From: Scott D. <sd...@cl...> - 2012-04-20 17:43:44
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Currently, neither mfschunkserver nor mfsmount work when using IPv6 addresses or host names which resolve only to IPv6 addresses. Are there any plans to implement IPv6 support in MooseFS? Our university will soon be requiring new software purchases to support IPv6, and while MooseFS is free and likely won't be restricted by this rule, IPv6 support is still probably a good thing to have. Scott Duckworth, Systems Programmer II Clemson University School of Computing AIM/Skype: ClemsonUnixDuck |
From: Michał B. <mic...@co...> - 2012-04-20 18:41:44
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You can have a look here at our list archive: http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?thread_name=4DDB66C6.8060906%40 coppint.com <http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?thread_name=4DDB66C6.8060906%4 0coppint.com&forum_name=moosefs-users> &forum_name=moosefs-users For the moment we do not plan to introduce it - somebody needs to convince us MooseFS really needs this :) Kind regards Michał Borychowski MooseFS Support Manager From: Scott Duckworth [mailto:sd...@cl...] Sent: Friday, April 20, 2012 7:44 PM To: moo...@li... Subject: [Moosefs-users] IPv6 support Currently, neither mfschunkserver nor mfsmount work when using IPv6 addresses or host names which resolve only to IPv6 addresses. Are there any plans to implement IPv6 support in MooseFS? Our university will soon be requiring new software purchases to support IPv6, and while MooseFS is free and likely won't be restricted by this rule, IPv6 support is still probably a good thing to have. Scott Duckworth, Systems Programmer II Clemson University School of Computing AIM/Skype: ClemsonUnixDuck |
From: Scott D. <sd...@cl...> - 2012-04-20 19:38:04
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IPv6 is coming whether we want it or not. Here's some evidence: - Many parts of the world have exhausted their IPv4 address blocks, meaning you can only get new IPv4 addresses if they are already allocated to you or from IPv4 scavengers [ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IPv4_address_exhaustion] - The World IPv6 Launch Day is June 6, 2012: on this day many major ISPs, networking equipment manufacturers, and web companies around the world are permanently enabling IPv6 [http://www.worldipv6launch.org/] - It's already in wide use in China [ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/China_Next_Generation_Internet] - All US government agencies will be required to use IPv6 for all public facing services by September 30, 2012 and all internal services in 2014 [ http://www.networkworld.com/news/2010/092810-white-house-ipv6-directive.html ] - At least one public university will soon be requiring that all new application deployments support IPv6 to the same level that they support IPv4 [http://www.clemson.edu/ccit/get_connected/ipv6.html] Dual-stack IPv4 & IPv6 environments are meant to be a transitional stage. Existing services on IPv4 have no reason to drop their IPv4 addresses but it will become harder and harder to acquire IPv4 addresses for new services. With major corporations and governments already pushing hard on IPv6, it will quickly pick up momentum. Services that do not support IPv6 will be superseded by those that do. Why not take the chance to implement IPv6 support while it's still mostly in the transitional phase rather than waiting until it's in the required stage? Scott Duckworth, Systems Programmer II Clemson University School of Computing AIM/Skype: ClemsonUnixDuck 2012/4/20 Michał Borychowski <mic...@co...> > You can have a look here at our list archive:**** > > > http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?thread_name=4DDB66C6.8060906%40coppint.com&forum_name=moosefs-users > **** > > ** ** > > For the moment we do not plan to introduce it - somebody needs to convince > us MooseFS really needs this :)**** > > ** ** > > ** ** > > Kind regards**** > > Michał Borychowski **** > > MooseFS Support Manager**** > > ** ** > > *From:* Scott Duckworth [mailto:sd...@cl...] > *Sent:* Friday, April 20, 2012 7:44 PM > *To:* moo...@li... > *Subject:* [Moosefs-users] IPv6 support**** > > ** ** > > Currently, neither mfschunkserver nor mfsmount work when using IPv6 > addresses or host names which resolve only to IPv6 addresses. Are there > any plans to implement IPv6 support in MooseFS?**** > > ** ** > > Our university will soon be requiring new software purchases to support > IPv6, and while MooseFS is free and likely won't be restricted by this > rule, IPv6 support is still probably a good thing to have.**** > > > Scott Duckworth, Systems Programmer II > Clemson University School of Computing > AIM/Skype: ClemsonUnixDuck**** > |
From: Fabien G. <fab...@gm...> - 2012-04-21 10:18:30
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Hi Scott, hi list ! 2012/4/20 Scott Duckworth <sd...@cl...>: > IPv6 is coming whether we want it or not. Here's some evidence: I agree with your arguments, and that IPv6 is a need in MooseFS. But just one question : > Many parts of the world have exhausted their IPv4 address blocks, meaning > you can only get new IPv4 addresses if they are already allocated to you or > from IPv4 scavengers [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IPv4_address_exhaustion] Why would someone use *public* IPv4 addresses on chunkservers ??? In our case, we use private IP on a dedicated VLAN for all the cluster, and several clients have a public IP (to "export" the data), and a private IP in the MooseFS VLAN. Fabien |
From: Scott D. <sd...@cl...> - 2012-04-23 15:51:31
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On Sat, Apr 21, 2012 at 6:17 AM, Fabien Germain <fab...@gm...>wrote: > Hi Scott, hi list ! > > 2012/4/20 Scott Duckworth <sd...@cl...>: > > IPv6 is coming whether we want it or not. Here's some evidence: > > I agree with your arguments, and that IPv6 is a need in MooseFS. But > just one question : > > > Many parts of the world have exhausted their IPv4 address blocks, meaning > > you can only get new IPv4 addresses if they are already allocated to you > or > > from IPv4 scavengers [ > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IPv4_address_exhaustion] > > Why would someone use *public* IPv4 addresses on chunkservers ??? In > our case, we use private IP on a dedicated VLAN for all the cluster, > and several clients have a public IP (to "export" the data), and a > private IP in the MooseFS VLAN. > If somebody wanted to use MooseFS over a WAN, I'm assuming that the chunkservers and master server would need to be reachable from each other and from the clients. This could either be accomplished with a VPN using private IP addresses or directly over the Internet using public IP addresses (hopefully encrypted with IPsec). This would be the case with either IPv4 or IPv6, only that IPv6 doesn't exactly have private address ranges. Regardless of where MooseFS is being used, LAN or WAN, IPv6 will eventually become a consideration. Even though it is WAN that is driving IPv6, I expect it will eventually overcome IPv4 even for internal network traffic. If network administrators are going to have to support IPv6 anyways, why also support IPv4 once everything is reachable via IPv6? At that point IPv4 is just that old rusty protocol that we used to have to use which is now getting in the way. Anybody remember IPX/SPX? [ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IPX/SPX] |