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From: Andy <andy@th...> - 2007-03-31 17:40:37
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Just to elaborate on something that Joerg mentions: Joerg WEBER wrote: > Hallo Hannes, > > I am only using those kind of cameras with 4-port capture cards like spectra8 > or PV-149. There are quite some different cards at different levels of cost. > You must take care that they have 4 real BTTV chips (like BT848) in order to > get good results. These cards are working fine under Linux. The key here is that each input must have its own BTTV chip. The reason for this is that when they only have one BTTV chip on the card, it presents itself as one device under linux (/dev/video0) and you select which input by selecting the input via motion options. This means you may only view/access one 'channel' at a time. Motion does have provision for swapping between these channels, however it doesn't achieve perfect results (I've never got it to reliably do motion detection in this mode). So realistically I'd totally discount these one-chip cards. If you want more than one camera/input you either buy separate boards, or use cards with multiple chips. Therefore an acurate description, and/or picture of the card before you purchase is a must! Lots of eBay cards are only single-chip. Hope that helps expand on the info you've got :-) -- Andy e: andy @ thebmwz3.co.uk e: andy @ broadcast-tech.co.uk w: http://www.thebmwz3.co.uk w: http://www.broadcast-tech.co.uk |
From: Andrew Hamilton <hamiltona@mc...> - 2007-03-31 16:44:22
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Hannes Gruber wrote: > Ave, > > thank you for all your experience, I think I will give it a try. In one > month I will be able to answer all that questions too ;-). > > >> Here is a link to what my KT&C KPC-N600H IR camera captured recently in >> my driveway. I am pretty happy with the quality during the day and >> night, except color during the day is rather dull looking. The length >> of cable from the camera to my Linux box is 100 feet. >> > > The link was missing :-(. > > Hannes > > D'oh! Here ya go: http://www.lavrsen.dk/twiki/bin/view/Motion/BurglarCaughtWithMotion -Andrew |
From: Hannes Gruber <hg@gu...> - 2007-03-31 08:47:35
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Ave, thank you for all your experience, I think I will give it a try. In one month I will be able to answer all that questions too ;-). > Here is a link to what my KT&C KPC-N600H IR camera captured recently in > my driveway. I am pretty happy with the quality during the day and > night, except color during the day is rather dull looking. The length > of cable from the camera to my Linux box is 100 feet. The link was missing :-(. Hannes -- --<>------------------------------------------- Zufallszitat: There are always at least two ways to program the same thing. !!! http://www.usw.at !!! nimm die Herausforderung an |
From: Joerg WEBER <motion@al...> - 2007-03-30 23:16:57
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Hallo Hannes, I am only using those kind of cameras with 4-port capture cards like spectr= a8=20 or PV-149. There are quite some different cards at different levels of cost= =2E=20 You must take care that they have 4 real BTTV chips (like BT848) in order t= o=20 get good results. These cards are working fine under Linux. One of my cams is about 60 meters far from my puter and the cable is instal= led=20 close to 220V over at least half of that distance. The quality is still=20 acceptable. Another one is attached to a telephone cable, because I had no= =20 other choice in that place. It has a converter at each end=20 (Impedanzwandler... http://www.ELV.de). The result is quite amazing! Brgds Joerg. Am Freitag, 30. M=E4rz 2007 10:00 schrieb Hannes Gruber: > Ave, > > although I did not believe the Post by eBayShop Panvigor (and maybe I > was wrong as I read from the reply of Josh), I looked at its site and > saw a lot of cameras having only BNC connectors. > > Up to now I was using networkkapable cameras and connected them via LAN. > > Those cameras are very expensive compared to the BNC ones, and I think > they are a lot less complicated to install. I would not have to > configure my DHCP, no passwords etc. > > I am considering to give those cameras a try and ask for experience. No > doubt, I would also need a card to connect those cameras to the Motion > Server. > Anyone has experience with those cards, and installation on linux? The > ones I found in this shop did not mention any linux drivers. > > Second Using BNC Cables to wire my cameras, is there any limit in > ditance distance from cam to server? > > Do I need special tubes in the wall or can I put them besides the > electric wires. > > Thanks for your input, > > Hannes > =2D-=20 |
From: <hamiltona@mc...> - 2007-03-30 22:37:42
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-------------- Original message from Josh Tolbert <hemi@...>: -------------- > On Fri, Mar 30, 2007 at 10:00:55AM +0200, Hannes Gruber wrote: > > Ave, > > > > although I did not believe the Post by eBayShop Panvigor (and maybe I > > was wrong as I read from the reply of Josh), I looked at its site and > > saw a lot of cameras having only BNC connectors. > > > > Up to now I was using networkkapable cameras and connected them via LAN. > > > > Those cameras are very expensive compared to the BNC ones, and I think > > they are a lot less complicated to install. I would not have to > > configure my DHCP, no passwords etc. > > > > I am considering to give those cameras a try and ask for experience. No > > doubt, I would also need a card to connect those cameras to the Motion > > Server. > > Anyone has experience with those cards, and installation on linux? The > > ones I found in this shop did not mention any linux drivers. > > > > Second Using BNC Cables to wire my cameras, is there any limit in > > ditance distance from cam to server? > > > > Do I need special tubes in the wall or can I put them besides the > > electric wires. > > > > Thanks for your input, > > > > Hannes > > > > @ Josh and all the other, I am sorry, I did not mean to insult Josh. > > True, I was reading between the lines, which is quite risky, but I was > > tempted to respond to what I read there, because for me it looked like > > being print in bold. > > Hi Hannes, > > I don't have any experience with these cams on Linux (mostly cause I generally > try to avoid Linux whenever possible), but they work quite well under FreeBSD. > > The "dumb" analog cameras don't care what OS they're talking to. All they do > is output an (interlaced) analog signal. You need a card to capture the video > signal, though. > > I purchased some Brooktree 848/878-based cards, three to be exact, from either > eBay or people I knew for $15 or less each with shipping included. FreeBSD > supports the Brooktree/Conexant 848/878 through the bktr driver. Each card is > enumerated as a bktr device once you load the bktr module or rebuild your > kernel with bktr support. I have /dev/bktr0, /dev/bktr1 and /dev/bktr2 on my > machine since I have three cards installed. I have three threads set up, one > for each card/camera combination, and the only line in each file is the > videodevice line to point to the specific card. > > Cable length...I wondered about that myself, but I figured I'd just try it and > see. I bought 3x 50' cables, also from panvigor, along with a four-device > power supply (12v, 4A). The cameras' outputs are BNC female. The cables are BNC > male on both ends, along with the power for each camera in another paired > cable. My capture cards have RCA inputs, so I just bought some BNC female to > RCA male adapters (from another eBay retailer whose name escapes me at the > moment) and use those to connect the cables to the bktr cards. > > The IR mode on my cameras is nice for seeing shapes, but details are lacking. > If you want to see the kind of videos and output I'm getting, feel free to > take a look at http://hemi.puresimplicity.net:8081/. It's a slow connection, > but you should be able to see what the output looks like. The day-time videos > are much better than the night-time videos, and I end up recording interesting > things like this: > http://hemi.puresimplicity.net:8081/2007/03/30/camera-2/09-15-30.avi. > > The machine I'm running Motion on is an XP1800+ with 512M RAM in a Foxconn > KT600 motherboard. The OS is FreeBSD 6.2-RELEASE. I just have Motion > configured to dump its files to the Apache DocumentRoot in order to make the > images accessible to others here that only have Windows boxes and don't want > to mess with Samba or the like. Along those lines, I have msmpeg4 set for the > output format. > > The only reason I got bent out of shape was cause I wouldn't bother to post if > I wasn't serious about it. > > Good luck, > > Josh Here is a link to what my KT&C KPC-N600H IR camera captured recently in my driveway. I am pretty happy with the quality during the day and night, except color during the day is rather dull looking. The length of cable from the camera to my Linux box is 100 feet. Sincerely, Andrew Hamilton |
From: Josh Tolbert <hemi@pu...> - 2007-03-30 21:07:15
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On Fri, Mar 30, 2007 at 10:00:55AM +0200, Hannes Gruber wrote: > Ave, > > although I did not believe the Post by eBayShop Panvigor (and maybe I > was wrong as I read from the reply of Josh), I looked at its site and > saw a lot of cameras having only BNC connectors. > > Up to now I was using networkkapable cameras and connected them via LAN. > > Those cameras are very expensive compared to the BNC ones, and I think > they are a lot less complicated to install. I would not have to > configure my DHCP, no passwords etc. > > I am considering to give those cameras a try and ask for experience. No > doubt, I would also need a card to connect those cameras to the Motion > Server. > Anyone has experience with those cards, and installation on linux? The > ones I found in this shop did not mention any linux drivers. > > Second Using BNC Cables to wire my cameras, is there any limit in > ditance distance from cam to server? > > Do I need special tubes in the wall or can I put them besides the > electric wires. > > Thanks for your input, > > Hannes > > @ Josh and all the other, I am sorry, I did not mean to insult Josh. > True, I was reading between the lines, which is quite risky, but I was > tempted to respond to what I read there, because for me it looked like > being print in bold. Hi Hannes, I don't have any experience with these cams on Linux (mostly cause I generally try to avoid Linux whenever possible), but they work quite well under FreeBSD. The "dumb" analog cameras don't care what OS they're talking to. All they do is output an (interlaced) analog signal. You need a card to capture the video signal, though. I purchased some Brooktree 848/878-based cards, three to be exact, from either eBay or people I knew for $15 or less each with shipping included. FreeBSD supports the Brooktree/Conexant 848/878 through the bktr driver. Each card is enumerated as a bktr device once you load the bktr module or rebuild your kernel with bktr support. I have /dev/bktr0, /dev/bktr1 and /dev/bktr2 on my machine since I have three cards installed. I have three threads set up, one for each card/camera combination, and the only line in each file is the videodevice line to point to the specific card. Cable length...I wondered about that myself, but I figured I'd just try it and see. I bought 3x 50' cables, also from panvigor, along with a four-device power supply (12v, 4A). The cameras' outputs are BNC female. The cables are BNC male on both ends, along with the power for each camera in another paired cable. My capture cards have RCA inputs, so I just bought some BNC female to RCA male adapters (from another eBay retailer whose name escapes me at the moment) and use those to connect the cables to the bktr cards. The IR mode on my cameras is nice for seeing shapes, but details are lacking. If you want to see the kind of videos and output I'm getting, feel free to take a look at http://hemi.puresimplicity.net:8081/. It's a slow connection, but you should be able to see what the output looks like. The day-time videos are much better than the night-time videos, and I end up recording interesting things like this: http://hemi.puresimplicity.net:8081/2007/03/30/camera-2/09-15-30.avi. The machine I'm running Motion on is an XP1800+ with 512M RAM in a Foxconn KT600 motherboard. The OS is FreeBSD 6.2-RELEASE. I just have Motion configured to dump its files to the Apache DocumentRoot in order to make the images accessible to others here that only have Windows boxes and don't want to mess with Samba or the like. Along those lines, I have msmpeg4 set for the output format. The only reason I got bent out of shape was cause I wouldn't bother to post if I wasn't serious about it. Good luck, Josh -- Josh Tolbert hemi@... || http://www.puresimplicity.net/~hemi/ Security is mostly a superstition. It does not exist in nature, nor do the children of men as a whole experience it. Avoiding danger is no safer in the long run than outright exposure. Life is either a daring adventure, or nothing. -- Helen Keller |
From: Andrew Hamilton <hamiltona@mc...> - 2007-03-30 13:03:35
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Bruce wrote: > Hi, > I recently bought an ir camera that has 420 lines of resolution and an 48 ir led s for night vision in black and white. Day time is color. > Motion has a hard time detecting pixel changes while at night time. Meaning I can walk in the path of the camera and the only pixel change detected is my feet, not my entire body. Anyone see this on their end? I adjusted the threshold down to 50 pixels but it doesn't help. Anyone have an idea? > > Thanks. > > As Kenneth mentioned earlier, setup mode will probably help you out a lot here. Something that I have found useful in the past as well is to enable 'ffmpeg_cap_motion' so that you can see a movie of the pixels that Motion sees changing. This may give a hint to the issue. Good luck. -Andrew Hamilton |
From: <bruce1271@gm...> - 2007-03-30 12:48:21
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From: Hannes Gruber <hg@gu...> - 2007-03-30 08:00:54
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Ave, although I did not believe the Post by eBayShop Panvigor (and maybe I was wrong as I read from the reply of Josh), I looked at its site and saw a lot of cameras having only BNC connectors. Up to now I was using networkkapable cameras and connected them via LAN. Those cameras are very expensive compared to the BNC ones, and I think they are a lot less complicated to install. I would not have to configure my DHCP, no passwords etc. I am considering to give those cameras a try and ask for experience. No doubt, I would also need a card to connect those cameras to the Motion Server. Anyone has experience with those cards, and installation on linux? The ones I found in this shop did not mention any linux drivers. Second Using BNC Cables to wire my cameras, is there any limit in ditance distance from cam to server? Do I need special tubes in the wall or can I put them besides the electric wires. Thanks for your input, Hannes @ Josh and all the other, I am sorry, I did not mean to insult Josh. True, I was reading between the lines, which is quite risky, but I was tempted to respond to what I read there, because for me it looked like being print in bold. -- --<>------------------------------------------- Zufallszitat: I like pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals. - Winston Churchill !!! http://www.usw.at !!! nimm die Herausforderung an |
From: Josh Tolbert <hemi@pu...> - 2007-03-30 07:40:30
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On Fri, Mar 30, 2007 at 09:29:39AM +0200, Hannes Gruber wrote: > Ave, > > >> I recently bought an ir camera that has 420 lines of resolution and an 48 ir led s for night vision in black and white. Day time is color. > >> Motion has a hard time detecting pixel changes while at night time. > I don't beleve this problem, it is quite strange that the first response > to this post was a recommendation, that you can find a better solution > with any product from some store. > > > I have an IR camera (with thirty-six in-built IR LEDs) obtained from an eBay > > retailer named panvigor. > A serious poster would have mentioned the camera model he uses > successfully and not just where it was bought. If he would even mention it. > > Sorry if I am wrong, but this was too obvious for me. > > Hannes Yes, you are wrong. :) Note that I didn't suggest any product. I stated what worked for me and that what I was seeing wasn't what the original poster was dealing with. Maybe I didn't mention the model cause the brand name of the camera is the same as the eBay seller's. Maybe you could do some digging before claiming someone isn't "a serious poster." Considering I've got three of these things and have them all in use (as of tonight), I do know a bit about them (and how they work with Motion). If you'd like, I could link you to the exact cameras I'm using...But, frankly, if you can't find them on your own you must not be serious. :) "Panvigor" sells a few cameras with thirty-six IR LEDs. They're all the same camera, just different-power LEDs. You'd have realized a model name/number was fairly irrelevant had you bothered to look instead of claiming I'm not "a serious poster." I wasn't saying he should go out and buy some of these cameras, I simply stated that what I had was working for me and not exhibiting the behavior the original poster said he was seeing. Maybe if you were serious about offering some useful input you'd stop reading between the lines and seeing a sales pitch when there isn't one. I have nothing to do with "panvigor" besides buying a few cameras from them. "Seriously" yours, Josh -- Josh Tolbert hemi@... || http://www.puresimplicity.net/~hemi/ Security is mostly a superstition. It does not exist in nature, nor do the children of men as a whole experience it. Avoiding danger is no safer in the long run than outright exposure. Life is either a daring adventure, or nothing. -- Helen Keller |
From: Angel Carpintero <ack@te...> - 2007-03-30 07:37:02
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El vie, 30-03-2007 a las 00:24 -0700, Aris Stathakis escribi=C3=B3: > --- Kenneth Lavrsen <kenneth@...> wrote: >=20 > > When you run Motion in setup mode you do not need to > > have it running in=20 > > a terminal window. If you start Motion as a normal > > daemon first, you can=20 > > change it to setup mode via the web interface. > > Motion then continues in=20 > > daemon mode but it displays the black setup pictures > > instead with the=20 > > red, blue and grey dots. >=20 > Thanks Kenneth - I will be trying this next. I am not > using a USB webcam - my hardware is about as standard > as you can get - a Genuine Osprey-100 with a BT848 > chipset (supported by bttv since forever) - and an > Ubuntu linux box. >=20 > The only anomaly I can think of is that i'm using an > AMD CPU Ubuntu linux host - I suppose there is a > possibility that my pre-compiled binaries (downloaded > from the Motion wiki) may have something specific in > them for Intel CPU's? I suppose maybe I could try > compiling Motion from scratch and test that too. Ubuntu packages are not CPU dependent because i made using --without-optimizecpu , anyway i have not any box with Intel CPU :) You can create your own packages as is explained in debian/README.Debian or compile using the generic way : autoconf ; ./configure ; make ; make install=20 > Aris >=20 Cheers, --=20 Angel Carpintero ack ( at ) telefonica ( dot ) net Key fingerprint =3D 3FD3 9C90 149E 7824 CECD 6BCF AC2C CA61 6EF1 B90D "No basta saber, hay que aplicar lo que se sabe;=20 no basta querer hacerlas cosas, hay que hacerlas". "Knowing is not enough; we must apply.=20 Willing is not enough; we must do" Johann Wolfgang von Goethe |
From: Hannes Gruber <hg@gu...> - 2007-03-30 07:29:42
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Ave, >> I recently bought an ir camera that has 420 lines of resolution and an 48 ir led s for night vision in black and white. Day time is color. >> Motion has a hard time detecting pixel changes while at night time. I don't beleve this problem, it is quite strange that the first response to this post was a recommendation, that you can find a better solution with any product from some store. > I have an IR camera (with thirty-six in-built IR LEDs) obtained from an eBay > retailer named panvigor. A serious poster would have mentioned the camera model he uses successfully and not just where it was bought. If he would even mention it. Sorry if I am wrong, but this was too obvious for me. Hannes -- --<>------------------------------------------- Zufallszitat: The reward for a thing well done is to have done it. - Ralph Waldo Emerson !!! http://www.usw.at !!! nimm die Herausforderung an |
From: Aris Stathakis <aris@ya...> - 2007-03-30 07:24:53
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--- Kenneth Lavrsen <kenneth@...> wrote: > When you run Motion in setup mode you do not need to > have it running in > a terminal window. If you start Motion as a normal > daemon first, you can > change it to setup mode via the web interface. > Motion then continues in > daemon mode but it displays the black setup pictures > instead with the > red, blue and grey dots. Thanks Kenneth - I will be trying this next. I am not using a USB webcam - my hardware is about as standard as you can get - a Genuine Osprey-100 with a BT848 chipset (supported by bttv since forever) - and an Ubuntu linux box. The only anomaly I can think of is that i'm using an AMD CPU Ubuntu linux host - I suppose there is a possibility that my pre-compiled binaries (downloaded from the Motion wiki) may have something specific in them for Intel CPU's? I suppose maybe I could try compiling Motion from scratch and test that too. Aris |
From: Kenneth Lavrsen <kenneth@la...> - 2007-03-30 07:02:32
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Aris Stathakis wrote: > --- Bruce <bruce1271@...> wrote: > > >> Hi, >> I recently bought an ir camera that has 420 lines of >> resolution and an 48 ir led s for night vision in >> black and white. Day time is color. >> Motion has a hard time detecting pixel changes while >> at night time. Meaning I can walk in the path of the >> camera and the only pixel change detected is my >> feet, not my entire body. Anyone see this on their >> end? I adjusted the threshold down to 50 pixels but >> it doesn't help. Anyone have an idea? >> > > Try restarting motion and see if this makes any > difference. I've had some issues which might be > similar - killing motion and restarting it resolves it > - the only problem is I have to set a cron job to do > this every morning. > > Aris > > I have now 15 cameras of all kinds running on Motion and I have had Motion running 24 hours a day on a server I rarely ever boot. Motion runs for months and months without ever showing the symptom you describe. Additionally noone has reported this issue for many years. When we have had issues of this kind it has always been problems with buggy Netcam software that made the netcam die or it has been buggy camera drivers. I also have cameras with IR and I have good detection. My Logitech 3000 cameras sometimes end up in an error mode where the picture is too dark. It normally resolves itself when the light conditions change more. Even when I stop Motion and start it again the camera stays dark. A factory reset code to the camera clears the problem. I also have many Philips Toucams. They run with the same chip, same Linux driver and they never display this problem. So this is clearly a problem in the camera firmware from Logitech. I have tried misc cheap USB cameras over the years. Many of them ended up freezing up because of bad firmware. Always the same camera. No matter which USB connection I pluged it to and no matter if I put it on another machine. The fix... step on it hard.. enjoy the crunching sound. When people run into long time problems with cameras the first step is always - run it in setup mode. Not just for 10 seconds. Run it for several days in setup mode and let the camera save films in setup mode. Use the timelapse mode to create mpegs. You can now study how the noise and threshold settings change over time in case you run in auto mode. And you can see how the smartmask develops (red areas). You can see the motion detected (grey) and you can see the largest labeled area which is the one that counts as Motion (blue area). You can also view the number of detected pixels if you turn this feature on. All this will tell you what to adjust. Most cameras automatically adjust the lightsensitivity. Motion has an auto_brightness feature. In 99.9% of the cases it is a bad idea to turn it on. When both the camera and Motion tries to control the intensity, things often go very wrong. When you run Motion in setup mode you do not need to have it running in a terminal window. If you start Motion as a normal daemon first, you can change it to setup mode via the web interface. Motion then continues in daemon mode but it displays the black setup pictures instead with the red, blue and grey dots. Hope this helps. Kenneth |
From: Jeff Groves <jgroves@kr...> - 2007-03-30 03:17:21
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The issue that is a conundrum for me is that sun rise and sun set change every day -- although slightly, but over time you'd have to keep tweaking your crontab. Anyone figure out a way to query some kind of sunrise and sunset database and adjust your crontab times accordingly? Jeff G. Jeff Groves email: jgroves@... Web Site: http://www.krenim.org/ Aris Stathakis wrote: > --- Bruce <bruce1271@...> wrote: > > >> Hi, >> I recently bought an ir camera that has 420 lines of >> resolution and an 48 ir led s for night vision in >> black and white. Day time is color. >> Motion has a hard time detecting pixel changes while >> at night time. Meaning I can walk in the path of the >> camera and the only pixel change detected is my >> feet, not my entire body. Anyone see this on their >> end? I adjusted the threshold down to 50 pixels but >> it doesn't help. Anyone have an idea? >> > > Try restarting motion and see if this makes any > difference. I've had some issues which might be > similar - killing motion and restarting it resolves it > - the only problem is I have to set a cron job to do > this every morning. > > Aris > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT > Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your > opinions on IT & business topics through brief surveys-and earn cash > http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.php&p=sourceforge&CID=DEVDEV > _______________________________________________ > Motion-user mailing list > Motion-user@... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/motion-user > http://www.lavrsen.dk/twiki/bin/view/Motion/WebHome > |
From: Josh Tolbert <hemi@pu...> - 2007-03-29 22:31:01
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On Thu, Mar 29, 2007 at 09:37:05PM +0000, Bruce wrote: > Hi, > I recently bought an ir camera that has 420 lines of resolution and an 48 ir led s for night vision in black and white. Day time is color. > Motion has a hard time detecting pixel changes while at night time. Meaning I can walk in the path of the camera and the only pixel change detected is my feet, not my entire body. Anyone see this on their end? I adjusted the threshold down to 50 pixels but it doesn't help. Anyone have an idea? > > Thanks. Hello Bruce, I have an IR camera (with thirty-six in-built IR LEDs) obtained from an eBay retailer named panvigor. I have no problems at all with motion-detection using the camera at night when the IR LEDs are active. I only had to crank my threshold down to 350 or so, and that's cause my camera is about thirty-five feet above and to the north of the area I want to watch. The camera required the lowered threshold in daylight, too. Thanks, Josh -- Josh Tolbert hemi@... || http://www.puresimplicity.net/~hemi/ Security is mostly a superstition. It does not exist in nature, nor do the children of men as a whole experience it. Avoiding danger is no safer in the long run than outright exposure. Life is either a daring adventure, or nothing. -- Helen Keller |
From: Aris Stathakis <aris@ya...> - 2007-03-29 21:58:51
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--- Bruce <bruce1271@...> wrote: > Hi, > I recently bought an ir camera that has 420 lines of > resolution and an 48 ir led s for night vision in > black and white. Day time is color. > Motion has a hard time detecting pixel changes while > at night time. Meaning I can walk in the path of the > camera and the only pixel change detected is my > feet, not my entire body. Anyone see this on their > end? I adjusted the threshold down to 50 pixels but > it doesn't help. Anyone have an idea? Try restarting motion and see if this makes any difference. I've had some issues which might be similar - killing motion and restarting it resolves it - the only problem is I have to set a cron job to do this every morning. Aris |
From: Andrew Hamilton <hamiltona@mc...> - 2007-03-29 21:46:23
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Bruce wrote: > Hi, > I recently bought an ir camera that has 420 lines of resolution and an 48 ir led s for night vision in black and white. Day time is color. > Motion has a hard time detecting pixel changes while at night time. Meaning I can walk in the path of the camera and the only pixel change detected is my feet, not my entire body. Anyone see this on their end? I adjusted the threshold down to 50 pixels but it doesn't help. Anyone have an idea? > > Thanks. Hi. I have an IR cam that is black and white at night too, and it doesn't seem to have any problems detecting movement. Some things that come to mind first are whether your noise threshold is too high or despeckle is eroding too much of the changed pixels. Sincerely, Andrew Hamilton |
From: <bruce1271@gm...> - 2007-03-29 21:37:06
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Hi, I recently bought an ir camera that has 420 lines of resolution and an 48 ir led s for night vision in black and white. Day time is color. Motion has a hard time detecting pixel changes while at night time. Meaning I can walk in the path of the camera and the only pixel change detected is my feet, not my entire body. Anyone see this on their end? I adjusted the threshold down to 50 pixels but it doesn't help. Anyone have an idea? Thanks. |
From: Stefan Agethen <stagethen@ba...> - 2007-03-29 07:25:50
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Hi All, i recently installed "motion_3.2.7-1.sid_i386.deb" and configured it on a remote system for a friend, the config seems to be okay - motion starts correct, but if i quit the setup mode i can see : "[1] Closing active webcam sockets: No such file or directory" The "LiveStream" is not available at the remote system. Everything else works fine, take a look : ###################### MOTION -NS #################### video:/etc/motion# motion -ns [0] Processing thread 0 - config file motion.conf [0] Motion running in setup mode. [0] Thread 1 is from motion.conf [0] Thread 1 is device: /dev/video0 input 8 [0] Waiting for threads to finish, pid: 5814 [1] Thread started [0] motion-httpd/3.2.7 running, accepting connections [0] motion-httpd: waiting for data on port TCP 8080 [1] Started stream webcam server in port 900 [1] Raw changes: 0 - changes after 'EedDl': 0 - labels: 0 - noise level: 24 [1] Preview buffer allocated [1] Raw changes: 0 - changes after 'EedDl': 0 - labels: 0 - noise level: 24 [1] Raw changes: 0 - changes after 'EedDl': 0 - labels: 0 - noise level: 24 [1] Raw changes: 34816 - changes after 'EedDl': 0 - labels: 10 - noise level: 24 [1] Raw changes: 1 - changes after 'EedDl': 0 - labels: 0 - noise level: 24 [1] Raw changes: 0 - changes after 'EedDl': 0 - labels: 0 - noise level: 24 [1] Raw changes: 0 - changes after 'EedDl': 0 - labels: 0 - noise level: 24 [1] Raw changes: 0 - changes after 'EedDl': 0 - labels: 0 - noise level: 23 [1] File of type 2 saved to: /var/www/01-20070329111725-snapshot.jpg [1] Raw changes: 0 - changes after 'EedDl': 0 - labels: 0 - noise level: 23 [1] Raw changes: 0 - changes after 'EedDl': 0 - labels: 0 - noise level: 23 [1] Raw changes: 0 - changes after 'EedDl': 0 - labels: 0 - noise level: 23 [1] Raw changes: 0 - changes after 'EedDl': 0 - labels: 0 - noise level: 23 [1] Raw changes: 1 - changes after 'EedDl': 0 - labels: 0 - noise level: 23 [1] Raw changes: 2608 - changes after 'EedDl': 0 - labels: 7 - noise level: 23 [1] Raw changes: 0 - changes after 'EedDl': 0 - labels: 0 - noise level: 23 [1] Raw changes: 0 - changes after 'EedDl': 0 - labels: 0 - noise level: 23 [1] Raw changes: 2267 - changes after 'EedDl': 0 - labels: 7 - noise level: 34 [1] Raw changes: 85 - changes after 'EedDl': 0 - labels: 0 - noise level: 34 [1] Raw changes: 30 - changes after 'EedDl': 0 - labels: 0 - noise level: 34 [1] Raw changes: 0 - changes after 'EedDl': 0 - labels: 0 - noise level: 34 [1] Raw changes: 0 - changes after 'EedDl': 0 - labels: 0 - noise level: 34 [1] Raw changes: 0 - changes after 'EedDl': 0 - labels: 0 - noise level: 34 [1] Raw changes: 0 - changes after 'EedDl': 0 - labels: 0 - noise level: 25 [1] Raw changes: 0 - changes after 'EedDl': 0 - labels: 0 - noise level: 25 [1] End of event 1 [1] Raw changes: 0 - changes after 'EedDl': 0 - labels: 0 - noise level: 25 [1] Thread exiting [1] Closing webcam listen socket [1] Closing active webcam sockets: No such file or directory [0] httpd - Finishing: Success [0] httpd Closing [0] Threads finished [0] Motion terminating ########################### END ############################## The part of the config is like this : ####################### MOTION.CONF LIVESTREAM ########### webcam_port 900 webcam_quality 90 webcam_motion off webcam_maxrate 3 webcam_localhost off webcam_limit 0 ########################## END############################## Does anybody have a idea why this happens ? The System is a Debian Distrisbution with 2.6.18 and latest packages for motion - etch. Thanks much for any help. By the way, does anybody ever seen a message "Message too long" in the v4l sources ? I get this on my system if i connect a very new webcam and start motion. Stefan |
From: Toby Moxham <toby@di...> - 2007-03-27 11:03:24
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Hi, Fixed it!! added in /usr/lib/mysql into ld.so.conf and then ran ldconfig all seems to work thanks for your help anyway. Quoting Harald Klemm <HK@...>: > Hi Toby.! > > You need an extra Pakage for mysql-devel. But i have no experience in > Slackware > > BYe > Harald > > http://www.EmptySoft.net > http://www.BoulderHoelle.at > http://www.Wettklettern-Steiermark.at > --- > Wie viele Dinge es doch gibt, die ich nicht brauche! (Sokrates) > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Toby Moxham" <toby@...> > To: <motion-user@...> > Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2007 12:39 PM > Subject: Re: [Motion-user] motion : libmysqlclient problems > > >> I am on Slackware 11 - mysql-5.0.16-i486-1 installed from slackware >> package - how can i check if this package includes mysql-devel? >> >> thanks >> >> Quoting Harald Klemm <HK@...>: >> >> > Hi.! >> > >> > Have you installed mysql-devel? >> > >> > BYe >> > Harald >> > >> > http://www.EmptySoft.net >> > http://www.BoulderHoelle.at >> > http://www.Wettklettern-Steiermark.at >> > --- >> > Wie viele Dinge es doch gibt, die ich nicht brauche! (Sokrates) >> > ----- Original Message ----- >> > From: "Toby Moxham" <toby@...> >> > To: <motion-user@...> >> > Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2007 12:19 PM >> > Subject: [Motion-user] motion : libmysqlclient problems >> > >> > >> >> Hi, >> >> >> >> I have just installed motion - all seemed to compile okay, but when i >> >> run motion i get : >> >> >> >> motion: error while loading shared libraries: libmysqlclient.so.15: >> >> cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory >> >> >> >> # locate libmysqlclient.so.15 >> >> /usr/lib/mysql/libmysqlclient.so.15.0.0 >> >> /usr/lib/mysql/libmysqlclient.so.15 >> >> >> >> it does exist - i use mysql for a number of other things - so it >> >> should be all working fine. >> >> >> >> I have compiled motion without mysql support and it all works fine. >> >> >> >> any ideas? >> >> >> >> Thanks >> >> >> >> >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program. >> >> >> >> >> >>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------= - >> >> Take Surveys. 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Influence the Future of IT > Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share yo= ur > opinions on IT & business topics through brief surveys-and earn cash > http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=3Djoin.php&p=3Dsourceforge&CID=3DD= EVDEV > _______________________________________________ > Motion-user mailing list > Motion-user@... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/motion-user > http://www.lavrsen.dk/twiki/bin/view/Motion/WebHome > > Toby Moxham ---------------------------- Digital Mischief toby@... | http://www.digitalmischief.co.uk | 07814 256404 ---------------------------------------------------------------- This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program. |
From: Harald Klemm <HK@EmptySoft.net> - 2007-03-27 10:43:37
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Hi Toby.! You need an extra Pakage for mysql-devel. But i have no experience in Slackware BYe Harald http://www.EmptySoft.net http://www.BoulderHoelle.at http://www.Wettklettern-Steiermark.at --- Wie viele Dinge es doch gibt, die ich nicht brauche! (Sokrates) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Toby Moxham" <toby@...> To: <motion-user@...> Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2007 12:39 PM Subject: Re: [Motion-user] motion : libmysqlclient problems > I am on Slackware 11 - mysql-5.0.16-i486-1 installed from slackware > package - how can i check if this package includes mysql-devel? > > thanks > > Quoting Harald Klemm <HK@...>: > > > Hi.! > > > > Have you installed mysql-devel? > > > > BYe > > Harald > > > > http://www.EmptySoft.net > > http://www.BoulderHoelle.at > > http://www.Wettklettern-Steiermark.at > > --- > > Wie viele Dinge es doch gibt, die ich nicht brauche! (Sokrates) > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Toby Moxham" <toby@...> > > To: <motion-user@...> > > Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2007 12:19 PM > > Subject: [Motion-user] motion : libmysqlclient problems > > > > > >> Hi, > >> > >> I have just installed motion - all seemed to compile okay, but when i > >> run motion i get : > >> > >> motion: error while loading shared libraries: libmysqlclient.so.15: > >> cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory > >> > >> # locate libmysqlclient.so.15 > >> /usr/lib/mysql/libmysqlclient.so.15.0.0 > >> /usr/lib/mysql/libmysqlclient.so.15 > >> > >> it does exist - i use mysql for a number of other things - so it > >> should be all working fine. > >> > >> I have compiled motion without mysql support and it all works fine. > >> > >> any ideas? > >> > >> Thanks > >> > >> > >> ---------------------------------------------------------------- > >> This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program. > >> > >> > >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > >> Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT > >> Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share > > your > >> opinions on IT & business topics through brief surveys-and earn cash > >> http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.php&p=sourceforge&CID=DEVDEV > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Motion-user mailing list > >> Motion-user@... > >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/motion-user > >> http://www.lavrsen.dk/twiki/bin/view/Motion/WebHome > >> > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT > > Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your > > opinions on IT & business topics through brief surveys-and earn cash > > http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.php&p=sourceforge&CID=DEVDEV > > _______________________________________________ > > Motion-user mailing list > > Motion-user@... > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/motion-user > > http://www.lavrsen.dk/twiki/bin/view/Motion/WebHome > > > > > > > > Toby Moxham > ---------------------------- > Digital Mischief > toby@... | http://www.digitalmischief.co.uk | 07814 256404 > > ---------------------------------------------------------------- > This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program. > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT > Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your > opinions on IT & business topics through brief surveys-and earn cash > http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.php&p=sourceforge&CID=DEVDEV > _______________________________________________ > Motion-user mailing list > Motion-user@... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/motion-user > http://www.lavrsen.dk/twiki/bin/view/Motion/WebHome > |
From: Toby Moxham <toby@di...> - 2007-03-27 10:36:29
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I am on Slackware 11 - mysql-5.0.16-i486-1 installed from slackware =20 package - how can i check if this package includes mysql-devel? thanks Quoting Harald Klemm <HK@...>: > Hi.! > > Have you installed mysql-devel? > > BYe > Harald > > http://www.EmptySoft.net > http://www.BoulderHoelle.at > http://www.Wettklettern-Steiermark.at > --- > Wie viele Dinge es doch gibt, die ich nicht brauche! (Sokrates) > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Toby Moxham" <toby@...> > To: <motion-user@...> > Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2007 12:19 PM > Subject: [Motion-user] motion : libmysqlclient problems > > >> Hi, >> >> I have just installed motion - all seemed to compile okay, but when i >> run motion i get : >> >> motion: error while loading shared libraries: libmysqlclient.so.15: >> cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory >> >> # locate libmysqlclient.so.15 >> /usr/lib/mysql/libmysqlclient.so.15.0.0 >> /usr/lib/mysql/libmysqlclient.so.15 >> >> it does exist - i use mysql for a number of other things - so it >> should be all working fine. >> >> I have compiled motion without mysql support and it all works fine. >> >> any ideas? >> >> Thanks >> >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------- >> This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program. >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT >> Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share > your >> opinions on IT & business topics through brief surveys-and earn cash >> http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=3Djoin.php&p=3Dsourceforge&CID=3D= DEVDEV >> _______________________________________________ >> Motion-user mailing list >> Motion-user@... >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/motion-user >> http://www.lavrsen.dk/twiki/bin/view/Motion/WebHome >> > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT > Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share yo= ur > opinions on IT & business topics through brief surveys-and earn cash > http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=3Djoin.php&p=3Dsourceforge&CID=3DD= EVDEV > _______________________________________________ > Motion-user mailing list > Motion-user@... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/motion-user > http://www.lavrsen.dk/twiki/bin/view/Motion/WebHome > > Toby Moxham ---------------------------- Digital Mischief toby@... | http://www.digitalmischief.co.uk | 07814 256404 ---------------------------------------------------------------- This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program. |
From: Harald Klemm <HK@EmptySoft.net> - 2007-03-27 10:21:06
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Hi.! Have you installed mysql-devel? BYe Harald http://www.EmptySoft.net http://www.BoulderHoelle.at http://www.Wettklettern-Steiermark.at --- Wie viele Dinge es doch gibt, die ich nicht brauche! (Sokrates) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Toby Moxham" <toby@...> To: <motion-user@...> Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2007 12:19 PM Subject: [Motion-user] motion : libmysqlclient problems > Hi, > > I have just installed motion - all seemed to compile okay, but when i > run motion i get : > > motion: error while loading shared libraries: libmysqlclient.so.15: > cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory > > # locate libmysqlclient.so.15 > /usr/lib/mysql/libmysqlclient.so.15.0.0 > /usr/lib/mysql/libmysqlclient.so.15 > > it does exist - i use mysql for a number of other things - so it > should be all working fine. > > I have compiled motion without mysql support and it all works fine. > > any ideas? > > Thanks > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------- > This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program. > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT > Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your > opinions on IT & business topics through brief surveys-and earn cash > http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.php&p=sourceforge&CID=DEVDEV > _______________________________________________ > Motion-user mailing list > Motion-user@... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/motion-user > http://www.lavrsen.dk/twiki/bin/view/Motion/WebHome > |
From: Toby Moxham <toby@di...> - 2007-03-27 10:16:32
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Hi, I have just installed motion - all seemed to compile okay, but when i run motion i get : motion: error while loading shared libraries: libmysqlclient.so.15: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory # locate libmysqlclient.so.15 /usr/lib/mysql/libmysqlclient.so.15.0.0 /usr/lib/mysql/libmysqlclient.so.15 it does exist - i use mysql for a number of other things - so it should be all working fine. I have compiled motion without mysql support and it all works fine. any ideas? Thanks ---------------------------------------------------------------- This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program. |