2011-10-19

    Could you give me a link to the irc?

     
  • Adondriel

    Adondriel - 2011-10-19

    Oh yeah i know i can use 32bit software. Although i just uninstalled the 64 bit and installed the 32bit but it said it couldnt find java

     
  • Kissaki

    Kissaki - 2013-12-16
    • status: pending --> invalid
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