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From: Flow J. <fl...@gm...> - 2011-02-21 16:03:56
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Hi, Just found another issue. I cleared about 10000 reserved files with the script provided at http://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&aid=3104619&group_id=228631&atid=1075722 yesterday, and this morning I had 0 reserved file when started working. However, after one day development activity with 6 workstations, now we have 204 reserved files not deleted. I've noticed it's stated that "Each session after two hours is automatically closed and all the files are released." in above link, but seems it's not happening in our environment. We have CentOS 5.5 x86 servers and run mfsmount on Fedora 12 x64 workstations. Both servers and workstations run mfs 1.6.19. And mfs is serving as home with read / write access. Here are some example of the reserved files by reading the metadata: 00067856|UserHome|tompan|.mozilla|firefox|mk9e32d7.default|OfflineCache|index.sqlite-journal 00067857|UserHome|tompan|.mozilla|firefox|mk9e32d7.default|OfflineCache|index.sqlite-journal Most of the 204 reserved files look like temp / journal files. Any ideas about the cause of the issue? BTW, OpenOffice fails to start if MFS serves as home directory. It should be a FS bug as stated on: http://qa.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=113207. Would it be related to the issue above? And can we fix this OOo issue? Many Thanks Flow |
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From: Flow J. <fl...@gm...> - 2011-02-26 17:20:27
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Hi, I now know how to re-create the issue and it should also be related to AutoFS. I noticed that if I make a new file with non-zero size and delete it immediately, it will be set as reserved file and keep at this state for a while (about 1 minute in our environment). If the underlying MooseFS is unmounted within this short period, the behavior differs between fstab mounted FS and AufoFS mounted FS. * If the FS is mounted by fstab, create and delete a file, then unmount the FS, the file eventually gets deleted * If the FS is mounted by autofs, create and delete a file, then unmount the FS, the file remains as reserved forever And unfortunately we are relying on the timeout feature of AutoFS so unmount happens frequently. This is the reason we have so many cache files (created then deleted during one mount session) remaining as reserved files forever. Our AutoFS mount option is mentioned in the other thread (http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?thread_name=4D68E18F.3000708%40gmail.com&forum_name=moosefs-users). And the issue looks like the same: * If the FS is mounted by fstab, writing a file (> 1M) to some folder then unmount it, works O.K. * If the FS is mounted by autofs, writing a file (> 1M) to some folder then unmount it, core file gets dumped Increasing autofs timeout would help for the reserved file issue but not for the core dump issue. And even if the timeout is increased, a restart / power off of the system still won't leave enough time for the file to be totally deleted. I do have a work around to fix the 2 issues temporarily, by mounting the entire MFS system with fstab and use "-fstype=bind" option in autofs to make auto mounting/unmounting happen. But this is complicated and different mfs mount options can't be set with different subfolders. So I do hope I can have native AutoFS supported MooseFS mounts. Can any one help on this? Many Thanks Flow On 02/22/2011 12:03 AM, Flow Jiang wrote: > Hi, > > Just found another issue. I cleared about 10000 reserved files with > the script provided at > http://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&aid=3104619&group_id=228631&atid=1075722 > yesterday, and this morning I had 0 reserved file when started working. > > However, after one day development activity with 6 workstations, now > we have 204 reserved files not deleted. I've noticed it's stated that > "Each session after two hours is automatically closed and all the > files are released." in above link, but seems it's not happening in > our environment. We have CentOS 5.5 x86 servers and run mfsmount on > Fedora 12 x64 workstations. Both servers and workstations run mfs > 1.6.19. And mfs is serving as home with read / write access. > > Here are some example of the reserved files by reading the metadata: > > 00067856|UserHome|tompan|.mozilla|firefox|mk9e32d7.default|OfflineCache|index.sqlite-journal > > 00067857|UserHome|tompan|.mozilla|firefox|mk9e32d7.default|OfflineCache|index.sqlite-journal > > > Most of the 204 reserved files look like temp / journal files. > > Any ideas about the cause of the issue? > > BTW, OpenOffice fails to start if MFS serves as home directory. It > should be a FS bug as stated on: > http://qa.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=113207. Would it be > related to the issue above? And can we fix this OOo issue? > > Many Thanks > Flow > > > > > > > |
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From: Flow J. <fl...@gm...> - 2011-03-01 16:05:56
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O.K. I think I lied in the last post. I changed all our configuration to use fstab mount the FS permanently and use "-fstype=bind" for AutoFS to link it to user home. But I still have more than 100 reserved files today, most of them look like temp files. (like .local|share|gvfs-metadata|home-8a63e833.log) The interesting thing is that we have nightly builds running on non-UserHome MooseFS mounted directory, which also creates / deletes temp files, but non of them gets reserved. So I suspect this might be caused by the way applications write file. So my question is that does any one has the similar issue when MooseFS is serving as home? Do you have reserved files remaining for a long time? And they will be deleted after 1 week, right? BTW, the "-fstype=bind" work around do fixes the Core Dump issue. Thanks Flow On 02/27/2011 01:20 AM, Flow Jiang wrote: > Hi, > > I now know how to re-create the issue and it should also be related to > AutoFS. > > I noticed that if I make a new file with non-zero size and delete it > immediately, it will be set as reserved file and keep at this state > for a while (about 1 minute in our environment). If the underlying > MooseFS is unmounted within this short period, the behavior differs > between fstab mounted FS and AufoFS mounted FS. > > * If the FS is mounted by fstab, create and delete a file, then > unmount the FS, the file eventually gets deleted > * If the FS is mounted by autofs, create and delete a file, then > unmount the FS, the file remains as reserved forever > > And unfortunately we are relying on the timeout feature of AutoFS so > unmount happens frequently. This is the reason we have so many cache > files (created then deleted during one mount session) remaining as > reserved files forever. > > Our AutoFS mount option is mentioned in the other thread > (http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?thread_name=4D68E18F.3000708%40gmail.com&forum_name=moosefs-users). > And the issue looks like the same: > > * If the FS is mounted by fstab, writing a file (> 1M) to some folder > then unmount it, works O.K. > * If the FS is mounted by autofs, writing a file (> 1M) to some folder > then unmount it, core file gets dumped > > Increasing autofs timeout would help for the reserved file issue but > not for the core dump issue. And even if the timeout is increased, a > restart / power off of the system still won't leave enough time for > the file to be totally deleted. > > I do have a work around to fix the 2 issues temporarily, by mounting > the entire MFS system with fstab and use "-fstype=bind" option in > autofs to make auto mounting/unmounting happen. But this is > complicated and different mfs mount options can't be set with > different subfolders. So I do hope I can have native AutoFS supported > MooseFS mounts. > > Can any one help on this? > > Many Thanks > Flow > > On 02/22/2011 12:03 AM, Flow Jiang wrote: >> Hi, >> >> Just found another issue. I cleared about 10000 reserved files with >> the script provided at >> http://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&aid=3104619&group_id=228631&atid=1075722 >> yesterday, and this morning I had 0 reserved file when started working. >> >> However, after one day development activity with 6 workstations, now >> we have 204 reserved files not deleted. I've noticed it's stated that >> "Each session after two hours is automatically closed and all the >> files are released." in above link, but seems it's not happening in >> our environment. We have CentOS 5.5 x86 servers and run mfsmount on >> Fedora 12 x64 workstations. Both servers and workstations run mfs >> 1.6.19. And mfs is serving as home with read / write access. >> >> Here are some example of the reserved files by reading the metadata: >> >> 00067856|UserHome|tompan|.mozilla|firefox|mk9e32d7.default|OfflineCache|index.sqlite-journal >> >> 00067857|UserHome|tompan|.mozilla|firefox|mk9e32d7.default|OfflineCache|index.sqlite-journal >> >> >> Most of the 204 reserved files look like temp / journal files. >> >> Any ideas about the cause of the issue? >> >> BTW, OpenOffice fails to start if MFS serves as home directory. It >> should be a FS bug as stated on: >> http://qa.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=113207. Would it be >> related to the issue above? And can we fix this OOo issue? >> >> Many Thanks >> Flow >> >> >> >> >> >> >> |
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From: Michal B. <mic...@ge...> - 2011-03-16 14:03:12
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Hi! We added a small change in 1.6.21, ie. while umounting, mfsmount will now send a "close session" command to the master. Such properly closed sessions would not be "hanging" throughout this 7-day period. Kind regards Michal -----Original Message----- From: Flow Jiang [mailto:fl...@gm...] Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2011 5:06 PM To: moo...@li... Subject: Re: [Moosefs-users] Reserved files remain forever O.K. I think I lied in the last post. I changed all our configuration to use fstab mount the FS permanently and use "-fstype=bind" for AutoFS to link it to user home. But I still have more than 100 reserved files today, most of them look like temp files. (like .local|share|gvfs-metadata|home-8a63e833.log) The interesting thing is that we have nightly builds running on non-UserHome MooseFS mounted directory, which also creates / deletes temp files, but non of them gets reserved. So I suspect this might be caused by the way applications write file. So my question is that does any one has the similar issue when MooseFS is serving as home? Do you have reserved files remaining for a long time? And they will be deleted after 1 week, right? BTW, the "-fstype=bind" work around do fixes the Core Dump issue. Thanks Flow On 02/27/2011 01:20 AM, Flow Jiang wrote: > Hi, > > I now know how to re-create the issue and it should also be related to > AutoFS. > > I noticed that if I make a new file with non-zero size and delete it > immediately, it will be set as reserved file and keep at this state > for a while (about 1 minute in our environment). If the underlying > MooseFS is unmounted within this short period, the behavior differs > between fstab mounted FS and AufoFS mounted FS. > > * If the FS is mounted by fstab, create and delete a file, then > unmount the FS, the file eventually gets deleted > * If the FS is mounted by autofs, create and delete a file, then > unmount the FS, the file remains as reserved forever > > And unfortunately we are relying on the timeout feature of AutoFS so > unmount happens frequently. This is the reason we have so many cache > files (created then deleted during one mount session) remaining as > reserved files forever. > > Our AutoFS mount option is mentioned in the other thread > (http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?thread_name=4D68E18F.3000708%4 0gmail.com&forum_name=moosefs-users). > And the issue looks like the same: > > * If the FS is mounted by fstab, writing a file (> 1M) to some folder > then unmount it, works O.K. > * If the FS is mounted by autofs, writing a file (> 1M) to some folder > then unmount it, core file gets dumped > > Increasing autofs timeout would help for the reserved file issue but > not for the core dump issue. And even if the timeout is increased, a > restart / power off of the system still won't leave enough time for > the file to be totally deleted. > > I do have a work around to fix the 2 issues temporarily, by mounting > the entire MFS system with fstab and use "-fstype=bind" option in > autofs to make auto mounting/unmounting happen. But this is > complicated and different mfs mount options can't be set with > different subfolders. So I do hope I can have native AutoFS supported > MooseFS mounts. > > Can any one help on this? > > Many Thanks > Flow > > On 02/22/2011 12:03 AM, Flow Jiang wrote: >> Hi, >> >> Just found another issue. I cleared about 10000 reserved files with >> the script provided at >> http://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&aid=3104619&group_id=228631&atid =1075722 >> yesterday, and this morning I had 0 reserved file when started working. >> >> However, after one day development activity with 6 workstations, now >> we have 204 reserved files not deleted. I've noticed it's stated that >> "Each session after two hours is automatically closed and all the >> files are released." in above link, but seems it's not happening in >> our environment. We have CentOS 5.5 x86 servers and run mfsmount on >> Fedora 12 x64 workstations. Both servers and workstations run mfs >> 1.6.19. And mfs is serving as home with read / write access. >> >> Here are some example of the reserved files by reading the metadata: >> >> 00067856|UserHome|tompan|.mozilla|firefox|mk9e32d7.default|OfflineCache|inde x.sqlite-journal >> >> 00067857|UserHome|tompan|.mozilla|firefox|mk9e32d7.default|OfflineCache|inde x.sqlite-journal >> >> >> Most of the 204 reserved files look like temp / journal files. >> >> Any ideas about the cause of the issue? >> >> BTW, OpenOffice fails to start if MFS serves as home directory. It >> should be a FS bug as stated on: >> http://qa.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=113207. Would it be >> related to the issue above? And can we fix this OOo issue? >> >> Many Thanks >> Flow >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- Free Software Download: Index, Search & Analyze Logs and other IT data in Real-Time with Splunk. Collect, index and harness all the fast moving IT data generated by your applications, servers and devices whether physical, virtual or in the cloud. Deliver compliance at lower cost and gain new business insights. http://p.sf.net/sfu/splunk-dev2dev _______________________________________________ moosefs-users mailing list moo...@li... https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/moosefs-users |
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From: Flow J. <fl...@gm...> - 2011-03-17 14:56:59
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Great! Looking forward to try MFS 1.6.21. Would it also work with lazy umount (umount -l)? Seems that AutoFS will use lazy umount under some circumstances like a forced shutdown / reboot, but I'm not so sure about this. Thanks Flow On 03/16/2011 10:02 PM, Michal Borychowski wrote: > Hi! > > We added a small change in 1.6.21, ie. while umounting, mfsmount will now > send a "close session" command to the master. Such properly closed sessions > would not be "hanging" throughout this 7-day period. > > > Kind regards > Michal > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Flow Jiang [mailto:fl...@gm...] > Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2011 5:06 PM > To: moo...@li... > Subject: Re: [Moosefs-users] Reserved files remain forever > > O.K. I think I lied in the last post. I changed all our configuration to > use fstab mount the FS permanently and use "-fstype=bind" for AutoFS to > link it to user home. But I still have more than 100 reserved files > today, most of them look like temp files. (like > .local|share|gvfs-metadata|home-8a63e833.log) > > The interesting thing is that we have nightly builds running on > non-UserHome MooseFS mounted directory, which also creates / deletes > temp files, but non of them gets reserved. So I suspect this might be > caused by the way applications write file. > > So my question is that does any one has the similar issue when MooseFS > is serving as home? Do you have reserved files remaining for a long > time? And they will be deleted after 1 week, right? > > BTW, the "-fstype=bind" work around do fixes the Core Dump issue. > > Thanks > Flow > > On 02/27/2011 01:20 AM, Flow Jiang wrote: >> Hi, >> >> I now know how to re-create the issue and it should also be related to >> AutoFS. >> >> I noticed that if I make a new file with non-zero size and delete it >> immediately, it will be set as reserved file and keep at this state >> for a while (about 1 minute in our environment). If the underlying >> MooseFS is unmounted within this short period, the behavior differs >> between fstab mounted FS and AufoFS mounted FS. >> >> * If the FS is mounted by fstab, create and delete a file, then >> unmount the FS, the file eventually gets deleted >> * If the FS is mounted by autofs, create and delete a file, then >> unmount the FS, the file remains as reserved forever >> >> And unfortunately we are relying on the timeout feature of AutoFS so >> unmount happens frequently. This is the reason we have so many cache >> files (created then deleted during one mount session) remaining as >> reserved files forever. >> >> Our AutoFS mount option is mentioned in the other thread >> > (http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?thread_name=4D68E18F.3000708%4 > 0gmail.com&forum_name=moosefs-users). >> And the issue looks like the same: >> >> * If the FS is mounted by fstab, writing a file (> 1M) to some folder >> then unmount it, works O.K. >> * If the FS is mounted by autofs, writing a file (> 1M) to some folder >> then unmount it, core file gets dumped >> >> Increasing autofs timeout would help for the reserved file issue but >> not for the core dump issue. And even if the timeout is increased, a >> restart / power off of the system still won't leave enough time for >> the file to be totally deleted. >> >> I do have a work around to fix the 2 issues temporarily, by mounting >> the entire MFS system with fstab and use "-fstype=bind" option in >> autofs to make auto mounting/unmounting happen. But this is >> complicated and different mfs mount options can't be set with >> different subfolders. So I do hope I can have native AutoFS supported >> MooseFS mounts. >> >> Can any one help on this? >> >> Many Thanks >> Flow >> >> On 02/22/2011 12:03 AM, Flow Jiang wrote: >>> Hi, >>> >>> Just found another issue. I cleared about 10000 reserved files with >>> the script provided at >>> > http://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&aid=3104619&group_id=228631&atid > =1075722 >>> yesterday, and this morning I had 0 reserved file when started working. >>> >>> However, after one day development activity with 6 workstations, now >>> we have 204 reserved files not deleted. I've noticed it's stated that >>> "Each session after two hours is automatically closed and all the >>> files are released." in above link, but seems it's not happening in >>> our environment. We have CentOS 5.5 x86 servers and run mfsmount on >>> Fedora 12 x64 workstations. Both servers and workstations run mfs >>> 1.6.19. And mfs is serving as home with read / write access. >>> >>> Here are some example of the reserved files by reading the metadata: >>> >>> > 00067856|UserHome|tompan|.mozilla|firefox|mk9e32d7.default|OfflineCache|inde > x.sqlite-journal >>> > 00067857|UserHome|tompan|.mozilla|firefox|mk9e32d7.default|OfflineCache|inde > x.sqlite-journal >>> >>> Most of the 204 reserved files look like temp / journal files. >>> >>> Any ideas about the cause of the issue? >>> >>> BTW, OpenOffice fails to start if MFS serves as home directory. It >>> should be a FS bug as stated on: >>> http://qa.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=113207. Would it be >>> related to the issue above? And can we fix this OOo issue? >>> >>> Many Thanks >>> Flow >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > -- > Free Software Download: Index, Search& Analyze Logs and other IT data in > Real-Time with Splunk. Collect, index and harness all the fast moving IT > data > generated by your applications, servers and devices whether physical, > virtual > or in the cloud. Deliver compliance at lower cost and gain new business > insights. http://p.sf.net/sfu/splunk-dev2dev > _______________________________________________ > moosefs-users mailing list > moo...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/moosefs-users > |
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From: Michal B. <mic...@ge...> - 2011-03-21 09:22:51
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Hi! Lazy umount should work with MooseFS (if the oparating system supports is). You just need to try it, eg.: "umount -l /mnt/mfs ; mfsmount /mnt/mfs" Regards Michal -----Original Message----- From: Flow Jiang [mailto:fl...@gm...] Sent: Thursday, March 17, 2011 3:57 PM To: Michal Borychowski Cc: moo...@li... Subject: Re: [Moosefs-users] Reserved files remain forever Great! Looking forward to try MFS 1.6.21. Would it also work with lazy umount (umount -l)? Seems that AutoFS will use lazy umount under some circumstances like a forced shutdown / reboot, but I'm not so sure about this. Thanks Flow On 03/16/2011 10:02 PM, Michal Borychowski wrote: > Hi! > > We added a small change in 1.6.21, ie. while umounting, mfsmount will now > send a "close session" command to the master. Such properly closed sessions > would not be "hanging" throughout this 7-day period. > > > Kind regards > Michal > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Flow Jiang [mailto:fl...@gm...] > Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2011 5:06 PM > To: moo...@li... > Subject: Re: [Moosefs-users] Reserved files remain forever > > O.K. I think I lied in the last post. I changed all our configuration to > use fstab mount the FS permanently and use "-fstype=bind" for AutoFS to > link it to user home. But I still have more than 100 reserved files > today, most of them look like temp files. (like > .local|share|gvfs-metadata|home-8a63e833.log) > > The interesting thing is that we have nightly builds running on > non-UserHome MooseFS mounted directory, which also creates / deletes > temp files, but non of them gets reserved. So I suspect this might be > caused by the way applications write file. > > So my question is that does any one has the similar issue when MooseFS > is serving as home? Do you have reserved files remaining for a long > time? And they will be deleted after 1 week, right? > > BTW, the "-fstype=bind" work around do fixes the Core Dump issue. > > Thanks > Flow > > On 02/27/2011 01:20 AM, Flow Jiang wrote: >> Hi, >> >> I now know how to re-create the issue and it should also be related to >> AutoFS. >> >> I noticed that if I make a new file with non-zero size and delete it >> immediately, it will be set as reserved file and keep at this state >> for a while (about 1 minute in our environment). If the underlying >> MooseFS is unmounted within this short period, the behavior differs >> between fstab mounted FS and AufoFS mounted FS. >> >> * If the FS is mounted by fstab, create and delete a file, then >> unmount the FS, the file eventually gets deleted >> * If the FS is mounted by autofs, create and delete a file, then >> unmount the FS, the file remains as reserved forever >> >> And unfortunately we are relying on the timeout feature of AutoFS so >> unmount happens frequently. This is the reason we have so many cache >> files (created then deleted during one mount session) remaining as >> reserved files forever. >> >> Our AutoFS mount option is mentioned in the other thread >> > (http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?thread_name=4D68E18F.3000708%4 > 0gmail.com&forum_name=moosefs-users). >> And the issue looks like the same: >> >> * If the FS is mounted by fstab, writing a file (> 1M) to some folder >> then unmount it, works O.K. >> * If the FS is mounted by autofs, writing a file (> 1M) to some folder >> then unmount it, core file gets dumped >> >> Increasing autofs timeout would help for the reserved file issue but >> not for the core dump issue. And even if the timeout is increased, a >> restart / power off of the system still won't leave enough time for >> the file to be totally deleted. >> >> I do have a work around to fix the 2 issues temporarily, by mounting >> the entire MFS system with fstab and use "-fstype=bind" option in >> autofs to make auto mounting/unmounting happen. But this is >> complicated and different mfs mount options can't be set with >> different subfolders. So I do hope I can have native AutoFS supported >> MooseFS mounts. >> >> Can any one help on this? >> >> Many Thanks >> Flow >> >> On 02/22/2011 12:03 AM, Flow Jiang wrote: >>> Hi, >>> >>> Just found another issue. I cleared about 10000 reserved files with >>> the script provided at >>> > http://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&aid=3104619&group_id=228631&atid > =1075722 >>> yesterday, and this morning I had 0 reserved file when started working. >>> >>> However, after one day development activity with 6 workstations, now >>> we have 204 reserved files not deleted. I've noticed it's stated that >>> "Each session after two hours is automatically closed and all the >>> files are released." in above link, but seems it's not happening in >>> our environment. We have CentOS 5.5 x86 servers and run mfsmount on >>> Fedora 12 x64 workstations. Both servers and workstations run mfs >>> 1.6.19. And mfs is serving as home with read / write access. >>> >>> Here are some example of the reserved files by reading the metadata: >>> >>> > 00067856|UserHome|tompan|.mozilla|firefox|mk9e32d7.default|OfflineCache|inde > x.sqlite-journal >>> > 00067857|UserHome|tompan|.mozilla|firefox|mk9e32d7.default|OfflineCache|inde > x.sqlite-journal >>> >>> Most of the 204 reserved files look like temp / journal files. >>> >>> Any ideas about the cause of the issue? >>> >>> BTW, OpenOffice fails to start if MFS serves as home directory. It >>> should be a FS bug as stated on: >>> http://qa.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=113207. Would it be >>> related to the issue above? And can we fix this OOo issue? >>> >>> Many Thanks >>> Flow >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > -- > Free Software Download: Index, Search& Analyze Logs and other IT data in > Real-Time with Splunk. Collect, index and harness all the fast moving IT > data > generated by your applications, servers and devices whether physical, > virtual > or in the cloud. Deliver compliance at lower cost and gain new business > insights. http://p.sf.net/sfu/splunk-dev2dev > _______________________________________________ > moosefs-users mailing list > moo...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/moosefs-users > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- Colocation vs. Managed Hosting A question and answer guide to determining the best fit for your organization - today and in the future. http://p.sf.net/sfu/internap-sfd2d _______________________________________________ moosefs-users mailing list moo...@li... https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/moosefs-users |
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