Re: [Moose-g3-devel] GENESIS development sites and mailing lists

[Josef S. <js...@ya...>]

--- Dave Beeman <db...@do...> wrote:

> This makes it clear the the repository and development site for MOOSE must
> stay where it is.  At some point, we might want to split the G3
> development site off from that for MOOSE, but that seems awfully premature
> to me.  I think that any split should come when we have a public release
> of something (with a GUI) that we can honestly call GENESIS 3.  At
> present, GENESIS 3 is nothing more than the MOOSE core.
> 
> As Upi and Greg have made clear, there is a lot more yet to be done in the
> way of MOOSE core code development.  I think it would hurt collaboration,
> rather than foster it, to separate the GENESIS 3 site from that of MOOSE at
> this early stage.

My (twenty-)two cents:

What you call it IS important (see
http://producingoss.com/html-chunk/index.html), but saying there's nothing to
release is inaccurate. I suspect Upi has already been doing real science with
Moose. Dieter may argue that putting some sort of GUI on what's already there
is really just icing (fluff?). Certainly the SLI interface to Moose must
qualify as something you'd consider calling Genesis?

There hasn't really been any feedback on my view of the Big Picture:

1. Moose - core library. Savvy users can put whatever front end on it they
wish, using swig interface. Does NOT provide a front end, even a command line.
It's a library.

2. Genesis3 - provide all the groovy front ends that Jim wants and the nasty
back end that we're stuck with (SLI).

This provides some clear boundaries. Cohesion. Focus. 

The age of the monolithic software app is dead (Thank Crom!), so we should try
to get with the program - at this early stage (actually 3 years ago). So, rip
the SLI back out of Moose and make it communicate through the swig interface.
Easier said than done, but done it must be.

There are obviously a lot of other areas that need to be addressed and
relagated to the right project.


> But, we do need a wiki installed on the moose-g3
> Sourceforge site.  Michael, can you work on this?

There's already one there - working. Just have to figure out what we want to
put under it. http://moose-g3.sourceforge.net/phpwiki/index.php

joe

js...@ya...
Software Engineer
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