Re: [morph-developer] ASF incubation proposal take 2

[Matt B. <gud...@ya...>]

Sorry about the delay.  Anyway, it sounds like we're
back to [] 1.  :)  I will submit Morph-proposal-take-2
to general@jakarta and we can go from there.

br,
Matt

--- Matt Sgarlata
<Mat...@wh...> wrote:

> Matt Benson wrote:
> > why'd you have to break it
> > out, Matt? ;)
> 
> LOL, perhaps in retrospect it wasn't the best idea. 
> I guess it had just 
> grown in sophistication to the point where I felt it
> just really didn't 
> belong embedded inside Morph anymore.  I knew it
> could cause problems if 
> Morph were to try to move to Apache, but the focus
> of the context 
> package really has nothing at all to do with the
> purpose of Morph, it's 
> more of an implementation choice.
> 
> > .  I would say we could present the
> > situation on general@jakarta, but my expectation
> is
> > that the obvious reaction would "path of least
> effort"
> > i.e. (C).
> >   
> 
> That seems wise to me.  I don't think anyone really
> has interest in 
> writing test cases and a reference manual for the
> package, and if we 
> moved it to Apache we probably would have to do all
> that.
> 
> > >From what I can tell, Composite's completeness
> level
> > might be pretty close to "the right level" for
> > incubation, which is too say not _too_ complete. 
> You
> > can't attract developers to, and thereby develop a
> > community for, code for which there is nothing to
> do,
> > after all.  Composite seems to specify a
> development
> > direction and just need completion of what has
> already
> > been specified, plus maybe one or two more
> niceties,
> > e.g. a delegating proxy that will recursively
> forward
> > method calls to components, perhaps.  However,
> does
> > anyone have the "itch" to do all this ATM?  If
> not,
> > this also recommends option (C) until someone
> does. 
> > :|
> >   
> 
> Although I use Morph all the time in my day to day
> coding, I've never 
> used Composite for anything other than to help me
> implement Morph.  So I 
> personally don't have this itch and I really don't
> know who might.  As 
> you say, this seems to be another factor pointing to
> option C.
> 
> One thing I don't think anyone has explicitly
> mentioned is that there is 
> the Chain package in Commons which also aims to help
> provide an 
> implementation of a design pattern.  That might mean
> there is interest 
> in packages that help with design patterns, or it
> might just mean people 
> are interested in the Chain pattern.  I have no
> idea.
> 
> Matt S
> 
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