[Mod-pubsub-developer] FW: Mod-pubsub-developer digest, Vol 1 #149 - 1 msg

[Rajeev D. <ra...@kn...>]

>double de-lurk<

Most of the people that pick this widget up and go uh?! Where do I use =
it? I haven't seen real world deployments highlighted to educate me on =
pubsub's use.  Yeah, there is a packaging issue and the site is =
confusing - what part do I take?  How do the peices fit together?=20

But, the issue still remains.  Where do I use it?  Why aren't there =
links to other projects that use this cool technology?  Maybe it ain't =
so cool.

Oh, feel the butt getting hot; looks like flames acoming:

1. KnowNow scum
2. You just don't get it (maybe, where do you use pubsub?)
3. You're not a web head (true)
4. Contribute to open source or shut up (hmmm)
5. KnowNow scum ( true )
6. "I'm surprised you got this email thru' correctly" - did I (Adam, =
told me jsut to reply to the digest)?  Did it get thru'?  I'll find out =
tomorrow when I get the next digest. (LOL - it didn't!  This is the 2nd =
try)

happy holidays :-)

Ouch!  Damn, it's burning!

>double re-lurk - anyone got a heat shield?!<

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From: "Andrew Athan" <aa...@me...>
Cc: <mod...@li...>
Subject: RE: [Mod-pubsub-developer] Re: Do commercial deployments count?
Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2003 22:19:57 -0500


>de-lurk<

Forgive my audacity for stating what is probably obvious but ...

I believe that the bottom line here is that there is a mismatch between =
the
(A)  perceived value of internet pubsub and (B) the perceived+actual =
effort
required to achieve it , especially in relation to the next-best =
available
solutions.



So ... you must either (1) increase A or (2) decrease B.  Unfortunately, =
you
won't get anywhere with very many people, even with near zero-B until A
crosses a certain threshold.

If you feel (A) is still low for the general masses, then the people
adopting mod_pubsub probably don't care much about (B).  They're =
hackers,
tinkerers and folks with the time and motivation to learn anything.  Is =
this
really the case?  I'm not sure but IMHO the slow takeup of mod_pubsub is =
not
a popularity or visibility problem.  I.e., it is not about "how do we =
get
more people to realize this is possible"

But clearly, you have little leverage over (A) and if you can decrease =
(B)
to near zero, you will increase the uptake rate.  Plus, you will =
maximize
the chances that some brilliant killer-app will be written.

As far as (A) is concerned, the biggest leverage may be the open source
community itself.  Stop improving mod_pubsub and start providing =
mod_pubsub
improvements for various opensource projects ... and get places like
www.vote.com to use the product.

>re-lurk<