Re: [mh] RFXPower with a w800 ?

[declang <declan@de...>]

Bill Young wrote:
> 
> Unfortunately, this isn't a plug and play because it doesn't look like 
> anyone has had these modules before and coded them into misterhouse.
> 

OK Bill .. I *think* I understand.

As far as I know the W800 cannot receive the 48 bits, so it probably
truncates it to the 32 bits it can receive.

A bit beyond me at the moment, and it doesn't sound like anyone using
misterhouse is using the rfxcom receiver together with the rfxpower module.
That seemingly would get over the 32 bit problem, but still soemone would
need to write the perl to decode & store the data.

:(

Thanks for your input. Much Appreciated.
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Re: [mh] RFXPower with a w800 ?

[Bill Young <billyoung@co...>]

Declan,

I not familiar with the RFXcom and RFXpower devices.  However, I did a 
good chunk of the work on the current RF code.  So, let me provide a 
little input based on my understanding of what you need.

I am not sure how the W800RF32 would handle 6 byte data internally.  If 
it sends all data it gets out the serial port, then it can be parsed. 
However, the current code is designed for 4 bytes of data as that was 
what everything anyone had seen was generating at the time the code was 
written.

What would need to happen is that X10_W800.pm would have to be modified 
to send in longer strings of data into decode_rf_bytes in X10_RF.pm. 
decode_rf_bytes could then be modified to chew off as many bytes as 
necessary and return the number of bytes it used.  decode_rf_bytes would 
have to look at the first few bytes and determine that the data it is 
seeing is data from an RFXpower device.

As a side affect, if decode_rf_bytes is modified to take a variable 
number of bytes.  Some similar changes as were made to X10_W800.pm would 
need to be made to X10_MR26.pm would need to be made.  Though, they 
would be just be minimal changes to handle the new calling convention as 
the MR26 wouldn't really be able to process this data.

Then, device specific module for the RFXpower module would need to be 
written that completely parsed the data.  This would be done like the 
other X10_RF_*.pm modules.

The data from the RFXpower module sounds like it is going to represent a 
number as opposed to a state like ON or OFF.  So, a way to present the 
information to the rest of the application would need to be devised. 
For example, for the security modules (parsed in X10_RF_security.pm) set 
the state of an RF_Item (handled in RF_Item.pm).

If you wanted to define this item in one of the table formats (as 
opposed to just manually creating the object in your user code), then 
read_table_A.pl and read_table_xml.pl would have to be modified.

Unfortunately, this isn't a plug and play because it doesn't look like 
anyone has had these modules before and coded them into misterhouse.

Bill

declang <declan@...> wrote on 05/10/07 04:52:
> I added an RFXpower module to monitor my power usage.
> 
> Problem is, my w800 receiver only takes 32 bits, but the rfxcom transmits
> and extra 2 bytes (1 data and one of packet type & parity check)
> 
> In my logs, I'm seeing the following.  I'm assuming the rfxpower is
> transmitting this data, every 10 minutes, but I'm lost on how to handle it.
> 
> 05/10/07 10:31:31 AM W800: bad initial checksum: 10011100 01001001 00000000
> 00001111
> 05/10/07 10:31:31 AM W800: bad initial checksum: 01001001 00000000 00001111
> 10011100
> 05/10/07 10:31:31 AM W800: bad initial checksum: 00000000 00001111 10011100
> 01001001
> 05/10/07 10:41:44 AM W800: bad initial checksum: 10011100 01000101 00000000
> 00001111
> 05/10/07 10:41:44 AM W800: bad initial checksum: 01000101 00000000 00001111
> 10011100
> 05/10/07 10:41:44 AM W800: bad initial checksum: 00000000 00001111 10011100
> 01000101
> 05/10/07 10:51:56 AM W800: bad initial checksum: 10011100 01001101 00000000
> 00001111
> 05/10/07 10:51:56 AM W800: bad initial checksum: 01001101 00000000 00001111
> 10011100
> 05/10/07 10:51:56 AM W800: bad initial checksum: 00000000 00001111 10011100
> 01001101
> 05/10/07 11:02:07 AM W800: bad initial checksum: 10011100 11111101 00000000
> 00001111
> 05/10/07 11:02:08 AM W800: bad initial checksum: 11111101 00000000 00001111
> 10011100
> 05/10/07 11:02:08 AM W800: bad initial checksum: 00000000 00001111 10011100
> 11111101
> 05/10/07 11:12:16 AM W800: bad initial checksum: 10011100 11010011 00000000
> 00001111
> 05/10/07 11:12:16 AM W800: bad initial checksum: 11010011 00000000 00001111
> 10011100
> 05/10/07 11:12:16 AM W800: bad initial checksum: 00000000 00001111 10011100
> 11010011
> 05/10/07 11:22:27 AM W800: bad initial checksum: 10011100 00011011 00000000
> 00001111
> 05/10/07 11:22:27 AM W800: bad initial checksum: 00011011 00000000 00001111
> 10011100
> 05/10/07 11:22:27 AM W800: bad initial checksum: 00000000 00001111 10011100
> 00011011
> 
> I should get 6 bytes transmitted, so am I seeing this as 4 bytes + 2 carried
> forward to next line, or would the extra 2 bytes just vanish ?
> 
> To complicate things further, I don't even know if the rfxcom thing is
> working or not. 
> I guess it is, as I've seen the "bad checksum" pop up immediately when I
> press the button on the rfxpower module to transmit its value, and it
> "could" be set for 10 minutes transmit interval, not sure.
> 
> Any ideas / suggestions ?
> 
> I googled for ages, hoping someone had the same problem, or had even used
> teh rfxpower module with an rfxcom receiver, but cant find anything.
> 
> Thanks.

Re: [mh] Automating exterior window sunshade...

[Rick Bolen <rbolen@ca...>]

Jim and Greg (and others who have Somfy motorized shades\awning),

Is the Somfy motorized device "universal" so it can be added to "any" shade,
or are they only bundled with specific shade manufacturers.

Thanks,

Rick


> -----Original Message-----
> From: misterhouse-users-bounces@...
> [mailto:misterhouse-users-bounces@...]On Behalf Of Jim
> Serack
> Sent: Monday, May 07, 2007 3:34 PM
> To: 'The main list for the MisterHouse home automation program'
> Subject: Re: [mh] Automating exterior window sunshade...
>
>
>
> I have an automated awning that is based on somfy motor and controls. I
> built an rf sensor/sendor for awning position out of a radioshack
> DS-10A X10
> security sensor, and use an additional somfy rf transmitter connected to a
> relay board to have mrhouse send awning position controls.
>
> The automation I have is not for the heat but to manage the awning in the
> wind and rain, adding to the routines to control extension for sun shading
> would not be that difficult.
>
> Jim
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: misterhouse-users-bounces@...
> [mailto:misterhouse-users-bounces@...] On Behalf Of
> satz@...
> Sent: May 7, 2007 1:54 PM
> To: The main list for the MisterHouse home automation program
> Subject: Re: [mh] Automating exterior window sunshade...
>
>
> I have two rows of outside shades for some western facing
> windows. They do a
> great job of helping keep the light and heat down when you need them. The
> controls are by Somfy. They had an option to add contact closure for open
> and close. There is a safety built in so you can't open and close them
> simultaneously thus burning out the motor. I get a fair bit of wind so I
> only bring them down manually. Mine have to be taken apart to
> untangle them.
>
> Thanks,
> Greg
>
> >
> > Has anyone automated a window sunshade to revent heat gain from the
> > sun?
> >
> > I have a window that can take in alot of sun, and I want to screen it
> > from the outside.
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Rick Bolen
>
>
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Re: [mh] X10 controlling amplifier for speech and audio

[Gregg Liming <gregg@li...>]

Quoting Andreas Svensson (5/11/07 9:46 AM):
> If I add the following to items.mht it dosen't say the:"WARNING! PA Zones were
> not found!":
> PA,         A1,     hall_pa,               Hall,        weeder, X10
> 

Then, why not leave it in items.mht?

BTW: Until you get all zoning working, I would suggest changing "Hall"
to be "all|default".  Then change/add "Hall".

> But if the pa.mht is present it says:
> Table format not recognized: file=pa.mht mhp_file=./../mainhouse-code/pa.mhp.
> 
> --- start pa.mht ---
> #
> # Type    Address   Name           Groups               Serial Name          Other
> #
> PA,         A1,     hall_pa,               Hall,        weeder, X10
> --- end pa.mht---

I don't see the following line that should appear at the top of your mht
file:

Format = A

> --- start pa.mhp ---
> #
> #@ Do NOT edit this file.  It was auto-generated from pa.mht.
> #
> # Category = Other
> --- end pa.mhp---

Well, clearly you don't have any zones defined as your pa.mhp is "empty"

Re: [mh] X10 controlling amplifier for speech and audio

[Andreas Svensson <dj@ku...>]

If I add the following to items.mht it dosen't say the:"WARNING! PA Zones were
not found!":
PA,         A1,     hall_pa,               Hall,        weeder, X10

But if the pa.mht is present it says:
Table format not recognized: file=pa.mht mhp_file=./../mainhouse-code/pa.mhp.

--- start pa.mht ---
#
# Type    Address   Name           Groups               Serial Name          Other
#
PA,         A1,     hall_pa,               Hall,        weeder, X10
--- end pa.mht---

--- start pa.mhp ---
#
#@ Do NOT edit this file.  It was auto-generated from pa.mht.
#
# Category = Other
--- end pa.mhp---

The only thing i want is to have a X10 applience to turn on when speech or
audio is played. And off when finnished...
Thanks for your help.. /Andreas

On Fri, 11 May 2007 08:00:56 -0400, Gregg Liming wrote
> Quoting Andreas Svensson (5/11/07 7:19 AM):
> > I tried this, on startup Misterhouse says:
> > WARNING! PA Zones were not found! Your *.mht file probably dosen't list the PA
> > zones correctly.
> > 
> > I have a PA.mht in my code directory.
> > It contains the example from pa_control.pl
> > Have i missed something?
> 
> Perhaps you could post parts of your PA.mht and resulting PA.mhp?
> 
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Re: [mh] X10 controlling amplifier for speech and audio

[Gregg Liming <gregg@li...>]

Quoting Andreas Svensson (5/11/07 7:19 AM):
> I tried this, on startup Misterhouse says:
> WARNING! PA Zones were not found! Your *.mht file probably dosen't list the PA
> zones correctly.
> 
> I have a PA.mht in my code directory.
> It contains the example from pa_control.pl
> Have i missed something?

Perhaps you could post parts of your PA.mht and resulting PA.mhp?

Re: [mh] X10 controlling amplifier for speech and audio

[Andreas Svensson <dj@ku...>]

I tried this, on startup Misterhouse says:
WARNING! PA Zones were not found! Your *.mht file probably dosen't list the PA
zones correctly.

I have a PA.mht in my code directory.
It contains the example from pa_control.pl
Have i missed something?
/Andreas

On Thu, 10 May 2007 17:03:21 -0400, Gregg Liming wrote
> Hi Andreas,
> 
> Quoting Andreas Svensson (5/9/07 2:41 PM):
> 
> > I´m new here, got misterhouse running for a while but haven't got the audio
> > controlled as i want.
> > Is there a easy way to send a X10 command to turn on a appliance before
> > speech, and off after...
> > Probably needs a short delay between "on" and speech.
> 
> I would suggest looking at code/common/pa_control.pl
> 
> The bottom contains examples for mht entries although they are for
> weeder boards.  I haven't personally used x10 devices in this manner,
> but code definitely supports them.
> 
> Gregg
> 
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