mlterm-dev-en

Re: [Mlterm-dev-en] color problem of mutt (Re: how to use fonts)

[Minami H. <mi...@mi...>]

Seiichi SATO wrote:
> On Sun, Oct 17, 2004 at 04:26:41AM +0200,
>  Nuno Alexandre wrote:

> > Im still having issues with the colors,
> > take alook at this snapshot:
> > <URL: http://ikaro.homepage.dk/2004-10-17-01-17_1600x1200.png>
> > The 'ugly' one is mlterm.
> > 
> > Why are the colors in mutt completly different, than in the two aterms?
> 
> If your mutt was compiled with slang. that is a known issue.
> 
> <http://www.sh.rim.or.jp/~ssato/mlterm/debian_bts_267294.png>
> 
> I am working to solve this problem, but i don't know why it
> occurs.

It seems to be a slang's problem that do not work well 
on a terminal which lacks a feature called "bce".

Though mlterm can mimic the feature to some extent,
it will run a bit slowly and consume more memory in that case.
So if you are using mlterm with TERM=mlterm,
its bce emulation is disabled by default.

To make mlterm behave as a bce terminal, the simplest way may be
executing mlterm with TERM=xterm. What happens if you do
 mlterm -y=xterm
and run mutt on it?

regards,

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minami <mi...@mi...>

Re: [Mlterm-dev-en] color problem of mutt (Re: how to use fonts)

[Seiichi S. <ss...@sh...>]

On Sun, Oct 17, 2004 at 05:06:33PM +0900,
 Minami Hirokazu wrote:

> Seiichi SATO wrote:
> > On Sun, Oct 17, 2004 at 04:26:41AM +0200,
> >  Nuno Alexandre wrote:
> 
> > > Im still having issues with the colors,
> > > take alook at this snapshot:
> > > <URL: http://ikaro.homepage.dk/2004-10-17-01-17_1600x1200.png>
> > > The 'ugly' one is mlterm.
> > > 
> > > Why are the colors in mutt completly different, than in the two aterms?
> > 
> > If your mutt was compiled with slang. that is a known issue.
> > 
> > <http://www.sh.rim.or.jp/~ssato/mlterm/debian_bts_267294.png>
> > 
> > I am working to solve this problem, but i don't know why it
> > occurs.
> 
> It seems to be a slang's problem that do not work well 
> on a terminal which lacks a feature called "bce".
> 
> Though mlterm can mimic the feature to some extent,
> it will run a bit slowly and consume more memory in that case.
> So if you are using mlterm with TERM=mlterm,
> its bce emulation is disabled by default.
> 
> To make mlterm behave as a bce terminal, the simplest way may be
> executing mlterm with TERM=xterm. What happens if you do
>  mlterm -y=xterm
> and run mutt on it?

Unfortunately, i got the same result on mlterm -y=xterm.
It seems not to be bce problem.

I found out what was doing for setting fg/bg colors in slang.

slang's changelog said:

4. If a color called `default' is specified, the escape sequence
   to set the default color will be sent.  Be careful, not all
   terminals support this feature.  If your terminal supports it,
   e.g., rxvt, then using

         setenv COLORFGBG default

   is a good choice.

I tried to run mutt in mlterm as below.

   $ COLORFGBG=default mutt

so it works:)

Nuno,
To avoid the problem, set COLORFGBG environment variable.

Minami-san,
rxvt seems to set COLORFGBG by default. (main.c)
I'll add this feature to mlterm.

# COLORFGBG is rxvt's original extention???

--
Seiichi

Re: [Mlterm-dev-en] color problem of mutt (Re: how to use fonts)

[Nuno A. <ik...@fl...>]

On (17/10/04 18:57), Seiichi SATO wrote:
> I found out what was doing for setting fg/bg colors in slang.
> 
> slang's changelog said:
> 
> 4. If a color called `default' is specified, the escape sequence
>    to set the default color will be sent.  Be careful, not all
>    terminals support this feature.  If your terminal supports it,
>    e.g., rxvt, then using
> 
>          setenv COLORFGBG default
> 
>    is a good choice.
> 
> I tried to run mutt in mlterm as below.
> 
>    $ COLORFGBG=default mutt
> 
> so it works:)
> 
> Nuno,
> To avoid the problem, set COLORFGBG environment variable.
> 
> Minami-san,
> rxvt seems to set COLORFGBG by default. (main.c)
> I'll add this feature to mlterm.
> 
> # COLORFGBG is rxvt's original extention???


Thanks! setting the env. var. COLORFGBG makes everything behave normal again.
Another issue is with the bold colors that seem to be printed _twice_ making the
font less readable.
<URL: http://ikaro.homepage.dk/mlterm-mutt.png>
from left to right; mlterm, aterm.

Would you have any tips regarding this issue ?
Thanks,


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		Nuno Alexandre

Re: [Mlterm-dev-en] color problem of mutt (Re: how to use fonts)

[Seiichi S. <ss...@sh...>]

On Sun, Oct 17, 2004 at 04:46:44PM +0200,
 Nuno Alexandre wrote:

> > Nuno,
> > To avoid the problem, set COLORFGBG environment variable.
> 
> Thanks! setting the env. var. COLORFGBG makes everything behave normal again.
> Another issue is with the bold colors that seem to be printed _twice_ making the
> font less readable.
> <URL: http://ikaro.homepage.dk/mlterm-mutt.png>
> from left to right; mlterm, aterm.
> 
> Would you have any tips regarding this issue ?

I could not reproduce that.
Could you show me your muttrc?

-- 
Seiichi

Re: [Mlterm-dev-en] color problem of mutt (Re: how to use fonts)

[Nuno A. <ik...@fl...>]

On (18/10/04 00:08), Seiichi SATO wrote:
> On Sun, Oct 17, 2004 at 04:46:44PM +0200,
>  Nuno Alexandre wrote:
> 
> > > Nuno,
> > > To avoid the problem, set COLORFGBG environment variable.
> > 
> > Thanks! setting the env. var. COLORFGBG makes everything behave normal again.
> > Another issue is with the bold colors that seem to be printed _twice_ making the
> > font less readable.
> > <URL: http://ikaro.homepage.dk/mlterm-mutt.png>
> > from left to right; mlterm, aterm.
> > 
> > Would you have any tips regarding this issue ?
> 
> I could not reproduce that.
> Could you show me your muttrc?
> 

Its not only in mutt, but everywhere where bold fonts are used.
In vim its the same thing.
Bold colors, <BrightColor> looks very bad, and only happens in mlterm.
rxvt,aterm,eterm,urxvt-unicode all look well.
<URL: http://ikaro.homepage.dk/bold.png>
left to right; mlterm, aterm


Thanks,

-- 

		Nuno Alexandre

Re: [Mlterm-dev-en] color problem of mutt (Re: how to use fonts)

[Seiichi S. <ss...@sh...>]

On Sun, Oct 17, 2004 at 06:26:18PM +0200,
 Nuno Alexandre wrote:

> > I could not reproduce that.
> > Could you show me your muttrc?
> Its not only in mutt, but everywhere where bold fonts are used.
> In vim its the same thing.

Ok, i see.

> Bold colors, <BrightColor> looks very bad

hmm... I don't agree with that.

> rxvt,aterm,eterm,urxvt-unicode all look well.
> <URL: http://ikaro.homepage.dk/bold.png>
> left to right; mlterm, aterm

When bold font cannot be found, mlterm automatically uses twice
renderd medium font (pseudo bold font).  If you want to use only
medium fonts, specify medium fonts as bold in ~/.mlterm/*font.

ISO8859_1 = 12,-foo-bar-medium-r-normal-*-12-*-iso8859-1;
ISO8859_1_BOLD = 12,-foo-bar-medium-r-normal-*-12-*-iso8859-1;
          ^^^^               ^^^^^^

I hope this configuration is helpfull for you.

Regards,

-- 
Seiichi