Thread: 0.28 release date? (was Re: [Module::Build] Recursive builds?)

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0.28 release date? (was Re: [Module::Build] Recursive builds?)

From: Rob K. <rob...@gm...> - 2006-02-14 14:46:22

On 2/13/06, Ken Williams <ke...@ma...> wrote:
> nice solid way would be a major project.  We're scheduling it for the
> next big release, i.e. after 0.27_xx becomes 0.28xx.

Is there a current plan for the 0.28 release? There are a number of
features that I would love to use, but I can't until 0.28 is released
...

Thanks,
Rob

Re: 0.28 release date? (was Re: [Module::Build] Recursive builds?)

From: Ken W. <ke...@ma...> - 2006-02-14 18:25:31

On Feb 14, 2006, at 8:46 AM, Rob Kinyon wrote:

> On 2/13/06, Ken Williams <ke...@ma...> wrote:
>> nice solid way would be a major project.  We're scheduling it for the
>> next big release, i.e. after 0.27_xx becomes 0.28xx.
>
> Is there a current plan for the 0.28 release? There are a number of
> features that I would love to use, but I can't until 0.28 is released
> ...

The only thing we're waiting for is to fix the CPANPLUS bug in which 
installation error output doesn't get included in cpan-testers reports. 
  I'm not sure that's really going to happen right away though, because 
I can't get my tuits together for it.

Randy just wrote me a message saying similar, so I think we should just 
do the 0.28 release now.  We can make the version.pm and Build.bat 
changes right away afterwards, or if we get some patches in the next 
day or two I can put them in beforehand.

  -Ken

Re: 0.28 release date? (was Re: [Module::Build] Recursive builds?)

From: John P. <jpe...@ro...> - 2006-02-14 18:36:56

Attachments: mbversion.diff

Ken Williams wrote:
> Randy just wrote me a message saying similar, so I think we should just 
> do the 0.28 release now.  We can make the version.pm and Build.bat 
> changes right away afterwards, or if we get some patches in the next day 
> or two I can put them in beforehand.

I've got a very simple patch (attached) to handle version.pm, but I have 
to delve deep to figure out why YAML is spewing warnings during 
t/runthrough.t in the

	$mb->dispatch('disttest');

code on line 120.  I'm sure I can figure that out tonight if I had to.

I was also going to suggesting moving the version range code for 
PREREQUISITES get encapsulated in the new Module::Build::version object 
code, but that can wait til after 0.28 is out.

John

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Re: 0.28 release date? (was Re: [Module::Build] Recursive builds?)

From: Chris D. <ch...@cl...> - 2006-02-14 18:44:43

On Feb 14, 2006, at 12:37 PM, John Peacock wrote:

> ...
> -  is $1, $mb->VERSION, "Check version used to create META.yml: $1  
> == " . $mb->VERSION;
> +  ok $1 == $mb->VERSION, "Check version used to create META.yml:  
> $1 == " . $mb->VERSION;

John, et al.

Please consider making that
   cmp_ok $1, '==', $mb->VERSION, "Check version used to create  
META.yml: $1 == " . $mb->VERSION;
which makes for more readable failure cases.

Chris
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Re: 0.28 release date? (was Re: [Module::Build] Recursive builds?)

From: John P. <jpe...@ro...> - 2006-02-14 18:56:14

Chris Dolan wrote:
> John, et al.
> 
> Please consider making that
>   cmp_ok $1, '==', $mb->VERSION, "Check version used to create META.yml: 
> $1 == " . $mb->VERSION;
> which makes for more readable failure cases.

Noted (and changed in my private branch).  Sorry, I was going for 
minimal change and not thinking about readability.

John

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Rowman & Littlefield Publishing Group
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fax 301-429-5748

Re: 0.28 release date? (was Re: [Module::Build] Recursive builds?)

From: demerphq <dem...@gm...> - 2006-02-15 10:30:00

On 2/14/06, Ken Williams <ke...@ma...> wrote:
>
> On Feb 14, 2006, at 8:46 AM, Rob Kinyon wrote:
>
> > On 2/13/06, Ken Williams <ke...@ma...> wrote:
> >> nice solid way would be a major project.  We're scheduling it for the
> >> next big release, i.e. after 0.27_xx becomes 0.28xx.
> >
> > Is there a current plan for the 0.28 release? There are a number of
> > features that I would love to use, but I can't until 0.28 is released
> > ...
>
> The only thing we're waiting for is to fix the CPANPLUS bug in which
> installation error output doesn't get included in cpan-testers reports.
>   I'm not sure that's really going to happen right away though, because
> I can't get my tuits together for it.
>
> Randy just wrote me a message saying similar, so I think we should just
> do the 0.28 release now.  We can make the version.pm and Build.bat
> changes right away afterwards, or if we get some patches in the next
> day or two I can put them in beforehand.

I though i did provide a patch for the Build.bat issue.

Yves

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Re: 0.28 release date? (was Re: [Module::Build] Recursive builds?)

From: Ken W. <ke...@ma...> - 2006-02-16 15:34:39

On Feb 15, 2006, at 4:29 AM, demerphq wrote:

> On 2/14/06, Ken Williams <ke...@ma...> wrote:
>> Randy just wrote me a message saying similar, so I think we should 
>> just
>> do the 0.28 release now.  We can make the version.pm and Build.bat
>> changes right away afterwards, or if we get some patches in the next
>> day or two I can put them in beforehand.
>
> I though i did provide a patch for the Build.bat issue.

Yes, it's been applied now but I'll need some help making sure it's 
correct because I couldn't apply it cleanly.  Once we confirm that and 
get version.pm stuff working (so that core isn't broken) and get some 
testing reports back (which probably means another beta) we can release 
0.28.  But no other features besides those.

  -Ken

Re: 0.28 release date? (was Re: [Module::Build] Recursive builds?)

From: demerphq <dem...@gm...> - 2006-02-16 21:46:31

On 2/16/06, Ken Williams <ke...@ma...> wrote:
>
> On Feb 15, 2006, at 4:29 AM, demerphq wrote:
>
> > On 2/14/06, Ken Williams <ke...@ma...> wrote:
> >> Randy just wrote me a message saying similar, so I think we should
> >> just
> >> do the 0.28 release now.  We can make the version.pm and Build.bat
> >> changes right away afterwards, or if we get some patches in the next
> >> day or two I can put them in beforehand.
> >
> > I though i did provide a patch for the Build.bat issue.
>
> Yes, it's been applied now but I'll need some help making sure it's
> correct because I couldn't apply it cleanly.  Once we confirm that and
> get version.pm stuff working (so that core isn't broken) and get some
> testing reports back (which probably means another beta) we can release
> 0.28.  But no other features besides those.

Id be happy to test what you did and/or to put a new patch together
against a more recent version if you would prefer that.=20
(unfortunately im on holiday for a week starting saturday so if you
want a new patch it would probably have to wait.)

Yves

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Re: 0.28 release date? (was Re: [Module::Build] Recursive builds?)

From: Ken W. <ke...@ma...> - 2006-02-16 21:51:32

On Feb 16, 2006, at 3:46 PM, demerphq wrote:

>
> Id be happy to test what you did and/or to put a new patch together
> against a more recent version if you would prefer that.

Thanks.  I did apply it, can you see whether CVS behaves as you expect? 
  Ideally we'd also get some regression tests, but I'm not sure really 
what to be testing so I can't really write them myself.

  -Ken

Re: 0.28 release date? (was Re: [Module::Build] Recursive builds?)

From: demerphq <dem...@gm...> - 2006-02-16 22:32:44

On 2/16/06, Ken Williams <ke...@ma...> wrote:
>
> On Feb 16, 2006, at 3:46 PM, demerphq wrote:
>
> >
> > Id be happy to test what you did and/or to put a new patch together
> > against a more recent version if you would prefer that.
>
> Thanks.  I did apply it, can you see whether CVS behaves as you expect?
>   Ideally we'd also get some regression tests, but I'm not sure really
> what to be testing so I can't really write them myself.

Cvs access is not er, convenient. :-)

Can i have a tar.gz to do build and install? Or can put it on CPAN?
The latest i see is

 167801 2006-02-02 KWILLIAMS/Module-Build-0.27_07.tar.gz

yves
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Re: 0.28 release date? (was Re: [Module::Build] Recursive builds?)

From: Ken W. <ke...@ma...> - 2006-02-16 22:38:52

On Feb 16, 2006, at 4:32 PM, demerphq wrote:

> On 2/16/06, Ken Williams <ke...@ma...> wrote:
>>
>> On Feb 16, 2006, at 3:46 PM, demerphq wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Id be happy to test what you did and/or to put a new patch together
>>> against a more recent version if you would prefer that.
>>
>> Thanks.  I did apply it, can you see whether CVS behaves as you 
>> expect?
>>   Ideally we'd also get some regression tests, but I'm not sure really
>> what to be testing so I can't really write them myself.
>
> Cvs access is not er, convenient. :-)
>
> Can i have a tar.gz to do build and install?

I'll send a tarball under separate cover.

  -Ken

Re: 0.28 release date? (was Re: [Module::Build] Recursive builds?)

From: demerphq <dem...@gm...> - 2006-02-16 23:31:07

Attachments: Module-Build-0.27_07.patch

On 2/16/06, Ken Williams <ke...@ma...> wrote:
>
> On Feb 16, 2006, at 3:46 PM, demerphq wrote:
>
> >
> > Id be happy to test what you did and/or to put a new patch together
> > against a more recent version if you would prefer that.
>
> Thanks.  I did apply it, can you see whether CVS behaves as you expect?
> Ideally we'd also get some regression tests, but I'm not sure really
> what to be testing so I can't really write them myself.

It seems fine. Output below. I think the attached patch should be
applied as it might break existing frameworks where the batch files
are called directly.  I was overenethusiastic there, sorry. I have no
idea what to do about the final warning message. Its harmless so
probably should just be documented as a win32 quirk somewhere. As for
regression tests, isn't this already existing and tested behaviour
pretty well?

yves

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Re: 0.28 release date? (was Re: [Module::Build] Recursive builds?)

From: demerphq <dem...@gm...> - 2006-02-16 23:24:26

On 2/17/06, demerphq <dem...@gm...> wrote:
> On 2/16/06, Ken Williams <ke...@ma...> wrote:
> >
> > On Feb 16, 2006, at 3:46 PM, demerphq wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > Id be happy to test what you did and/or to put a new patch together
> > > against a more recent version if you would prefer that.
> >
> > Thanks.  I did apply it, can you see whether CVS behaves as you expect?
> > Ideally we'd also get some regression tests, but I'm not sure really
> > what to be testing so I can't really write them myself.
>
> It seems fine. Output below. I think the attached patch should be
> applied as it might break existing frameworks where the batch files
> are called directly.  I was overenethusiastic there, sorry. I have no
> idea what to do about the final warning message. Its harmless so
> probably should just be documented as a win32 quirk somewhere. As for
> regression tests, isn't this already existing and tested behaviour
> pretty well?

And heres the latest pathtools as installed with the EU::Install patch
I sent out a while back.

Yves

cpan> install KWILLIAMS/PathTools-3.16.tar.gz
Running make for K/KW/KWILLIAMS/PathTools-3.16.tar.gz
CPAN: Digest::MD5 loaded ok
Checksum for /dev/MIRROR/MINICPAN/authors/id/K/KW/KWILLIAMS/PathTools-3.16.=
tar.gz
ok
PathTools-3.16/
PathTools-3.16/Build.PL
PathTools-3.16/Changes
PathTools-3.16/Cwd.pm
PathTools-3.16/Cwd.xs
PathTools-3.16/INSTALL
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PathTools-3.16/lib/File/Spec/Cygwin.pm
PathTools-3.16/lib/File/Spec/Epoc.pm
PathTools-3.16/lib/File/Spec/Functions.pm
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PathTools-3.16/Makefile.PL
PathTools-3.16/MANIFEST
PathTools-3.16/META.yml
PathTools-3.16/ppport.h
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PathTools-3.16/t/cwd.t
PathTools-3.16/t/Functions.t
PathTools-3.16/t/lib/
PathTools-3.16/t/lib/Test/
PathTools-3.16/t/lib/Test/Builder.pm
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PathTools-3.16/t/lib/Test/Simple.pm
PathTools-3.16/t/lib/Test/Tutorial.pod
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PathTools-3.16/t/taint.t
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Re: 0.28 release date? (was Re: [Module::Build] Recursive builds?)

From: Ron S. <ro...@sa...> - 2006-02-16 23:42:59

On Fri, 17 Feb 2006 00:20:10 +0100, demerphq wrote:

Hi

> are called directly.  I was overenethusiastic there, sorry. I have
> no idea what to do about the final warning message. Its harmless so
> probably should just be documented as a win32 quirk somewhere. As

See below.

> D:\dev\cpan\Module-Build-0.27_07>build clean
> Deleting Build.cmd
> Deleting pod2htmd.tmp
> Deleting pod2htmi.tmp
> Deleting blib
> The batch file cannot be found.

I'm pretty sure you're getting this because you're deleting the batch file=
 which 
is currently running. Hopefully the delete of the batch file is the last=
 command 
in the file, in which case it /is/ harmless.
-- 
Cheers
Ron Savage, ro...@sa... on 17/02/2006
http://savage.net.au/index.html
Let the record show: Microsoft is not an Australian company

Re: 0.28 release date? (was Re: [Module::Build] Recursive builds?)

From: demerphq <dem...@gm...> - 2006-02-17 00:06:27

On 2/17/06, Ron Savage <ro...@sa...> wrote:
> On Fri, 17 Feb 2006 00:20:10 +0100, demerphq wrote:
>
> Hi
>
> > are called directly.  I was overenethusiastic there, sorry. I have
> > no idea what to do about the final warning message. Its harmless so
> > probably should just be documented as a win32 quirk somewhere. As
>
> See below.
>
> > D:\dev\cpan\Module-Build-0.27_07>build clean
> > Deleting Build.cmd
> > Deleting pod2htmd.tmp
> > Deleting pod2htmi.tmp
> > Deleting blib
> > The batch file cannot be found.
>
> I'm pretty sure you're getting this because you're deleting the batch fil=
e which
> is currently running. Hopefully the delete of the batch file is the last =
command
> in the file, in which case it /is/ harmless.

Its a pl2bat-ed file, so its definately harmless, but it could be
avoided with a bit of tickery im sure.

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Re: 0.28 release date? (was Re: [Module::Build] Recursive builds?)

From: Ken W. <ke...@ma...> - 2006-02-17 03:12:03

On Feb 16, 2006, at 5:20 PM, demerphq wrote:

> On 2/16/06, Ken Williams <ke...@ma...> wrote:
>>
>> On Feb 16, 2006, at 3:46 PM, demerphq wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Id be happy to test what you did and/or to put a new patch together
>>> against a more recent version if you would prefer that.
>>
>> Thanks.  I did apply it, can you see whether CVS behaves as you 
>> expect?
>> Ideally we'd also get some regression tests, but I'm not sure really
>> what to be testing so I can't really write them myself.
>
> It seems fine. Output below. I think the attached patch should be
> applied as it might break existing frameworks where the batch files
> are called directly.

Yup, agreed and applied.

  -Ken

Re: 0.28 release date? (was Re: [Module::Build] Recursive builds?)

From: Rob K. <rob...@gm...> - 2006-02-15 19:00:50

On 2/14/06, Ken Williams <ke...@ma...> wrote:
>
> On Feb 14, 2006, at 8:46 AM, Rob Kinyon wrote:
>
> > On 2/13/06, Ken Williams <ke...@ma...> wrote:
> >> nice solid way would be a major project.  We're scheduling it for the
> >> next big release, i.e. after 0.27_xx becomes 0.28xx.
> >
> > Is there a current plan for the 0.28 release? There are a number of
> > features that I would love to use, but I can't until 0.28 is released
> > ...
>
> The only thing we're waiting for is to fix the CPANPLUS bug in which
> installation error output doesn't get included in cpan-testers reports.
>   I'm not sure that's really going to happen right away though, because
> I can't get my tuits together for it.

I may just be echoing commonly-held sentiment, but if 0.28 is being
held up because there's a bug in CPANPLUS, that's annoying. Neither I
nor anyone I know even uses CPANPLUS.

I just want to start writing "use Module::Build 0.28;" at the top of
my Build.PL's and be done with it. :-)

Rob

Re: 0.28 release date? (was Re: [Module::Build] Recursive builds?)

From: Chris D. <ch...@cl...> - 2006-02-15 20:12:42

On Feb 15, 2006, at 1:00 PM, Rob Kinyon wrote:

> I may just be echoing commonly-held sentiment, but if 0.28 is being
> held up because there's a bug in CPANPLUS, that's annoying. Neither I
> nor anyone I know even uses CPANPLUS.

Neither I nor anyone I know even uses Solaris.  Nonetheless, I would  
not recommend shipping 0.28 if it were broken under Solaris  
(hypothetically speaking).

Just another CPANPLUS user,
Chris
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Re: 0.28 release date? (was Re: [Module::Build] Recursive builds?)

From: demerphq <dem...@gm...> - 2006-02-15 20:17:56

On 2/15/06, Chris Dolan <ch...@cl...> wrote:
> On Feb 15, 2006, at 1:00 PM, Rob Kinyon wrote:
>
> > I may just be echoing commonly-held sentiment, but if 0.28 is being
> > held up because there's a bug in CPANPLUS, that's annoying. Neither I
> > nor anyone I know even uses CPANPLUS.
>
> Neither I nor anyone I know even uses Solaris.  Nonetheless, I would
> not recommend shipping 0.28 if it were broken under Solaris
> (hypothetically speaking).
>
> Just another CPANPLUS user,

So then why dont you help the MB folks sort out this problem?

Yves

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Re: 0.28 release date? (was Re: [Module::Build] Recursive builds?)

From: Chris D. <ch...@cl...> - 2006-02-15 20:30:12

On Feb 15, 2006, at 2:17 PM, demerphq wrote:

> On 2/15/06, Chris Dolan <ch...@cl...> wrote:
>> On Feb 15, 2006, at 1:00 PM, Rob Kinyon wrote:
>>
>>> I may just be echoing commonly-held sentiment, but if 0.28 is being
>>> held up because there's a bug in CPANPLUS, that's annoying.  
>>> Neither I
>>> nor anyone I know even uses CPANPLUS.
>>
>> Neither I nor anyone I know even uses Solaris.  Nonetheless, I would
>> not recommend shipping 0.28 if it were broken under Solaris
>> (hypothetically speaking).
>>
>> Just another CPANPLUS user,
>
> So then why dont you help the MB folks sort out this problem?
>
> Yves

The key word is "user".  I've contributed bug fixes to both M::B and  
CP+ in the past, but I simply don't understand the M::B <-> CP+  
interaction well enough to fix it myself.

Chris
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608-294-7900, fax 294-7025, 1435 E Main St, Madison WI 53703
vCard: http://www.chrisdolan.net/ChrisDolan.vcf

Clotho Advanced Media, Inc. - Creators of MediaLandscape Software  
(http://www.media-landscape.com/) and partners in the revolutionary  
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Re: 0.28 release date? (was Re: [Module::Build] Recursive builds?)

From: Ken W. <ke...@ma...> - 2006-02-16 16:01:58

On Feb 15, 2006, at 2:30 PM, Chris Dolan wrote:

> On Feb 15, 2006, at 2:17 PM, demerphq wrote:
>
>> On 2/15/06, Chris Dolan <ch...@cl...> wrote:
>>> On Feb 15, 2006, at 1:00 PM, Rob Kinyon wrote:
>>>
>>>> I may just be echoing commonly-held sentiment, but if 0.28 is being
>>>> held up because there's a bug in CPANPLUS, that's annoying. Neither 
>>>> I
>>>> nor anyone I know even uses CPANPLUS.
>>>
>>> Neither I nor anyone I know even uses Solaris.  Nonetheless, I would
>>> not recommend shipping 0.28 if it were broken under Solaris
>>> (hypothetically speaking).
>>>
>>> Just another CPANPLUS user,
>>
>> So then why dont you help the MB folks sort out this problem?
>>
>> Yves
>
> The key word is "user".  I've contributed bug fixes to both M::B and 
> CP+ in the past, but I simply don't understand the M::B <-> CP+ 
> interaction well enough to fix it myself.

I think it's been decided that we're not going to fix this for 0.28 
then.

Of course, there's surely a CPANLUS equivalent of Yves out there 
somewhere who's going to say "M::B has its priorities wrong because 
they STILL don't support CPANPLUS!"  But this project has made my skin 
a bit thicker than it used to be, so those people can wait patiently or 
impatiently; the squeaky wheel will get the grease, CPANPLUS hasn't had 
any squeaky wheel people for a while now.

  -Ken

Re: 0.28 release date? (was Re: [Module::Build] Recursive builds?)

From: Chris D. <ch...@cl...> - 2006-02-16 17:18:52

On Feb 16, 2006, at 10:01 AM, Ken Williams wrote:

> I think it's been decided that we're not going to fix this for 0.28  
> then.
>
> Of course, there's surely a CPANLUS equivalent of Yves out there  
> somewhere who's going to say "M::B has its priorities wrong because  
> they STILL don't support CPANPLUS!"  But this project has made my  
> skin a bit thicker than it used to be, so those people can wait  
> patiently or impatiently; the squeaky wheel will get the grease,  
> CPANPLUS hasn't had any squeaky wheel people for a while now.

Fair enough.  I'm happy as long as the decision isn't just because  
"nobody we know uses CP+".  I also haven't seen any MB<-->CP+  
breakage myself in a long time.

Thanks Ken.
Chris
-- 
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608-294-7900, fax 294-7025, 1435 E Main St, Madison WI 53703
vCard: http://www.chrisdolan.net/ChrisDolan.vcf

Clotho Advanced Media, Inc. - Creators of MediaLandscape Software  
(http://www.media-landscape.com/) and partners in the revolutionary  
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Re: 0.28 release date? (was Re: [Module::Build] Recursive builds?)

From: Ken W. <ke...@ma...> - 2006-02-16 17:28:05

On Feb 16, 2006, at 11:18 AM, Chris Dolan wrote:

> On Feb 16, 2006, at 10:01 AM, Ken Williams wrote:
>
>> I think it's been decided that we're not going to fix this for 0.28 
>> then.
>>
>> Of course, there's surely a CPANLUS equivalent of Yves out there 
>> somewhere who's going to say "M::B has its priorities wrong because 
>> they STILL don't support CPANPLUS!"  But this project has made my 
>> skin a bit thicker than it used to be, so those people can wait 
>> patiently or impatiently; the squeaky wheel will get the grease, 
>> CPANPLUS hasn't had any squeaky wheel people for a while now.
>
> Fair enough.  I'm happy as long as the decision isn't just because 
> "nobody we know uses CP+".  I also haven't seen any MB<-->CP+ breakage 
> myself in a long time.

That's good.  The specific bug I know (knew?) about was that 
cpan-testers error reports don't include any diagnostic output when 
they're generated by CPANPLUS using a Build.PL - so I guess either it's 
fixed, or your modules never generate errors. =)

  -Ken

Re: 0.28 release date? (was Re: [Module::Build] Recursive builds?)

From: Chris D. <ch...@cl...> - 2006-02-16 17:35:19

On Feb 16, 2006, at 11:27 AM, Ken Williams wrote:

> That's good.  The specific bug I know (knew?) about was that cpan- 
> testers error reports don't include any diagnostic output when  
> they're generated by CPANPLUS using a Build.PL - so I guess either  
> it's fixed, or your modules never generate errors. =)

/me takes a bow   :-)

Chris
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608-294-7900, fax 294-7025, 1435 E Main St, Madison WI 53703
vCard: http://www.chrisdolan.net/ChrisDolan.vcf

Clotho Advanced Media, Inc. - Creators of MediaLandscape Software  
(http://www.media-landscape.com/) and partners in the revolutionary  
Croquet project (http://www.opencroquet.org/)

Re: 0.28 release date? (was Re: [Module::Build] Recursive builds?)

From: David W. <da...@ki...> - 2006-02-16 17:38:47

On Feb 16, 2006, at 09:27, Ken Williams wrote:

> That's good.  The specific bug I know (knew?) about was that cpan- 
> testers error reports don't include any diagnostic output when  
> they're generated by CPANPLUS using a Build.PL - so I guess either  
> it's fixed, or your modules never generate errors. =)

Someone told me about this bug after cpanp sent them a failure report  
from my Mac. But what "diagnostic" information is missing, exactly?  
Maybe there are some links to what it looks like and what it should  
look like in the cpan-testers archives?

Best,

David

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