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[Multignometerm-usability] Re: MGT 1.6.2 + RH8: how do I customize the commands of the toolbar icons?

[Cristiano De M. <dem...@na...>]

Hi Mike,
thanks for your appreciations ;-),
give a look at the following link:
http://multignometerm.sourceforge.net/web/mgtdocs.shtml
and in particular look here:
http://multignometerm.sourceforge.net/web/doc/edit-commands.html

			enjoy Cristiano
On Thu, 2003-04-24 at 17:46, Mike Norman wrote:
> I really love MGT, so this is just a small nit-pick:
> How can I customize the commands the toolbar icons launch?
> The simplest example is "launch a new bash shell" - what if
> I want to launch some other type of shell?
> 
> Thanks in advance,
> ---
> Mike Norman - mwn...@sy...
> "'We have two ears and one mouth, so we may listen twice as much as we 
> speak' -
> Epictetus.  Aha! This obviously explains many people's attitude to 
> Usenet: "We
> have ten fingers and two eyes, so we may type five times as much drivel 
> as we actually bother to read." - alt.humor.best-of-usenet
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Department of Physics, University of Naples "Federico II"

[Multignometerm-usability] MGT 2.0 features

[Goran K. <gor...@he...>]

Hi.

Is there any feature list for to-be MGT 2.0 ? Home page doesn't list
any or I'm too dumb to find it. In particular, I'm wondering if it will
also support the same Escape Sequence style of commands ? I am having a
lot of trouble with this in 1.6.1 and I thought it might be worth
waiting for 2.0 (especially after reading the comments about 1.6.2 being
last release before 2.0 comes out).

Thanks and best regards,
    Goran

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Re: [Multignometerm-usability] --login

[Mark L. <ma...@fn...>]

Thanks, got it.


Mark Leininger, ma...@fn...
630.840.4776
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Sent: Sunday, April 20, 2003 9:37 AM
Subject: Re: [Multignometerm-usability] --login


> On Fri, 2003-04-11 at 22:13, Mark Leininger wrote:
> > --login does not seem to be an option, although it's mentioned in the
> > man page. How do I achieve the effects of --login? I'm running 1.6.1 on
> > redhat linux.
> in Settings->Windows Preferences
> check 'use --login for hardset commands'
>
> regards Cristiano
>
> --
>   Cristiano De Michele,
>   Department of Physics,
>   University "Federico II" of Naples
>
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[Multignometerm-usability] MGT 1.6.2

[Cristiano De M. <dem...@na...>]

Hi all,
MGT 1.6.2 is out and it's a bug fix release so nothing new. 
I think this is really last release before 2.x,

						enjoy Cristiano

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Re: [Multignometerm-usability] Re: multi-gnome-terminal and RedHat 8

[Hal B. <ha...@bu...>]

On Sun, Apr 20, 2003 at 04:27:19PM +0200, Cristiano De Michele wrote:
> > 
> > I have been using MGT for some months with RedHat 7.3 and I enjoy
> > it. It rellay solved the problem of having all those terminal
> > window opened ate the same time on the desktop!
> > 
> > However I have recently upgraded to RedHat 8.0 and the MGT
> > (multi-gnome-terminal-RH7-1.6.1-1.i386.rpm) works well except for
> > some fonts problems. I am using fixed 10x20 but the problem also
> > happens with other fonts. The best way to describe it is to use
> > the man pages. For instance 
> > 
> > man ls
> > 
> > does not give the - in front of the options. With other manual
> > pages the symbol ' is transformed into some accents. In the end it
> > is difficult to understand the man pages. With the gnome-terminal
> > there are no problems but the same problem appears with xterm.
> > 
> try some other fonts  here for example I'm using 
> -b&h-lucidatypewriter-medium-r-normal-*-18-*-*-*-m-*-iso10646-1
> 					regards Cristiano

Guys,

This is not a font problem per se. RH8 defaults to UTF-8 font handling
which causes some problems for other apps. In this case its either man
or less that does not like UTF-8. Jorge, do a google on this. I think
the solution is in locale settings:

 export LC=en

(or similar). It is a common problem on RH8 (and I guess 9 too). 

-- 
Hal Burgiss
 

Re: [Multignometerm-usability] --login

[Cristiano De M. <dem...@na...>]

On Fri, 2003-04-11 at 22:13, Mark Leininger wrote:
> --login does not seem to be an option, although it's mentioned in the 
> man page. How do I achieve the effects of --login? I'm running 1.6.1 on 
> redhat linux.
in Settings->Windows Preferences
check 'use --login for hardset commands'

				regards Cristiano

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  University "Federico II" of Naples

[Multignometerm-usability] Re: multi-gnome-terminal and RedHat 8

[Cristiano De M. <dem...@na...>]

On Tue, 2003-04-15 at 14:07, Jorge Romao wrote:
> Hi
> 
> I have been using MGT for some months with RedHat 7.3 and I enjoy it. It
> rellay solved the problem of having all those terminal window opened ate
> the same time on the desktop!
> 
> However I have recently upgraded to RedHat 8.0 and the MGT
> (multi-gnome-terminal-RH7-1.6.1-1.i386.rpm) works well except for some
> fonts problems. I am using fixed 10x20 but the problem also happens with
> other fonts. The best way to describe it is to use the man pages. For
> instance 
> 
> man ls
> 
> does not give the - in front of the options. With other manual pages the
> symbol ' is transformed into some accents. In the end it is difficult to
> understand the man pages. With the gnome-terminal there are no problems
> but the same problem appears with xterm.
> 
> Any solutions?
> 
> Thanks for the help and for a great program
> 
> Jorge Romao
> 
> 
try some other fonts  here for example I'm using 
-b&h-lucidatypewriter-medium-r-normal-*-18-*-*-*-m-*-iso10646-1
					regards Cristiano

					 
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[Multignometerm-usability] Re: Error in MGT

[Cristiano De M. <dem...@na...>]

On Sat, 2003-04-19 at 15:19, ednei_gp wrote:
> I'm tring use the MGT-1.6.1 with the bin packge but
> when I try to run on my terminal I got the follow
> answer:
> 
> multi-gnome-terminal: error while loading shared
> libraries: libgdk_imlib.so.1: cannot open shared
> object file: No such file or directory
> 
> I'm using linux slackware 8.1 with kernel 2.4.10 e
> I've the libs:
> 
> gome-libs-1.4.1.7-i386-1
> gdk-pixbuf-0.17.0-i386-1
> 
> Do you know what's missing??
> 
> Thanks 
Hi Ednei,
in my debian I have a package gdk-imlib1
I think something similar is missing in your linux box,
let me know...

		regards Cristiano
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[Multignometerm-usability] --login

[Mark L. <ma...@fn...>]

--login does not seem to be an option, although it's mentioned in the 
man page. How do I achieve the effects of --login? I'm running 1.6.1 on 
redhat linux.

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Re: [Multignometerm-usability] Missing "Multiterminal" file (Or How I Hammer Myself)

[Cristiano De M. <dem...@na...>]

> 	It would be a nice fix if multiterm could act like some of the old
> editors did, when getting ready to write out a modified file.  The two
> step was to 
> 1) open a new (temporary) file and write the modified file out
> 2) once the file was written w/o error, then unlink the old file and
> link the new version to the file name (basically a rename)
writing of config file is handled by gnome libs so I don't know if one can
do what you suggest...

> it back into the code).  If it would be easier to implement the fix than
> get me involved, I completely understand that also. II've done a co of
> multignometerm and mgt2 from Sourceforge, but I'm not sure which is the
> correct tree...)
if you start digging into the code I'm happy to have some new mgt
developer because I really need help...
right module is multignomterm which is 1.6.x series 
mgt2 is new *very* experimental module for mgt 2.x
 
> 	Thanks
> Mike
bye Cristiano

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Department of Physics, University of Naples "Federico II"

[Multignometerm-usability] Missing "Multiterminal" file (Or How I Hammer Myself)

[Mike O. <mo...@ch...>]

Folks,

	I think I now know how I end up with a zero length Multiterm file. 
This was the problem where the display manager would crash, and then all
my customizations were lost...  

	I'm pretty sure that this is occuring when my system runs out of space
in my home directory, I then attempt to customize some aspect of
multi-gnome-terminal, and then multi-gnome-terminal is no longer capable
of writing the multiterm file.

	It would be a nice fix if multiterm could act like some of the old
editors did, when getting ready to write out a modified file.  The two
step was to 
1) open a new (temporary) file and write the modified file out
2) once the file was written w/o error, then unlink the old file and
link the new version to the file name (basically a rename)

	I'd be willing to take a stab at doing this myself, but if this is a
desirable thing, then how does one do this (so that my fixes could make
it back into the code).  If it would be easier to implement the fix than
get me involved, I completely understand that also. II've done a co of
multignometerm and mgt2 from Sourceforge, but I'm not sure which is the
correct tree...)

	Thanks
Mike

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Re: [Multignometerm-usability] My menu is gone :-(

[Goran K. <gor...@he...>]

On 08 Apr 2003 15:34:19 +0200, Alexandre Aractingi wrote:

Hi.

> Hi all,
> I have been using mgt for a while (great soft!!) and I just lost the
> menu toolbar (I must have done something wrong with my mouse). How can I
> get it back?
> Thanks,

Press ctrl+right mouse button. Go into settings, enable menus again.

G.

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[Multignometerm-usability] My menu is gone :-(

[Alexandre A. <aar...@li...>]

Hi all,
I have been using mgt for a while (great soft!!) and I just lost the
menu toolbar (I must have done something wrong with my mouse). How can I
get it back?
Thanks,

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[Multignometerm-usability] Re: [Multignometerm-bugs] startup problems: no access to tty

[Cristiano De M. <dem...@na...>]

I guess it's something specific related to your IRIX OS but I have no
idea what it is... I'm running Linux and I tested
MGT on Linux...
maybe it would be useful if you could find some workaround/fix,
					regards C.


On Thu, 2003-03-27 at 16:32, Manuel Panea-Doblado wrote:
> I have just deleted ".gnome/MultiTerminal", but the same thing
> happens. Please notice that I have not used any older versions of MGT,
> so this ".gnome/MultiTerminal" that I have just deleted must have been
> created the first time I've run MGT 1.6.1 some hours ago.
> 
> Any more ideas? :-)
> Thanks.
> 
> > have you deleted the old mgt config file?
> > it's .gnome/MultiTerminal
> > let me know...
> 
> > On Thu, 2003-03-27 at 16:16, Manuel Panea-Doblado wrote:
> >> Hi. I just installed multi-gnome-terminal-1.6.1 from
> >> source. On startup, I get: 
> >> 
> >> class: Config prefix: /MultiTerminal/Win-Config/
> >> Warning: no access to tty (Inappropriate I/O control operation).
> >> Thus no job control in this shell.
> >> 
> >> and a new subshell is opened *in the same terminal window* where I
> >> typed the "multi-gnome-terminal" command. At the same time, a MGT
> >> window appears, but it's all black and it accepts no input. I can
> >> click on "New Term" and a new window does appear, but again with no
> >> input or output and yet a new subshell is opened in the same terminal
> >> window where I typed the "multi-gnome-terminal" command.
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[Multignometerm-usability] Re: [Multignometerm-bugs] startup problems: no access to tty

[Manuel Panea-D. <mp...@rz...>]

I have just deleted ".gnome/MultiTerminal", but the same thing
happens. Please notice that I have not used any older versions of MGT,
so this ".gnome/MultiTerminal" that I have just deleted must have been
created the first time I've run MGT 1.6.1 some hours ago.

Any more ideas? :-)
Thanks.

> have you deleted the old mgt config file?
> it's .gnome/MultiTerminal
> let me know...

> On Thu, 2003-03-27 at 16:16, Manuel Panea-Doblado wrote:
>> Hi. I just installed multi-gnome-terminal-1.6.1 from
>> source. On startup, I get:=20
>>=20
>> class: Config prefix: /MultiTerminal/Win-Config/
>> Warning: no access to tty (Inappropriate I/O control operation).
>> Thus no job control in this shell.
>>=20
>> and a new subshell is opened *in the same terminal window* where I
>> typed the "multi-gnome-terminal" command. At the same time, a MGT
>> window appears, but it's all black and it accepts no input. I can
>> click on "New Term" and a new window does appear, but again with no
>> input or output and yet a new subshell is opened in the same terminal
>> window where I typed the "multi-gnome-terminal" command.

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[Multignometerm-usability] Re: [Multignometerm-bugs] startup problems: no access to tty

[Cristiano De M. <dem...@na...>]

have you deleted the old mgt config file?
it's .gnome/MultiTerminal
let me know...

On Thu, 2003-03-27 at 16:16, Manuel Panea-Doblado wrote:
> Hi. I just installed multi-gnome-terminal-1.6.1 from
> source. On startup, I get: 
> 
>   class: Config prefix: /MultiTerminal/Win-Config/
>   Warning: no access to tty (Inappropriate I/O control operation).
>   Thus no job control in this shell.
> 
> and a new subshell is opened *in the same terminal window* where I
> typed the "multi-gnome-terminal" command. At the same time, a MGT
> window appears, but it's all black and it accepts no input. I can
> click on "New Term" and a new window does appear, but again with no
> input or output and yet a new subshell is opened in the same terminal
> window where I typed the "multi-gnome-terminal" command.
> 
> I tried to run "multi-gnome-terminal", but the same thing happens. I
> also tried MGT 1.4.1 with the same results.
> 
> This is on a Silicon Graphics Octane with IRIX 6.5.5.
> 
> Any ideas?
> 
> Thank,
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[Multignometerm-usability] Issues with Escape Sequence

[Goran K. <gor...@he...>]

Hi all.

I am trying to follow the examples mentioned in the help for Multi Gnome
Terminal (to set some handy keybindings). The example I am talking about
is listed here :

 echo -e "\033]NT;<tab_name>\011<path>\011<command>\007"

So here's my entry for this :

Action:     Escape Sequence
String:     echo -e "\033]NT;tt\011.\011echo $(hostname)\007"
Keybinding: C-y S-R 

However, when I press the given key combo, the desired thing doesn't
happen. It just seems to display a corrupted string in my terminal. WHen
I type the same echo statement in shell, a new tab opens and the given
command is executed just fine. I am using zsh shell, but the same is
happening with bash as well. Here's what I have caught with script :

Script started on Wed Mar 12 10:02:59 2003
I don't want to achieve immortality through my work.  I want to achieve^M
immortality through not dying.^M
                -- Woody Allen^M
^M^[[0m^[[27m^[[24m^[[Jgorank@isis:~$ ^[[Ke^Hecho -e "NT;tt.echo $(`hostname)^M^M
^M^[[0m^[[27m^[[24m^[[Jgorank@isis:~$ ^[[K"^M^M
^M^[[0m^[[27m^[[24m^[[Jgorank@isis:~$ ^[[K^M^M

Script done on Wed Mar 12 10:03:07 2003

Please ignore the first two lines, that's fortune being started in my
.zshrc. The version of terminal is 1.6.1-1 (from Debian unstable).

Any hints are highly welcome.

Goran

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Re: [Multignometerm-usability] Multi-gnome Configuration (Can I save and restore a setup that works)

[Hal B. <ha...@bu...>]

On Sat, Mar 08, 2003 at 04:38:15AM -0800, Mike Olsen wrote:
> 
> BTW, I'm not familiar with the HTH acronym (?Hard to Handle?).. 

Hope
This
Helps ;-)

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Re: [Multignometerm-usability] Multi-gnome Configuration (Can I save and restore a setup that works)

[Mike O. <mo...@ch...>]

On Fri, 2003-03-07 at 18:19, Hal Burgiss wrote:
> I have never completely lost my MultiTerminal file. Never. I do, as
> you notice, lose settings if I have multiple MGTs open, and then make
> changes to only one of those.

	I'm not sure that it starts with an empty file, (since my first
indication is that I've lost all my configuration).  If mgt writes out a
default file if the .gnome/.Multiterminal file is gone when it starts up
then it will be hard for me to find out.  If it only writes it out ONLY
when you change a setting,  then the next time I log in to find my
customizations lost, I'll find out whether some terminal is writing out
a 'virgin' copy, or if the file is missing altogether.  

Now that I know where the customization lives, I'll check it out the
next time it happens, and report back.  That was the critical missing
info for me. This also makes nice since I can not only live with this
problem easily, but I can also transport my 'best setup' from my home to
work machines easily, and have a common set of tab classes available,
etc.  Very nice.

BTW, I'm not familiar with the HTH acronym (?Hard to Handle?)..  

Re: [Multignometerm-usability] Multi-gnome Configuration (Can I save and restore a setup that works)

[Hal B. <ha...@bu...>]

On Fri, Mar 07, 2003 at 06:38:49AM -0800, Mike Olsen wrote:

>  I've noticed that when I've got multiple mgt windows running, if I
> customize one, then the other windows won't know about it.  For instance

This much is true. Maybe we should make a feature request out of it
(Cristiano is not doing any work on mgt at the momemt due to school
pressures).

> around.  At any rate, If others don't get this same behaviour correlated
> with system/window manager crashes, then it may be something I'm doing.

I have never completely lost my MultiTerminal file. Never. I do, as
you notice, lose settings if I have multiple MGTs open, and then make
changes to only one of those. Then those older MGTs will not reflect
those newer changes. If I do something drastic, like restart X with many
MGTs open, I will not have all the recent changes saved. At least I
think that is what happens. But it does revert the config to the first
MGT open. Does this make sense? Anyway, I've never completely lost
that file. HTH!!!


-- 
Hal Burgiss
 

Re: [Multignometerm-usability] Multi-gnome Configuration (Can I save and restore a setup that works)

[Mike O. <mo...@ch...>]

Hal,

I'm not entirely sure what causes this, but there is a correlation with
system and window manager hangs.  I have also gotten this when as far as
I know, the system has been not twanged at all. It may be related to the
way I use MGT, and the system crashes are simply yet another way I twang
myself.

 I've noticed that when I've got multiple mgt windows running, if I
customize one, then the other windows won't know about it.  For instance
if I add a command, the only terminal which knows about it is the
terminal I added it in, and others spawned from that terminal.   I also
note that I can sometimes crash other the earlier mgt sessions by
attempting to customize in them. (but not always... I just verified that
older mgt sessions don't know about the customization of in a window,
but one's created later (with a --use-factory setting) know about the
customization. 

Now, this morning, I can't get a crash of an mgt session by fooling
around.  At any rate, If others don't get this same behaviour correlated
with system/window manager crashes, then it may be something I'm doing.
I guess I wonder if I have two mgt windows, each with different
customizations, which session has the "state" which corresponds with the
.gnome/MultiTerminal file?  Answer from fooling around: the last one
messed with. 

In other words, there are multiple terminal states, but only one
.gnome/MultiTerminal file.  I'm wondering if I'm somehow doing this to
myself, but I'm reasonably sure I go from a condition where from the
boot of the system, I've got a nice set of commands, tab classes, etc.
so that NONE of the mgt's should be in a state resembing a virgin state,
and then something happens, and when I log in again, I have lost all the
customization...

BTW, in the interests of full disclosure, I currently am running KDE as
my window manager(the gnome metacity manager crashed way too often,
moving me from a gnomish persuasion to KDE.)  

I am hoping this is clear.  If I'm the only person finding this, then it
would point to something I'm doing.  If I could figure out what that is
that would be great.  

Mike

On Thu, 2003-03-06 at 06:39, Hal Burgiss wrote:
> On Thu, Mar 06, 2003 at 12:54:14AM -0800, Michael E. Olsen wrote:
> 
> > From what I gather, when I've got a setup I really like in mgt, I
> > could make a copy (say by RCS) of the file .gnome/MultiTerminal and
> > then when I am faced with the absence of my beautiful setup after
> > yet another crash, I can simply replace the newly virgin
> > .gnome/MultiTerminal with my favorite easy setup.  
> > 
> > Will this work?  Will this save all my customizations:colors,
> > fonts, commands, backspace behaviour, etc.?  Is there a better way?
> > Has someone found a window manager that won't crash so this will be
> > a moot point?  
> 
> So your system crashes, and you loose your gnome/MultiTerminal file?
> Very strange. I've *never* had this happen. I doubt the window manager
> per se is doing this. Probably gnome itself. I would definitely
> consider doing some kind of back up. Maybe via cron every so many
> minutes. Or finding some way of isolating/fixing the crash. 
> 
> For the record I am using just Windowmaker -- without Gnome-session
> running (so no gnome desktop). I just went 100+ days in same X
> session, and lost it only due to a power outage and UPS not holding
> up. I would guess I had several mgt's running 100+ days at that point
> too :( 
> 
> -- 
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Re: [Multignometerm-usability] Multi-gnome Configuration (Can I save and restore a setup that works)

[Hal B. <ha...@bu...>]

On Thu, Mar 06, 2003 at 12:54:14AM -0800, Michael E. Olsen wrote:

> From what I gather, when I've got a setup I really like in mgt, I
> could make a copy (say by RCS) of the file .gnome/MultiTerminal and
> then when I am faced with the absence of my beautiful setup after
> yet another crash, I can simply replace the newly virgin
> .gnome/MultiTerminal with my favorite easy setup.  
> 
> Will this work?  Will this save all my customizations:colors,
> fonts, commands, backspace behaviour, etc.?  Is there a better way?
> Has someone found a window manager that won't crash so this will be
> a moot point?  

So your system crashes, and you loose your gnome/MultiTerminal file?
Very strange. I've *never* had this happen. I doubt the window manager
per se is doing this. Probably gnome itself. I would definitely
consider doing some kind of back up. Maybe via cron every so many
minutes. Or finding some way of isolating/fixing the crash. 

For the record I am using just Windowmaker -- without Gnome-session
running (so no gnome desktop). I just went 100+ days in same X
session, and lost it only due to a power outage and UPS not holding
up. I would guess I had several mgt's running 100+ days at that point
too :( 

-- 
Hal Burgiss
 

[Multignometerm-usability] Multi-gnome Configuration (Can I save and restore a setup that works)

[Michael E. O. <mo...@ch...>]

Folks,

	First, a big thank you to Cristiano, and all who have helped out.  I am
now currently addicted to mgt, but of course I am writing with a
problem.My problem has more to do with buggy window managers, and being
able to deal with them...

My current mode of work is as follows.  I will customize up my settings,
set up commands (love that option!), and be just happy as I can be, when
something goofs up my session.  When I log back in, I have the virgin
setup of MGT, which I then dutifully customize again, but I don't
remember all my customizations, and I have some really nice things that
end up going out into the ether.  After about the sixth time through
this, I'm now writing to this newsgroup.  

From what I gather, when I've got a setup I really like in mgt, I could
make a copy (say by RCS) of the file .gnome/MultiTerminal and then when
I am faced with the absence of my beautiful setup after yet another
crash, I can simply replace the newly virgin .gnome/MultiTerminal with
my favorite easy setup.  

Will this work?  Will this save all my customizations:colors, fonts,
commands, backspace behaviour, etc.?  Is there a better way?  Has
someone found a window manager that won't crash so this will be a moot
point?  

Thanks for the help!

[Multignometerm-usability] investigation on Abysmal scroll performance with bold / colored chars

[Miernik <mi...@ct...>]

About the slowness of MGT I, and many others expirience:

There is a very good bug report about it in the Debian BTS at
http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=3D166088=20

Caution! This page will take ages to load on slow connections, because
it contains a mbox message with a large attachement in base64! I've
loaded until 148920 bytes and gave up. BTW it is ridiculous that the
Debian BTS displays messages like this, it should strip the attachements
and just present liks to them. As a matter of fact it does present a
link to the attachement.=20

I paste the message here:

Package: multi-gnome-terminal
Version: 1.6.1-1
Severity: important

To reproduce, do "while true ; do ls --color / ; done" in a=20
multi-gnome-terminal window.

Expected results: The colored ls output should scroll by.
Current results: It takes maybe ten seconds to fill the screen with the=20
result from ls.  Scrolling the screen one line takes a few seconds as=20
well.

Here is the profiling data from running OProfile
("http://oprofile.sourceforge.net") while the shell script "while true ;
do ls ; done" was running.=20

To download mgt-profile.tar.gz click here:
http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi/mgt-profile.tar.gz?bug=3D16608=
8&msg=3D6&att=3D0

mgt-whole-system-profile.log lists what binaries, libs and kernel
modules have taken up most of the time during the profiling run (note
the excessive amount of calls to strcpy() in libc).=20

mgt-exe-profile.log lists what symbols inside multi-gnome-terminal have
taken up most of the time during the profiling run.=20

mgt-annotated-src-profile.c lists how much time has been spent on each
line of the source code.

-- System Information
Debian Release: testing/unstable
Architecture: i386
Kernel: Linux foo 2.4.17 #1 s=F6n feb 10 09:40:14 CET 2002 i686
Locale: LANG=3Dsv_SE.ISO8859-1, LC_CTYPE=3Dsv_SE.ISO8859-1
Versions of packages multi-gnome-terminal depends on:
ii  debconf                     1.2.10       Debian configuration managemen=
t sy
ii  gdk-imlib1                  1.9.14-11    imaging library for use with g=
tk (
ii  libart2                     1.4.2-8      The GNOME canvas widget - runt=
ime=20
ii  libaudiofile0               0.2.3-4      The Audiofile Library
ii  libc6                       2.2.5-14.3   GNU C Library: Shared librarie=
s an
ii  libdb3                      3.2.9-17     Berkeley v3 Database Libraries=
 [ru
ii  libesd0                     0.2.23-3     Enlightened Sound Daemon - Sha=
red=20
ii  libglade-gnome0             1:0.17-2.7   Library to load .glade files a=
t ru
ii  libglade0                   1:0.17-2.7   Library to load .glade files a=
t ru
ii  libglib1.2                  1.2.10-6     The GLib library of C routines
ii  libgnome32                  1.4.2-8      The GNOME libraries
ii  libgnomesupport0            1.4.2-8      The GNOME libraries (Support l=
ibra
ii  libgnomeui32                1.4.2-8      The GNOME libraries (User Inte=
rfac
ii  libgnorba27                 1.4.2-8      GNOME CORBA services
ii  libgtk1.2                   1.2.10-14    The GIMP Toolkit set of widget=
s fo
ii  liborbit0                   0.5.16-1     Libraries for ORBit - a CORBA =
ORB
ii  libwrap0                    7.6-ipv6.1-3 Wietse Venema's TCP wrappers l=
ibra
ii  libxml1                     1:1.8.17-2   GNOME XML library
ii  xlibs                       4.1.0-17     X Window System client librari=
es
ii  zlib1g                      1:1.1.4-4    compression library - runtime

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Re: [Multignometerm-usability] is MGT developement stopped, does this list work?

[Hal B. <hbu...@be...>]

On Sat, Jan 11, 2003 at 01:18:35AM +0100, Cristiano De Michele wrote:
> 
> that's right actually I'm really busy and tired because I have to work a
> lot on my PhD and travel a lot too as Hal said (btw hi Hal!), anyway I
> hope I'll have again time for MGT soon and someone will help me for
> gnome2 release of MGT,
> 
> bye all

Hi Cristiano! Good luck with your studies. I didn't expect you to pop
in :)

-- 
Hal Burgiss