Thread: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] How many MSEIDE_MSEGUI USERS ARE

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Any hint how many MSEIDE-MSEGUI users are currently active ?

Just an estimation,

thanks!

ME +1

Med

I think around 5 people?

On Wed, Aug 21, 2024 at 4:47 PM mohamed hamza <me...@ho...> wrote:

> Any hint how many MSEIDE-MSEGUI users are currently active ?
>
> Just an estimation,
>
> thanks!
>
> ME +1
>
> Med
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Hello Fred,

you wrote on Fri, 23 Aug 2024 21:10:29 +0000:

> OK, I remember now and your fixes have been committed to the sieghard
> branch. I will try with your fixes but it seems to me that it was not a
> good idea (on my part) to add application.processmessages at the end of
> Tform.oncreate in TfiledialogX.

It doesn't seem to hurt, but it might not be neccessary either. I'm not
even clear whether it seemed to influence the appearance of the "not
decorated" message at all, but the removal of the "xflush" calls seems to
have completely terminated these (annoying) messages. Thus my suspicion
that they aren't not only not needed but only erroneously left in from some
experiments during development of the basic X functions.

> Anyway, thank you very much for your attention.

Nothing to thank here, I've to thank you for your support and work.

> And have a nice next two weeks and all the others too.

Same to you, and keep up the good work!

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I think around 5 people?

On Wed, Aug 21, 2024 at 4:47 PM mohamed hamza <me...@ho...<mailto:me...@ho...>> wrote:
Any hint how many MSEIDE-MSEGUI users are currently active ?

Just an estimation,

thanks!

ME +1

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Well, Russia was always an exception. They preferred Pascal over C as it
was more clear and easy to understand. In international contests, Russia
had secured the first place, until Pascal was not a requirement anymore...

In Romania Pascal had a medium spread in education environment but it faded
away with time. Microsoft got a strong foot hold in our country.

I guess Pascal is also well represented in the Latin World... Mainly
because of Lazarus.

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> On Wed, Aug 21, 2024 at 4:47 PM mohamed hamza <me...@ho...> wrote:
>
> Any hint how many MSEIDE-MSEGUI users are currently active ?
>
> Just an estimation,
>
> thanks!
>
> ME +1
>
> Med
> _______________________________________________
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Yes, but we have to give Caesar what belongs to him: the Russians were the first to understand the great value of MSE. They are also the ones who produced the most doc, video and lessons to learn MSEgui.
And then I prefer to see the beautiful side of people, daring to make such a brilliant cover of EWF deserves a lot of respect.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YHRt_EtbzdY

😉

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Well, Russia was always an exception. They preferred Pascal over C as it was more clear and easy to understand. In international contests, Russia had secured the first place, until Pascal was not a requirement anymore...

In Romania Pascal had a medium spread in education environment but it faded away with time. Microsoft got a strong foot hold in our country.

I guess Pascal is also well represented in the Latin World... Mainly because of Lazarus.

On Wed, Aug 21, 2024 at 9:28 PM Fred vS <fi...@ho...<mailto:fi...@ho...>> wrote:
https://github.com/user-attachments/assets/70c4f495-70dd-4b0c-b562-7f6e5c774c64

https://github.com/user-attachments/assets/3d2119d2-131d-4cfc-91b5-e7096606ead8
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I think around 5 people?

On Wed, Aug 21, 2024 at 4:47 PM mohamed hamza <me...@ho...<mailto:me...@ho...>> wrote:
Any hint how many MSEIDE-MSEGUI users are currently active ?

Just an estimation,

thanks!

ME +1

Med
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Hello vasi,

you wrote on Thu, 22 Aug 2024 11:22:57 +0300:

> Well, Russia was always an exception. They preferred Pascal over C as it
...
I use(d) to argue that Usa has so amny more inhabitants, and thus
programmers, than Switzerland so the usanian way to program (heuristically,
hand waving, irrespective) was unavoidably prone to overwhelm the Pascal
way (understanding-oriented, responsible, safety-regarding).
That's my usual response when I hear someone argue another time that they
want their software written in C, "because everybody can program in C, and
thus C software is much easier to maintain." At least, that's what they say
in advance...

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Hello Sieghard.

Excuse me for interrupting this very interesting topic, but I just had, as you noted in a previous post, an "Not decorated" error in a test.

It sometimes appears after "application.ProcessMessages; in something.oncreate.

If I remember correctly, it was when you were busy with your newfiledialogx project.
And I just saw that in your latest version nv1, at the end of filedialogxfo.onformcreated, there is " application.ProcessMessages;".
IMHO, it should not be there (my fault).

But maybe this note has absolutely nothing to do with your problem, so forget about it.

Have a nice end of summer.

Fre;D

Hello Fred,

you wrote on Thu, 22 Aug 2024 20:53:09 +0000:

> as you noted in a previous post, an "Not decorated" error in a test.

Sorry that I can just confirm that I read your posting. I was occupied with
quite different things lately, which is why there's no progress on the
"newdialogs" topic for some time (announcedly). I'll have to get involved
with the stuff again to find out what might have caused your issue. But
still, I seem to recall that I DID find the place that triggers the message
you mention, and in addition found that this was caused by a code error. The
issue could be resolved by a simple patch, but I cannot remember whether I
gave a message here or provided a patch for it. I think it was in a "kernel"
unit. I'll look for it and give a notice.

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Hello Fred,

you wrote on Thu, 22 Aug 2024 20:53:09 +0000:

> It sometimes appears after "application.ProcessMessages; in
> something.oncreate.

In succession to my previous message, I found two old postings of mine
concerning this problem. They are, respectively, from Wed, 1 May 2024
23:11:26 +0200 and Sat, 4 May 2024 02:29:07 +0200, both on the subject
"Re: New release 5.10.0."
There I reported that the message is issued by function called
"waitfordecoration", which is obviously meant th have the window manager
just draw the window decoration. For this end, it calls several X system
functions, and one of them, "xflush", doesn't seem to always correctly
function. It even seems superfluous, as, at least on my machine, commenting
out both calls to it doesn't seem to affect anything adversely - maybe
because the window manager does its work in parallel in a seaprate thread.
Thus, I modified the unit for my work, and it didn't show any problems any
more, so I even forgot about it and that I had modified it...
But I DID put the patched unit on my web site for download and posted a
message (the one from Sat, 4 May 2024 02:29:07 +0200) announcing it. The
file has the special name of "mseguiintf_patched.zip" and only contains
this very file, "mseguiintf.pas", from the kernel/linux subdirectory of
msegui. In addition, as I wote in the accompanying message, "it also
suppresses the Xorg gui error caused by a false call for setting the X
input focus in such cases. But that's just a minor problem, usually without
consequences, except for those possible sporadic "not decorated" messages.
It might just not hurt..."

I hope that's what irritated you and the patch does resolve the issue
for you also. It should only (have) appear(ed) on Linux anyway, and it
certainly was NOT restricted to the "newfiledialog" unit(s).

So for now, thank you again for your support, and keep up the good work!

> Have a nice end of summer.

Not so fast - the summer shall last for another more than tree weeks yet!

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Hi Sieghard,

OK, I remember now and your fixes have been committed to the sieghard branch.
I will try with your fixes but it seems to me that it was not a good idea (on my part) to add application.processmessages at the end of Tform.oncreate in TfiledialogX.

Anyway, thank you very much for your attention.

And have a nice next two weeks and all the others too.

Fre;D