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[Mod-auth-devel] roll beta release this saturday?

From: Paul Q. <ch...@fo...> - 2003-10-31 05:01:52

Either Friday or Saturday I will roll a beta release for mod_authn_dbi, if
there isn't anything major outstanding.

I need todo this to figure out everything that should be in the offical
tarballs.. etc..

Before we make an official "release" we also need to fix up the documentation.

-chip

[Mod-auth-devel] roll beta release this saturday?

From: Paul Q. <ch...@ap...> - 2003-10-31 05:01:48

Either Friday or Saturday I will roll a beta release for mod_authn_dbi, if
there isn't anything major outstanding.

I need todo this to figure out everything that should be in the offical
tarballs.. etc..

Before we make an official "release" we also need to fix up the documentation.

-chip

Re: [Mod-auth-devel] new documentation started

From: Paul Q. <ch...@fo...> - 2003-10-29 16:27:42

> > In the next few days I will move this to an automated cronjob.
> >
> > I think making web based docs better is more important than a very heavy
> > README. (as ours is becoming)
> 
> well, at least for compiling, i like to have docs around
> that i can read without a webbroswer.
> 
> the other documentation can go into the website.

Yes, i think the README/INSTALL Files should include the basic docs to get
started, but i felt the Readme was starting to turn into a full out guide on
authn_dbi.  Keeping the Readme short and sweet on howto install and get a very
_basic_ setup is all that is needed.  I think that it should tell people where
to find indepth documentation (on the website)

> 
> what are your plans for mod_authn_mysql/mod_authn_pgsql?
> do you want to keep them parallel to mod_authn_dbi to have
> a way to authenticate against them witout having to use
> libdbi or to use special features of the db or will
> you phase these modules out?

Once authn_dbi is stable, I plan to take it and port it to raw pgsql and
mysql.  I had always intended to keep authn_mysql upgdated, but as i worked on
authn_dbi, it fell behind(and now it is horribly outdated)

> i saw that you marked a few of the configuration directives
> as depreciated. do you plan to remove them?
> at least AuthnDbiPasswordField would have to stay for the moment,
> it is not only used in populate_querystring but also to
> pick the password field from the result of the SQL query.
> 
> and i would like to keep the other directives as well. they are a
> nice lightweight way to configure it without having to fiddle
> with the query.

Hmm. I am not sure how i want to go on with this.  I like the Query system
better, but having the directives for each field is a nice way to get a simple
query setup.  Maybe we should keep them in?  I just marked them depreciated
because I would like to move to just having a query config, but i really
didn't think about it alot.  Now that I am thinking about it, I am not sure
which way I want to go.

> 
> what will happen to the mod_authn_dbi site at cyanworlds?

Once we are ready for the first release, and a basic "homepage" is done, I
will get the links changed.
 
> when we have the first realease out, we should probably change
> the entry in the module-registry to point to the new site too..

dito here.

-chip

Re: [Mod-auth-devel] new documentation started

From: Axel G. <ag...@pr...> - 2003-10-29 15:51:38

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Paul Querna wrote:

moin,

> I have taken a now slightly hacked version of the HTTPd-docs project
stuff and
> imported it into the webspace CVS module.

wow, the website looks very nice.

> To build HTML files from the XML, cd to
mod_auth_webspace/htdocs/docs/build
> and run build.sh (this requires java 1.2+ to work)

ok.

i will start adding documentation about mod_authn_dbi

> In the next few days I will move this to an automated cronjob.
>
> I think making web based docs better is more important than a very heavy
> README. (as ours is becoming)

well, at least for compiling, i like to have docs around
that i can read without a webbroswer.

the other documentation can go into the website.

what are your plans for mod_authn_mysql/mod_authn_pgsql?
do you want to keep them parallel to mod_authn_dbi to have
a way to authenticate against them witout having to use
libdbi or to use special features of the db or will
you phase these modules out?

i saw that you marked a few of the configuration directives
as depreciated. do you plan to remove them?
at least AuthnDbiPasswordField would have to stay for the moment,
it is not only used in populate_querystring but also to
pick the password field from the result of the SQL query.

and i would like to keep the other directives as well. they are a
nice lightweight way to configure it without having to fiddle
with the query.

what will happen to the mod_authn_dbi site at cyanworlds?

when we have the first realease out, we should probably change
the entry in the module-registry to point to the new site too..

tty, axel

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      Managing Computer Security Incident Response Teams
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[Mod-auth-devel] new documentation started

From: Paul Q. <ch...@fo...> - 2003-10-29 07:01:54

I have taken a now slightly hacked version of the HTTPd-docs project stuff and
imported it into the webspace CVS module.

Right now I have laid out the basic sections of the documentation, but there
isn't much as far as good content.

To build HTML files from the XML, cd to mod_auth_webspace/htdocs/docs/build
and run build.sh (this requires java 1.2+ to work)

It is also possilbe to view the XML files with a web browser directly, Mozilla
does okay most of the time(biggest problem is slower loading time)

The Apache Docs team has some info on their XML stuff here:
http://httpd.apache.org/docs-project/docsformat.html

I am currently manualy updating the version on the website at:
http://mod-auth.sourceforge.net/docs/

In the next few days I will move this to an automated cronjob.

I think making web based docs better is more important than a very heavy
README. (as ours is becoming)

-chip

[Mod-auth-devel] Testing, Please Ignore.

From: Paul Q. <ch...@fo...> - 2003-10-28 14:41:49

blah. Wonder if it is my mail client that is FUBARED?

it seems odd to send 3 copies to sf, when ive been only plenty of other
mailing lists without this problem...

-chip

[Mod-auth-devel] Re: config switch() & bug in libdbi

From: Paul Q. <ch...@fo...> - 2003-10-27 17:33:46

> maybe it would be good to decide a minimum required version
> of libdbi and have configure test it.

Yes, I need to write some more autoconf 'foo' to do this.
It looks like the version isn't defined in the dbi.h, there were some
functions that were added in 0.7.1 that we could easily test for however.

> could you add configure switches
> 
> - --with-dbi-libs
> and
> - --with-dbi-include
> ? 
> its nice to be able to specify these separately.

Yep, added these, and also made it check /usr and /usr/local if none of the
dbi options are set. (should help it work out of the box with most people)

-chip

[Mod-auth-devel] config switch() & bug in libdbi

From: Axel G. <ag...@pr...> - 2003-10-27 15:39:41

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moin,

i tested the new config system (but not very thoroughly)
and it seems to work fine.

the current autogen.sh does not work for me, though.
i have to change it to:

autoheader
autoconf
automake -a
chmod +x configure

then it works.


and i found another bug in libdbi (and reported it) and added
a workaround. at the moment, libdbi cannot work with NULL
password. but mysql-docs say, to login without a giving
a password requires setting password to NULL. fortunately,
setting the password to "" works as well, so i changed the
default DFLT_DBI_PASS accordingly, until they have fixed this.

maybe it would be good to decide a minimum required version
of libdbi and have configure test it.

could you add configure switches

- --with-dbi-libs
and
- --with-dbi-include
?

its nice to be able to specify these separately.


tty, axel



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Axel Grossklaus                            PRESECURE (R)
Security Specialist,                     Consulting GmbH
Phone: (+49) 040 / 8080 77 - 880        ag...@pr...
Fax:   (+49) 040 / 8080 77 - 877

       Course licensed from the CERT Coordination Center
      Managing Computer Security Incident Response Teams
                          https://www.pre-secure.de/ms12
                              Muenster, Nov. 26-28, 2003
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[Mod-auth-devel] new config system in CVS

From: Paul Q. <ch...@fo...> - 2003-10-27 05:27:25

I have put the new switch() based config stuff into CVS.

I have done simple testing and it works for me here, please test it and let me
know if there are any problems.

-chip

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