Hi Paul,
All right, I meant the base vs specific module file behaviour when using switch. And we use the base version only.
Okay, there are some drawbacks. But I think in our case we really want to load the default version.
Our use case a bit bizarre. 😉
Basically what we want is to ‘semi-recover’ from a situation where only PATH is messed up (without going into details).
So we just load the system default modules again to have at least a good enough environment.
Best regards,
Danny
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Subject: Re: [Modules] "module load" compatibility
Mine was just an example (the module I was using to test is actually call base/dot - it adds ". " to the path, at the end. base is a folder, and dot is the name of a module file in that folder). If you are loading a specific module file, I don't
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Mine was just an example (the module I was using to test is actually call base/dot - it adds "." to the path, at the end. base is a folder, and dot is the name of a module file in that folder).
If you are loading a specific module file, I don't foresee a problem.
If base is a folder with multiple modules under it, then this could end up unloading another module under base (if the default module isn't already loaded).
On 4/21/2023 9:47 AM, Danny Sternkopf wrote:
> Hi Paul,
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> Thank you for the advices!
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> As we’re just using the base module for loading I tested
> ‘module switch base base’
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> and it seems to work (module gets reloaded incl dependencies even if loaded already). This is what we want.
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> Do you see any problem with it in comparison to the dot version ‘ module switch base/dot base/dot’ you recommended?
> Any other drawbacks?
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> Best regards,
> Danny
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> I suggest (if you can) that you update to: Modules Release 5. 2. 0 (2022-11-08) (has the same issue, but has many improvements and corrections). Try using "module switch" instead of module load. Note, you can only load one module with module
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> I suggest (if you can) that you update to: Modules Release 5.2.0 (2022-11-08)
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> (has the same issue, but has many improvements and corrections).
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> Try using "module switch" instead of module load.
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> Note, you can only load one module with module switch.
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> There are some issues with this.
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> If the module you are loading is not loaded, and is the same base path as another loaded module, module switch will unload that other module.
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> A way around this is to specify the same module for modulefile1 and modulefile2 (rather than leave modulefile1 unspecified).
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> As in:
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> module switch base/dot base/dot
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> However, you should see the previous post about "module load" behavior.
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> This behavior change from the old 3.2.10 binary version to the TCL source version caused me some headaches when I first switched (some years ago).
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> I changed some of my shell initialization module loads to module source (supported with-out full module paths in 5.2.0), as I needed them to be processed every time the shell initialization script ran (advantage: sourced modules can't be unloaded). For instance, when I want to load a module to define shell aliases (which aren't inherited by the shell).
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> On 4/21/2023 3:54 AM, Jens-Olaf Beismann wrote:
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