#338 Explanation of open and save protocol

1.0_and_below
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Nikolay
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2014-06-25
2014-03-15
No

I've recently become confused about which is the current file for my mmex. Every time I open the application, it loads a file and then seems to add to the name and save it under a new name? My "current" version is "EOB2014.mmb_start_2014-01-24.mmb_start_2014-02-11.mmb_start_2014-03-14.mmb"! Can you refer me to an explanation of this procedure, and how I might just work on one file all the time? It gets saved to a backup, so I don't really need these multiple files. I currently have about 6 MB of these variously names files!
Eleanor

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  • guanlisheng

    guanlisheng - 2014-03-16
     
  • guanlisheng

    guanlisheng - 2014-03-16

    please upgrade to latest stable version.

     
  • Eleanor Batchelder

    I am running OSX 10.6.8 -- won't let me use mmex 1.0.0.2 -- what is the latest stable version I can use, and do you think it will fix my naming problem?
    Thanks, Eleanor

     
    • guanlisheng

      guanlisheng - 2014-03-16

      Basically, you should tell us what MMEX version you are using. however you can stop the backup process easily.

       
  • Eleanor Batchelder

    Sorry! I'm currently using 0.9.9.0
    Is there any later version that will run under 10.6.8?

    By "the backup process" do you mean this file renaming process? If so, please tell me how to stop it.

    Thanks, Eleanor

     
  • guanlisheng

    guanlisheng - 2014-03-16

    v1.0.0.2 should work on 10.6.8.
    MMEX-->Options-->Others-->Database Backup.

    Would you mind to do minor donation to this project if you think it helps for you?
    https://sourceforge.net/p/moneymanagerex/donate/

     
  • Eleanor Batchelder

    I don't see MMEX-> Options. I can do MMEX->Preferences->Database, and I see I can turn off both of these backup options, which I'll do.

    Re 1.0.0.2 "should work: -- A Mac message pops up when I try to launch it: "The application requires Mac OS X 10.8 or later." Is this requirement coming from the MMEX application itself? If not, how does my system know this?

     
  • guanlisheng

    guanlisheng - 2014-03-16

    In this case, please upgrade your Mac OS X.

     
  • Nikolay

    Nikolay - 2014-03-16

    Hi Eleanor,

    I'll try to explain how mmex backup working.
    For example, test.mmb is DB. If tools-->Options-->Others-->Database Backup->Create a new backup when MMEX start check box is on and mmex started the test.mmb_start_yyyy_mm_dd.mmb file will be created as copy of test.mmb file.
    No ideas how to open it in next mmex start but if started new backup file will be created like: test.mmb_start_yyyy_mm_dd.mmb_start_yyyy_mm_dd.mmb

     
  • Eleanor Batchelder

    Thanks! Can you tell me if there is any version of MMEX after 0.9.9.0 that supports Mac OSX 10.6? Is the operating system for each level stated anywhere (besides inside the upgrade, apparently...). Eleanor

     
  • Eleanor Batchelder

    By the way, Nikolay, the path tools-->Options... does not seem to exist in version 0.9.9.0 ! Eleanor

     
  • Nikolay

    Nikolay - 2014-03-16

    Unfortunately I have no MAC based hardware.
    Could you please ask on a forum if somebody has success with OSX 10.6?
    http://www.codelathe.com/forum/

     
  • Nikolay

    Nikolay - 2014-03-16

    Could you, please, provide, screenshot of your app? Not sure if it's MMEX.

     
    • Eleanor Batchelder

      On 2014-03-16, at 1:46 PM, Nikolay wrote:

      Could you, please, provide, screenshot of your app? Not sure if it's MMEX.

      [bugs:#338] Explanation of open and save protocol

      Status: open
      Group: 1.0_and_below
      Created: Sat Mar 15, 2014 01:33 AM UTC by Eleanor Batchelder
      Last Updated: Sun Mar 16, 2014 05:42 PM UTC
      Owner: nobody

      I've recently become confused about which is the current file for my mmex. Every time I open the application, it loads a file and then seems to add to the name and save it under a new name? My "current" version is "EOB2014.mmb_start_2014-01-24.mmb_start_2014-02-11.mmb_start_2014-03-14.mmb"! Can you refer me to an explanation of this procedure, and how I might just work on one file all the time? It gets saved to a backup, so I don't really need these multiple files. I currently have about 6 MB of these variously names files!
      Eleanor

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  • Nikolay

    Nikolay - 2014-03-16
     
    • Eleanor Batchelder

      What??? You advertise that this program works on Macs — are you telling me there is no one in your organization that I can deal with about mac?

      Eleanor

      On 2014-03-16, at 1:56 PM, Nikolay wrote:

      I suggest tobuild mmex from scratch
      https://sourceforge.net/p/moneymanagerex/wiki/Build%20Instructions%20for%20Mac%20OS%20X/

      [bugs:#338] Explanation of open and save protocol

      Status: open
      Group: 1.0_and_below
      Created: Sat Mar 15, 2014 01:33 AM UTC by Eleanor Batchelder
      Last Updated: Sun Mar 16, 2014 05:46 PM UTC
      Owner: nobody

      I've recently become confused about which is the current file for my mmex. Every time I open the application, it loads a file and then seems to add to the name and save it under a new name? My "current" version is "EOB2014.mmb_start_2014-01-24.mmb_start_2014-02-11.mmb_start_2014-03-14.mmb"! Can you refer me to an explanation of this procedure, and how I might just work on one file all the time? It gets saved to a backup, so I don't really need these multiple files. I currently have about 6 MB of these variously names files!
      Eleanor

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      • guanlisheng

        guanlisheng - 2014-03-17

        Thanks for your donation but currently we have no Mac Book running os x 10.6.8 since it is too old.

         
  • Nikolay

    Nikolay - 2014-03-16

    Sorry, we are not organization but 4 independent developers. I support Windows 7 and Ubuntu Linux.
    MMEX should work on OSX 10.6 but to build and test it we need OSX 10.6.
    Sorry, wiki page seems incomplite but it can be updated and using your OS it possible to build mmex binary for all OSX 10.6 users.

     
  • Eleanor Batchelder

    Since there is a new Mac version of MMEX on your website that has been specified internally as 10.8 or higher (and thus won't even launch on my 10.6 system), there must be someone there who works with Macs. That person must know if you have any version after 0.9.9.0 that works with Mac 10.6. Can I communicate with that person?

     
  • Eleanor Batchelder

    I have been using MMEX 0.9.9.0 for two years and have been very happy with it. But I am distressed to learn that you refuse to support Mac users -- what does this bode for the future?
    Eleanor

     
    • Anonymous - 2014-03-17

      what's your personal email? i will loop more guys via email.

       
  • Pat O

    Pat O - 2014-03-17

    Hi Eleanor,

    I am the one who maintains the Mac builds. Currently, the version you are using is the most recent that will work on X.6.8. It may be possible to make a mac build of the most recent version for X.6.8, but unfortunately due to limited developer time and the age of the OS you are using, it is unlikely that I will be able to work on it until the summer. Like others on the team, I am a volunteer and have a full time job. In my case I am a college professor so have very limited free time to work on MMEX during the semester.

    Regarding the Options menu, you are correct that it should be under MMEX>Preferences in the Mac version since that is typically where Mac users find such things. It will be in a different place on Linux and Windows, so I hope that clears up the confusion.

    If you have turned off the automatic backups, does that solve your problem? If you have Time Machine (or some other backup software) running on your mac, having MMEX do additional backups is not really necessary anyway. You might consider using spotlight in Finder to find the most recent .mmb file you have used and rename it to EOB.mmb (or whatever you would like to call it). Then, from within MMEX, open that database. I hope this will fix your issue. Please let me know if any of this is unclear of you have any trouble.

    Pat

     
    • Eleanor Batchelder

      Oh, thank you for contacting me! I was going crazy with people who seem to pretend the Mac doesn't even exist!

      I am really fine with 0.9.9.0 - it's worked very well for me. I didn't even know there were updates until I had this naming problem and went to the MMEX website for help. There I saw many newer versions and of course thought I should get the latest. There is no information there about Mac OS compatibilities, so I was startled when 1.0.0.2 wouldn't even launch for anything under 10.8! They really should give more details on the website…

      And then for the naming problem, they said get latest stable version and were incredibly unhelpful about the launch difficulty. (I was even asked for a screenshot to prove that I really was talking about mmex and not some other application!)

      Now perhaps you have inadvertently answered my latest question, which is why when I drop a mmb file on the app icon (in the dock), it still opens the last one it saw. After seeing your comment (open from within) and trying, I see that a) if I open from within, I get the actual file I name, and b) opening from within has to be done "over" another open file, which (I assume) is then closed and the requested one opened in its place.

      So, I'm now fine and will proceed as usual. Thank you again for existing, and for emailing me. If you could "macify" the website a bit (and maybe even the other guys), I'd be very appreciative! I really love the program and would like to be able to recommend it to other Mac folk.

      Eleanor Batchelder
      Toronto

      On 2014-03-17, at 12:41 PM, Pat O wrote:

      Hi Eleanor,

      I am the one who maintains the Mac builds. Currently, the version you are using is the most recent that will work on X.6.8. It may be possible to make a mac build of the most recent version for X.6.8, but unfortunately due to limited developer time and the age of the OS you are using, it is unlikely that I will be able to work on it until the summer. Like others on the team, I am a volunteer and have a full time job. In my case I am a college professor so have very limited free time to work on MMEX during the semester.

      Regarding the Options menu, you are correct that it should be under MMEX>Preferences in the Mac version since that is typically where Mac users find such things. It will be in a different place on Linux and Windows, so I hope that clears up the confusion.

      If you have turned off the automatic backups, does that solve your problem? If you have Time Machine (or some other backup software) running on your mac, having MMEX do additional backups is not really necessary anyway. You might consider using spotlight in Finder to find the most recent .mmb file you have used and rename it to EOB.mmb (or whatever you would like to call it). Then, from within MMEX, open that database. I hope this will fix your issue. Please let me know if any of this is unclear of you have any trouble.

      Pat

      [bugs:#338] Explanation of open and save protocol

      Status: open
      Group: 1.0_and_below
      Created: Sat Mar 15, 2014 01:33 AM UTC by Eleanor Batchelder
      Last Updated: Mon Mar 17, 2014 12:03 PM UTC
      Owner: nobody

      I've recently become confused about which is the current file for my mmex. Every time I open the application, it loads a file and then seems to add to the name and save it under a new name? My "current" version is "EOB2014.mmb_start_2014-01-24.mmb_start_2014-02-11.mmb_start_2014-03-14.mmb"! Can you refer me to an explanation of this procedure, and how I might just work on one file all the time? It gets saved to a backup, so I don't really need these multiple files. I currently have about 6 MB of these variously names files!
      Eleanor

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      • guanlisheng

        guanlisheng - 2014-03-17

        misunderstanding here since i am using mac book pro years and it is running
        mac os x 10.9 now. we just don't have 10.6.x mac machine.

        --Lisheng
        2014年3月18日 上午1:01于 "Eleanor Batchelder" eleanorba@users.sf.net写道:

        Oh, thank you for contacting me! I was going crazy with people who seem
        to pretend the Mac doesn't even exist!

        I am really fine with 0.9.9.0 - it's worked very well for me. I didn't
        even know there were updates until I had this naming problem and went to
        the MMEX website for help. There I saw many newer versions and of course
        thought I should get the latest. There is no information there about Mac
        OS compatibilities, so I was startled when 1.0.0.2 wouldn't even launch for
        anything under 10.8! They really should give more details on the website…

        And then for the naming problem, they said get latest stable version and
        were incredibly unhelpful about the launch difficulty. (I was even asked
        for a screenshot to prove that I really was talking about mmex and not some
        other application!)

        Now perhaps you have inadvertently answered my latest question, which is
        why when I drop a mmb file on the app icon (in the dock), it still opens
        the last one it saw. After seeing your comment (open from within) and
        trying, I see that a) if I open from within, I get the actual file I name,
        and b) opening from within has to be done "over" another open file, which
        (I assume) is then closed and the requested one opened in its place.

        So, I'm now fine and will proceed as usual. Thank you again for existing,
        and for emailing me. If you could "macify" the website a bit (and maybe
        even the other guys), I'd be very appreciative! I really love the program
        and would like to be able to recommend it to other Mac folk.

        Eleanor Batchelder
        Toronto

        On 2014-03-17, at 12:41 PM, Pat O wrote:

        Hi Eleanor,

        I am the one who maintains the Mac builds. Currently, the version you
        are using is the most recent that will work on X.6.8. It may be possible to
        make a mac build of the most recent version for X.6.8, but unfortunately
        due to limited developer time and the age of the OS you are using, it is
        unlikely that I will be able to work on it until the summer. Like others on
        the team, I am a volunteer and have a full time job. In my case I am a
        college professor so have very limited free time to work on MMEX during the
        semester.

        Regarding the Options menu, you are correct that it should be under
        MMEX>Preferences in the Mac version since that is typically where Mac users
        find such things. It will be in a different place on Linux and Windows, so
        I hope that clears up the confusion.

        If you have turned off the automatic backups, does that solve your
        problem? If you have Time Machine (or some other backup software) running
        on your mac, having MMEX do additional backups is not really necessary
        anyway. You might consider using spotlight in Finder to find the most
        recent .mmb file you have used and rename it to EOB.mmb (or whatever you
        would like to call it). Then, from within MMEX, open that database. I hope
        this will fix your issue. Please let me know if any of this is unclear of
        you have any trouble.

        Pat

        [bugs:#338] Explanation of open and save protocol

        Status: open
        Group: 1.0_and_below
        Created: Sat Mar 15, 2014 01:33 AM UTC by Eleanor Batchelder
        Last Updated: Mon Mar 17, 2014 12:03 PM UTC
        Owner: nobody

        I've recently become confused about which is the current file for my
        mmex. Every time I open the application, it loads a file and then seems to
        add to the name and save it under a new name? My "current" version is
        "EOB2014.mmb_start_2014-01-24.mmb_start_2014-02-11.mmb_start_2014-03-14.mmb"!
        Can you refer me to an explanation of this procedure, and how I might just
        work on one file all the time? It gets saved to a backup, so I don't really
        need these multiple files. I currently have about 6 MB of these variously
        names files!
        Eleanor

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        [bugs:#338] Explanation of open and save protocol

        Status: open
        Group: 1.0_and_below
        Created: Sat Mar 15, 2014 01:33 AM UTC by Eleanor Batchelder
        Last Updated: Mon Mar 17, 2014 04:41 PM UTC
        Owner: nobody

        I've recently become confused about which is the current file for my mmex.
        Every time I open the application, it loads a file and then seems to add
        to the name and save it under a new name? My "current" version is
        "EOB2014.mmb_start_2014-01-24.mmb_start_2014-02-11.mmb_start_2014-03-14.mmb"!
        Can you refer me to an explanation of this procedure, and how I might just
        work on one file all the time? It gets saved to a backup, so I don't
        really need these multiple files. I currently have about 6 MB of these
        variously names files!
        Eleanor


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        • Eleanor Batchelder

          Okay, I unjustly maligned you. But I think you should not just tell people
          to "upgrade!" You don't know their situation. Older computers are not
          recommended for newer systems, they become slow. I'd have to buy a new
          computer, and then some software I rely on would not run. You also should
          not suggest that we "build" a new version! If it could be done, I assume
          you would already have done it! And I don't have the time or knowledge to
          build something - that's why I use ready-to-go programs. The whole
          impression you gave to me (you and others there) is that you don't have
          time to waste on Macs. Your website doesn't have information about Mac
          systems that don't run your versions. And I had a hard time finding any
          discussions about mac on your website. I am glad that someone finally
          referred me to Pat. -- Eleanor

          On Mon, Mar 17, 2014 at 7:50 PM, guanlisheng guanlisheng@users.sf.netwrote:

          misunderstanding here since i am using mac book pro years and it is running
          mac os x 10.9 now. we just don't have 10.6.x mac machine.

          --Lisheng
          2014年3月18日 上午1:01于 "Eleanor Batchelder" eleanorba@users.sf.net写道:

          Oh, thank you for contacting me! I was going crazy with people who seem
          to pretend the Mac doesn't even exist!

          I am really fine with 0.9.9.0 - it's worked very well for me. I didn't
          even know there were updates until I had this naming problem and went to
          the MMEX website for help. There I saw many newer versions and of course
          thought I should get the latest. There is no information there about Mac
          OS compatibilities, so I was startled when 1.0.0.2 wouldn't even launch for
          anything under 10.8! They really should give more details on the website…

          And then for the naming problem, they said get latest stable version and
          were incredibly unhelpful about the launch difficulty. (I was even asked
          for a screenshot to prove that I really was talking about mmex and not some
          other application!)

          Now perhaps you have inadvertently answered my latest question, which is
          why when I drop a mmb file on the app icon (in the dock), it still opens
          the last one it saw. After seeing your comment (open from within) and
          trying, I see that a) if I open from within, I get the actual file I name,
          and b) opening from within has to be done "over" another open file, which
          (I assume) is then closed and the requested one opened in its place.

          So, I'm now fine and will proceed as usual. Thank you again for existing,
          and for emailing me. If you could "macify" the website a bit (and maybe
          even the other guys), I'd be very appreciative! I really love the program
          and would like to be able to recommend it to other Mac folk.

          Eleanor Batchelder
          Toronto

          On 2014-03-17, at 12:41 PM, Pat O wrote:

          Hi Eleanor,

          I am the one who maintains the Mac builds. Currently, the version you
          are using is the most recent that will work on X.6.8. It may be possible to
          make a mac build of the most recent version for X.6.8, but unfortunately
          due to limited developer time and the age of the OS you are using, it is
          unlikely that I will be able to work on it until the summer. Like others on
          the team, I am a volunteer and have a full time job. In my case I am a
          college professor so have very limited free time to work on MMEX during the
          semester.

          Regarding the Options menu, you are correct that it should be under
          MMEX>Preferences in the Mac version since that is typically where Mac users
          find such things. It will be in a different place on Linux and Windows, so
          I hope that clears up the confusion.

          If you have turned off the automatic backups, does that solve your
          problem? If you have Time Machine (or some other backup software) running
          on your mac, having MMEX do additional backups is not really necessary
          anyway. You might consider using spotlight in Finder to find the most
          recent .mmb file you have used and rename it to EOB.mmb (or whatever you
          would like to call it). Then, from within MMEX, open that database. I hope
          this will fix your issue. Please let me know if any of this is unclear of
          you have any trouble.

          Pat

          [bugs:#338] http://sourceforge.net/p/moneymanagerex/bugs/338/Explanation of open and save protocol

          Status: open
          Group: 1.0_and_below
          Created: Sat Mar 15, 2014 01:33 AM UTC by Eleanor Batchelder
          Last Updated: Mon Mar 17, 2014 12:03 PM UTC
          Owner: nobody

          I've recently become confused about which is the current file for my
          mmex. Every time I open the application, it loads a file and then seems to
          add to the name and save it under a new name? My "current" version is

          "EOB2014.mmb_start_2014-01-24.mmb_start_2014-02-11.mmb_start_2014-03-14.mmb"!
          Can you refer me to an explanation of this procedure, and how I might just
          work on one file all the time? It gets saved to a backup, so I don't really
          need these multiple files. I currently have about 6 MB of these variously
          names files!
          Eleanor

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          Status: open
          Group: 1.0_and_below
          Created: Sat Mar 15, 2014 01:33 AM UTC by Eleanor Batchelder
          Last Updated: Mon Mar 17, 2014 04:41 PM UTC
          Owner: nobody

          I've recently become confused about which is the current file for my mmex.
          Every time I open the application, it loads a file and then seems to add
          to the name and save it under a new name? My "current" version is

          "EOB2014.mmb_start_2014-01-24.mmb_start_2014-02-11.mmb_start_2014-03-14.mmb"!
          Can you refer me to an explanation of this procedure, and how I might just
          work on one file all the time? It gets saved to a backup, so I don't
          really need these multiple files. I currently have about 6 MB of these
          variously names files!
          Eleanor


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          Status: open
          Group: 1.0_and_below
          Created: Sat Mar 15, 2014 01:33 AM UTC by Eleanor Batchelder
          Last Updated: Mon Mar 17, 2014 04:41 PM UTC
          Owner: nobody

          I've recently become confused about which is the current file for my mmex.
          Every time I open the application, it loads a file and then seems to add to
          the name and save it under a new name? My "current" version is
          "EOB2014.mmb_start_2014-01-24.mmb_start_2014-02-11.mmb_start_2014-03-14.mmb"!
          Can you refer me to an explanation of this procedure, and how I might just
          work on one file all the time? It gets saved to a backup, so I don't really
          need these multiple files. I currently have about 6 MB of these variously
          names files!
          Eleanor


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