Re: [mh] Insteon PLM question on X10 dim/brighten commands

[Gregg Liming <gregg@li...>]

Chadwick E. wrote:

> If you don't mind me asking, what kind of components do you run in your 
> house? 

I now exclusively use the SwitchLinc v2 and other Insteon-capable 
devices.  Originally, I had several SwitchLinc v1 devices--which are 
also preset dimmable, but don't report back local control (i.e., you 
can't tell when someone manually turns on the light).  I also know that 
many people like the Leviton X10 switches.  There is notable 
improvements in reliability and speed when shifting from x10 to Insteon 
even for the SwitchLinc v2 devices.  Since you already have the PLM, 
then there is perhaps some motivation if considering the SwitchLinc (or 
slightly cheaper--IconLink) switches.  Once you start moving to Insteon, 
however, any cheap x10 devices will cease working altogether.

I also understand from Jason and others that UPB is exceptionally 
reliable.  The build quality of those switches seem to be a bit better 
than the Insteon switches (in terms of general "feel"); but, the Insteon 
is suitable for my purposes.

Gregg

Re: [mh] Insteon PLM question on X10 dim/brighten commands

[Chadwick E. <draklor@ho...>]

I think you're right. No where does it say they can handle anything but 'dimmable', which doesn't mean they can handle the 50% or -40 status changes.
I think I may get a few other brands of components to see which look and feel I like best.
If you don't mind me asking, what kind of components do you run in your house? For that matter, I'm curious what others run in their houses if anyone would like to share.
Thanks again,
-Chad> Date: Sun, 24 Feb 2008 12:26:13 -0500> From: gregg@...> To: misterhouse-users@...> Subject: Re: [mh] Insteon PLM question on X10 dim/brighten commands> > Chadwick E. wrote:> > I copy/pasted your bogus light, then ran MH. I am using the MH GUI. I go > > into the following menu:> > Items > X10 Items > Items Table: Bogus x10 light; then selected 'on', > > 'off', '-40' and '60%'.> > Also, using the dim arrow in the web interface dims the light as expected.> > [... snip ...]> > > Ok, I think I figured part of this out. If I send the DIM command, it > > dims the light. If I sent a -40 or 50%, it does not work.> > That makes sense. AFAIK, the "generic" X10_Item doesn't support preset > dims unless explicitly set. Also, I'm pretty sure that the "cheap" > (i.e., all devices that x10 produces) lights don't support preset dims > anyway.> > Gregg> > -------------------------------------------------------------------------> This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft> Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008.> http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse0120000070mrt/direct/01/>; ________________________________________________________> To unsubscribe from this list, go to: http://sourceforge.net/mail/?group_id=1365>; 
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Re: [mh] CM 11 error

[Erik Colson <eco@ec...>]

Charles,

The script works.
the CM11 is responding on cu.usbserial
this is what I inserted in mh.private.ini :

========================================
gd=0    @ GD not installed
Sound_program =          @ Sound program not installed
tk=0          @ Tk not installed

net_mail_account <...stuff>

cm11_port=/dev/cu.usbserial

code_dir=/usr/local/misterhouse/code
data_dir=/usr/local/misterhouse/data
sound_dir=/usr/local/misterhouse/sound
========================================

so this should work isn't it ?


thanks for help

Erik

On Sun, Feb 24, 2008 at 04:30:00PM -0500, Charles Sullivan wrote:
> Erik,
> Here's a script useful primarily for quickly testing whether a CM11A
> is connected to the serial port you think it is, but it can also
> run a quick check on the basic functionality of a CM11A to send data
> to a known port.  It was written for Heyu users, but for MH just make
> sure MH is not running.

Re: [mh] CM 11 error

[Charles Sullivan <cwsulliv01@tr...>]

Erik,
Here's a script useful primarily for quickly testing whether a CM11A
is connected to the serial port you think it is, but it can also
run a quick check on the basic functionality of a CM11A to send data
to a known port.  It was written for Heyu users, but for MH just make
sure MH is not running.

One thing I don't know is whether the program "xxd" is available
on a MAC.  'xxd -g1 -c1' takes binary input and displays it as hex
grouped as single bytes in 1 column.  If not, perhaps there is a
similar utility for the MAC you could substitute.

Regards,
Charles Sullivan

--------------------- cm11a_check.sh ---------------------------
#! /bin/bash

# Display hex output from CM11A requesting time update
# Written by Charles W. Sullivan

if (($# != 1)) ; then
  echo "Usage: $0 <serial port>"
  exit 
fi

stty -F $1 4800 cs8 raw cread clocal -parenb -cstopb -echo

echo ""
echo "Make sure the heyu_relay is NOT running ('heyu stop')."
echo "Unplug the CM11A from AC power for about 5 seconds,"
echo "then plug it back in and wait for at least 5 seconds."
echo "The CM11A will start sending its clock update request"
echo "(0xa5) about once every second.  If the CM11A is connected"
echo "to port "$1", lines like this will be displayed:"
echo "  0000000: a5  ."
echo "  0000001: a5  ."
echo "  0000002: a5  ."
echo "Otherwise, it is connected to a different port."
echo " "
echo "Now waiting for input from port: "$1
cat $1 | xxd -g1 -c1
------------------------------------------------------------------


On Sun, 24 Feb 2008 21:32:03 +0100
Erik Colson <eco@...> wrote:

> Thanks for help...
> I did try the other port, same result :/
> 
> On Sun, Feb 24, 2008 at 02:39:39PM -0500, Charles Sullivan wrote:
> > 
> > USB-Serial adapters on a MAC often map to two different devices
> > in /dev.  The /dev/tty.usbserial is reported not to work.  See if
> > there is a /dev/cu.usbserial and try using that.
> > 
> > Regards,
> > Charles Sullivan
> 
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Re: [mh] CM 11 error

[Erik Colson <eco@ec...>]

Thanks for help...
I did try the other port, same result :/

On Sun, Feb 24, 2008 at 02:39:39PM -0500, Charles Sullivan wrote:
> 
> USB-Serial adapters on a MAC often map to two different devices
> in /dev.  The /dev/tty.usbserial is reported not to work.  See if
> there is a /dev/cu.usbserial and try using that.
> 
> Regards,
> Charles Sullivan

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Erik

Re: [mh] CM 11 error

[Charles Sullivan <cwsulliv01@tr...>]

USB-Serial adapters on a MAC often map to two different devices
in /dev.  The /dev/tty.usbserial is reported not to work.  See if
there is a /dev/cu.usbserial and try using that.

Regards,
Charles Sullivan


On Sun, 24 Feb 2008 20:28:21 +0100
Erik Colson <eco@...> wrote:

> Hello,
> 
> I can't make CM11 work with misterhouse on my macosx system.
> 
> This is the error I get... btw I'm sure about the port config in mh.private.ini
> Any idea what could be wrong ? Might it be the CM11 hardware also ?
> How can I check this ?
> Thanks
> 
> Code Directories:
>  - /usr/local/misterhouse/code
>  - ./../code/common
> Device::Serial could not find ioctl definitions!
> Loading other modules
> Starting setup
>  - using simple Text distance function
>  - reading previous log files
>  - archiving previous /usr/local/misterhouse/data/logs/*.log files ....
>  - read 2 trigger entries
>  - creating http            on tcp   8080 buffered
>  - creating server mhsend   on tcp   8084 buffered
>  - creating server telnet   on tcp   1234 raw
>  - creating xap_send        on udp  3639 send
>  - creating xap_hub_listen  on udp  3639 listen
>  - mh in xAP Hub mode
>  - creating xap_listen_core on udp 49152 listen
>  - creating xap_send_49152  on udp 49152 send
>  - creating xpl_send        on udp  3865 send
>  - creating xpl_listen      on udp 49153 listen
>  - creating xpl_hub_listen  on udp  3865 listen
>  - mh in xPL Hub mode
>  - creating xpl_send_49153  on udp 49153 send
>  - creating cm11 port on /dev/tty.usbserial
> disabling ioctl methods - constants not found
> Bad cm11 checksum acknowledge
> 
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[mh] CM 11 error

[Erik Colson <eco@ec...>]

Hello,

I can't make CM11 work with misterhouse on my macosx system.

This is the error I get... btw I'm sure about the port config in mh.private.ini
Any idea what could be wrong ? Might it be the CM11 hardware also ?
How can I check this ?
Thanks

Code Directories:
 - /usr/local/misterhouse/code
 - ./../code/common
Device::Serial could not find ioctl definitions!
Loading other modules
Starting setup
 - using simple Text distance function
 - reading previous log files
 - archiving previous /usr/local/misterhouse/data/logs/*.log files ....
 - read 2 trigger entries
 - creating http            on tcp   8080 buffered
 - creating server mhsend   on tcp   8084 buffered
 - creating server telnet   on tcp   1234 raw
 - creating xap_send        on udp  3639 send
 - creating xap_hub_listen  on udp  3639 listen
 - mh in xAP Hub mode
 - creating xap_listen_core on udp 49152 listen
 - creating xap_send_49152  on udp 49152 send
 - creating xpl_send        on udp  3865 send
 - creating xpl_listen      on udp 49153 listen
 - creating xpl_hub_listen  on udp  3865 listen
 - mh in xPL Hub mode
 - creating xpl_send_49153  on udp 49153 send
 - creating cm11 port on /dev/tty.usbserial
disabling ioctl methods - constants not found
Bad cm11 checksum acknowledge

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Re: [mh] Whole House Power Meter

[Brad Yarotsky <brad@ha...>]

Those questions are already in. And yes I agree.

I am going to try for a couple freebees for development if other software is an option.


Brad

> Brad,
> More TED questions.
> 1. The TED with a serial port doesn't appear in their price list.
> Is it still in production?
>
> 2. Some USB devices include a USB-Serial chip like FTDI or Prolific
> so that the device maps to a serial port.  Does the TED have that?
>
> 3. Do they release the protocol for the interface?
>
> If the answers are all NO, it's going to be a major effort developing
> a module for MH or other HA software.  If 1 or 2 are YES, it probably
> won't be too much of a problem to reverse engineer the protocol.
>
> Regards,
> Charles Sullivan
>
> On Sun, 24 Feb 2008 08:22:17 -0600 (CST)
> "Brad Yarotsky" <brad@...> wrote:
>
>> Can do
>>
>>
>> > Brad,
>> >
>> > Can you ask if they know whether it will interfer with powerline control
>> > (X10, Insteon) signals - it transmits it's data over the powerlines once a
>> > second according to the installation diagram.
>> >
>> > Jim
>> >
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: misterhouse-users-bounces@...
>> > [mailto:misterhouse-users-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Brad
>> > Yarotsky
>> > Sent: February 23, 2008 11:22 PM
>> > To: The main list for the MisterHouse home automation program
>> > Subject: Re: [mh] Whole House Power Meter
>> >
>> >
>> > I really like this device. The price is very reasonable. And they sell the
>> > parts separately.
>> >
>> > http://www.theenergydetective.com/store/accessories/
>> > http://www.theenergydetective.com/store/teds/
>> >
>> > I have some questions into the company about interfacing, I will let you
>> > know what I find out.
>> >
>> > Brad
>> >
>> >
>> >>
>> >> I'm examining this unit:
>> >>
>> >> http://www.theenergydetective.com
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>>
>> >>> Just got my power bill, it was $250 more than it should have been.
>> >>>
>> >>> Has anyone out there built anything cool for monitoring your power
>> >>> consumption for the whole house. I have found lots of products
>> >>> available with fancy displays, but I just want something that can
>> >>> fire directly into misterhouse. Maybe a a current clamp and a 1-wire
>> >>> device (DS2450) or something like that...
>> >>>
>> >>> Any thoughts?
>> >>>
>> >>> Have a good one
>> >>> Brad
>> >>>
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[mh] Kronos Athena, Picaxe, small BASIC controllers

[Bazyle <baz.butcher@nt...>]

Prompted by another thread I shought I would ask if anyone is using these
small controllers that run simple BASIC and are very easy to code and
program sing only an RS232 port - no programmer needed.
There are several in the rang of Kronos at http://www.kronosrobotics.com or
in UK http://www.hobbycontrol.co.uk/index.php
In the UK schools the 15 yr olds learn programming with the Picaxe
http://www.rev-ed.co.uk/picaxe/  range which seem to have a special very
small (cheap) one for education. These devices have an advantage over the
Kronos ones in having an interupt available.

Both have free simulators that are great -  I have spent hours trying things
out without any cost.
For anyone afraid of programming a micro like a PIC these are the thing:
1/ do not need a programmer - they are programmed directly through the RS232
2/ they have an RS232 interface so very mh friendly
3/ they are programmed in BASIC which you can learn in 5 minutes
4/  they can be reprogrammed in seconds so you can re use them for something
else
5/ they cost peanuts (actually about 1/3 the cost of a 555 timer  25 years
ago)
6/ free simulator
7/ very similar to Weeder boards but more versatile

So far, while I wait for my Kronos Athenas to arrive, I have simulated a 64
input 24 output line interface with one Athena plus some latches using a 3
byte addressing system that goes like 'Address', 'port', 'Set/Reset',
carriage return. eg A1S<cr> which is very like a Weeder interface. That has
got to be enough i/o for most houses but if not they can be daisy chained.
I have also simulated an 8 output DtoA to drive Velleman lamp dimmers but
this may need a Picaxe for the interupt feature.
baz
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Re: [mh] Whole House Power Meter

[Charles Sullivan <cwsulliv01@tr...>]

Brad,
More TED questions.
1. The TED with a serial port doesn't appear in their price list.
Is it still in production?

2. Some USB devices include a USB-Serial chip like FTDI or Prolific
so that the device maps to a serial port.  Does the TED have that?

3. Do they release the protocol for the interface?

If the answers are all NO, it's going to be a major effort developing
a module for MH or other HA software.  If 1 or 2 are YES, it probably
won't be too much of a problem to reverse engineer the protocol.

Regards,
Charles Sullivan

On Sun, 24 Feb 2008 08:22:17 -0600 (CST)
"Brad Yarotsky" <brad@...> wrote:

> Can do
> 
> 
> > Brad,
> >
> > Can you ask if they know whether it will interfer with powerline control
> > (X10, Insteon) signals - it transmits it's data over the powerlines once a
> > second according to the installation diagram.
> >
> > Jim
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: misterhouse-users-bounces@...
> > [mailto:misterhouse-users-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Brad
> > Yarotsky
> > Sent: February 23, 2008 11:22 PM
> > To: The main list for the MisterHouse home automation program
> > Subject: Re: [mh] Whole House Power Meter
> >
> >
> > I really like this device. The price is very reasonable. And they sell the
> > parts separately.
> >
> > http://www.theenergydetective.com/store/accessories/
> > http://www.theenergydetective.com/store/teds/
> >
> > I have some questions into the company about interfacing, I will let you
> > know what I find out.
> >
> > Brad
> >
> >
> >>
> >> I'm examining this unit:
> >>
> >> http://www.theenergydetective.com
> >>
> >>
> >>>
> >>> Just got my power bill, it was $250 more than it should have been.
> >>>
> >>> Has anyone out there built anything cool for monitoring your power
> >>> consumption for the whole house. I have found lots of products
> >>> available with fancy displays, but I just want something that can
> >>> fire directly into misterhouse. Maybe a a current clamp and a 1-wire
> >>> device (DS2450) or something like that...
> >>>
> >>> Any thoughts?
> >>>
> >>> Have a good one
> >>> Brad
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
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Re: [mh] Insteon PLM question on X10 dim/brighten commands

[Gregg Liming <gregg@li...>]

Chadwick E. wrote:
> I copy/pasted your bogus light, then ran MH. I am using the MH GUI. I go 
> into the following menu:
> Items > X10 Items > Items Table: Bogus x10 light; then selected 'on', 
> 'off', '-40' and '60%'.
> Also, using the dim arrow in the web interface dims the light as expected.

[... snip ...]

> Ok, I think I figured part of this out. If I send the DIM command, it 
> dims the light. If I sent a -40 or 50%, it does not work.

That makes sense.  AFAIK, the "generic" X10_Item doesn't support preset 
dims unless explicitly set.  Also, I'm pretty sure that the "cheap" 
(i.e., all devices that x10 produces) lights don't support preset dims 
anyway.

Gregg

Re: [mh] Whole House Power Meter

[Bazyle <baz.butcher@nt...>]

Why not get a secondhand meter (power companies replace them all the time
for newer models) so you can paint the spinning disc to make it easier to
read. You just stick the meter in the line on your side of the supply. 

Don't use a PIC directly - use one of the simple systems running BASIC.
eg from http://www.kronosrobotics.com or in UK
http://www.hobbycontrol.co.uk/index.php
 or picaxe from http://www.rev-ed.co.uk/picaxe/ ( this is UK based)
They
 1/ do not need a programmer - they are programmed directly through the
RS232
2/ they have an RS232 interface so very mh friendly
3/ they are programmed in BASIC which you can learn in 5 minutes
4/  they can be reprogrammed in seconds so you can re use them for something
else
5/ they cost peanuts
 I think I will start a new thread on them.....
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Re: [mh] Insteon PLM question on X10 dim/brighten commands

[Chadwick E. <draklor@ho...>]

I copy/pasted your bogus light, then ran MH. I am using the MH GUI. I go into the following menu:
Items > X10 Items > Items Table: Bogus x10 light; then selected 'on', 'off', '-40' and '60%'.
Also, using the dim arrow in the web interface dims the light as expected.
Here is what the log shows:
Sent OFF command:
02/24/08 10:01:58 AM [Insteon_PLM] Parsing serial data: 026363800602/24/08 10:01:57 AM [Insteon_PLM] Parsing serial data: 026366000602/24/08 10:01:56 AM [Insteon_PLM] Command stack size: 102/24/08 10:01:56 AM [Insteon_PLM] x10 sending code: AK as insteon msg: 0263638002/24/08 10:01:56 AM [Insteon_PLM] x10 sending code: A1 as insteon msg: 0263660002/24/08 10:01:54 AM Paused for 4 seconds
Sent 60% command:
02/24/08 10:01:48 AM [Insteon_PLM] Parsing serial data: 026300000602/24/08 10:01:47 AM [Insteon_PLM] x10 sending code: A1 as insteon msg: 0263000002/24/08 10:01:45 AM Paused for 6 seconds
Sent -40 command:
02/24/08 10:01:40 AM [Insteon_PLM] Parsing serial data: 026300000602/24/08 10:01:39 AM [Insteon_PLM] x10 sending code: A1 as insteon msg: 0263000002/24/08 10:01:37 AM Paused for 4 seconds
Sent ON command:
02/24/08 10:01:33 AM [Insteon_PLM] Parsing serial data: 026362800602/24/08 10:01:30 AM [Insteon_PLM] Parsing serial data: 026366000602/24/08 10:01:29 AM [Insteon_PLM] Command stack size: 102/24/08 10:01:29 AM [Insteon_PLM] x10 sending code: AJ as insteon msg: 0263628002/24/08 10:01:29 AM [Insteon_PLM] x10 sending code: A1 as insteon msg: 0263660002/24/08 10:01:27 AM Paused for 5 seconds
 
Ok, I think I figured part of this out. If I send the DIM command, it dims the light. If I sent a -40 or 50%, it does not work.
Heres the code from my chad.pl:
 
$palmpad1  = new  Serial_Item('XA1AJ', '1-on');$palmpad1 -> add             ('XA1AK', '1-off');$palmpad1 -> add             ('XA1AL', '1-btn'); $palmpad1 -> add             ('XA1AM', '1-dim'); $palmpad1 -> add             ('XA2AJ', '2-on');$palmpad1 -> add             ('XA2AK', '2-off');$palmpad1 -> add             ('XA3AJ', '3-on');$palmpad1 -> add             ('XA3AK', '3-off');
#I've tried these separately as individual commands inside the IF statement as well.
if (state_now $palmpad1 eq '3-on') {    set $x10_family_room_main_light ON; <-- Works    set $x10_family_room_main_light DIM; <-- Works    set $x10_family_room_main_light -40; <-- Doesn't work    set $x10_family_room_main_light 50%; <-- Doesn't work    print_log "palmpad = 3-on"; <-- Works} 
 
I am still not aware of what the pauses mean. The PLM doesn't actually pause that long. It processes commands as I enter them, but if I can get the rest working, I can live with errant pause messages in the log file.
Thanks again,
-Chad
> Date: Sun, 24 Feb 2008 07:52:15 -0500> From: gregg@...> To: misterhouse-users@...> Subject: Re: [mh] Insteon PLM question on X10 dim/brighten commands> > Quoting Chadwick E. (2/24/08 1:05 AM):> > > Here's a bit of my items.mht:> > # My Insteon PLM Interface> > INSTEON_PLM, myPLM,> > > > X10I, A8, x10_family_room_main_light, All_Lights|Family_Room, myPLM,> > don't include commas at the end of each statement> > > I've skimmed the 4 Insteon_*.pm files and nothing jumped out at me other> > than I noticed this and was wondering if it was intentional.> > Insteon_Item.pm - Package Insteon_Lamp> > Insteon_Item.pm is not used w/ the other three; ignore it.> > > > Log with debug=insteon,x10. The three sets of log messages were 2 dim> > and 1 brighten command.> > > > 02/23/08 11:55:47 PM [Insteon_PLM] Parsing serial data: 0263000006> > 02/23/08 11:55:46 PM [Insteon_PLM] x10 sending code: A8 as insteon msg:> > 02630000> > 02/23/08 11:55:44 PM Paused for 10 seconds> > > > 02/23/08 11:55:32 PM [Insteon_PLM] Parsing serial data: 0263000006> > 02/23/08 11:55:31 PM [Insteon_PLM] x10 sending code: A8 as insteon msg:> > 02630000> > 02/23/08 11:55:29 PM Paused for 4 seconds> > > > 02/23/08 11:55:12 PM [Insteon_PLM] Parsing serial data: 0263000006> > 02/23/08 11:55:11 PM [Insteon_PLM] x10 sending code: A8 as insteon msg:> > 02630000> > 02/23/08 11:55:09 PM Paused for 8 seconds> > You are missing the bright or dim commands; also, the presence of pauses> is concerning.> > I did a simple test by creating a bogus light:> > X10I, A1, bogus_x10_light, All_Lights, plm> > > ... and, then located this light in the All Lights group and proceeded> to click on the up and then down arrows; these should result in bright> and dim commands. The following log statements show correct operation:> > > 02/24/08 07:42:11 AM [Insteon_PLM] x10 sending code: A1 as insteon msg:> 02636600> 02/24/08 07:42:11 AM [Insteon_PLM] x10 sending code: AL as insteon msg:> 02636580> 02/24/08 07:42:11 AM [Insteon_PLM] Command stack size: 1> 02/24/08 07:42:11 AM [Insteon_PLM] Parsing serial data: 0263660006> 02/24/08 07:42:12 AM [Insteon_PLM] Parsing serial data: 0263658006> 02/24/08 07:42:41 AM [Insteon_PLM] x10 sending code: A1 as insteon msg:> 02636600> 02/24/08 07:42:41 AM [Insteon_PLM] x10 sending code: AM as insteon msg:> 02636480> 02/24/08 07:42:41 AM [Insteon_PLM] Command stack size: 1> 02/24/08 07:42:42 AM [Insteon_PLM] Parsing serial data: 0263660006> 02/24/08 07:42:42 AM [Insteon_PLM] Parsing serial data: 0263648006> > > So, it would seem that either something in your setup is off or whatever> mechanism that you are using to attempt to dim or brighten in mh is> wrong. If you are using code, please post it. Otherwise, perhaps> better elaborate as to how you are attempting to dim or brighten.> > Gregg> > -------------------------------------------------------------------------> This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft> Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008.> http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse0120000070mrt/direct/01/>; ________________________________________________________> To unsubscribe from this list, go to: http://sourceforge.net/mail/?group_id=1365>; 
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Re: [mh] Whole House Power Meter

[Brad Yarotsky <brad@ha...>]

Can do


> Brad,
>
> Can you ask if they know whether it will interfer with powerline control
> (X10, Insteon) signals - it transmits it's data over the powerlines once a
> second according to the installation diagram.
>
> Jim
>
> -----Original Message-----
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> Yarotsky
> Sent: February 23, 2008 11:22 PM
> To: The main list for the MisterHouse home automation program
> Subject: Re: [mh] Whole House Power Meter
>
>
> I really like this device. The price is very reasonable. And they sell the
> parts separately.
>
> http://www.theenergydetective.com/store/accessories/
> http://www.theenergydetective.com/store/teds/
>
> I have some questions into the company about interfacing, I will let you
> know what I find out.
>
> Brad
>
>
>>
>> I'm examining this unit:
>>
>> http://www.theenergydetective.com
>>
>>
>>>
>>> Just got my power bill, it was $250 more than it should have been.
>>>
>>> Has anyone out there built anything cool for monitoring your power
>>> consumption for the whole house. I have found lots of products
>>> available with fancy displays, but I just want something that can
>>> fire directly into misterhouse. Maybe a a current clamp and a 1-wire
>>> device (DS2450) or something like that...
>>>
>>> Any thoughts?
>>>
>>> Have a good one
>>> Brad
>>>
>>>
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Re: [mh] serial port permissions and group

[Jim Serack <jserack@sy...>]

I'm still running an FC2 linux.

I run misterhouse under it's own user that automatically startups up in a
vnc server session, that way I can remotely log in to the session and see
what's happening. I wrote a post a long time ago about the security
advantages.

I remember having to add the port and audio changes to the boot sequence so
the misterhouse user could write to them - can't remember offhand the actual
file I changed - I tried to look but it was a long time ago and it may have
changed but what you need to do is have the root automatically change the
permissions on each restart.

On the separate userid - here is the directory structure I use - I'm happy
with it (currently running 2.103)
------------ from a Previous post on Linux directory structure
-----------------------------------------
My objectives;

1) The ability to completely move forward AND backwards in releases in both
mh and my own code that is logically exhaustive. That is so I can use the
"production system" as development and know for a fact that I can move back
to the last production completely when I am done making mistakes in the
development mode.

2) Limit the ability for mh (and likely my own code) from doing anything
nasty to the server.

3) Make sure that the mh distribution is pure on my system so I can share
any issues or innovations with others.

How I go about doing this is as follows: I would be interested to hear from
others how they do it.

OS: linux FC 2
Disk structure: software RAID 10 including all volumes (can boot off either
drive)
Users: root (admin rights), mrhouse (regular user)
Directory structure:
/use/local/misterhouse/|
                       +misterhouse-2.96 (owned by root)
            ..........>+misterhouse-2.97 (owned by root)
            .          +misterhouse-x.xx (owned by root) 
            .          |
            .          +myhouse-1.01 (owned by mrhouse)
            .      ...>+myhouse-2.01 (owned by mrhouse)
            .      .   +myhouse-x.xx (owned by mrhouse)
            .      ... |myhouse <-- symbolic link to the active localization
            .......... |mh <-- symbolic link to the active mh distribution

mh is run from a startup script as user mrhouse in the myhouse directory
structure which points to the distribution bin/mh.

Now with the distribution being owned by another user ( in this case root)
but the process only having the regular user rights it can not change
anything in the distributions. So say I'm doing some thing experimental and
it changes some state files - I want them to be changed in the active
localization data files directory - not in the distribution so when I go
back to production I can be certain that the mh active distribution is
exactly as it came out of the box and returning to the previous myhouse
directory pointer will return the behaviour to exactly what it was before
during production.

The same with the distributions. If I upgrade and I think something is
different I can easily switch back to an earlier distribution and confirm if
that is true.

So that is why I install the distributions as root, and then work as my
regular user, and run the code as a specific regular user.

Jim

Re: [mh] Whole House Power Meter

[Jim Serack <jserack@sy...>]

Brad,

Can you ask if they know whether it will interfer with powerline control
(X10, Insteon) signals - it transmits it's data over the powerlines once a
second according to the installation diagram.

Jim

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Sent: February 23, 2008 11:22 PM
To: The main list for the MisterHouse home automation program
Subject: Re: [mh] Whole House Power Meter


I really like this device. The price is very reasonable. And they sell the
parts separately.

http://www.theenergydetective.com/store/accessories/
http://www.theenergydetective.com/store/teds/

I have some questions into the company about interfacing, I will let you
know what I find out.

Brad


>
> I'm examining this unit:
>
> http://www.theenergydetective.com
>
>
>>
>> Just got my power bill, it was $250 more than it should have been.
>>
>> Has anyone out there built anything cool for monitoring your power 
>> consumption for the whole house. I have found lots of products 
>> available with fancy displays, but I just want something that can 
>> fire directly into misterhouse. Maybe a a current clamp and a 1-wire 
>> device (DS2450) or something like that...
>>
>> Any thoughts?
>>
>> Have a good one
>> Brad
>>
>>
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Re: [mh] Insteon messages

[Gregg Liming <gregg@li...>]

Quoting Neil Cherry (2/23/08 11:17 PM):
> Gregg Liming wrote:
>> Neil Cherry wrote:
>>> I've gotten a bunch of Insteon message related to my Remote:
>>>
>>>
>>> 02/23/08 08:01:57 PM [Insteon_Device] WARN: making assumption that device is 
>>> dimmable because devcat is not yet known
>>> 02/23/08 08:01:57 PM [Insteon_Device] WARN: $Remote write_link failure: no 
>>> address could be found for device: 093631 and group: 01 and is_controller: 1
>> [ ... snip ... ]
>>
>>> The line I have in my insteon.mht fiel for the remote is:
>>>
>>> IPLL,     0a.0d.c7, Remote, Buttons, myPLM
>>>
>>> Should that be 0x.0d.c7:01 through :06 for the 6 buttons?
>>>
>>> I don't know where the 093631 is coming from 
>> It must be something that you have defined as it is not just invented.
>>
>>> and when I try to linked
>>> the remote's buttons to the PLM I'm seeing 0a09ff  That's not the addr
>>> on the remote (could Insteon made a mistake?).
>> You're not providing full logging and apparently are misinterpretting 
>> the results.
> 
> How do I turn on the full log for Insteon?
> 
> Here's the whole thing:
> 
> Display call with tk disabled (-tk 0).  Text=MisterHouse restarted 
> unexpectedly! 0
> 02/23/08 07:55:16 PM Organizer: Calendar matches target schema and does not 
> require upgrading
> 02/23/08 07:55:16 PM Organizer: Todo matches target schema and does not 
> require upgrading
> 02/23/08 07:55:16 PM Organizer: Reading updated organizer calendar file now
> 02/23/08 07:55:16 PM Evaluating code organizer_events
> 02/23/08 07:55:16 PM Organizer: Reading updated organizer todo file
> 02/23/08 07:55:16 PM Evaluating code organizer_tasks

Presumably by now all of the startup is done.  If you had "cold" started
mh, I would have expected to see something like the following messages
interleaved with your startup messages:

02/24/08 07:41:45 AM [Insteon_PLM] Parsing serial data: 02600ca66803056306
02/24/08 07:41:45 AM [Insteon_PLM] PLM id: 0ca668 firmware: 63

Note that I'm able to see the insteon address (aka id).  The absence of
such messages is concerning and makes me wonder if either you didn't
include it or you're not properly starting/restarting mh or something
else.  Can you correlate 093631 as being your PLM's address?

Re: [mh] Insteon PLM question on X10 dim/brighten commands

[Gregg Liming <gregg@li...>]

Quoting Chadwick E. (2/24/08 1:05 AM):

> Here's a bit of my items.mht:
> # My Insteon PLM Interface
> INSTEON_PLM,   myPLM,
> 
> X10I, A8, x10_family_room_main_light, All_Lights|Family_Room, myPLM,

don't include commas at the end of each statement

 > I've skimmed the 4 Insteon_*.pm files and nothing jumped out at me other
> than I noticed this and was wondering if it was intentional.
> Insteon_Item.pm - Package Insteon_Lamp

Insteon_Item.pm is not used w/ the other three; ignore it.


> Log with debug=insteon,x10. The three sets of log messages were 2 dim
> and 1 brighten command.
>  
> 02/23/08 11:55:47 PM [Insteon_PLM] Parsing serial data: 0263000006
> 02/23/08 11:55:46 PM [Insteon_PLM] x10 sending code: A8 as insteon msg:
> 02630000
> 02/23/08 11:55:44 PM Paused for 10 seconds
> 
> 02/23/08 11:55:32 PM [Insteon_PLM] Parsing serial data: 0263000006
> 02/23/08 11:55:31 PM [Insteon_PLM] x10 sending code: A8 as insteon msg:
> 02630000
> 02/23/08 11:55:29 PM Paused for 4 seconds
> 
> 02/23/08 11:55:12 PM [Insteon_PLM] Parsing serial data: 0263000006
> 02/23/08 11:55:11 PM [Insteon_PLM] x10 sending code: A8 as insteon msg:
> 02630000
> 02/23/08 11:55:09 PM Paused for 8 seconds

You are missing the bright or dim commands; also, the presence of pauses
is concerning.

I did a simple test by creating a bogus light:

X10I, A1, bogus_x10_light, All_Lights, plm


... and, then located this light in the All Lights group and proceeded
to click on the up and then down arrows; these should result in bright
and dim commands.  The following log statements show correct operation:


02/24/08 07:42:11 AM [Insteon_PLM] x10 sending code: A1 as insteon msg:
02636600
02/24/08 07:42:11 AM [Insteon_PLM] x10 sending code: AL as insteon msg:
02636580
02/24/08 07:42:11 AM [Insteon_PLM] Command stack size: 1
02/24/08 07:42:11 AM [Insteon_PLM] Parsing serial data: 0263660006
02/24/08 07:42:12 AM [Insteon_PLM] Parsing serial data: 0263658006
02/24/08 07:42:41 AM [Insteon_PLM] x10 sending code: A1 as insteon msg:
02636600
02/24/08 07:42:41 AM [Insteon_PLM] x10 sending code: AM as insteon msg:
02636480
02/24/08 07:42:41 AM [Insteon_PLM] Command stack size: 1
02/24/08 07:42:42 AM [Insteon_PLM] Parsing serial data: 0263660006
02/24/08 07:42:42 AM [Insteon_PLM] Parsing serial data: 0263648006


So, it would seem that either something in your setup is off or whatever
mechanism that you are using to attempt to dim or brighten in mh is
wrong.  If you are using code, please post it.  Otherwise, perhaps
better elaborate as to how you are attempting to dim or brighten.

Gregg

Re: [mh] X10 Receiver Decoder Error

[Charles Sullivan <cwsulliv01@tr...>]

On Sat, 23 Feb 2008 22:30:43 -0500
Troy Carpenter <troy@...> wrote:

> Hi all,
> 
> I've been revamping my system and I've been troubleshooting why my garage door 
> no longer reports open/closed events.  I have a closed contact sensor there, 
> connected to a Powerflash interface (Input: A, Mode 3).  It is supposed to be 
> sending a O15 ON when the door is closed, and O15 OFF when the door opens.
> 
> When I watch the logs, I'm seeing the following any time the Powerflash sends 
> a signal:
> 
> X10Status: Receiver Decoder Error
> 
> Very rarely the system will see a House code ON/OFF, but no unit code to go 
> with it.  Even rarer is the case that it actually works.
> 
> I have disconnected the powerflash from the sensor and moved it into the house 
> to trigger it.  No matter what plug I try it in, I still get the Receiver 
> Decode Error most of the time.  I have also tried different house codes and 
> different unit codes.  No change.
> 
> I am using a Lynx10PLC with receive power at 40%.  I have tried bumping that 
> up to 60% without change, but I also risk false collision detection at that 
> level.
> 
> Any ideas?
> 
> Thanks,
> Troy
> 

Plug an X10 lamp or appliance module into the same receptacle as the Powerflash
with the same housecode/unit address.  Manually close and open the contacts on
the Powerflash and see if the module responds.  If the module doesn't respond
to the Powerflash but does respond when when you send a signal from your Lynx,
then your Powerflash has gone south.  If vice-versa, then perhaps your Lynx
has a problem.  If it responds to both in a different receptacle than your
garage, then I'd suspect some noise source or signal attenuator on your
garage line.

Note: There have been reports that newer Powerflash units sense contact closure
with only about 1 Volt whereas older units used 5 V.  So contacts at the end of
a very long wire run with appreciable resistance may not be sensed by newer
units.

Regards,
Charles Sullivan

Re: [mh] serial port permissions and group

[Charles Sullivan <cwsulliv01@tr...>]

On Sat, 23 Feb 2008 21:32:16 -0600
"Jim Skinner" <jskinner58@...> wrote:

> I have run into some difficulty with the permissions of the serial ports under FC6.  I thought I could just change the permissions with chmod to 666 (while logged in as root).  When I logged in as a user I was able to use the port but when I cold started the PC the permissions reverted to 660 and I wasn't in the uucp group that had permission to use the ports.  What is the best way to resolve this?  Make the user part of the group uucp?  I also have heard some people make a separate user "mh" and run the misterhouse under that but apparently some don't.  What are the pros and cons of that?  One of the users of the serial port is LCDproc that will be getting info from misterhouse.

Port permissions and ownership are set at FC6 boot time in /etc/udev/

If your serial port will be dedicated to MH, change its group ownership
to the one you are putting authorized MH users into.

Regards,
Charles Sullivan

Re: [mh] Whole House Power Meter

[Charles Sullivan <cwsulliv01@tr...>]

I have a question about TED accuracy.

According to their installation diagram:
   http://www.theenergydetective.com/what/install.html
the transmitter unit monitors the current on both legs of a split-phase
electrical service but the voltage on only one leg.

Depending on the power company's transformer and the load drawn (by you
and your neighbors on the same transformer tap), the voltages on the
two legs will differ and I'm wondering how they can claim 2% accuracy.

But then again 2% of full scale (.02 x 400 Amps x 120 V = 960 Watts)
isn't that great to begin with.

Regards,
Charles Sullivan

On Sat, 23 Feb 2008 22:21:37 -0600 (CST)
"Brad Yarotsky" <brad@...> wrote:

> I really like this device. The price is very reasonable. And they sell the parts separately.
> 
> http://www.theenergydetective.com/store/accessories/
> http://www.theenergydetective.com/store/teds/
> 
> I have some questions into the company about interfacing, I will let you know what I find out.
> 
> Brad
> 
> 
> >
> > I'm examining this unit:
> >
> > http://www.theenergydetective.com
> >
> >
> >>
> >> Just got my power bill, it was $250 more than it should have been.
> >>
> >> Has anyone out there built anything cool for monitoring your
> >> power consumption for the whole house. I have found
> >> lots of products available with fancy displays, but I just want
> >> something that can fire directly into
> >> misterhouse. Maybe a a current clamp and a 1-wire device (DS2450)
> >> or something like that...
> >>
> >> Any thoughts?
> >>
> >> Have a good one
> >> Brad
> >>
> >>
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[mh] Insteon PLM question on X10 dim/brighten commands

[Chadwick E. <draklor@ho...>]

  I am using Windows2000 for my OS, running the latest SVN code of MH.
  I am starting to analyse an issue I am having (Insteon PLM not dimming/brightening), but before I dig in too deep, can anyone confirm that the Insteon PLM will dim/brighten X10 components like the LM465, or dimmer switches on a windows machine?
  If anyone can confirm, I will dig in deeper. See below for logs with debug=insteon,x10.
Here is basically what I am experiencing:
  I can get the PLM to turn on/off any light, however, it will not dim/brighten any lights. I can dim/brighten the lights locally at the switches and they work correctly so I know my lights are capable of dim/brighten. I also plugged in a TM751 tranceiver and a PalmPad remote and it will dim/brighten the lights just fine. It's only when the command comes from MH (through the PLM) that it will not dim/brighten. I tried directly in the GUI interface and from the web interface and neither work. I also wrote a code-let in my chad.pl to accept the button from the PalmPad to dim the main light, and it will not dim. I can change that same code to set the light ON or OFF and that works.
 
  BTW, to get the PLM to work on windows, I needed to set it to COM1 instead of /dev/ttyS4 (in mh.private.ini). I was thinking aobut updating the Wiki, but wanted to post here first.
# Insteon Power Line Modem (not the USB or Serial PLC)#Insteon_PLM_serial_port = /dev/ttyS4Insteon_PLM_serial_port = COM1
 
I did not create an insteon.mht, but put everything in items.mht instead. As far as a skim of the code goes, it did not look like the name mattered as it combines all the *.mht files into a single working code file at startup.
Here's a bit of my items.mht:
# My Insteon PLM InterfaceINSTEON_PLM,   myPLM,
X10I, A8, x10_family_room_main_light, All_Lights|Family_Room, myPLM,
[...snip...]
 
 
I've skimmed the 4 Insteon_*.pm files and nothing jumped out at me other than I noticed this and was wondering if it was intentional.
Insteon_Item.pm - Package Insteon_LampLine #256: (Is using 'K' intentional for off/dim/bri/bright?)    $self-> add ($id . 'J', 'on');    $self-> add ($id . 'K', 'off');    $self-> add ($id . 'K', 'dim');    $self-> add ($id . 'K', 'bri');    $self-> add ($id . 'K', 'bright');    $self-> add ($id , 'manual');    $self-> add ($id . 'STATUS', 'status');
 
 
 
Log with debug=insteon,x10. The three sets of log messages were 2 dim and 1 brighten command.
 
02/23/08 11:55:47 PM [Insteon_PLM] Parsing serial data: 026300000602/23/08 11:55:46 PM [Insteon_PLM] x10 sending code: A8 as insteon msg: 0263000002/23/08 11:55:44 PM Paused for 10 seconds
02/23/08 11:55:32 PM [Insteon_PLM] Parsing serial data: 026300000602/23/08 11:55:31 PM [Insteon_PLM] x10 sending code: A8 as insteon msg: 0263000002/23/08 11:55:29 PM Paused for 4 seconds
02/23/08 11:55:12 PM [Insteon_PLM] Parsing serial data: 026300000602/23/08 11:55:11 PM [Insteon_PLM] x10 sending code: A8 as insteon msg: 0263000002/23/08 11:55:09 PM Paused for 8 seconds
02/23/08 11:54:42 PM Setting mixer volume to 002/23/08 11:54:40 PM Evaluating code organizer_tasks02/23/08 11:54:40 PM Organizer: Reading updated organizer todo file02/23/08 11:54:40 PM Evaluating code organizer_events02/23/08 11:54:40 PM Organizer: Reading updated organizer calendar file now02/23/08 11:54:40 PM Organizer: Todo matches target schema and does not require upgrading02/23/08 11:54:40 PM Organizer: Calendar matches target schema and does not require upgrading02/23/08 11:54:40 PM Rereading .menu code files.02/23/08 11:54:40 PM [Insteon_PLM] PLM id: 0ca5f6 firmware: 6302/23/08 11:54:40 PM [Insteon_PLM] Parsing serial data: 02600ca5f60305630602/23/08 11:54:39 PM [Insteon_PLM] setting x10 xmit delay to: 0.502/23/08 11:54:39 PM [Insteon_PLM] setting default xmit delay to: 0.2502/23/08 11:54:39 PM Evaluating user code02/23/08 11:54:39 PM Reading 16 code files02/23/08 11:54:39 PM Initialized read_table_A.pl02/23/08 11:54:39 PM Translating items.mht -> C:\misterhouse\myCode/items.mhp02/23/08 11:54:39 PM Reading 1 .mht table files: items.mht02/23/08 11:54:39 PM Reading c:\misterhouse\mh.private.ini and mh.ini02/23/08 11:54:39 PM [Insteon_PLM] serial:COM1:1920002/23/08 11:54:39 PM ---------- Restart ---------- 
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks in advance,
-Chad
 
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Re: [mh] Insteon messages

[Gregg Liming <gregg@li...>]

Neil Cherry wrote:
> Gregg Liming wrote:

>> You're not providing full logging and apparently are misinterpretting 
>> the results.
> 
> How do I turn on the full log for Insteon?

I note that you read some parts of "Insteon Linking and Scenes" but 
perhaps skipped the Troubleshooting section.

debug=insteon

> 02/23/08 07:57:04 PM [Insteon_Device] WARN: queue timer on $Remote expired. 
> Attempting resend: status_request
> 02/23/08 07:57:20 PM [Insteon_Device] WARN: queue timer on $Remote expired. 
> Attempting resend: status_request
> 02/23/08 07:57:36 PM [Insteon_Device] WARN: queue timer on $Remote expired. 
> Trying next command if queued.

See my previous response wrt to making a RemoteLinc not be "deaf".  If 
you want it to work, then it must occasionally listen.  Press "dim" and 
"bright" concurrently for 10 seconds until LED blinks.

Also, until mh realizes that this device is a RemoteLinc, then it will 
keep this up indefinitely as it assumes that the device is either broken 
  or borked.  I'll update the wiki soon w/ the following; but in the 
mean-team, "short-circuit" mh's devcat scanning by appending the devcat 
to the end of the mht line:

IPLL,     0a.0d.c7:01, Remote, Buttons, myPLM, 0005

Note the use of the device button "01" and the devcat "0005"

> 02/23/08 07:57:48 PM Running: Remote link to interface
> 02/23/08 07:57:48 PM [Insteon_Device] WARN: making assumption that device is 
> dimmable because devcat is not yet known

yep--the above line in mht will solve this; or, the dim-bright combo at 
mh startup.

> 02/23/08 07:57:48 PM [Insteon_Device] WARN: $Remote write_link failure: no 
> address could be found for device: 093631 and group: 01 and is_contr
> oller: 1

So, here's the thing.... EVERYTHING related to linking in insteon 
requires that mh fully understand EVERY device's linktable.  If it isn't 
scanned, then you can't expect things to work.  This is true of any 
ha-enabled application.  So, if you didn't make the remote be non-deaf 
(I'm guessing that you didn't) *and* if all pertinent "peers" (this 
would be the controller and the responder of some link) have not already 
been "memory scanned" (this is discussed in the Troubleshooting 
section), then the link operation will not work.

> 02/23/08 07:59:30 PM Running: myPLM complete linking as responder
> 02/23/08 08:01:46 PM Running: myPLM complete linking as responder
> 02/23/08 08:01:57 PM Running: Remote link to interface
> 02/23/08 08:01:57 PM [Insteon_Device] WARN: making assumption that device is 
> dimmable because devcat is not yet known
> 02/23/08 08:01:57 PM [Insteon_Device] WARN: $Remote write_link failure: no 
> address could be found for device: 093631 and group: 01 and is_contr
> oller: 1

Given that I didn't see any attempt to display the link table, then I'm 
guessing you skipped the read on Troubleshooting and simply started 
punching buttons.

> I have a funny feeling I need to sit down and read the Insteon
> Dev docs.

Definitely, reading would help.

Re: [mh] Whole House Power Meter

[Brad Yarotsky <brad@ha...>]

I really like this device. The price is very reasonable. And they sell the parts separately.

http://www.theenergydetective.com/store/accessories/
http://www.theenergydetective.com/store/teds/

I have some questions into the company about interfacing, I will let you know what I find out.

Brad


>
> I'm examining this unit:
>
> http://www.theenergydetective.com
>
>
>>
>> Just got my power bill, it was $250 more than it should have been.
>>
>> Has anyone out there built anything cool for monitoring your
>> power consumption for the whole house. I have found
>> lots of products available with fancy displays, but I just want
>> something that can fire directly into
>> misterhouse. Maybe a a current clamp and a 1-wire device (DS2450)
>> or something like that...
>>
>> Any thoughts?
>>
>> Have a good one
>> Brad
>>
>>
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Re: [mh] Insteon messages

[Neil Cherry <ncherry@li...>]

Gregg Liming wrote:
> Neil Cherry wrote:
>> I've gotten a bunch of Insteon message related to my Remote:
>>
>>
>> 02/23/08 08:01:57 PM [Insteon_Device] WARN: making assumption that device is 
>> dimmable because devcat is not yet known
>> 02/23/08 08:01:57 PM [Insteon_Device] WARN: $Remote write_link failure: no 
>> address could be found for device: 093631 and group: 01 and is_controller: 1
> 
> [ ... snip ... ]
> 
>> The line I have in my insteon.mht fiel for the remote is:
>>
>> IPLL,     0a.0d.c7, Remote, Buttons, myPLM
>>
>> Should that be 0x.0d.c7:01 through :06 for the 6 buttons?
>>
>> I don't know where the 093631 is coming from 
> 
> It must be something that you have defined as it is not just invented.
> 
>> and when I try to linked
>> the remote's buttons to the PLM I'm seeing 0a09ff  That's not the addr
>> on the remote (could Insteon made a mistake?).
> 
> You're not providing full logging and apparently are misinterpretting 
> the results.

How do I turn on the full log for Insteon?

Here's the whole thing:

Display call with tk disabled (-tk 0).  Text=MisterHouse restarted 
unexpectedly! 0
02/23/08 07:55:16 PM Organizer: Calendar matches target schema and does not 
require upgrading
02/23/08 07:55:16 PM Organizer: Todo matches target schema and does not 
require upgrading
02/23/08 07:55:16 PM Organizer: Reading updated organizer calendar file now
02/23/08 07:55:16 PM Evaluating code organizer_events
02/23/08 07:55:16 PM Organizer: Reading updated organizer todo file
02/23/08 07:55:16 PM Evaluating code organizer_tasks
02/23/08 07:56:48 PM Running: Remote status
02/23/08 07:57:04 PM [Insteon_Device] WARN: queue timer on $Remote expired. 
Attempting resend: status_request
02/23/08 07:57:20 PM [Insteon_Device] WARN: queue timer on $Remote expired. 
Attempting resend: status_request
02/23/08 07:57:36 PM [Insteon_Device] WARN: queue timer on $Remote expired. 
Trying next command if queued.
02/23/08 07:57:48 PM Running: Remote link to interface
02/23/08 07:57:48 PM [Insteon_Device] WARN: making assumption that device is 
dimmable because devcat is not yet known
02/23/08 07:57:48 PM [Insteon_Device] WARN: $Remote write_link failure: no 
address could be found for device: 093631 and group: 01 and is_contr
oller: 1
02/23/08 07:59:30 PM Running: myPLM complete linking as responder
02/23/08 08:01:46 PM Running: myPLM complete linking as responder
02/23/08 08:01:57 PM Running: Remote link to interface
02/23/08 08:01:57 PM [Insteon_Device] WARN: making assumption that device is 
dimmable because devcat is not yet known
02/23/08 08:01:57 PM [Insteon_Device] WARN: $Remote write_link failure: no 
address could be found for device: 093631 and group: 01 and is_contr
oller: 1
02/23/08 08:02:34 PM [Insteon_PLM] Warn! Unable to locate object for source: 
0a09ff and group; 01
02/23/08 08:02:34 PM [Insteon_PLM] Warn! Unable to locate object for source: 
0a09ff and group; 01
02/23/08 08:02:37 PM [Insteon_PLM] Warn! Unable to locate object for source: 
0a09ff and group; 01
02/23/08 08:04:50 PM Running: myPLM complete linking as responder
02/23/08 08:05:02 PM [Insteon_PLM] Warn! Unable to locate object for source: 
0a09ff and group; 03
02/23/08 08:05:03 PM [Insteon_PLM] Warn! Unable to locate object for source: 
0a09ff and group; 03
02/23/08 08:05:03 PM [Insteon_PLM] Warn! Unable to locate object for source: 
0a09ff and group; 03
02/23/08 08:14:11 PM [Insteon_PLM] Warn! Unable to locate object for source: 
0a09ff and group; 01
02/23/08 08:14:11 PM [Insteon_PLM] Warn! Unable to locate object for source: 
0a09ff and group; 01
02/23/08 08:14:13 PM [Insteon_PLM] Warn! Unable to locate object for source: 
0a09ff and group; 01
02/23/08 08:14:13 PM [Insteon_PLM] Warn! Unable to locate object for source: 
0a09ff and group; 01
02/23/08 08:14:14 PM [Insteon_PLM] Warn! Unable to locate object for source: 
0a09ff and group; 01
02/23/08 08:14:16 PM [Insteon_PLM] Warn! Unable to locate object for source: 
0a09ff and group; 01
02/23/08 08:14:19 PM [Insteon_PLM] Warn! Unable to locate object for source: 
0a09ff and group; 01
02/23/08 08:14:19 PM [Insteon_PLM] Warn! Unable to locate object for source: 
0a09ff and group; 01
02/23/08 08:14:20 PM [Insteon_PLM] Warn! Unable to locate object for source: 
0a09ff and group; 01
02/23/08 08:14:20 PM [Insteon_PLM] Warn! Unable to locate object for source: 
0a09ff and group; 01
02/23/08 08:14:21 PM [Insteon_PLM] Warn! Unable to locate object for source: 
0a09ff and group; 01
02/23/08 08:14:23 PM [Insteon_PLM] Warn! Unable to locate object for source: 
0a09ff and group; 01
ESC[60G[ESC[0;31mFAILEDESC[0;39m]

That's when I rebooted. At the time I only had one $Remote and it was
in the insteon.mht file:

IPLL,     0a.0d.c7, Remote, Buttons, myPLM

The Insteon code appears to be working with the 0a.09.ff addresses
and the :03 and :06 buttons are controlling devices.

I have a funny feeling I need to sit down and read the Insteon
Dev docs.

BTW, the I no intention of assigning the buttons to 'macros'
I just wanted to see if MH recognized the buttons.

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