Re: [Mingw-users] Moving from Visual C++

[Juan C. A. B. <jc...@ro...>]

At 09:15 PM 9/16/2000 -0400, Don Pellegrino wrote:

>No.  As you read the examples you can tell it is a dated book.  In the
>case of make that is a good thing however, the book lets you know the
>standard features so you know what to be weary of using in any vendor's
>implementation.

    :) I don't care if it's fully featured (the current version of GNU 
make, is very nice in this respect), as long as it works in most platforms, 
and I can port it to a new one if it's absolutely necessary to develop in 
it. In fact, I prefer it that way.

> > I have to build a system that's "user friendly" enough
> > for him to approve the change.
>
>Yea, I see your problem.  That's a tough one.

    :) Yes it is.

> From your backgrounder you seem to realize that
>more GUI in programming equates to more complications, not less, due to
>the extra layer of abstraction.

    Well, not really. The problems with using Visual Studio are two:

1- You can't easily configure your builds for all your needs. If I had all 
the "Configurations" I wanted, I'd have 50. No way to do that from inside 
the IDE without going crazy. Especially when you want to be able to add 
projects, files, etc... very, very dynamically.

2- The IDE becomes very slow and/or buggy in doing lots of tasks that would 
be immediate using command-line driven tools.

>That can be a hard thing to explain to GUI guys.

    Actually, the harder thing is to tell them that they have to go and 
edit this or that text file to accomplish this or that task. I'd be able to 
cope with it. I can't push it onto him.

    In fact, that's the  classical UNIX way of developing, and I just don't 
buy it myself anymore. In the end, I'll have to do some GUI programming of 
my own to pull this off. Things like selecting what kind of build you're 
going to make, adding files to a project, etc...

>If you do come up with some great presentation on the
>subject I would love to hear about it.

    I'll even try to remember you when we're converted over, see how you 
like my solution.


    Salutaciones,
                               JCAB

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