Re: [Motion-user] 8 ch Hi-resolution DVR Card

[Andy <andy@th...>]

Just to elaborate on something that Joerg mentions:

Joerg WEBER wrote:
> Hallo Hannes,
> 
> I am only using those kind of cameras with 4-port capture cards like spectra8 
> or PV-149. There are quite some different cards at different levels of cost. 
> You must take care that they have 4 real BTTV chips (like BT848) in order to 
> get good results. These cards are working fine under Linux.

The key here is that each input must have its own BTTV chip. The reason 
for this is that when they only have one BTTV chip on the card, it 
presents itself as one device under linux (/dev/video0) and you select 
which input by selecting the input via motion options. This means you 
may only view/access one 'channel' at a time. Motion does have provision 
for swapping between these channels, however it doesn't achieve perfect 
results (I've never got it to reliably do motion detection in this mode).
So realistically I'd totally discount these one-chip cards. If you want 
more than one camera/input you either buy separate boards, or use cards 
with multiple chips.

Therefore an acurate description, and/or picture of the card before you 
purchase is a must! Lots of eBay cards are only single-chip.

Hope that helps expand on the info you've got :-)

-- 
Andy
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Re: [Motion-user] 8 ch Hi-resolution DVR Card

[Andrew Hamilton <hamiltona@mc...>]

Hannes Gruber wrote:
> Ave,
>
> thank you for all your experience, I think I will give it a try. In one 
> month I will be able to answer all that questions too ;-).
>
>   
>> Here is a link to what my KT&C KPC-N600H IR camera captured recently in 
>> my driveway.  I am pretty happy with the quality during the day and 
>> night, except color during the day is rather dull looking.  The length 
>> of cable from the camera to my Linux box is 100 feet.
>>     
>
> The link was missing :-(.
>
> Hannes
>
>   
D'oh! Here ya go: 
http://www.lavrsen.dk/twiki/bin/view/Motion/BurglarCaughtWithMotion

-Andrew

Re: [Motion-user] 8 ch Hi-resolution DVR Card

[Hannes Gruber <hg@gu...>]

Ave,

thank you for all your experience, I think I will give it a try. In one 
month I will be able to answer all that questions too ;-).

> Here is a link to what my KT&C KPC-N600H IR camera captured recently in 
> my driveway.  I am pretty happy with the quality during the day and 
> night, except color during the day is rather dull looking.  The length 
> of cable from the camera to my Linux box is 100 feet.

The link was missing :-(.

Hannes


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Re: [Motion-user] 8 ch Hi-resolution DVR Card

[Joerg WEBER <motion@al...>]

Hallo Hannes,

I am only using those kind of cameras with 4-port capture cards like spectr=
a8=20
or PV-149. There are quite some different cards at different levels of cost=
=2E=20
You must take care that they have 4 real BTTV chips (like BT848) in order t=
o=20
get good results. These cards are working fine under Linux.

One of my cams is about 60 meters far from my puter and the cable is instal=
led=20
close to 220V over at least half of that distance. The quality is still=20
acceptable. Another one is attached to a telephone cable, because I had no=
=20
other choice in that place. It has a converter at each end=20
(Impedanzwandler... http://www.ELV.de). The result is quite amazing!

Brgds Joerg.


Am Freitag, 30. M=E4rz 2007 10:00 schrieb Hannes Gruber:
> Ave,
>
> although I did not believe the Post by eBayShop Panvigor (and maybe I
> was wrong as I read from the reply of Josh), I looked at its site and
> saw a lot of cameras having only BNC connectors.
>
> Up to now I was using networkkapable cameras and connected them via LAN.
>
> Those cameras are very expensive compared to the BNC ones, and I think
> they are a lot less complicated to install. I would not have to
> configure my DHCP, no passwords etc.
>
> I am considering to give those cameras a try and ask for experience. No
> doubt, I would also need a card to connect those cameras to the Motion
> Server.
> Anyone has experience with those cards, and installation on linux? The
> ones I found in this shop did not mention any linux drivers.
>
> Second Using BNC Cables to wire my cameras, is there any limit in
> ditance distance from cam to server?
>
> Do I need special tubes in the wall or can I put them besides the
> electric wires.
>
> Thanks for your input,
>
> Hannes
>

=2D-=20

Re: [Motion-user] 8 ch Hi-resolution DVR Card

[<hamiltona@mc...>]

-------------- Original message from Josh Tolbert <hemi@...>: -------------- 


> On Fri, Mar 30, 2007 at 10:00:55AM +0200, Hannes Gruber wrote: 
> > Ave, 
> > 
> > although I did not believe the Post by eBayShop Panvigor (and maybe I 
> > was wrong as I read from the reply of Josh), I looked at its site and 
> > saw a lot of cameras having only BNC connectors. 
> > 
> > Up to now I was using networkkapable cameras and connected them via LAN. 
> > 
> > Those cameras are very expensive compared to the BNC ones, and I think 
> > they are a lot less complicated to install. I would not have to 
> > configure my DHCP, no passwords etc. 
> > 
> > I am considering to give those cameras a try and ask for experience. No 
> > doubt, I would also need a card to connect those cameras to the Motion 
> > Server. 
> > Anyone has experience with those cards, and installation on linux? The 
> > ones I found in this shop did not mention any linux drivers. 
> > 
> > Second Using BNC Cables to wire my cameras, is there any limit in 
> > ditance distance from cam to server? 
> > 
> > Do I need special tubes in the wall or can I put them besides the 
> > electric wires. 
> > 
> > Thanks for your input, 
> > 
> > Hannes 
> > 
> > @ Josh and all the other, I am sorry, I did not mean to insult Josh. 
> > True, I was reading between the lines, which is quite risky, but I was 
> > tempted to respond to what I read there, because for me it looked like 
> > being print in bold. 
> 
> Hi Hannes, 
> 
> I don't have any experience with these cams on Linux (mostly cause I generally 
> try to avoid Linux whenever possible), but they work quite well under FreeBSD. 
> 
> The "dumb" analog cameras don't care what OS they're talking to. All they do 
> is output an (interlaced) analog signal. You need a card to capture the video 
> signal, though. 
> 
> I purchased some Brooktree 848/878-based cards, three to be exact, from either 
> eBay or people I knew for $15 or less each with shipping included. FreeBSD 
> supports the Brooktree/Conexant 848/878 through the bktr driver. Each card is 
> enumerated as a bktr device once you load the bktr module or rebuild your 
> kernel with bktr support. I have /dev/bktr0, /dev/bktr1 and /dev/bktr2 on my 
> machine since I have three cards installed. I have three threads set up, one 
> for each card/camera combination, and the only line in each file is the 
> videodevice line to point to the specific card. 
> 
> Cable length...I wondered about that myself, but I figured I'd just try it and 
> see. I bought 3x 50' cables, also from panvigor, along with a four-device 
> power supply (12v, 4A). The cameras' outputs are BNC female. The cables are BNC 
> male on both ends, along with the power for each camera in another paired 
> cable. My capture cards have RCA inputs, so I just bought some BNC female to 
> RCA male adapters (from another eBay retailer whose name escapes me at the 
> moment) and use those to connect the cables to the bktr cards. 
> 
> The IR mode on my cameras is nice for seeing shapes, but details are lacking. 
> If you want to see the kind of videos and output I'm getting, feel free to 
> take a look at http://hemi.puresimplicity.net:8081/. It's a slow connection, 
> but you should be able to see what the output looks like. The day-time videos 
> are much better than the night-time videos, and I end up recording interesting 
> things like this: 
> http://hemi.puresimplicity.net:8081/2007/03/30/camera-2/09-15-30.avi. 
> 
> The machine I'm running Motion on is an XP1800+ with 512M RAM in a Foxconn 
> KT600 motherboard. The OS is FreeBSD 6.2-RELEASE. I just have Motion 
> configured to dump its files to the Apache DocumentRoot in order to make the 
> images accessible to others here that only have Windows boxes and don't want 
> to mess with Samba or the like. Along those lines, I have msmpeg4 set for the 
> output format. 
> 
> The only reason I got bent out of shape was cause I wouldn't bother to post if 
> I wasn't serious about it. 
> 
> Good luck, 
> 
> Josh 
Here is a link to what my KT&C KPC-N600H IR camera captured recently in my driveway.  I am pretty happy with the quality during the day and night, except color during the day is rather dull looking.  The length of cable from the camera to my Linux box is 100 feet.

Sincerely,
Andrew Hamilton

Re: [Motion-user] 8 ch Hi-resolution DVR Card

[Josh Tolbert <hemi@pu...>]

On Fri, Mar 30, 2007 at 10:00:55AM +0200, Hannes Gruber wrote:
> Ave,
> 
> although I did not believe the Post by eBayShop Panvigor (and maybe I 
> was wrong as I read from the reply of Josh), I looked at its site and 
> saw a lot of cameras having only BNC connectors.
> 
> Up to now I was using networkkapable cameras and connected them via LAN.
> 
> Those cameras are very expensive compared to the BNC ones, and I think 
> they are a lot less complicated to install. I would not have to 
> configure my DHCP, no passwords etc.
> 
> I am considering to give those cameras a try and ask for experience. No 
> doubt, I would also need a card to connect those cameras to the Motion 
> Server.
> Anyone has experience with those cards, and installation on linux? The 
> ones I found in this shop did not mention any linux drivers.
> 
> Second Using BNC Cables to wire my cameras, is there any limit in 
> ditance distance from cam to server?
> 
> Do I need special tubes in the wall or can I put them besides the 
> electric wires.
> 
> Thanks for your input,
> 
> Hannes
> 
> @ Josh and all the other, I am sorry, I did not mean to insult Josh. 
> True, I was reading between the lines, which is quite risky, but I was 
> tempted to respond to what I read there, because for me it looked like 
> being print in bold.

Hi Hannes,

I don't have any experience with these cams on Linux (mostly cause I generally
try to avoid Linux whenever possible), but they work quite well under FreeBSD.

The "dumb" analog cameras don't care what OS they're talking to. All they do
is output an (interlaced) analog signal. You need a card to capture the video
signal, though.

I purchased some Brooktree 848/878-based cards, three to be exact, from either
eBay or people I knew for $15 or less each with shipping included. FreeBSD
supports the Brooktree/Conexant 848/878 through the bktr driver. Each card is
enumerated as a bktr device once you load the bktr module or rebuild your
kernel with bktr support. I have /dev/bktr0, /dev/bktr1 and /dev/bktr2 on my
machine since I have three cards installed. I have three threads set up, one
for each card/camera combination, and the only line in each file is the
videodevice line to point to the specific card.

Cable length...I wondered about that myself, but I figured I'd just try it and
see. I bought 3x 50' cables, also from panvigor, along with a four-device
power supply (12v, 4A). The cameras' outputs are BNC female. The cables are BNC
male on both ends, along with the power for each camera in another paired
cable. My capture cards have RCA inputs, so I just bought some BNC female to
RCA male adapters (from another eBay retailer whose name escapes me at the
moment) and use those to connect the cables to the bktr cards.

The IR mode on my cameras is nice for seeing shapes, but details are lacking.
If you want to see the kind of videos and output I'm getting, feel free to
take a look at http://hemi.puresimplicity.net:8081/. It's a slow connection,
but you should be able to see what the output looks like. The day-time videos
are much better than the night-time videos, and I end up recording interesting
things like this:
http://hemi.puresimplicity.net:8081/2007/03/30/camera-2/09-15-30.avi.

The machine I'm running Motion on is an XP1800+ with 512M RAM in a Foxconn
KT600 motherboard. The OS is FreeBSD 6.2-RELEASE. I just have Motion
configured to dump its files to the Apache DocumentRoot in order to make the
images accessible to others here that only have Windows boxes and don't want
to mess with Samba or the like. Along those lines, I have msmpeg4 set for the
output format.

The only reason I got bent out of shape was cause I wouldn't bother to post if
I wasn't serious about it.

Good luck,

Josh
-- 
Josh Tolbert
hemi@...  ||  http://www.puresimplicity.net/~hemi/

Security is mostly a superstition. It does not exist in nature, nor
do the children of men as a whole experience it. Avoiding danger
is no safer in the long run than outright exposure. Life is either
a daring adventure, or nothing.
    -- Helen Keller

Re: [Motion-user] Night vision detection is bad

[Andrew Hamilton <hamiltona@mc...>]

Bruce wrote:
> Hi,
> I recently bought an ir camera that has 420 lines of resolution and an 48 ir led s for night vision in black and white. Day time is color.  
> Motion has a hard time detecting pixel changes while at night time. Meaning I can walk in the path of the camera and the only pixel change detected is my feet, not my entire body.  Anyone see this on their end?  I adjusted the threshold down to 50 pixels but it doesn't help. Anyone have an idea?
>
> Thanks. 
>
>   
As Kenneth mentioned earlier, setup mode will probably help you out a 
lot here.  Something that I have found useful in the past as well is to 
enable 'ffmpeg_cap_motion' so that you can see a movie of the pixels 
that Motion sees changing.  This may give a hint to the issue.  Good luck.

-Andrew Hamilton

Re: [Motion-user] Night vision detection is bad

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[Motion-user] 8 ch Hi-resolution DVR Card

[Hannes Gruber <hg@gu...>]

Ave,

although I did not believe the Post by eBayShop Panvigor (and maybe I 
was wrong as I read from the reply of Josh), I looked at its site and 
saw a lot of cameras having only BNC connectors.

Up to now I was using networkkapable cameras and connected them via LAN.

Those cameras are very expensive compared to the BNC ones, and I think 
they are a lot less complicated to install. I would not have to 
configure my DHCP, no passwords etc.

I am considering to give those cameras a try and ask for experience. No 
doubt, I would also need a card to connect those cameras to the Motion 
Server.
Anyone has experience with those cards, and installation on linux? The 
ones I found in this shop did not mention any linux drivers.

Second Using BNC Cables to wire my cameras, is there any limit in 
ditance distance from cam to server?

Do I need special tubes in the wall or can I put them besides the 
electric wires.

Thanks for your input,

Hannes

@ Josh and all the other, I am sorry, I did not mean to insult Josh. 
True, I was reading between the lines, which is quite risky, but I was 
tempted to respond to what I read there, because for me it looked like 
being print in bold.


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Re: [Motion-user] Night vision detection is bad

[Josh Tolbert <hemi@pu...>]

On Fri, Mar 30, 2007 at 09:29:39AM +0200, Hannes Gruber wrote:
> Ave,
> 
> >> I recently bought an ir camera that has 420 lines of resolution and an 48 ir led s for night vision in black and white. Day time is color.  
> >> Motion has a hard time detecting pixel changes while at night time.
> I don't beleve this problem, it is quite strange that the first response 
> to this post was a recommendation, that you can find a better solution 
> with any product from some store.
> 
> > I have an IR camera (with thirty-six in-built IR LEDs) obtained from an eBay
> > retailer named panvigor.
> A serious poster would have mentioned the camera model he uses 
> successfully and not just where it was bought. If he would even mention it.
> 
> Sorry if I am wrong, but this was too obvious for me.
> 
> Hannes

Yes, you are wrong. :)

Note that I didn't suggest any product. I stated what worked for me and that
what I was seeing wasn't what the original poster was dealing with.

Maybe I didn't mention the model cause the brand name of the camera is the
same as the eBay seller's. Maybe you could do some digging before claiming
someone isn't "a serious poster." Considering I've got three of these things
and have them all in use (as of tonight), I do know a bit about them (and how
they work with Motion).

If you'd like, I could link you to the exact cameras I'm using...But, frankly,
if you can't find them on your own you must not be serious. :)

"Panvigor" sells a few cameras with thirty-six IR LEDs. They're all the same
camera, just different-power LEDs. You'd have realized a model name/number was
fairly irrelevant had you bothered to look instead of claiming I'm not "a
serious poster." I wasn't saying he should go out and buy some of these
cameras, I simply stated that what I had was working for me and not exhibiting
the behavior the original poster said he was seeing.

Maybe if you were serious about offering some useful input you'd stop reading
between the lines and seeing a sales pitch when there isn't one. I have
nothing to do with "panvigor" besides buying a few cameras from them.

"Seriously" yours,

Josh
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Re: [Motion-user] Night vision detection is bad

[Angel Carpintero <ack@te...>]

El vie, 30-03-2007 a las 00:24 -0700, Aris Stathakis escribi=C3=B3:
> --- Kenneth Lavrsen <kenneth@...> wrote:
>=20
> > When you run Motion in setup mode you do not need to
> > have it running in=20
> > a terminal window. If you start Motion as a normal
> > daemon first, you can=20
> > change it to setup mode via the web interface.
> > Motion then continues in=20
> > daemon mode but it displays the black setup pictures
> > instead with the=20
> > red, blue and grey dots.
>=20
> Thanks Kenneth - I will be trying this next.  I am not
> using a USB webcam - my hardware is about as standard
> as you can get - a Genuine Osprey-100 with a BT848
> chipset (supported by bttv since forever) - and an
> Ubuntu linux box.
>=20
> The only anomaly I can think of is that i'm using an
> AMD CPU Ubuntu linux host - I suppose there is a
> possibility that my pre-compiled binaries (downloaded
> from the Motion wiki) may have something specific in
> them for Intel CPU's?  I suppose maybe I could try
> compiling Motion from scratch and test that too.

Ubuntu packages are not CPU dependent because i made using
--without-optimizecpu , anyway i have not any box with Intel CPU :)

You can create your own packages as is explained in debian/README.Debian
or compile using the generic way :

 autoconf ; ./configure ; make ; make install=20


> Aris
>=20

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Re: [Motion-user] Night vision detection is bad

[Hannes Gruber <hg@gu...>]

Ave,

>> I recently bought an ir camera that has 420 lines of resolution and an 48 ir led s for night vision in black and white. Day time is color.  
>> Motion has a hard time detecting pixel changes while at night time.
I don't beleve this problem, it is quite strange that the first response 
to this post was a recommendation, that you can find a better solution 
with any product from some store.

> I have an IR camera (with thirty-six in-built IR LEDs) obtained from an eBay
> retailer named panvigor.
A serious poster would have mentioned the camera model he uses 
successfully and not just where it was bought. If he would even mention it.

Sorry if I am wrong, but this was too obvious for me.

Hannes
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Re: [Motion-user] Night vision detection is bad

[Aris Stathakis <aris@ya...>]

--- Kenneth Lavrsen <kenneth@...> wrote:

> When you run Motion in setup mode you do not need to
> have it running in 
> a terminal window. If you start Motion as a normal
> daemon first, you can 
> change it to setup mode via the web interface.
> Motion then continues in 
> daemon mode but it displays the black setup pictures
> instead with the 
> red, blue and grey dots.

Thanks Kenneth - I will be trying this next.  I am not
using a USB webcam - my hardware is about as standard
as you can get - a Genuine Osprey-100 with a BT848
chipset (supported by bttv since forever) - and an
Ubuntu linux box.

The only anomaly I can think of is that i'm using an
AMD CPU Ubuntu linux host - I suppose there is a
possibility that my pre-compiled binaries (downloaded
from the Motion wiki) may have something specific in
them for Intel CPU's?  I suppose maybe I could try
compiling Motion from scratch and test that too.

Aris

Re: [Motion-user] Night vision detection is bad

[Kenneth Lavrsen <kenneth@la...>]

Aris Stathakis wrote:
> --- Bruce <bruce1271@...> wrote:
>
>   
>> Hi,
>> I recently bought an ir camera that has 420 lines of
>> resolution and an 48 ir led s for night vision in
>> black and white. Day time is color.  
>> Motion has a hard time detecting pixel changes while
>> at night time. Meaning I can walk in the path of the
>> camera and the only pixel change detected is my
>> feet, not my entire body.  Anyone see this on their
>> end?  I adjusted the threshold down to 50 pixels but
>> it doesn't help. Anyone have an idea?
>>     
>
> Try restarting motion and see if this makes any
> difference.  I've had some issues which might be
> similar - killing motion and restarting it resolves it
> - the only problem is I have to set a cron job to do
> this every morning.
>
> Aris
>
>   
I have now 15 cameras of all kinds running on Motion and I have had 
Motion running 24 hours a day on a server I rarely ever boot.

Motion runs for months and months without ever showing the symptom you 
describe.

Additionally noone has reported this issue for many years.

When we have had issues of this kind it has always been problems with 
buggy Netcam software that made the netcam die or it has been buggy 
camera drivers.

I also have cameras with IR and I have good detection.

My Logitech 3000 cameras sometimes end up in an error mode where the 
picture is too dark. It normally resolves itself when the light 
conditions change more. Even when I stop Motion and start it again the 
camera stays dark. A factory reset code to the camera clears the 
problem. I also have many Philips Toucams. They run with the same chip, 
same Linux driver and they never display this problem. So this is 
clearly a problem in the camera firmware from Logitech.

I have tried misc cheap USB cameras over the years. Many of them ended 
up freezing up because of bad firmware. Always the same camera. No 
matter which USB connection I pluged it to and no matter if I put it on 
another machine. The fix... step on it hard.. enjoy the crunching sound.


When people run into long time problems with cameras the first step is 
always - run it in setup mode. Not just for 10 seconds. Run it for 
several days in setup mode and let the camera save films in setup mode. 
Use the timelapse mode to create mpegs. You can now study how the noise 
and threshold settings change over time in case you run in auto mode. 
And you can see how the smartmask develops (red areas). You can see the 
motion detected (grey) and you can see the largest  labeled area  which 
is the one that counts as Motion (blue area). You can also view the 
number of detected pixels if you turn this feature on. All this will 
tell you what to adjust.

Most cameras automatically adjust the lightsensitivity. Motion has an 
auto_brightness feature. In 99.9% of the cases it is a bad idea to turn 
it on. When both the camera and Motion tries to control the intensity, 
things often go very wrong.

When you run Motion in setup mode you do not need to have it running in 
a terminal window. If you start Motion as a normal daemon first, you can 
change it to setup mode via the web interface. Motion then continues in 
daemon mode but it displays the black setup pictures instead with the 
red, blue and grey dots.


Hope this helps.

Kenneth

Re: [Motion-user] Night vision detection is bad

[Jeff Groves <jgroves@kr...>]

The issue that is a conundrum for me is that sun rise and sun set change 
every day -- although slightly, but over time you'd have to keep 
tweaking your crontab.

Anyone figure out a way to query some kind of sunrise and sunset 
database and adjust your crontab times accordingly?

Jeff G.

Jeff Groves
email: jgroves@...             Web Site: http://www.krenim.org/



Aris Stathakis wrote:
> --- Bruce <bruce1271@...> wrote:
>
>   
>> Hi,
>> I recently bought an ir camera that has 420 lines of
>> resolution and an 48 ir led s for night vision in
>> black and white. Day time is color.  
>> Motion has a hard time detecting pixel changes while
>> at night time. Meaning I can walk in the path of the
>> camera and the only pixel change detected is my
>> feet, not my entire body.  Anyone see this on their
>> end?  I adjusted the threshold down to 50 pixels but
>> it doesn't help. Anyone have an idea?
>>     
>
> Try restarting motion and see if this makes any
> difference.  I've had some issues which might be
> similar - killing motion and restarting it resolves it
> - the only problem is I have to set a cron job to do
> this every morning.
>
> Aris
>
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Re: [Motion-user] Night vision detection is bad

[Josh Tolbert <hemi@pu...>]

On Thu, Mar 29, 2007 at 09:37:05PM +0000, Bruce wrote:
> Hi,
> I recently bought an ir camera that has 420 lines of resolution and an 48 ir led s for night vision in black and white. Day time is color.  
> Motion has a hard time detecting pixel changes while at night time. Meaning I can walk in the path of the camera and the only pixel change detected is my feet, not my entire body.  Anyone see this on their end?  I adjusted the threshold down to 50 pixels but it doesn't help. Anyone have an idea?
> 
> Thanks. 

Hello Bruce,

I have an IR camera (with thirty-six in-built IR LEDs) obtained from an eBay
retailer named panvigor. I have no problems at all with motion-detection using
the camera at night when the IR LEDs are active. I only had to crank my
threshold down to 350 or so, and that's cause my camera is about thirty-five
feet above and to the north of the area I want to watch. The camera required
the lowered threshold in daylight, too.

Thanks,

Josh
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is no safer in the long run than outright exposure. Life is either
a daring adventure, or nothing.
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Re: [Motion-user] Night vision detection is bad

[Aris Stathakis <aris@ya...>]

--- Bruce <bruce1271@...> wrote:

> Hi,
> I recently bought an ir camera that has 420 lines of
> resolution and an 48 ir led s for night vision in
> black and white. Day time is color.  
> Motion has a hard time detecting pixel changes while
> at night time. Meaning I can walk in the path of the
> camera and the only pixel change detected is my
> feet, not my entire body.  Anyone see this on their
> end?  I adjusted the threshold down to 50 pixels but
> it doesn't help. Anyone have an idea?

Try restarting motion and see if this makes any
difference.  I've had some issues which might be
similar - killing motion and restarting it resolves it
- the only problem is I have to set a cron job to do
this every morning.

Aris

Re: [Motion-user] Night vision detection is bad

[Andrew Hamilton <hamiltona@mc...>]

Bruce wrote:
> Hi,
> I recently bought an ir camera that has 420 lines of resolution and an 48 ir led s for night vision in black and white. Day time is color.  
> Motion has a hard time detecting pixel changes while at night time. Meaning I can walk in the path of the camera and the only pixel change detected is my feet, not my entire body.  Anyone see this on their end?  I adjusted the threshold down to 50 pixels but it doesn't help. Anyone have an idea?
>
> Thanks. 
Hi. I have an IR cam that is black and white at night too, and it 
doesn't seem to have any problems detecting movement.  Some things that 
come to mind first are whether your noise threshold is too high or 
despeckle is eroding too much of the changed pixels.

Sincerely,
Andrew Hamilton

[Motion-user] Night vision detection is bad

[<bruce1271@gm...>]

Hi,
I recently bought an ir camera that has 420 lines of resolution and an 48 ir led s for night vision in black and white. Day time is color.  
Motion has a hard time detecting pixel changes while at night time. Meaning I can walk in the path of the camera and the only pixel change detected is my feet, not my entire body.  Anyone see this on their end?  I adjusted the threshold down to 50 pixels but it doesn't help. Anyone have an idea?

Thanks. 
  

[Motion-user] Closing Webcam Sockets => No such file or directory

[Stefan Agethen <stagethen@ba...>]

Hi All,

i recently installed "motion_3.2.7-1.sid_i386.deb" and configured it on 
a remote system for a friend,
the config seems to be okay - motion starts correct, but if i quit the 
setup mode i can see :

"[1] Closing active webcam sockets: No such file or directory"

The "LiveStream" is not available at the remote system.


Everything else works fine, take a look :

###################### MOTION -NS ####################
video:/etc/motion# motion -ns
[0] Processing thread 0 - config file motion.conf
[0] Motion running in setup mode.
[0] Thread 1 is from motion.conf
[0] Thread 1 is device: /dev/video0 input 8
[0] Waiting for threads to finish, pid: 5814
[1] Thread started
[0] motion-httpd/3.2.7 running, accepting connections
[0] motion-httpd: waiting for data on port TCP 8080
[1] Started stream webcam server in port 900
[1] Raw changes:     0 - changes after 'EedDl':     0 - labels:   0 - 
noise level: 24
[1] Preview buffer allocated
[1] Raw changes:     0 - changes after 'EedDl':     0 - labels:   0 - 
noise level: 24
[1] Raw changes:     0 - changes after 'EedDl':     0 - labels:   0 - 
noise level: 24
[1] Raw changes: 34816 - changes after 'EedDl':     0 - labels:  10 - 
noise level: 24
[1] Raw changes:     1 - changes after 'EedDl':     0 - labels:   0 - 
noise level: 24
[1] Raw changes:     0 - changes after 'EedDl':     0 - labels:   0 - 
noise level: 24
[1] Raw changes:     0 - changes after 'EedDl':     0 - labels:   0 - 
noise level: 24
[1] Raw changes:     0 - changes after 'EedDl':     0 - labels:   0 - 
noise level: 23
[1] File of type 2 saved to: /var/www/01-20070329111725-snapshot.jpg
[1] Raw changes:     0 - changes after 'EedDl':     0 - labels:   0 - 
noise level: 23
[1] Raw changes:     0 - changes after 'EedDl':     0 - labels:   0 - 
noise level: 23
[1] Raw changes:     0 - changes after 'EedDl':     0 - labels:   0 - 
noise level: 23
[1] Raw changes:     0 - changes after 'EedDl':     0 - labels:   0 - 
noise level: 23
[1] Raw changes:     1 - changes after 'EedDl':     0 - labels:   0 - 
noise level: 23
[1] Raw changes:  2608 - changes after 'EedDl':     0 - labels:   7 - 
noise level: 23
[1] Raw changes:     0 - changes after 'EedDl':     0 - labels:   0 - 
noise level: 23
[1] Raw changes:     0 - changes after 'EedDl':     0 - labels:   0 - 
noise level: 23
[1] Raw changes:  2267 - changes after 'EedDl':     0 - labels:   7 - 
noise level: 34
[1] Raw changes:    85 - changes after 'EedDl':     0 - labels:   0 - 
noise level: 34
[1] Raw changes:    30 - changes after 'EedDl':     0 - labels:   0 - 
noise level: 34
[1] Raw changes:     0 - changes after 'EedDl':     0 - labels:   0 - 
noise level: 34
[1] Raw changes:     0 - changes after 'EedDl':     0 - labels:   0 - 
noise level: 34
[1] Raw changes:     0 - changes after 'EedDl':     0 - labels:   0 - 
noise level: 34
[1] Raw changes:     0 - changes after 'EedDl':     0 - labels:   0 - 
noise level: 25
[1] Raw changes:     0 - changes after 'EedDl':     0 - labels:   0 - 
noise level: 25
[1] End of event 1
[1] Raw changes:     0 - changes after 'EedDl':     0 - labels:   0 - 
noise level: 25
[1] Thread exiting
[1] Closing webcam listen socket
[1] Closing active webcam sockets: No such file or directory
[0] httpd - Finishing: Success
[0] httpd Closing
[0] Threads finished
[0] Motion terminating
########################### END ##############################

The part of the config is like this :

####################### MOTION.CONF LIVESTREAM ###########
webcam_port 900
webcam_quality 90
webcam_motion off
webcam_maxrate 3
webcam_localhost off
webcam_limit 0
########################## END##############################

Does anybody have a idea why this happens ?

The System is a Debian Distrisbution with 2.6.18 and latest packages for 
motion - etch.

Thanks much for any help.

By the way, does anybody ever seen a message "Message too long" in the 
v4l sources ? I get this on my system if i connect a very new webcam and 
start motion.

Stefan

Re: [Motion-user] motion : libmysqlclient problems

[Toby Moxham <toby@di...>]

Hi,

Fixed it!!

added in /usr/lib/mysql into ld.so.conf
and then ran ldconfig

all seems to work

thanks for your help anyway.


Quoting Harald Klemm <HK@...>:

> Hi Toby.!
>
> You need an extra Pakage for mysql-devel. But i have no experience in
> Slackware
>
> BYe
>      Harald
>
> http://www.EmptySoft.net
> http://www.BoulderHoelle.at
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> ---
> Wie viele Dinge es doch gibt, die ich nicht brauche! (Sokrates)
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Toby Moxham" <toby@...>
> To: <motion-user@...>
> Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2007 12:39 PM
> Subject: Re: [Motion-user] motion : libmysqlclient problems
>
>
>> I am on Slackware 11 - mysql-5.0.16-i486-1 installed from slackware
>> package - how can i check if this package includes mysql-devel?
>>
>> thanks
>>
>> Quoting Harald Klemm <HK@...>:
>>
>> > Hi.!
>> >
>> > Have you installed mysql-devel?
>> >
>> > BYe
>> >      Harald
>> >
>> > http://www.EmptySoft.net
>> > http://www.BoulderHoelle.at
>> > http://www.Wettklettern-Steiermark.at
>> > ---
>> > Wie viele Dinge es doch gibt, die ich nicht brauche! (Sokrates)
>> > ----- Original Message -----
>> > From: "Toby Moxham" <toby@...>
>> > To: <motion-user@...>
>> > Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2007 12:19 PM
>> > Subject: [Motion-user] motion : libmysqlclient problems
>> >
>> >
>> >> Hi,
>> >>
>> >> I have just installed motion - all seemed to compile okay, but when i
>> >> run motion i get :
>> >>
>> >> motion: error while loading shared libraries: libmysqlclient.so.15:
>> >> cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
>> >>
>> >> # locate libmysqlclient.so.15
>> >> /usr/lib/mysql/libmysqlclient.so.15.0.0
>> >> /usr/lib/mysql/libmysqlclient.so.15
>> >>
>> >> it does exist - i use mysql for a number of other things - so it
>> >> should be all working fine.
>> >>
>> >> I have compiled motion without mysql support and it all works fine.
>> >>
>> >> any ideas?
>> >>
>> >> Thanks
>> >>
>> >>
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Re: [Motion-user] motion : libmysqlclient problems

[Harald Klemm <HK@EmptySoft.net>]

Hi Toby.!

You need an extra Pakage for mysql-devel. But i have no experience in
Slackware

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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Toby Moxham" <toby@...>
To: <motion-user@...>
Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2007 12:39 PM
Subject: Re: [Motion-user] motion : libmysqlclient problems


> I am on Slackware 11 - mysql-5.0.16-i486-1 installed from slackware
> package - how can i check if this package includes mysql-devel?
>
> thanks
>
> Quoting Harald Klemm <HK@...>:
>
> > Hi.!
> >
> > Have you installed mysql-devel?
> >
> > BYe
> >      Harald
> >
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> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Toby Moxham" <toby@...>
> > To: <motion-user@...>
> > Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2007 12:19 PM
> > Subject: [Motion-user] motion : libmysqlclient problems
> >
> >
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> I have just installed motion - all seemed to compile okay, but when i
> >> run motion i get :
> >>
> >> motion: error while loading shared libraries: libmysqlclient.so.15:
> >> cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
> >>
> >> # locate libmysqlclient.so.15
> >> /usr/lib/mysql/libmysqlclient.so.15.0.0
> >> /usr/lib/mysql/libmysqlclient.so.15
> >>
> >> it does exist - i use mysql for a number of other things - so it
> >> should be all working fine.
> >>
> >> I have compiled motion without mysql support and it all works fine.
> >>
> >> any ideas?
> >>
> >> Thanks
> >>
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Re: [Motion-user] motion : libmysqlclient problems

[Toby Moxham <toby@di...>]

I am on Slackware 11 - mysql-5.0.16-i486-1 installed from slackware =20
package - how can i check if this package includes mysql-devel?

thanks

Quoting Harald Klemm <HK@...>:

> Hi.!
>
> Have you installed mysql-devel?
>
> BYe
>      Harald
>
> http://www.EmptySoft.net
> http://www.BoulderHoelle.at
> http://www.Wettklettern-Steiermark.at
> ---
> Wie viele Dinge es doch gibt, die ich nicht brauche! (Sokrates)
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Toby Moxham" <toby@...>
> To: <motion-user@...>
> Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2007 12:19 PM
> Subject: [Motion-user] motion : libmysqlclient problems
>
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I have just installed motion - all seemed to compile okay, but when i
>> run motion i get :
>>
>> motion: error while loading shared libraries: libmysqlclient.so.15:
>> cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
>>
>> # locate libmysqlclient.so.15
>> /usr/lib/mysql/libmysqlclient.so.15.0.0
>> /usr/lib/mysql/libmysqlclient.so.15
>>
>> it does exist - i use mysql for a number of other things - so it
>> should be all working fine.
>>
>> I have compiled motion without mysql support and it all works fine.
>>
>> any ideas?
>>
>> Thanks
>>
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Re: [Motion-user] motion : libmysqlclient problems

[Harald Klemm <HK@EmptySoft.net>]

Hi.!

Have you installed mysql-devel?

BYe
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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Toby Moxham" <toby@...>
To: <motion-user@...>
Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2007 12:19 PM
Subject: [Motion-user] motion : libmysqlclient problems


> Hi,
>
> I have just installed motion - all seemed to compile okay, but when i
> run motion i get :
>
> motion: error while loading shared libraries: libmysqlclient.so.15:
> cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
>
> # locate libmysqlclient.so.15
> /usr/lib/mysql/libmysqlclient.so.15.0.0
> /usr/lib/mysql/libmysqlclient.so.15
>
> it does exist - i use mysql for a number of other things - so it
> should be all working fine.
>
> I have compiled motion without mysql support and it all works fine.
>
> any ideas?
>
> Thanks
>
>
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[Motion-user] motion : libmysqlclient problems

[Toby Moxham <toby@di...>]

Hi,

I have just installed motion - all seemed to compile okay, but when i  
run motion i get :

motion: error while loading shared libraries: libmysqlclient.so.15:  
cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory

# locate libmysqlclient.so.15
/usr/lib/mysql/libmysqlclient.so.15.0.0
/usr/lib/mysql/libmysqlclient.so.15

it does exist - i use mysql for a number of other things - so it  
should be all working fine.

I have compiled motion without mysql support and it all works fine.

any ideas?

Thanks


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