I don't see how your comment is not a disagreement with Keith's, since we were talking about using a native Windows program, Python, from within MSYS shell.
You sounded like a MSYS developer knowing what you were saying, but so it did Keith. What should I believe? After all, is MSYS designed as a minimalist general-purpose system, not free of issues with native (non-MSYS) programs, or was it "specially and carefully crafted" to write MinGW programs?
> From: Renato Silva <email@example.com>
> Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2012 19:29:11 -0200
>I stand by what I said, but your interpretation of what I said is too
> 2012/10/23 Keith Marshall <firstname.lastname@example.org>
> > On 23/10/12 21:06, Renato Silva wrote:
> > > ... as MSYS is not designed itself as a general purpose command line,
> > > but as support for the MinGW compilers.
> > I do wish users would stop broadcasting this blatant propaganda. MSYS
> > shell is GNU bash; as such, it is every bit as suitable for any general
> > purpose use on Windows, for which users may choose to adopt it, as it is
> > on Linux, BSD or other Unix, or any other GNU hosting system.
> I assumed that after Eli Zaretskii's [message] in the TZ thread
> [message] *"If you want MSYS and native Windows programs live in
> peace, don't mix them in the same window and environment. The only> carefully crafted to allow this very kind of jobs."*
> exception to this rule is the compiler and Binutils needed to create
> MinGW programs -- and that's because MSYS was specially and
This talks about mixing MSYS and native Windows programs. When the
MSYS shell is used either in isolation or to invoke MSYS programs, I
don't expect any special problems (although I myself don't use MSYS
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