Re: [MO-java-dev] Why is it so complicated???

[Steve F. <st...@m3...>]

Tim wrote:
> Guys - I've always used an internal connextra version of the mock
> objects stuff. Now I'm no longer with connextra I thought I would try
> using the official release and see if I could maybe integrate some
> stuff... but why is it so complicated?

because we have to support multiple VMs and multiple J2ee's. Yes, it's a
pig.

> Its certainly not easy to just pull this down in eclipse and use
> it... there are jdk versions to worry about (yes I know this is an
> issue but only for very advanced stuff - surely?), and the directory
> structures don't easily map into the eclipse view of the world (I
> guess you guys all use some complicated scheme in intellij? But why
> not use eclipse as the lowest common denominator?

It can be setup in an eclipse project, it's not an Idea thing. Given
that VisualAge is effectively dead, some of those issues will have gone
away.

> what do you think? We have to make life simpler for ourselves and
> stop having to answer the "method x is not implemented in that mock
> here's my patch" hard work that seems to be going on at the moment.

I think a rebuild is an excellent idea, we've gone off the rails in a 
couple of places, but we might want to do it incrementally. We still 
want a batch build, and I stronly suspect that we'll want some stuff 
that will vary by version. I suggest that the first step would be to 
pull out the website and the alt. packages.

S.