MisterHouse: Home Automation with Perl

here's something interesting that i stumbled upon that seems apropos:

http://labs.google.com/keys/index.html

s:r
scott reston
scott@...
http://scott.therestons.com/

even easier than that would be to use the "taborder" modifier. this'll let you choose the tab order for page elements...

s:r

On Fri, 31 May 2002 11:46:21 -0700, David Norwood wrote:

>That is interesting.  I can imagine modifying Bruce's menu web interface so
>that the first button in each row has a unique access key and the keys are
>always in the same order (alt-a, alt-b, etc.).  Then you have some code that
>intercepts the infrared signals and keeps track of the current row.  When
>you send a down arrow, it figures out the access key for the next row and
>sends that to IE.  If you hit right arrow, it sends a Tab.  Left arrow sends
>Shift-Tab.  And a button for Enter.
>
>Okay, I know it's a hack.

> > on IE, hitting Alt-N would select this input field. this may or may not be
> useful. perhaps one of the smarter remotes can send the IR equivalent of an
> Alt-N combination...

BTW, this probably doesn't help your discussion but
it's something I thought about the other day.

One of my audrey's suffered tragically in a lightning
storm.  I've bought a couple more but I noticed the
old keyboard sitting around... It's IR.

I don't know how to use it, but I was thinking, it
shouldn't be too hard to, say, write a driver for
SliMP3 so I could type things at my stereo.  Well,
if I had a SliMP3 anyway...
--
Paul Chamberlain, tif@...

Tim Musson(Tim@...)@Fri, May 31, 2002 at 10:36:30AM -0400:
> Hey Ron,
> 
> My MUA believes you used (X-Mailer not set)
> to write the following on Friday, May 24, 2002 at 5:21:44 PM.
> 
> RK> Bruce,
> 
> RK> There is an updated dailystrips available at
> RK> http://dailystrips.sourceforge.net/
> 
> How would I automate this on Win32?
> I have been trying the AT tool, but after about 50 variations...

Hi Tim,

I guess by using MisterHouse, look at the codefile in
code/bruce called comic_dailystrips.pl

But there are some Win32 issues, browse through bin/dailystrips
for those... I'm on UNIX so i have no idea if it work without
modification.

Good luck.

Ron.

> 
> -- 
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> Windows 2000 5.0.2195 (Service Pack 2)
> I'm planning to be spontaneous tomorrow.
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________________________
> 
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That is interesting.  I can imagine modifying Bruce's menu web interface so
that the first button in each row has a unique access key and the keys are
always in the same order (alt-a, alt-b, etc.).  Then you have some code that
intercepts the infrared signals and keeps track of the current row.  When
you send a down arrow, it figures out the access key for the next row and
sends that to IE.  If you hit right arrow, it sends a Tab.  Left arrow sends
Shift-Tab.  And a button for Enter.

Okay, I know it's a hack.

----- Original Message -----
From: "scott reston" <scott@...>
To: "misterhouse folks" <misterhouse-users@...>
Sent: Friday, May 31, 2002 10:41 AM
Subject: Re: [misterhouse-users] Making on screen GUI for MH

> something to chew on - i do a lot of web work for universities and such
where i'm required to implement ADA compliancy (easy to read/nav with screen
readers, etc). a little
> known feature of IE (not sure about NS) is that you can apply a modifer to
form elements to enable selecting them by hot-key. for instance:
>
> <input type="text" name="foo" accesskey="N">
>
> on IE, hitting Alt-N would select this input field. this may or may not be
useful. perhaps one of the smarter remotes can send the IR equivalent of an
Alt-N combination...
>
>
> s:r
> scott reston
> scott@...
> http://scott.therestons.com/
>
> On Fri, 31 May 2002 18:08:42 +0200, Robert Rozman wrote:
>
> >Hello,
> >
> >thanks for response. I thought of that chance. The problem is that I'd
like
> >to do that on screen (viewing the whole thing on TV with TV remote in my
> >hand), so still I didn't figured how to control web interface via
keyboard.
> >I know this could be made with keyboard on IE, but traversing isn't as
easy
> >as it is on example programs I defined.
> >
> >With LCD menus we could do that cause interacting with Tk window is a lot
> >easier. So at the moment comfort browsing web page with IR remote is the
> >problem.
> >
> >I tried already to control IE from Perl (like starting browser at some
> >specified address, but IE keeps asking non relevant questions when you're
> >off line - like would you like to go online, etc - and that messes up
view
> >of web page).
> >
> > On the other hand I fully agree that web page is one of the best all
round
> >solutions.
> >So I'm prepared to put some effort in it.
> >
> >Any opinion ?
> >
> >Regards,
> >
> >Robert Rozman
> >rozman@...
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "Bruce Winter" <bruce@...>
> >To: "Misterhouse-Users" <misterhouse-users@...>
> >Sent: 31. maj 2002 15:38
> >Subject: RE: [misterhouse-users] Making on screen GUI for MH
> >
> >
> >> > for a longer time I'm thinking about on screen gui for tv-out
> >> > oriented Misterhouse
> >> > computers, so MH could be run on thin clients all over house with
> >> > nice on screen
> >> > guis, that could be browsed over few keystrokes on IR remote
> >> > (possibly over TV card
> >> > on computer) or keyboard or any remote control device or network.
> >> >
> >> > ...
> >> >
> >> > So questions and thoughts about implementation that arise :
> >> > - Could something similar be done in TK (that would mean same GUI
> >> > under different
> >> > OSes),
> >> > - Could we add some formatting directives to  LCD menu system to
cancel
> >> > preformatting for LCD and maybe formatting menu entries into rows
?...)
> >> > - Could we use Walking menus for this (through tk interface ) ?
> >> >
> >> > I'd like to hear some opinions or info about any effort of doing
> >> > something similar.
> >>
> >> Do you think we could do what you want with a web interface?   In 2.68,
I
> >> re-wrote the web menu interface.  If you have not tried it out yet, you
> >can
> >> browse ours here:
> >>
> >>  http://misterhouse.net:8080/bin/menu.pl
> >>
> >> It is only simple buttons, but it does allow for pretty quick
navigation
> >up
> >> and down menus.   Pretty easy to update and very quick debuging, as the
> >> web/bin code is evaluated on every use.   We could add icons to the
> >buttons,
> >> maybe allowing for a icon directive in the menu  files.   Right now I
> >simply
> >> distinguish 2 types of buttons.   Those with further menus under them,
and
> >> those that will execute an action (those get a simple frame drawn
around
> >> them).
> >>
> >> Bruce
> >>
> >>
> >> _______________________________________________________________
> >>
> >> Don't miss the 2002 Sprint PCS Application Developer's Conference
> >> August 25-28 in Las Vegas -- http://devcon.sprintpcs.com/adp/index.cfm
> >>
> >> ________________________________________________________
> >> To unsubscribe from this list, go to:
> >http://sourceforge.net/mail/?group_id=1365
> >>
> >
> >
> >_______________________________________________________________
> >
> >Don't miss the 2002 Sprint PCS Application Developer's Conference
> >August 25-28 in Las Vegas -- http://devcon.sprintpcs.com/adp/index.cfm
> >
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> >
> >
>
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________________________
>
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> August 25-28 in Las Vegas -- http://devcon.sprintpcs.com/adp/index.cfm
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If anyone is using MCI's web-based voicemail (I know it's available with
their new "The Neighborhood" promotion, http://www.theneighborhood.com, I'm
assuming its available for others as well), it can rather easily be tagged
in where the "Voicemail" button shows up under the IA5 interface.  Just edit
web/ia5/phone/menu.shtml as follows... 

Find this line:
<a href='voicemail.shtml'><img src="images/voicemails.gif" alt='Voice mail'
border=0></a><br>

And replace it with the following 6 lines:
<form method="POST" ACTION='http://messagecenter.mci.com/secure/login.jsp';
NAME="login_form">
<input type="hidden" size="12" name="partnername" value="">
    <input type="hidden" size="10" name="user_name"
value="YOUR-10-DIGIT-PHONE-NUMBER">
    PIN:<input type="password" size="4" name="password">
<input type="image" src="images/voicemails.gif" border=0 value="Submit"
name="submit" border=0 alt="Submit">
</form>

Note that you need to enter your 10-digit phone number where specified.
Also, you could remove a step by setting the password box to type="hidden"
value="<4-digit pin>" but if you're exposing the page to the outside world,
you'll need to tweak something to make the voicemail button only work when
authorized is true.

-Jeff

-----Original Message-----
From: misterhouse-users-admin@...
[mailto:misterhouse-users-admin@...] On Behalf Of Ryan
Erickson
Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2002 9:37 PM
To: Gaetan linny Lord
Cc: misterhouse-users@...
Subject: Re: [misterhouse-users] Socket_Item question

The problem isn't that the program terminates.  It just stops returning
requests, and jumps to 90+% CPU usage.  The PID is still there, and the
socket itself still accepts a connection.  It just doesn't do anything, and
doesn't reply with the '.'.

Since it's still running, I need to connect to it to see if it's still
responding.

Thanks.

Ryan

----- Original Message -----
From: "Gaetan linny Lord" <gaetan@...>
To: "Ryan Erickson" <ryan.erickson@...>
Cc: <misterhouse-users@...>
Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2002 8:31 PM
Subject: Re: [misterhouse-users] Socket_Item question

> Hi Ryan
>
> What I would personally is use the unix program "pidof", probably in 
> /sbin directory. On my redhat machine, it's part of the 
> SysVinit-2.84-2
package.
>
> So, with only one command , you could test if a process is running or 
> not
>
> When the process doesn't exist, there is no value return
> and the return code from the command is 1
> @gotlib% /sbin/pidof aa
/tmp/RhUpdate
>
> @gotlib% echo $?
/tmp/RhUpdate
> 1
>
>
> When there is a process running, the number return is the process ID 
> of the running process and the return code from the pidof command is 0 
> @gotlib% /sbin/pidof httpd
/tmp/RhUpdate
> 21728 20606 729 727 726 725 724 723 722 721 718
> @gotlib% echo $?
/tmp/RhUpdate
> 0
>
>
> You could then write a little piece of code, with the perl "system"
command,
> or with the backtick "`" command
>
> Just my 2C tips
>
>
> On Tue, May 28, 2002 at 01:44:23PM -0600, Ryan Erickson wrote:
> > Hi all,
> >
> > I'm new to Perl, and I'm having a problem with Socket_Item.  More 
> > like a question, I guess, since I don't know enough yet to have a 
> > problem...
:)
> >
> > I would like to write a monitor to restart a process that dies on my
Linux
> > box.  The process allows for a local incoming telnet connection, and 
> > if
you
> > send it any data, it returns a '.' on a line by itself.  I figure 
> > that
if I
> > create a socket item, and send a '\n' to the server, and don't 
> > receive a
'.'
> > back, I know to reboot the process.
> >
> > I'm having a tough time figuring out what to do after creating the 
> > Socket_Item.  Does Socket_Item time out if it doesn't receive a 
> > reply?
How
> > can I tell if it's timed out?  Should I use send_expect, or some 
> > other
way?
> >
> > The server in question populates my temperature database, so when 
> > it's
not
> > working, my temperature graph at: 
> > http://erickson.myip.org/temperature
> > bombs...
> >
> > Here's what I've got so far --  not much!:
> >
> > if ($New_Minute) {
> >
> >     $ia_server = new  Socket_Item(undef, undef, 'localhost:9034',
'iasvr',
> > 'tcp', 'record');
> >
> > # How can I timeout waiting for socket?
> > # because if I timeout, I should kill and restart process...
> >
> >     if (active $ia_server)
> >     {
> >         print "ia server Alive";
> >     }
> >     else
> >     {
> >         print "ia server Dead... Restarting...";
> >     }
> > }
> >
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Ryan Erickson
> > mh@...
> > http://erickson.myip.org
> >
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________________________
> >
> > Don't miss the 2002 Sprint PCS Application Developer's Conference 
> > August 25-28 in Las Vegas -- 
> > http://devcon.sprintpcs.com/adp/index.cfm
> >
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something to chew on - i do a lot of web work for universities and such where i'm required to implement ADA compliancy (easy to read/nav with screen readers, etc). a little 
known feature of IE (not sure about NS) is that you can apply a modifer to form elements to enable selecting them by hot-key. for instance:

<input type="text" name="foo" accesskey="N">

on IE, hitting Alt-N would select this input field. this may or may not be useful. perhaps one of the smarter remotes can send the IR equivalent of an Alt-N combination...

s:r
scott reston
scott@...
http://scott.therestons.com/

On Fri, 31 May 2002 18:08:42 +0200, Robert Rozman wrote:

>Hello,
>
>thanks for response. I thought of that chance. The problem is that I'd like
>to do that on screen (viewing the whole thing on TV with TV remote in my
>hand), so still I didn't figured how to control web interface via keyboard.
>I know this could be made with keyboard on IE, but traversing isn't as easy
>as it is on example programs I defined.
>
>With LCD menus we could do that cause interacting with Tk window is a lot
>easier. So at the moment comfort browsing web page with IR remote is the
>problem.
>
>I tried already to control IE from Perl (like starting browser at some
>specified address, but IE keeps asking non relevant questions when you're
>off line - like would you like to go online, etc - and that messes up view
>of web page).
>
> On the other hand I fully agree that web page is one of the best all round
>solutions.
>So I'm prepared to put some effort in it.
>
>Any opinion ?
>
>Regards,
>
>Robert Rozman
>rozman@...
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Bruce Winter" <bruce@...>
>To: "Misterhouse-Users" <misterhouse-users@...>
>Sent: 31. maj 2002 15:38
>Subject: RE: [misterhouse-users] Making on screen GUI for MH
>
>
>> > for a longer time I'm thinking about on screen gui for tv-out
>> > oriented Misterhouse
>> > computers, so MH could be run on thin clients all over house with
>> > nice on screen
>> > guis, that could be browsed over few keystrokes on IR remote
>> > (possibly over TV card
>> > on computer) or keyboard or any remote control device or network.
>> >
>> > ...
>> >
>> > So questions and thoughts about implementation that arise :
>> > - Could something similar be done in TK (that would mean same GUI
>> > under different
>> > OSes),
>> > - Could we add some formatting directives to  LCD menu system to cancel
>> > preformatting for LCD and maybe formatting menu entries into rows ?...)
>> > - Could we use Walking menus for this (through tk interface ) ?
>> >
>> > I'd like to hear some opinions or info about any effort of doing
>> > something similar.
>>
>> Do you think we could do what you want with a web interface?   In 2.68, I
>> re-wrote the web menu interface.  If you have not tried it out yet, you
>can
>> browse ours here:
>>
>>  http://misterhouse.net:8080/bin/menu.pl
>>
>> It is only simple buttons, but it does allow for pretty quick navigation
>up
>> and down menus.   Pretty easy to update and very quick debuging, as the
>> web/bin code is evaluated on every use.   We could add icons to the
>buttons,
>> maybe allowing for a icon directive in the menu  files.   Right now I
>simply
>> distinguish 2 types of buttons.   Those with further menus under them, and
>> those that will execute an action (those get a simple frame drawn around
>> them).
>>
>> Bruce
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________________________
>>
>> Don't miss the 2002 Sprint PCS Application Developer's Conference
>> August 25-28 in Las Vegas -- http://devcon.sprintpcs.com/adp/index.cfm
>>
>> ________________________________________________________
>> To unsubscribe from this list, go to:
>http://sourceforge.net/mail/?group_id=1365
>>
>
>
>_______________________________________________________________
>
>Don't miss the 2002 Sprint PCS Application Developer's Conference
>August 25-28 in Las Vegas -- http://devcon.sprintpcs.com/adp/index.cfm
>
>________________________________________________________
>To unsubscribe from this list, go to: http://sourceforge.net/mail/?group_id=1365
>
>

Robert,
   With Bruce's recent changes to the telnet.pl file, I am now able to get 
responses from commands (eg: list x10 items). I am in the process of 
writing a program that connects to MH on the telnet port, parses the list 
of x10 items, then with a primitive GUI, lists the devices, allowing their 
state to be changed, etc. The more the telnet server can be enhanced, the 
more I can program into this code.
The client software can then run on any computer on the network (or 
internet, if you dare) and control lights with an actual application. 
Sorry guys, I'm all for Linux, but don't have programming experience in 
Linux. So... <cringe> I'm writing it in VB. I'll probably make an OCX or a 
class out of it, and create a sample project that I can distribute to 
those wishing to take it further. 

This isn't totally in line with what you're doing, but similar enough that 
I had to respond.

Steve

On Fri, 31 May 2002, Robert Rozman wrote:

> 
> Hello,
> 
> 
> for a longer time I'm thinking about on screen gui for tv-out oriented Misterhouse
> computers, so MH could be run on thin clients all over house with nice on screen
> guis, that could be browsed over few keystrokes on IR remote (possibly over TV card
> on computer) or keyboard or any remote control device or network.
> 
> Currently I'm using TK window text window made out of LCD menus for Misterhouse. But
> the lack of this is that this is not so graphically attractive, and texts get
> different kind of preformatting (abbreviation with '>', choice covered with '#',
> ...).
> 
> Another thing I'm thinking about is Tk_photos file, where we can watch photos on
> screen.
> 
> I've looked over and found some interesting programs (wins only, for Linux don't
> know of something similar), that could be maybe incorporated into MH or could be
> taken as an example:
> http://www.squareeight.com/software/development/musicbox.shtml
> http://www.media-box.org
> 
> There is also a guy who rewrote musicbox sources in mediabox style:
> http://home.swbell.net/yeargan/MusicBox-MB-003.zip
> 
> So questions and thoughts about implementation that arise :
> - Could something similar be done in TK (that would mean same GUI under different
> OSes),
> - Could we add some formatting directives to  LCD menu system to cancel
> preformatting for LCD and maybe formatting menu entries into rows ?...)
> - Could we use Walking menus for this (through tk interface ) ?
> 
> I'd like to hear some opinions or info about any effort of doing something similar.
> 
> Thanks in advance,
> 
> regards,
> 
> Robert Rozman
> 
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________________________
> 
> Don't miss the 2002 Sprint PCS Application Developer's Conference
> August 25-28 in Las Vegas -- http://devcon.sprintpcs.com/adp/index.cfm
> 
> ________________________________________________________
> To unsubscribe from this list, go to: http://sourceforge.net/mail/?group_id=1365
> 

-- 

Hello,

thanks for response. I thought of that chance. The problem is that I'd like
to do that on screen (viewing the whole thing on TV with TV remote in my
hand), so still I didn't figured how to control web interface via keyboard.
I know this could be made with keyboard on IE, but traversing isn't as easy
as it is on example programs I defined.

With LCD menus we could do that cause interacting with Tk window is a lot
easier. So at the moment comfort browsing web page with IR remote is the
problem.

I tried already to control IE from Perl (like starting browser at some
specified address, but IE keeps asking non relevant questions when you're
off line - like would you like to go online, etc - and that messes up view
of web page).

 On the other hand I fully agree that web page is one of the best all round
solutions.
So I'm prepared to put some effort in it.

Any opinion ?

Regards,

Robert Rozman
rozman@...
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bruce Winter" <bruce@...>
To: "Misterhouse-Users" <misterhouse-users@...>
Sent: 31. maj 2002 15:38
Subject: RE: [misterhouse-users] Making on screen GUI for MH

> > for a longer time I'm thinking about on screen gui for tv-out
> > oriented Misterhouse
> > computers, so MH could be run on thin clients all over house with
> > nice on screen
> > guis, that could be browsed over few keystrokes on IR remote
> > (possibly over TV card
> > on computer) or keyboard or any remote control device or network.
> >
> > ...
> >
> > So questions and thoughts about implementation that arise :
> > - Could something similar be done in TK (that would mean same GUI
> > under different
> > OSes),
> > - Could we add some formatting directives to  LCD menu system to cancel
> > preformatting for LCD and maybe formatting menu entries into rows ?...)
> > - Could we use Walking menus for this (through tk interface ) ?
> >
> > I'd like to hear some opinions or info about any effort of doing
> > something similar.
>
> Do you think we could do what you want with a web interface?   In 2.68, I
> re-wrote the web menu interface.  If you have not tried it out yet, you
can
> browse ours here:
>
>  http://misterhouse.net:8080/bin/menu.pl
>
> It is only simple buttons, but it does allow for pretty quick navigation
up
> and down menus.   Pretty easy to update and very quick debuging, as the
> web/bin code is evaluated on every use.   We could add icons to the
buttons,
> maybe allowing for a icon directive in the menu  files.   Right now I
simply
> distinguish 2 types of buttons.   Those with further menus under them, and
> those that will execute an action (those get a simple frame drawn around
> them).
>
> Bruce
>
>
> _______________________________________________________________
>
> Don't miss the 2002 Sprint PCS Application Developer's Conference
> August 25-28 in Las Vegas -- http://devcon.sprintpcs.com/adp/index.cfm
>
> ________________________________________________________
> To unsubscribe from this list, go to:
http://sourceforge.net/mail/?group_id=1365
>

Hi all,
well while watching geek TV last night ( The Screen Savers )they had a small 
piece on adding a web counter to your Web pages.  I thought it might be a 
nice addition to one of my pages to see if anyone else besides myself was 
using it, it's written in Perl and I included a Web link to the story and 
attached my code.  Now, they don't work, I'm getting the "this page has been 
viewed times"but it's not inserting the number.  I've tried several versions 
of this include,virtual, file, variable, but can't seem to get it right. Both 
counter _ code.pl and count.txt are located in the/Web/bin directory.

This page has been viewed  
times.

I'm running on Windows and the story  talks about setting the permissions for 
the text file I'm wondering if this may be where I went wrong I just opened a 
new document in notepad named count and put the No. 1 in it, and saved it.
I'm sure it's a simple problem and one of you code gurus will look at it and 
say here's the problem in five seconds.
So thanks for any help you can give me, and attached is the code in case 
someone else would like to have it. Unfortunately, I can't take credit for it 
that belongs to Mr. Leo Laport of the Screen Savers.

http://www.techtv.com/screensavers/answerstips/story/0,24330,3386672,00.html

Thanks,
Mark

Hey Ron,

My MUA believes you used (X-Mailer not set)
to write the following on Friday, May 24, 2002 at 5:21:44 PM.

RK> Bruce,

RK> There is an updated dailystrips available at
RK> http://dailystrips.sourceforge.net/

How would I automate this on Win32?
I have been trying the AT tool, but after about 50 variations...

-- 
Tim@...
MUA = TB! v1.60k (www.RitLabs.com/The_Bat)
Windows 2000 5.0.2195 (Service Pack 2)
I'm planning to be spontaneous tomorrow.

> Is it just me? I upgraded from 2.64 to 2.68 and it doesnt seem to
> be picking
> up the voice commands? Ms4 when I say "what can I say " it only shows the
> windows commands not the Mh commands.

I don't remember doing this, but it looks like I changed the default mh.ini
voice_cmd parm from ms to blank back in release 2.65.

Bruce

> for a longer time I'm thinking about on screen gui for tv-out
> oriented Misterhouse
> computers, so MH could be run on thin clients all over house with
> nice on screen
> guis, that could be browsed over few keystrokes on IR remote
> (possibly over TV card
> on computer) or keyboard or any remote control device or network.
>
> ...
>
> So questions and thoughts about implementation that arise :
> - Could something similar be done in TK (that would mean same GUI
> under different
> OSes),
> - Could we add some formatting directives to  LCD menu system to cancel
> preformatting for LCD and maybe formatting menu entries into rows ?...)
> - Could we use Walking menus for this (through tk interface ) ?
>
> I'd like to hear some opinions or info about any effort of doing
> something similar.

Do you think we could do what you want with a web interface?   In 2.68, I
re-wrote the web menu interface.  If you have not tried it out yet, you can
browse ours here:

 http://misterhouse.net:8080/bin/menu.pl

It is only simple buttons, but it does allow for pretty quick navigation up
and down menus.   Pretty easy to update and very quick debuging, as the
web/bin code is evaluated on every use.   We could add icons to the buttons,
maybe allowing for a icon directive in the menu  files.   Right now I simply
distinguish 2 types of buttons.   Those with further menus under them, and
those that will execute an action (those get a simple frame drawn around
them).

Bruce

this threw me a bit at first too... when MH interpets info from your CM11a (or similar receiver), MH will see it in this format:

XM1MK
X - every command will start with this
M1 - the house code and unit
MK - the house code and the command

K here might be any of the following:
J - ON
K - OFF
L - brighten
M - dim

if you really want to dig around, take a look at mh/lib/X10_Items.pm

scott

On Fri, 31 May 2002 07:36:31 -0500, Mike Kaylor wrote:

>This code is easier for me to read but X in front of M1 means X10 and MJ
>at the end, is that some made up variable or how is that determined?
>Would the next switch in line be XM2MJ and K too or would it be XM2ML
>and M?  

This code is easier for me to read but X in front of M1 means X10 and MJ
at the end, is that some made up variable or how is that determined?
Would the next switch in line be XM2MJ and K too or would it be XM2ML
and M?  

Thanks,
Mike

-----Original Message-----
From: misterhouse-users-admin@...
[mailto:misterhouse-users-admin@...] On Behalf Of
scott reston
Sent: Friday, May 31, 2002 7:15 AM
To: misterhouse-users@...
Subject: re: [misterhouse-users] Newbie: Need help with buttons.

mike - there are many ways to skin this cat... not necessarily better,
just different. this might be more appropriate since you won't actually
have a light at m1:

$m1_button_on = new Serial_Item 'XM1MJ'; # M1 = housecode M, unit 1 - MJ
= ON for housecode M $m1_button_off = new Serial_Item 'XM1MK';

if (state_now $m1_button_on) {
	$m5_light->set(ON); # "set $m5_light ON" will also work...
	$m6_light->set(ON);
	$m7_light->set(OFF);
}
if  (state_now $m1_button_off) {
	$m5_light->set(OFF);
	$m6_light->set(OFF);
	$m7_light->set(ON);
}

On Thu, 30 May 2002 22:51:47 -0700, Alan Womack wrote:

>code:
>  if ($m1_light->state_now() eq ON) {
>     $m5_light->set(ON);
>     $m6_light->set(ON);
>     $m7_light->set(OFF);
>   } elsif ($m1_light->state_now() eq OFF) {
>     $m5_light->set(OFF);
>     $m6_light->set(OFF);
>     $m7_light->set(ON);
>   }

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mike - there are many ways to skin this cat... not necessarily better, just different. this might be more appropriate since you won't actually have a light at m1:

$m1_button_on = new Serial_Item 'XM1MJ'; # M1 = housecode M, unit 1 - MJ = ON for housecode M
$m1_button_off = new Serial_Item 'XM1MK';

if (state_now $m1_button_on) {
	$m5_light->set(ON); # "set $m5_light ON" will also work...
	$m6_light->set(ON);
	$m7_light->set(OFF);
}
if  (state_now $m1_button_off) {
	$m5_light->set(OFF);
	$m6_light->set(OFF);
	$m7_light->set(ON);
}

On Thu, 30 May 2002 22:51:47 -0700, Alan Womack wrote:

>code:
>  if ($m1_light->state_now() eq ON) {
>     $m5_light->set(ON);
>     $m6_light->set(ON);
>     $m7_light->set(OFF);
>   } elsif ($m1_light->state_now() eq OFF) {
>     $m5_light->set(OFF);
>     $m6_light->set(OFF);
>     $m7_light->set(ON);
>   }

Yes I have a RR501 set to M9.  Thanks for the help.  I was totally
confused on how it saw the button push in the code.

Mike

-----Original Message-----
From: Alan Womack [mailto:arwbackup@...] 
Sent: Friday, May 31, 2002 12:52 AM
To: Mike Kaylor; misterhouse-users@...
Subject: re: [misterhouse-users] Newbie: Need help with buttons.

First, do you have a RF receiver connected to Misterhouse?

Second if not part A, are you using a TM751 or RR501 tuned to your
housecode M and it sends the M1 OFF down the powerline to the CM11a that
Misterhouse then gets the code from?

code:
  if ($m1_light->state_now() eq ON) {
     $m5_light->set(ON);
     $m6_light->set(ON);
     $m7_light->set(OFF);
   } elsif ($m1_light->state_now() eq OFF) {
     $m5_light->set(OFF);
     $m6_light->set(OFF);
     $m7_light->set(ON);
   }

My syntax is likely off a bit, but gives you the idea.

Substitute the m1_light, m5-light, etc with the names of your modules
from your items.mht file.

 >>  I have a Slimline Switch (SS13A) that I want to use to control some
>>  scenes in a room.  It has 3 on and off buttons plus the dimmer
button.  >>  What I would like to do is if I press the top "ON" button,
the slimline  >>  sends "M1 ON" code out  this is turn turns on devices
M5 and M6 and  >>  turns off M7,  if I touch the top "OFF" button it
sends "M1 OFF" and  >>  then that does another scene lets say device M5
and M6 off and M7 on.  >>  This way I should be able to get 6 scenes out
of the 3 on/off buttons.

 >>  I think this can be done but I've searched the world over for some
code  >>  examples and I have just confused myself beyond belief.  In
the docs and  >>  examples,  I never really saw a simple example of how
to turn on a light  >>  with a SS13A or a PalmPad type controller.
Either that or it blew me  >>  away being a novice.  I am running MH on
a Linux box.

 >>  Thanks for the help,

 >>  Michael D. Kaylor
 >>  mike@...

Epson Inkjet Printer FAQ: http://welcome.to/epson-inkjet

Hello,

for a longer time I'm thinking about on screen gui for tv-out oriented Misterhouse
computers, so MH could be run on thin clients all over house with nice on screen
guis, that could be browsed over few keystrokes on IR remote (possibly over TV card
on computer) or keyboard or any remote control device or network.

Currently I'm using TK window text window made out of LCD menus for Misterhouse. But
the lack of this is that this is not so graphically attractive, and texts get
different kind of preformatting (abbreviation with '>', choice covered with '#',
...).

Another thing I'm thinking about is Tk_photos file, where we can watch photos on
screen.

I've looked over and found some interesting programs (wins only, for Linux don't
know of something similar), that could be maybe incorporated into MH or could be
taken as an example:
http://www.squareeight.com/software/development/musicbox.shtml
http://www.media-box.org

There is also a guy who rewrote musicbox sources in mediabox style:
http://home.swbell.net/yeargan/MusicBox-MB-003.zip

So questions and thoughts about implementation that arise :
- Could something similar be done in TK (that would mean same GUI under different
OSes),
- Could we add some formatting directives to  LCD menu system to cancel
preformatting for LCD and maybe formatting menu entries into rows ?...)
- Could we use Walking menus for this (through tk interface ) ?

I'd like to hear some opinions or info about any effort of doing something similar.

Thanks in advance,

regards,

Robert Rozman

I'm currently an editor for the UK's leading Home Automation website, 
 http://www.automatedhome.co.uk, I'm also the groups MrHouse advocate & I like to 
think I've helped increase the number of UK users (me & my big head :-)

I noticed while browsing the code examples that MrHouse can control Comfort, 
would the author of the emaple like to get in touch with me then I can 
perhaps write a short peice for the website on what MrHouse can control with 
Comfort?

Comfort is a very popular alarm system among UK HAers and I bet not many of 
them know MrHouse is capable of talking to it.

First, do you have a RF receiver connected to Misterhouse?

Second if not part A, are you using a TM751 or RR501 tuned to your housecode M =
and it sends the M1 OFF down the powerline to the CM11a that Misterhouse then =
gets the code from?

code:
  if ($m1_light->state_now() eq ON) {
     $m5_light->set(ON);
     $m6_light->set(ON);
     $m7_light->set(OFF);
   } elsif ($m1_light->state_now() eq OFF) {
     $m5_light->set(OFF);
     $m6_light->set(OFF);
     $m7_light->set(ON);
   }

My syntax is likely off a bit, but gives you the idea.

Substitute the m1_light, m5-light, etc with the names of your modules from your =
items.mht file.

 >>  I have a Slimline Switch (SS13A) that I want to use to control some
 >>  scenes in a room.  It has 3 on and off buttons plus the dimmer button.
 >>  What I would like to do is if I press the top "ON" button, the slimline
 >>  sends "M1 ON" code out  this is turn turns on devices M5 and M6 and
 >>  turns off M7,  if I touch the top "OFF" button it sends "M1 OFF" and
 >>  then that does another scene lets say device M5 and M6 off and M7 on.
 >>  This way I should be able to get 6 scenes out of the 3 on/off buttons.

 >>  I think this can be done but I've searched the world over for some code
 >>  examples and I have just confused myself beyond belief.  In the docs and
 >>  examples,  I never really saw a simple example of how to turn on a light
 >>  with a SS13A or a PalmPad type controller.  Either that or it blew me
 >>  away being a novice.  I am running MH on a Linux box.

 >>  Thanks for the help,

 >>  Michael D. Kaylor
 >>  mike@...

Epson Inkjet Printer FAQ: http://welcome.to/epson-inkjet

I'm working on a PVR that uses get_tv_info to figure out when to record my
favorite shows.  I discovered it was reporting incorrect times for shows
that start or end around midnight.  I modified this subroutine:

sub hour24_to_ampm {
    my ($hour, $min) = split(':', @_[0]);
    if ($hour >= 24) {
        $hour = 12 if ($hour == 24 );
        $hour -= 24 if ($hour > 24 );
        return ($hour) . ":$min AM";
    }
    if ($hour >= 12) {
        $hour -= 12 if ($hour > 12 );
        return ($hour) . ":$min PM";
    }
    else {
        $hour = 12 if ($hour == 0 );
        return "$hour:$min AM";
    }
}

For reference, the start and end hours in the DBM file range from 0-27.

David 

Is it just me? I upgraded from 2.64 to 2.68 and it doesnt seem to be picking 
up the voice commands? Ms4 when I say "what can I say " it only shows the 
windows commands not the Mh commands. 
Any thoughts?

Please help a confused Newbie!

I have a Slimline Switch (SS13A) that I want to use to control some
scenes in a room.  It has 3 on and off buttons plus the dimmer button.
What I would like to do is if I press the top "ON" button, the slimline
sends "M1 ON" code out  this is turn turns on devices M5 and M6 and
turns off M7,  if I touch the top "OFF" button it sends "M1 OFF" and
then that does another scene lets say device M5 and M6 off and M7 on.
This way I should be able to get 6 scenes out of the 3 on/off buttons.

I think this can be done but I've searched the world over for some code
examples and I have just confused myself beyond belief.  In the docs and
examples,  I never really saw a simple example of how to turn on a light
with a SS13A or a PalmPad type controller.  Either that or it blew me
away being a novice.  I am running MH on a Linux box.

Thanks for the help,

Michael D. Kaylor
mike@...

I just noticed that the on-the-fly button images was not being displayed on
some browsers.   It works ok with IE and Netscape 4.02 and 6.0 I have here
at home, but not with Netscape 4.77 I have at work.

The fix is to add a mime-header in the 2 returns in mh/web/bin/button.pl:

 return &mime_header($image_file) . file_read $image_file if -e $image_file;

 return &mime_header($image_file) . $jpeg;

Bruce

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