From: SF/projects/mingw n. l. <min...@li...> - 2011-05-19 21:05:32
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Bugs item #3304794, was opened at 2011-05-19 17:05 Message generated for change (Tracker Item Submitted) made by earnie You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=102435&aid=3304794&group_id=2435 Please note that this message will contain a full copy of the comment thread, including the initial issue submission, for this request, not just the latest update. Category: MSYS Group: None Status: Open Resolution: None Priority: 5 Private: No Submitted By: Earnie Boyd (earnie) Assigned to: Cesar Strauss (cstrauss) Summary: msys.bat missing in default install Initial Comment: To demonstrate this bug create an empty directory, I'll call it c:\foo. Extract the mingw-get-0.2-mingw32-alpha-4-bin.zip file into c:\foo. Change directory to c:\foo\bin and execute mingw-get update followed by mingw-get install msys-bash. Change directory to c:\foo\msys\1.0 and you will see that there is no msys.bat file. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=102435&aid=3304794&group_id=2435 |
From: SF/projects/mingw n. l. <min...@li...> - 2011-05-20 10:23:07
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Bugs item #3304794, was opened at 2011-05-19 21:05 Message generated for change (Comment added) made by keithmarshall You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=102435&aid=3304794&group_id=2435 Please note that this message will contain a full copy of the comment thread, including the initial issue submission, for this request, not just the latest update. Category: MSYS Group: None Status: Open Resolution: None Priority: 5 Private: No Submitted By: Earnie Boyd (earnie) Assigned to: Cesar Strauss (cstrauss) Summary: msys.bat missing in default install Initial Comment: To demonstrate this bug create an empty directory, I'll call it c:\foo. Extract the mingw-get-0.2-mingw32-alpha-4-bin.zip file into c:\foo. Change directory to c:\foo\bin and execute mingw-get update followed by mingw-get install msys-bash. Change directory to c:\foo\msys\1.0 and you will see that there is no msys.bat file. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >Comment By: Keith Marshall (keithmarshall) Date: 2011-05-20 10:23 Message: On the basis of current dependency rules, this is correct. My current installation manifest has msys.bat recorded as installed by msys-core-ext, which is NOT a prerequisite for free-standing msys-bash; however, it IS a prerequisite for msys-base. Did you, perhaps, intend to mingw-get install msys-base rather than mingw-get install msys-bash ? IMO, the current configuration is correct; msys.bat is not required to run an isolated free-standing msys-bash. Thus, this is not a bug; it is by design. If you want a complete basic MSYS installation, msys-base and NOT msys-bash is the package to install. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=102435&aid=3304794&group_id=2435 |
From: SF/projects/mingw n. l. <min...@li...> - 2011-05-20 12:48:37
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Bugs item #3304794, was opened at 2011-05-19 17:05 Message generated for change (Comment added) made by earnie You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=102435&aid=3304794&group_id=2435 Please note that this message will contain a full copy of the comment thread, including the initial issue submission, for this request, not just the latest update. Category: MSYS Group: None Status: Open Resolution: None Priority: 5 Private: No Submitted By: Earnie Boyd (earnie) Assigned to: Cesar Strauss (cstrauss) Summary: msys.bat missing in default install Initial Comment: To demonstrate this bug create an empty directory, I'll call it c:\foo. Extract the mingw-get-0.2-mingw32-alpha-4-bin.zip file into c:\foo. Change directory to c:\foo\bin and execute mingw-get update followed by mingw-get install msys-bash. Change directory to c:\foo\msys\1.0 and you will see that there is no msys.bat file. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >Comment By: Earnie Boyd (earnie) Date: 2011-05-20 08:48 Message: I disagree and think msys-base should be a dependency to all other msys-* packages. I intentionally chose msys-bash because I assumed it would give me a minimal system after trying ``mingw-get install msys'' didn't work; which is a different issue. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Comment By: Keith Marshall (keithmarshall) Date: 2011-05-20 06:23 Message: On the basis of current dependency rules, this is correct. My current installation manifest has msys.bat recorded as installed by msys-core-ext, which is NOT a prerequisite for free-standing msys-bash; however, it IS a prerequisite for msys-base. Did you, perhaps, intend to mingw-get install msys-base rather than mingw-get install msys-bash ? IMO, the current configuration is correct; msys.bat is not required to run an isolated free-standing msys-bash. Thus, this is not a bug; it is by design. If you want a complete basic MSYS installation, msys-base and NOT msys-bash is the package to install. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=102435&aid=3304794&group_id=2435 |
From: SF/projects/mingw n. l. <min...@li...> - 2011-05-20 16:22:56
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Bugs item #3304794, was opened at 2011-05-19 21:05 Message generated for change (Comment added) made by keithmarshall You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=102435&aid=3304794&group_id=2435 Please note that this message will contain a full copy of the comment thread, including the initial issue submission, for this request, not just the latest update. Category: MSYS Group: None Status: Open Resolution: None Priority: 5 Private: No Submitted By: Earnie Boyd (earnie) Assigned to: Cesar Strauss (cstrauss) Summary: msys.bat missing in default install Initial Comment: To demonstrate this bug create an empty directory, I'll call it c:\foo. Extract the mingw-get-0.2-mingw32-alpha-4-bin.zip file into c:\foo. Change directory to c:\foo\bin and execute mingw-get update followed by mingw-get install msys-bash. Change directory to c:\foo\msys\1.0 and you will see that there is no msys.bat file. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >Comment By: Keith Marshall (keithmarshall) Date: 2011-05-20 16:22 Message: So, we disagree. That's fine; we won't always agree on everything :-) However, msys-base is a meta-package, designated to reproduce the features provided by the old bundled .exe MSYS installers. As a meta-package, NOTHING else should depend on it. EVER. In fact, if you want an absolute minimal installation, msys-tiny is the package to go for. This is also a meta-package, so again, NOTHING should depend on it either. The common dependency is msys-core, which itself is subdivided into msys-core-bin, (on which ALL other MSYS packages DO correctly depend), and msys-core-ext, which provides some extra functionality; (msys-base requires it; msys-tiny does not). Now, your issue really boils down to "should msys.bat be included in a minimal installation"? (i.e. should msys-tiny require it). IMO, it should not, because it isn't really essential; (I haven't used it for years, preferring to let Console2 start the shell directly by invoking 'sh.exe --login -i' via its configuration file). But in reality, this is a packaging issue. If you can convince Cesar and Chuck that msys.bat should be moved from msys-core-ext to msys-core-bin, then although I don't agree with you, I'll go along with it. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Comment By: Earnie Boyd (earnie) Date: 2011-05-20 12:48 Message: I disagree and think msys-base should be a dependency to all other msys-* packages. I intentionally chose msys-bash because I assumed it would give me a minimal system after trying ``mingw-get install msys'' didn't work; which is a different issue. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Comment By: Keith Marshall (keithmarshall) Date: 2011-05-20 10:23 Message: On the basis of current dependency rules, this is correct. My current installation manifest has msys.bat recorded as installed by msys-core-ext, which is NOT a prerequisite for free-standing msys-bash; however, it IS a prerequisite for msys-base. Did you, perhaps, intend to mingw-get install msys-base rather than mingw-get install msys-bash ? IMO, the current configuration is correct; msys.bat is not required to run an isolated free-standing msys-bash. Thus, this is not a bug; it is by design. If you want a complete basic MSYS installation, msys-base and NOT msys-bash is the package to install. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=102435&aid=3304794&group_id=2435 |
From: SF/projects/mingw n. l. <min...@li...> - 2011-10-12 19:53:51
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Bugs item #3304794, was opened at 2011-05-19 18:05 Message generated for change (Comment added) made by cstrauss You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=102435&aid=3304794&group_id=2435 Please note that this message will contain a full copy of the comment thread, including the initial issue submission, for this request, not just the latest update. Category: MSYS Group: None Status: Open Resolution: None Priority: 5 Private: No Submitted By: Earnie Boyd (earnie) Assigned to: Cesar Strauss (cstrauss) Summary: msys.bat missing in default install Initial Comment: To demonstrate this bug create an empty directory, I'll call it c:\foo. Extract the mingw-get-0.2-mingw32-alpha-4-bin.zip file into c:\foo. Change directory to c:\foo\bin and execute mingw-get update followed by mingw-get install msys-bash. Change directory to c:\foo\msys\1.0 and you will see that there is no msys.bat file. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >Comment By: Cesar Strauss (cstrauss) Date: 2011-10-12 16:53 Message: We always discourage running MSYS command-line tools directly from cmd.exe. In that sense, we can think of msys.bat being a requirement of every command-line tool in MSYS. What do you think? Cesar ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Comment By: Keith Marshall (keithmarshall) Date: 2011-05-20 13:22 Message: So, we disagree. That's fine; we won't always agree on everything :-) However, msys-base is a meta-package, designated to reproduce the features provided by the old bundled .exe MSYS installers. As a meta-package, NOTHING else should depend on it. EVER. In fact, if you want an absolute minimal installation, msys-tiny is the package to go for. This is also a meta-package, so again, NOTHING should depend on it either. The common dependency is msys-core, which itself is subdivided into msys-core-bin, (on which ALL other MSYS packages DO correctly depend), and msys-core-ext, which provides some extra functionality; (msys-base requires it; msys-tiny does not). Now, your issue really boils down to "should msys.bat be included in a minimal installation"? (i.e. should msys-tiny require it). IMO, it should not, because it isn't really essential; (I haven't used it for years, preferring to let Console2 start the shell directly by invoking 'sh.exe --login -i' via its configuration file). But in reality, this is a packaging issue. If you can convince Cesar and Chuck that msys.bat should be moved from msys-core-ext to msys-core-bin, then although I don't agree with you, I'll go along with it. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Comment By: Earnie Boyd (earnie) Date: 2011-05-20 09:48 Message: I disagree and think msys-base should be a dependency to all other msys-* packages. I intentionally chose msys-bash because I assumed it would give me a minimal system after trying ``mingw-get install msys'' didn't work; which is a different issue. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Comment By: Keith Marshall (keithmarshall) Date: 2011-05-20 07:23 Message: On the basis of current dependency rules, this is correct. My current installation manifest has msys.bat recorded as installed by msys-core-ext, which is NOT a prerequisite for free-standing msys-bash; however, it IS a prerequisite for msys-base. Did you, perhaps, intend to mingw-get install msys-base rather than mingw-get install msys-bash ? IMO, the current configuration is correct; msys.bat is not required to run an isolated free-standing msys-bash. Thus, this is not a bug; it is by design. If you want a complete basic MSYS installation, msys-base and NOT msys-bash is the package to install. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=102435&aid=3304794&group_id=2435 |
From: SF/projects/mingw n. l. <min...@li...> - 2011-10-13 13:04:32
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Bugs item #3304794, was opened at 2011-05-19 17:05 Message generated for change (Comment added) made by earnie You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=102435&aid=3304794&group_id=2435 Please note that this message will contain a full copy of the comment thread, including the initial issue submission, for this request, not just the latest update. Category: MSYS Group: None Status: Open Resolution: None Priority: 5 Private: No Submitted By: Earnie Boyd (earnie) Assigned to: Cesar Strauss (cstrauss) Summary: msys.bat missing in default install Initial Comment: To demonstrate this bug create an empty directory, I'll call it c:\foo. Extract the mingw-get-0.2-mingw32-alpha-4-bin.zip file into c:\foo. Change directory to c:\foo\bin and execute mingw-get update followed by mingw-get install msys-bash. Change directory to c:\foo\msys\1.0 and you will see that there is no msys.bat file. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >Comment By: Earnie Boyd (earnie) Date: 2011-10-13 09:04 Message: msys.bat's purpose is to start sh.exe so it is more a dependency of bash. It certainly isn't a dependency of every command-line tool in MSYS. Bash on the other hand, while it isn't directly, could be considered a dependency of every command-line tool in MSYS. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Comment By: Cesar Strauss (cstrauss) Date: 2011-10-12 15:53 Message: We always discourage running MSYS command-line tools directly from cmd.exe. In that sense, we can think of msys.bat being a requirement of every command-line tool in MSYS. What do you think? Cesar ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Comment By: Keith Marshall (keithmarshall) Date: 2011-05-20 12:22 Message: So, we disagree. That's fine; we won't always agree on everything :-) However, msys-base is a meta-package, designated to reproduce the features provided by the old bundled .exe MSYS installers. As a meta-package, NOTHING else should depend on it. EVER. In fact, if you want an absolute minimal installation, msys-tiny is the package to go for. This is also a meta-package, so again, NOTHING should depend on it either. The common dependency is msys-core, which itself is subdivided into msys-core-bin, (on which ALL other MSYS packages DO correctly depend), and msys-core-ext, which provides some extra functionality; (msys-base requires it; msys-tiny does not). Now, your issue really boils down to "should msys.bat be included in a minimal installation"? (i.e. should msys-tiny require it). IMO, it should not, because it isn't really essential; (I haven't used it for years, preferring to let Console2 start the shell directly by invoking 'sh.exe --login -i' via its configuration file). But in reality, this is a packaging issue. If you can convince Cesar and Chuck that msys.bat should be moved from msys-core-ext to msys-core-bin, then although I don't agree with you, I'll go along with it. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Comment By: Earnie Boyd (earnie) Date: 2011-05-20 08:48 Message: I disagree and think msys-base should be a dependency to all other msys-* packages. I intentionally chose msys-bash because I assumed it would give me a minimal system after trying ``mingw-get install msys'' didn't work; which is a different issue. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Comment By: Keith Marshall (keithmarshall) Date: 2011-05-20 06:23 Message: On the basis of current dependency rules, this is correct. My current installation manifest has msys.bat recorded as installed by msys-core-ext, which is NOT a prerequisite for free-standing msys-bash; however, it IS a prerequisite for msys-base. Did you, perhaps, intend to mingw-get install msys-base rather than mingw-get install msys-bash ? IMO, the current configuration is correct; msys.bat is not required to run an isolated free-standing msys-bash. Thus, this is not a bug; it is by design. If you want a complete basic MSYS installation, msys-base and NOT msys-bash is the package to install. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=102435&aid=3304794&group_id=2435 |