Re: [Module::Build] Re: something broken between Module::Build, CPAN.pm, and ExtUtils::MakeMaker in 5.8.8 for UINST=1

[Ken W. <ke...@ma...>]

On Feb 14, 2006, at 5:43 AM, demerphq wrote:

> On 2/14/06, Adam Kennedy <cp...@al...> wrote:
>> Yitzchak Scott-Thoennes wrote:
>>> On Sun, Feb 12, 2006 at 09:26:06PM -0800, Randal L. Schwartz wrote:
>>>>>>>>> "chromatic" == chromatic  <chr...@wg...> writes:
>>>> chromatic> On Sunday 12 February 2006 18:32, Randal L. Schwartz 
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> My prefer_installer is EUMM.  And the value of mbuild_install_arg 
>>>>>> shouldn't
>>>>>> matter, because it should always be using EUMM, not MB.
>>>> chromatic> That's going to be difficult for distributions that only 
>>>> provide a Build.PL
>>>> chromatic> file.
>>>>
>>>> I recognize that, but (a) those distros should not exist, so that's
>>>
>>> A couple of months ago I would have agreed.  Now I'm not so sure.
>>> If you'd care to take time, I'd be interested in hearing your views
>>> on what level of MB support would be necessary before such distros
>>> should exist.
>>
>> For me it comes down to one simple structural problem (I consider 
>> things
>> like PREFIX nigglies that can be fixed).
>>
>> Module::Build (specifically ONLY dists without a Makefile.PL) simply
>> doesn't bootstrap.

I think I'm coming into this discussion late. =(  What do you mean by 
"doesn't bootstrap"?  M::B does indeed use itself to install itself, so 
you must have something else in mind.  Could you elaborate briefly to 
bring me up to date on this discussion?


> At the very least the Makefile.pl could create a tiny makefile that
> then runs Build.pl and Build as needed. If someone can explain why
> this is impossible, then id like to hear it.

We already do that, using the 'passthrough' or 'small' options for 
auto-creating a Makefile.PL.  See the docs for Module::Build::Compat.

Module::Build itself also ships with such a Makefile.PL so that 
automated tools like CPAN(PLUS) can install it.

  -Ken