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From: Vincent M. <vm...@us...> - 2001-08-11 14:52:03
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From: Vincent M. <vm...@oc...> - 2001-08-11 14:55:24
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I have finally succeeded in configuring CVS so that it sends messages to the dev mailing list whenever someone makes a commit. This is so that we can track what is happening on the repository. Otherwise, it is hard to know when something has changed ... Thanks -Vincent |
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From: Steve F. <st...@m3...> - 2001-08-11 15:19:20
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From: Vincent M. <vm...@oc...> - 2001-08-12 09:21:39
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With JDK 1.3 we can use dynamic proxy (as in easy mock) for automatically generating the mock objects. However it does not work with JDK 1.1 and 1.2. I have found this interesting framework (called hotswap) that will let you do hot swapping at runtime. It would work for our problem BUT it seems it only works with JDK 1.2 ... There is no mention in the doc of JDK 1.1 ... Still I found the article interesting and wanted to let you know : http://www.inxar.org/hotswap/inxar/hotswap-0_8_6/docs/manual/manual.html Thanks -Vincent |
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From: Steve F. <st...@m3...> - 2001-08-12 11:49:20
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From: Vincent M. <vm...@oc...> - 2001-08-12 14:49:17
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Here is a paper presented at XPUnivers on the subject: "Automatically Generating System Mock Objects" URL: http://www.xpuniverse.com/Testing04.pdf Here is the abstract: ABSTRACT In test before code environments [1], writing many quick and efficient unit tests helps projects execute quickly. As the software product under test becomes increasingly complex, it becomes harder to write unit tests to test one particular software object without interacting with the entire system (systemic testing). [5] proposes the MockObject pattern [2, 6] as a technique to replace a real object with a fake test object during testing. We propose a variation, which focuses on the following two goals: (a) Replace external systems for which the unit test developer has no control with mock systems. (b) Generate as much of the mock implementation automatically using Java's reflection Application Interface (API). I have not read it yet. Will do soon though ... -Vincent |
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From: Vincent M. <vm...@oc...> - 2001-08-12 15:17:30
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Hi, Question: Where is the official URL for the "Endo-Testing" white paper PDF ? My ideas : * We put it on http://www.mockobjects.com/mockobjects.pdf (instead of http://www.sidewize.com/company/mockobjects.pdf), so that we regroup everything that has to do with mockobjects on www.mockobjects.com * We put a link to it in http://www.mockobjects.com/endotesting.html (the HTML version), something like "You can also download the original PDF version" ... * We modify the link on junit.org to point to the new location (and anywhere else where it was posted to). However, to do this we still need to have www.mockobjects.com to _really_ point to http://mockobjects.sourceforge.net (in the DNS sense). Currently this is _not_ what is in place : there is a page (hosted somewhere, probably on one of the server from the company where the domain name was purchased) that does a redirect. This is probably not what we want, because it means we cannot type something like http://www.mockobjects.com/endotesting.html ... (or http://www.mockobjects.com/mockobjects.pdf)... Steve, can you handle this issue if you agree ? Thanks. Comments ? Do you like this idea ? Thanks -Vincent P.S.: I have asked Erik Meade (from junit.org) to modify the URL for the mockobjects project that is linked in the extension section to http://www.mockobjects.com and to change the description from "Mock objects to help you test." to "The Mock Objects project is a generic unit testing framework whose goal is to facilitate developing unit tests in the mock object style". Hope this is fine. |
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From: Steve F. <st...@m3...> - 2001-08-12 15:43:18
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From: Vincent M. <vm...@oc...> - 2001-08-12 15:54:28
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----- Original Message ----- From: "Steve Freeman" <st...@m3...> To: <moc...@li...> Sent: Sunday, August 12, 2001 4:27 PM Subject: Re: [Mockobjects-java-dev] Mock Objects white paper PDF location ? > > Question: Where is the official URL for the "Endo-Testing" white paper PDF ? > > It should be in a documentation section of the mockobjects paper. I should port it again to the doc book format. What is the problem with the current page (endotesting.html) on the web site ? As I said we could add a link there to the PDF version. I am not sure what you mean about DocBook .... DocBook is simply a DTD, the result is done through XSL. So you could change all the web site to use the DocBook DTD but still have the same look and feel. What do you want to change : - the XML DTD for writing the web site pages ? - the web site look and feel ? > > > However, to do this we still need to have www.mockobjects.com to _really_ > > point to http://mockobjects.sourceforge.net (in the DNS sense). Currently > > this is _not_ what is in place : there is a page (hosted somewhere, probably > > on one of the server from the company where the domain name was purchased) > > that does a redirect. This is probably not what we want, because it means we > > cannot type something like http://www.mockobjects.com/endotesting.html ... > > (or http://www.mockobjects.com/mockobjects.pdf)... Steve, can you handle > > this issue if you agree ? Thanks. > > the forwarding uk2 provides will support subdirectories. I can add some if you like. Alternatively, I can change the DNS entry to point somewhere else if we have a suitable host. > yes: http://mockobjects.sourceforge.net ! -Vincent |
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From: Steve F. <st...@m3...> - 2001-08-12 22:16:57
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From: Vincent M. <vm...@oc...> - 2001-08-13 06:59:23
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----- Original Message ----- From: "Steve Freeman" <st...@m3...> To: <moc...@li...> Sent: Sunday, August 12, 2001 11:17 PM Subject: [Mockobjects-java-dev] ant targets? > At work, I've adopted a convention of making internal targets CamelCase and external targets lower case, it seems to read quite well. I would have preferred something like "_my_internal_target" for internal targets and "my_external_target" for external ones, or prefix internal targets with a word like "internal" (for example "my_target" would give "internal_my_target"). I think the latter is the ones that would read the best. I've just reread the build.xml and noticed that I have used another convention, which is, for any xxx target, to prepare all environment setup (directory creation, copies of files, ...) in a "prepare-xxx" target. Also, I tend to prefer to write "my.target" rather than "my-target" or "my_target". We could homogeneize on this pattern if you like it. So with the proposition above, that would give "_my..target" or "internal.my.target" However if you strongly prefer CamelCase, that's fine. Coding conventions are always hard to decide .... :) > > What do you think? > > steve -Vincent |
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From: Vincent M. <vm...@oc...> - 2001-08-21 11:14:32
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Steve, Any chance that we could put this paper in the Mock Objects web site ? Could you put it in XML format ? Thanks -Vincent |
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From: Steve F. <st...@m3...> - 2001-08-22 01:10:10
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From: Vincent M. <vm...@oc...> - 2001-08-22 06:41:25
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----- Original Message ----- From: "Steve Freeman" <st...@m3...> To: <moc...@li...> Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2001 1:59 AM Subject: Re: [Mockobjects-java-dev] JDBC Test First ? > I'd like to put it up soon, but it needs some more tidy up. > ok > I'd also like to move it to XML, but the current format doesn't support highlighting within the code. I don't think it is enough to hold the move to XML ... :) That's our style for the moment and I think it is good enough for the time being. We can always improve later on. I think that we badly need some documentation on the web site to give examples, and it is priority number 1. Let's go for it ! :) -Vincent > > I'll take a look now we're back online > > Steve > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Vincent Massol" <vm...@oc...> > To: <moc...@li...> > Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2001 12:17 PM > Subject: [Mockobjects-java-dev] JDBC Test First ? > > > > Steve, > > > > Any chance that we could put this paper in the Mock Objects web site ? Could > > you put it in XML format ? > > > > Thanks > > -Vincent > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Mockobjects-java-dev mailing list > > Moc...@li... > > http://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/mockobjects-java-dev > > > 2?$¡¸ÞrÛ#jözùsSX§,X¬´Ê '?ãyËl«ÚuëåSËl²<«qç讧zØm¶Yÿ-+-²Ê.ÇY¢¸ ë-+-³ùb² ا~æ¡É(n7o¶ÈÚ½§^ |
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From: Vincent M. <vm...@oc...> - 2001-08-15 14:12:15
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Is it possible to change the mailing list configuration so that it does not prepend the name of the list to each message sent ? I find this a bit annoying ... Thanks -Vincent |
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From: Steve F. <st...@m3...> - 2001-08-15 22:51:14
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From: Vincent M. <vm...@oc...> - 2001-08-16 08:16:49
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[Aside: If your client don't do filtering, you're lost ! You should change client ... :-) I am subscribed to 20 mailing-lists and receive about 2000 mails *per day*. Imagine my life without filtering, impossible ... And I think most people participating to open source are also subscribed to several other lists.] But this is not important. I asked, just in case, everyone would agree (I don't even know if it is possible to change ?). Let's keep it the way it is now .... :-) Thanks -Vincent ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steve Freeman" <st...@m3...> To: <moc...@li...> Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2001 6:55 PM Subject: Re: [Mockobjects-java-dev] mailing list configuration > Not sure. > > Most of the mailing lists seem to do this nowadays to make it easier for people to cope with multiple lists. > > I prefer it because I'm using IMAP and my client won't do automatic filtering. > > What do other people think? > Steve > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Vincent Massol" <vm...@oc...> > To: <moc...@li...> > Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2001 3:15 PM > Subject: [Mockobjects-java-dev] mailing list configuration > > > > Is it possible to change the mailing list configuration so that it does not > > prepend the name of the list to each message sent ? I find this a bit > > annoying ... > > Thanks > > -Vincent > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Mockobjects-java-dev mailing list > > Moc...@li... > > http://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/mockobjects-java-dev > > > 2¡rjzS,´'yuS²q®z¶-²¢-³²~¡n¶½ |
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From: Thomas C. <ald...@ne...> - 2001-08-17 18:12:28
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"I am subscribed to 20 mailing-lists and receive about 2000 mails *per day*. Imagine my life without filtering, impossible " In recent news, analysis of Vincent Missal's various folders indicates that at least 100 of the daily 2000 messages were from Vincent himself... <big> I currently use the bracketed list identification in the subject to sort emails out into different folders, but there is other information I can use in the From and To fields, so I am indifferent to changing the mailing list configuration. Tom |
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From: Vincent M. <vm...@oc...> - 2001-08-17 18:22:21
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----- Original Message ----- From: "Thomas Calivera" <ald...@ne...> To: <moc...@li...> Sent: Friday, August 17, 2001 7:10 PM Subject: Re: [Mockobjects-java-dev] mailing list configuration > "I am subscribed to 20 mailing-lists and receive about 2000 mails *per day*. > Imagine my life without filtering, impossible " > > In recent news, analysis of Vincent Missal's various folders indicates that > at least 100 of the daily 2000 messages were from Vincent himself... <big> :-) > > I currently use the bracketed list identification in the subject to sort > emails out into different folders, but there is other information I can use > in the From and To fields, so I am indifferent to changing the mailing list > configuration. I use the "to" field but as I said I have agreed to keep it as it is ... no big deal ... > > Tom -Vincent |
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From: Steve F. <st...@m3...> - 2001-08-12 15:43:18
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From: Vincent M. <vm...@oc...> - 2001-08-21 10:58:49
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The http://www.mockobjects.com domain is still not pointing to http://mockobjects.sourceforge.com ... Could we change that quickly ? Thanks -Vincent |
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From: Steve F. <st...@m3...> - 2001-08-22 00:20:23
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